We could easily have two more teams from compelling outfits. This isn't 2010, these groups are from worldwide organisations with notable motorsporting credentials. Any posturing from the teams is only going to cause fan backlash, which is NOT something that FOM wants after embracing the fandom.
Alpha Tauri, Williams and Haas arent worldwide organizations, so yes, this would be 2010 all over again, those teams would be slower, struggle to build, bring paydrivers and eventually bankrupt.
We could easily see 3 works manufacturers join the grid in the next 5 years. Ford with RedBull, Porsche with Williams, Andretti with GM and Honda being Honda. Not to mention Aston Martin have the 5 year goal to start building their own engines and do away with their Mercedes contract. Exciting times ahead of the sport!
Mercedes is one of Aston Martin's (road car company) biggest share holders (20%, according to Reuters). Mercedes AMG engines power the road cars. AMR GP is an independent company of Aston Martin (AFAIK fully owned by Lawrence Stroll personally), so they can do whatever they want but Mercedes may want to have a word whether AMR GP would be allowed to continue to use the Aston Martin branding.
Indeed. That's what i like to hear. But, GM is very non committal atm. So, i think they can easily just stick to the branding deal. I am not sure they are willing to give Andretti engine support. I think they are dipping a toe to perhaps go in with their own works team.
@@KAMiKAZOW currently Strolls consortium holds an 18.3% share in Aston Martin Lagonda, with a Saudi Arabian Fund holding 16.7%. Mercedes only have a 9.7% investment in the company.
@@tyler_bt3326 Mercedes has a shares for car parts deal with Aston Martin and Reuters wrote last July that Mercedes' will be 20% by 2023 and it's 2023 now. They can't be that wrong in a time frame of a few months...
After just seeing Porsche’s video they might be teaming up with Williams. Also Gulf becoming a sponsor for Williams we might see Porsche Williams in a Gulf livery!
@@LordandGodofRU-vid wish we could see 12 candidates for new F1 2026 Projects including Panthera Team Asia. If Panthera F1 Team Asia did join F1 in 2026. I belive their driver lineups could be Mei Yoneme and Shiki Wakana.
@@purwantiallan5089 I'm for as many cars as possible if they are good quality and would stick around, but I think once you go over 24 you would have other issues that might be too much, like asking track owners to build bigger pit buildings to accommodate them.
This is the trouble Andretti Cadillac (and Panthera) have. Realistically you can only get 2, maybe 3 more teams in, and F1 would much rather those be full works from Ford, Porsche, Hyundai or Honda (although I’d be inclined to refuse Honda for being too fickle). F1 would be wise to get all the offers on the table first and then decide. But I would say that refusing Andretti now would be a bad look, even if a works Ford team would be worth more
Not exactly as Ford is probably not interested on a full works team, and GM wants in. That gives Andretti a lot of credibility and would be insane to not let them join at this point. But for sure, we need two more teams on F1. I see Porsche buying Williams, and Ford going full circle with Red Bull.
You are underestimating GM. They will bring their own engine probably from 2028. The other teams you mentioned are fiddling their thumbs. Porsche wants full control with minimum effort. Fck them.
Works teams are the problem of F1. These manufacturers should just supply engines and have normal teams like back in the day. If a manufacturer wants to compete they can’t sell their engines and problem solved. This whole two tier F1 system will have me watch less races this year.
@@sammerry7706 i dont think they will be the best but will def be up there. You really cant compare a system for range vs performance. And they have done very well competing with porsche and audi in wec when they all used to race.
I second this. 100% Their racing division, Gazoo, is honestly one of the best works-outfits on the planet right now. If Toyota took another crack at F1 today, it would be a VERY different Toyota to the one that contested F1 two decades ago. That's a lot of learning time. Plus, people with F1 experience like Kamui Kobayashi drives for their WEC team AND is their team manager at the same time (slightly embarrassing then if the boss crashes the car. 😅) But this operation is a very serious one in world motorsport.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos While I love TGR as well, they will have their hands full in the WEC the coming seasons. I'm sure they are willing to prove that their Dominance the last years was not due to Lack of competition but due to them being a good team. (And when did Kobayashi crash the car? I believe the Monza incident was his misjudgement, but other then that and the Sebring crash by Lopez the #7 got incident free through the season if I remember correctly.)
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos true, but I think their past experience was so mediocre it might had scared them away for a long time. Especially considering the insane costs of F1.
Can't speak to Dakar, but seems generous to recognize their WRC/WEC record given the weak competition in one and non-existent competition in the other after Audi/Porsche finished slapping them around.
If Porsche can get into F1, that would be historic. With Audi also on the grid, the thought of seeing that old Le Mans rivalry being brought into F1 is... Mouth-watering. It would also be incredible to see Porsche take on Ferrari again, but this time in a sport that Ferrari has defined for the better part of a century.
@@thecheese4960 I meant as a works manufacturer, like how they have been in WEC/Le Mans for decades. They haven't tried that since the 60s. In light of recent news, that's not happening anymore. But fundamentally, Porsche don't need F1, it's a luxury for them. Not like endurance racing where it's in their DNA. It's the other way around for a manufacturer like Ferrari.
The prospect of the Formula 1 grid getting bigger in the near future might seem exciting but F1 needs teams that will stay the course & not quit when the going gets tough.
I see Red Bull, the parent Co., striking a deal with HONDA to have them run AlphaTauri with their own engine as they put all focus on RBR & RBPT but keeping the existing branding as is for 2026.
Red Bull get to keep the marketing advantage of 2 teams while closing the loophole in their argument for new team status in 2026 while HONDA bring in their own 2026 engine to a team that already uses and is adapted to their engineering and the Honda personnel currently at RB teams are all shuffled to AlphaTauri.
HONDA will be getting in for a significant discount compared to buying the team wholesale while Red BULL gets paid twice since they can now bring in another automotive brand(FORD) to brand the main Car. WIN WIN situation
The only legitimate reason to deny Andretti/Cadillac a team is if F1 already has commitments from two of these other bigger brands. I really hope all this interest leads to a full grid of 12 teams again.
Not entirely true; Michael Andretti is infamous in the F1 paddock for being conspiratorial, lazy and confrontational. In his brief stint driving for Mclaren he was as much fired for refusing to put in enough effort to his job and concocting theories the team was deliberately sabotaging him as he was chronically underperforming. (Counting for the races he missed Senna outscored him 6 points to every 1 and over the season total it was 10 to 1 and Andretti crashed out of the first four races in succession.) I'd certainly hope he's grown up a bit since then but he's definitely not well liked by those that still remember that.
RBR/Ford (or Haas/Ford), Hyundai Works, Andretti Cadillac, Williams Porsche, Honda Works (buys AT), Toyota Works. Gives 12 teams with good racing pedigree, a solid level of competition between engine development, and enough seats to make racing and qualifying more exciting.
I personally would love to see Ford and Shelby team up once again to build a full in-house team. The two already have a close working relationship, and would be amazing to see a Ford/Shelby F1 car on the grid. It would be Ford VS Ferrari all over again which makes it all the more exciting to think about
Shelby's history is in touring car and GT racing, they've never had anything to do with F1. As for Ford if they were to get into F1 proper they'd need to spin up their own team and build their own engine from scratch, because the majority of their ventures into F1 were just branding exercises and rebadging engines.
Shelby American as the organization is today only modifies Ford vehicles... hardly an outfit capable of running an F1 team. Sure, Ford could brand their F1 team Shelby in some way, but they don't even brand NASCAR Mustangs as Shelby's
probably gonna be a long shot, but would love to see BMW back at it again. I think with the new tech and reduced cost I think its really worth their investment. Also would make a good fight between Mercedes and Audi too if BMW is around. (maybe even with Porsche keeping company)
Ford and Porsche coming in as an engine suppliers, and Andretti / Hyundai as full fledged teams would seem like a good injection of new blood in the sport. I'm not keen on Honda though - way too jittery. Pulling out back in 1992, back in as Mugen, Taking over at BAR, out in 2009, the McLaren calamities. They finally made it with Red Bull and I'm genuinely happy they are finally competitive, but they seem to have more money than sense.
We could very easily see two new teams in 2026 but they have to be the right picks, I would go with Andretti-cadillac, GM is the key behind that as they have an extortionate amount of money and actively keep buying brands to add to their collection, plus it would be a proper American team and as we know that market has untapped potential. The second option for me is completely wide open, would love a team with a lot of racing history.
Personally I would like to see more manufactures in F1 ie Ford, Honda, Porsche or even Hyundai but suspect most of these will be power unit suppliers rather than full teams. The grid can certainly accommodate 12 teams giving 24 cars on track so think more teams will get on the grid.
I haven't heard anyone talking about yamaha yet. They were behind the Lexus LFA, Toyota 2000GT, and many other legendary supercars, sportscars and performance cars. They already gave F1 a shot but did very badly for several reasons, they should definitely consider becoming an engine supplier.
Are they currently in a position to do something as committed and expensive as that though? It was one thing to have a crack at it during the tail end of Japan's economic bubble era, but I don't know what state they're in now or whether it'd be a good idea for them today.
Most of these "new teams" listed aren't at all interested in putting a new team on the grid. They are all testing the waters to see where they might be able buy in and put a sticker on an existing car or the Red Bull power unit. Honda coming back with a sticker on the RB, or Porsche could sticker the Honda, or Ford could put a sticker on the RB engine cover, Audi looking to repaint the Sauber, Hyundai and others nosing around to see if Alpha Tauri is up for sale. What a lot of fans want is more cars on the grid but I don't think we are going to get that sadly.
1 new franchises / 3 new manufacturer brands in the sport 1. Porsche partners with Williams 2. Honda fully partners with Red Bull, continue the engine collaboration and take over operation of Alpha Tauri as a Honda/Japanese works team 3. Cadillac Andretti
If Andretti don't get a spot, no one should. Its bonkers how much resistance there seems to be among the F1 paddock. One wonders whether its fear that is driving the resistance, they know Andretti are likely to be good from the jump and possibly competing for championships within a few years.
One possible step would be addition by subtraction. Gene Haas has made it clear by his actions that he doesn't have the resources to support a competitive team. Having him sell Haas to a better funded entrant would improve the field. As an American, I'd like him to sell it to an American-owned team (one that would actually hire an American driver or two), but as a long-time F1 fan (since the days of Jim Clark) I just want to see another strong team in the field.
@@therealquaid1694 Neither would Horner or Ferrari lol. Imagine if i told you there was 3 new employees coming to work tomorrow but you and everyone had to take a a paycut for the next few years for them. Yeah it doesn't sound nice that their gatekeeping new teams, but realistically you can see why. Not to mention a couple years ago when there was an influx of new teams on the grid, look how many folded since.
@@therealquaid1694 lol would harm everyone shares. But I guess your just a dumb shill considering you spamming the same comment everywhere. Guess your living your full potential in life 😉
Cadillac also has built up their "racing pedigree" over the last 20 years plus. Why is no one taking the whole Cadillac thing seriously??? Is it mainly because it's actually an American manufacturer, and Andretti?
I think Hyundai is an interesting and possible option. They are doing well in other series and their marketing definitely aligns with motorsport and technical development.
Toyota coming back would be legendary and not really out the picture. Ever since introduction of GR they've been becoming more enthusiast appealing brand so who knows what the future holds.
All I'm hearing here is that none of the car manufacturers (Ford, Porsche or Honda) are that keen on setting up a new works team. Hyundai is an interesting one but it's not likely a 2026 option. I know there's a lot of water to go under the bridge between now and 2026 when we might get a new team but to my eyes, Andretti Cadillac is looking like the best option by far! Especially if we want an 11th team and not one of the existing 10 bought out/renamed/name sponsored
Ford is seriously being considered over Honda for the RBPT rebranding, I smell a bidding war to ensue, and how Porsche is just naming all the other teams that don't have a major partner shows they didn't expect RB to reject them and are scrambling to get something going to just be in F1, imo they should have just committed to a full lmh project instead of the lmdh category, like if VW group just sees motorsports as a marketing tactic, put Audi in F1 and Porsche in WEC so you don't pour double the resources into competing against yourself
I don't understand why they are on the fence about Andretti. That team is no joke. They are pure racers with a history of success. They are a picture perfect applicant. They are: -proven to be successful and capable. Great history as well -substantial financial backing -from the USA (great for F1) -extremely eager to join and open to comprises to make a deal. I'm sure there are plenty more good reasons too
We’re all for more teams on the grid, the only concern I have is some of the tracks are a bit small for the speed F1 cars go, and start lapping other cars by like lap 8.. Which outside max lapping lewis last year, isn’t very entertaining
In my opinion, the Cadillac/Andretti team would give F1 to biggest bang for buck in growing the sport in the States. I cannot imagine that the existence of that team would not grow the pie for all involve.
Any expansion at this point must form behind Andretti. To accept another team and reject Andretti would cause many problems with the fan base. They need to be accepted sooner than later. 12 teams is about as many as I could see happening.
aside these options, would be interesting to see either Jaguar or Peugeot comeback, Tata & Stellantis might've liked the idea of boosting the reputation of their "racing-ready" brands (Stellantis have Alfa and Lancia though)
fuck it bring back the 90s with pre-qualifying for the laughs Ford, Porsche, Honda, Hyundai, Mazda, Toyota, Andretti, Lotus, Cadillac, Lamborghini, BMW YOU ALL GET A SLOT 😂😂
I think it’s great F1 is expanding and the Andretti name should be in F1. Saying that, F1 really needs to fix the two tier system ASAP. There should not be such a clear line between the top three teams and the rest. This is a really big problem. Alonso winning a race in an Aston Martin shouldn’t be a crazy thought. Or part of a 23 year plan.
the cost cap needs to be more strictly enforced imo, if a team has a better car it should be because they happened to make a better car with their engineers, not because rb merc and ferrari have 5x more money than everyone else
@@houseking9211 the cost cap isn’t the issue. To be honest it doesn’t solve anything as they all have loopholes and the bigger teams gonna spend. If they actually want to control costs they would regulate the equipment everyone uses. For example everyone uses the same spec wind tunnel and computer tech. Limit the amount of people that work on the car. For example the teams can’t have more than 200 people working on the car etc. I mean it’s crazy that a team like Haas has 200 people and Mercedes has 900 and they are competing in the same field. It’s like a soccer game where one team has 11 players and the other 60, now let’s guess who wins. Cost caps really only hurt salaries of regular people, and gives artificial hurt when a driver crashes too much.
It would be quite ironic if Ford became a works partner of Red Bull considering the teams origin as a works supported Stewart and then Ford owned Jaguar
That's a good one!! 😂😂😂😂 I am surprised someone hasn't done that yet! What I mean is, have an all white car, numbered 53, powered by a Volkswagen engine, and called "Herbie"!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Msg have been mentioned before as well, they are in formula E with Maserati, I'd be surprised if Stellantis aren't interested too I'd be all for Ford/rb, Porsche/Williams partnerships, Honda & andretti/cadillac works team and then a buy out of Haas by one of the groups mentioned above
F1 in 2014: Why won't anyone join our sport? :( F1 in 2021: We've initiated all the measures to make the sport more appealing for new teams! F1 in 2022: WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP TRYING TO JOIN?!?!?! STAY OUT!!!! 10 TEAMS ONLY!!!!!! F1 in 2026: So the 4 cars each from ferrari, red bull, and mercedes make up the grid this year, which is just how we like it!
Why does everyone immediately thing that Red Bull would partner with anyone but Honda? I could see a McLaren/Ford as a possibility though. Porsche is out, Mazepin is a joke, there’s no need for another billionaire team owner like Lo, and Hyundai would be a permanent backmarker from day one.
Teams!! Shouldn't that mean more cars not just engine supply? Just my humble opinion but the last team I would let on the grid would be Honda. They would be around for a few years then disappear again. Engine supply yes. Team no. A full works Ford team looks good but again how long would they stick around if things didn't go well. I think any new team wanting a place on the grid should be made to sign an agreement stating that they will stick around for a minimum of say 5 years or so
This is exactly why I wouldn’t want any works team outside Ferrari. It’s as if people forget 2008/2009 and think it can’t happen again. These brands in F1 are great, but I rather have privateer or energy drinks teams buy established car maker engines.
So I'm not saying that this is what is being said behind closed doors, I'm speculating: I can definitely see the teams arguing against adding more cars to the grid especially on the grounds that it will make racing around tracks like Monaco even more hellish. Hence why they've been more open to existing teams receiving additional investment and involvement rather than creating entirely new teams. Obviously, the money factor and plain old greed appear to be at the core of disputes. But I can also imagine them arguing along these more practical lines.
@@purwantiallan5089 Not necessarily at all. Especially with relatively equal cars. Even circuits like Monza become mobile chicanes and qualifying in recent years has been disgraceful. Watch the highlights from the WEC at Monza last year and you will see what I mean. Heck just look at F2 and F3 from years past. When we had 24 cars at Monaco it was pure chaos; 2010 - 2013 were demolition derbies at their best.
I would be happy to see more teams join and for current teams to have less say in the operation of the sport. Porsche, Andretti, Panthera are my standout names. Just as long as it isn’t Mazepin. Once your dad owns a team, you’ll never get rid of them until the day NM retires. We’ve got one of those already taking up a seat in the grid at Aston.
I would like to hear some thoughts on a split and another top league. I remember when strife in Indy car and CART created. And I am aware that this league (F1) has logistical differences from Indy car. But they both have drivers that want to drive, owners that want to race and fans the world over. New leagues are formed in every sport. It just takes one Star to give a new league credibility.
If Honda returns, we might even see their new joint-venture brand with Sony build the electrical systems. Having Sony as a partial PU manufacturer is a very weird idea, but not too farfetched
So the list is Andretti, two badge deals, someone who may already owns a team, an unpopular former principle is running a rally team, some guys who are in the inner circle of a mass-murder & are sanctioned by most F1 host countries, a solid global race team that already supplies 2 teams after formally pulling out of F1 and Pantera which has less credibility than any of them. 🤔 My choice would be Andretti because that’s a real bid and the rest of this list is a shambles as far as setting up a new team.
Ideal 2026 Grid: - Red Bull + Ford - Ferrari - Mercedes - Alpine - McLaren - Audi (Sauber) - Aston Martin - Haas - Porsche (AlphaTauri) - Williams - Andretti + Cadillac - Honda
The most likely scenario: Ford buys HAAS Porsche buys Williams Lamborghini buys AlphaTauri Cadillac, Honda, and Toyota/Hyundai/BMW come in as completely new teams filling the 11th, 12th, and 13th spots. There would be 13 teams, and 26 cars. 6 new seats for drivers coming from F2 or other motorsport series.
It's going to be interesting to see in 2026 whether there are any new works teams added, and whether there will be more than 20 cars on the grid. Those are different topics. The first is possible, the second I think is very unlikely due to objections from the current set of big fish (Mercedes, Ferrari, and Red Bull) and the six customer teams they control.
There's enough room on the grid for more than one new full team. Ford, Honda, and Hyundai could come into F1 as engine suppliers. The biggest opposition is convincing the existing teams to allow the new entries. The existing teams do not want to reduce their share of the F1 revenue.
Would love to see the following: 1. Ford to partner with RedBull. 2. Porsche come together with someone else like Hitec/Panthera Asia both of whom seem to have racing experience but no money, maybe using a common VW group engine shared with Audi. 3. Hyundai with a full works team.
Instead of a team there could be 2 wildcard spots for cars being entered by race to race basis just qualifying within the 107% margin. Like in the old days with pre qualifying.
22 is already too much, sponsors dont want be on the back on the grid, so if is too big number we always will have teams struggling for some seasons and then leaving F1 I would prefer substitions or partnerships to not relevant performer teams; Porsche > Alpha Tauri Ford + Wiliams Andretti > Haas
I think Liberty did a great job re-branding, making the sport stable, making the sport appealing for new investment. I do worry, with all these manufacturers, that one of them will be a Caterham or Spyker scenario, or more likely a Toyota.
So many teams want to join but i only see couple more at max being allowed in so competition will he insane but it could create those 1-2 entries very strong.
If I'm honest, I'd like to see 24 cars on the grid, and it'd be great if the chips fell as follows for the 12 potential teams: Andretti Cadillac gets its spot, Williams gets purchased by Porche, Honda partners with Red Bull and buys Alpha Tauri but keeps the sponsorship, Hyundai goes in with Renault as a new team and then looks at an engine later, Ford sponsors Haas, and then McClaren, Alpine, Mercedes, Red Bull, Audi Sauber, Ferrari, and Aston Martin all stay the same.
My 2 cents... a reform of WEC to something more sprint and a single class could be a good thing to receive investments from people that can't get into F1. A monster ground effect (spec on this part + max lift to drag aero regulation), good looking car could surf in this hype and try to grow into something more popular. Maybe some spec hybrid with 500hp to fit combustion engines around this 500hp as well could keep costs reasonable (BoP and homologations as part of this so people don't need to build new cars every year). Keep as endurance race only Le Mans 24.
F1 needs to move to a model where if a manufacturer backed entry wants in, they let them in. If the amount of teams is now a problem, the half of the acre that are plainly feeder teams for contenders can be shown the door to make room.
If there is more than one serious interest, just let them all join. There are more than enough drivers available and a grid with 24 or 26 cars would be great to watch, even though it might need some smaller changes to procedures, like qualifying.
I've been in favour of Andretti's entrance to F1 since I first heard of their intentions. Hyundai would be interesting if they could get a team up and running. I'm not sure they'd be as much of a threat to the big teams as Andretti would, for now anyway.
I think ideally we should get 2 more teams. Maybe 3 if they only let 24 of the 26 qualify (don't want to clutter up the circuit) for the race leaving 2 out each grand prix.. which would only be interesting if it's not the same 2 drivers every week. In my opinion my votes would be 𝗔𝗻𝗱𝗿𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶 (I am bias, but also think they would be a by far better team to represent the US in F1), 𝗛𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 (I think their history with the feeder series would be great to have on the F1 grid) and/or 𝗣𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗮 (would love to have an Asian team on the grid). Also; just as a preference and to make the grid more diverse - I don't like the thought of a "Red Bull 2" so I hope they sell AlphaTauri to someone like Porsche or Honda in the near future.
It shouldn't be competition for one slot on the grid. That idea is absolutely ridiculous when there are meant to be 26 cars and we currently only have 20. We used to have pre-qualifying because we had so many teams. Formula 1 can only be considered to be successful when that returns.
10 to 12 teams is good But more important that the number is the quality With the new F1, we could have teams all financially stable and able to spend as much as the top teams So we need to have new teams/teams rebrand only if they could have ambitions Sure, teams like Manor, Jordan, Minardi, were very fun to watch at the time, but F1 isnt that anymore You must not be here to survive, but to win
Can just deflate the balloon of F1 being “a huge commitment” for a car manufacturer. A new model sedan is about the same monetary commitment for Hyundai. The engine hardware is not huge (relative) but the power extraction via the dyno is. Brain power is the commodity needed.
Porsche should pay 33% of Audi’s engine development costs to brand it their own for a Williams partnership. Let Andretti/GM in along with a Honda or Hyundai works team. Ford with RB. That’s a 24 car lineup I’d be really excited to see!
I would like to see F1 add 3 more credible entries to the grid. It doesn't have to be just one. Lets get bigger grids, and by extension more drivers, in the field.
What I would love to have happen, is that these “mini” (HAAS, Williams, etc.) teams stop participating in F1, and combine with the “main” (Ferrari, Mercedes, etc.) teams to produce faster cars. That will open up LOTS of spots for new F1 teams
I think f1 should really just franchise their teams. Grid would get messy and hard to follow. Alpha tauri, scuderia, willaims and Haas should be swapped or partnered with more solid manufacturer options
Imagine if Ford goes in then you can't leave GM (as Cadillac) out. In a weird way it would recreate the peak of Nascar with Ford and Chevy fighting in out on track with proper non standard prototype cars and not a spec series like Nascar or Indy are today.
