The Pagan Necropolis Under Vatican City 

As they say, Cleopatra is closer to us in time than to the big pyramids, or even worse the Sphinx!

@@TheAlchaemistand the pyramids and sphinx are far older than 4000 years old… they’ve been the center point of the known earth for 10000 years and more…

Egypt had already fallen by the time the Romans came to power. You had the Greeks ruling prior to that, Assyrians etc.

You guys should read the book of Daniel… you might find it interesting, specially the second half of the book. It was written a couple centuries BC

Now think that the pyramids in Egypt are much much older than we are told

woah what are you doing here?

@@s33eragon watching some awesome content! 😎

heyyyy, this isn't ancient america!

I love your videos ❤

We went this summer. Agree it is amazing. The place where you can be next to the Red wall and look up though all the layers to the current oculus of the dome was mind blowing and humbling, like some human scale Grand Canyon.

I couldn't finagle a tour of the cemetery, but in the crypt there are vent holes below some of the sarcophagi where you can get a glimpse down into it if the lights are on. #1 on my bucket list for Rome, sadly unlikely now.

Altar not alter.

​@@iDuckmanWhy unlikely? I got tickets pretty easily

​@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist8 God wouldn't allow any of this. He has abandoned this race that has been blindly enslaved for almost 2,000 years. Templars used his name to kill and destroy whilst they praised the baphomet, and the Catholics use his name to destroy thousands, maybe millions of children's lives, that's why all those sick degenerates stay within their Vatican.

The story about the remains of the so-called St. Peter is just that, a story. Peter, whose actual name was Simon, has never set foot in Rome. As per Paul, he also never converted to Jesus' teachings, which, by the way, it was an anti-religion, anti-sacerdotal class message. The Catholic Church would destroy or appropriate many of the pagan temples and every Christian "tradition" is in fact a pagan or Buddhist one. The very existence of the Catholic Church we have today is the result of one of the biggest fraud in the history of humankind, a fraud even the Catholic Encyclopedia is admitting to.

It was probably symbols like the fish or the anchor or the chi-ro sign

*Hip Hop Font, what is this?

@@IvarEriksson83genuine question or fishing for outrage?

See the life of Brian haha

Yeah right coz hip hop invented graffitti.

It must have some pretty robust subterranean support columns and arches/vaults.

Kind of amazing how many underground tunnels there are under loads of cities.

@@gothicwestern I mean, that one kind of makes sense. There isn't any room in the surface to build anything else, so until steel beams are invented your only option is to dig down.

@@alexandersalter6686 it does, some walls over 7 feet thick.

Thank the Roman obsession with arches I suppose.

What’s your home city?

@@cjclark1208 Brindisi city, also known as Brundisium, is a name that most historians and enthusiasts of Ancient Rome are familiar with! :D

All true, but this one, due to what happened to it, is amazingly conserved and you can walk in there, it feels like time traveling when you are there, most paintings and mosaics preserved. When they filled the sepulchers they didn't break the whole thing, instead they made a small hole in the ceiling and filled them with dirt, effectively preserving everything.

Let's go on an adventure and explore these lost cities lmao

As an American I’ve always been fascinated that Europeans can walk around and not be in complete awe of the places they stand. So much history soaked into the ground so deeply. I’m so envious.

I believe referred to the Christian iconography in another video.

Shhh Protestants will be raging

Protestants don't worship icons like Roman Catholics do, as the Bible warns against it. ​@@t.d6379

Just a detail, these are not the catacombs, this is a Roman standard cemetery above the ground (that fortuitously ended up covered for 1600 years) with beautifully decorated colombariums and marble sculpted sepulcres, no cristians sepultures are visible. And while they excavated it in the 40s it only opened to public very recently. Going there is like visiting Rome 2000 years ago and walking through a narrow street. It's a shame that they don't allow to take photos...

Lmao son you must of not of ever gotten laid!😂

Ugh, was that after you threw the ring into Mordor? 🙄

@@BleachDemon707🤣🤣👍🏼

Yeah nice but... If you buy a house downtown Rome, you will carefully abstain to dig more than a couple of centimeters under it, as you wouldn't be happy when something remarkable is found and excavated under your (former) house... as a minimum you will lose use of your basement

@@sandrodunatov485 I'll just don't tell anybody.

​@@spiritualanarchist8162😂 pretty much illigal to do tho

@@bepinkfloyd814 Well that's why it's a dream. Digging into the fundaments of a house in Rome destabilizing an appartement block and ruining archaeological findings is not something I'd advise people to do in real life 😅

Do you believe saint Peter was really buried there

Yea

what a cool gig

very true

Remember the mottos of the Church in those times: " Do as You must God will recoignize his own." And " As long as you do whatever with the intention of helping god. Know this You will be rewarded."

So who cares. Say is for god or think is for god. And You can do whatever You want

Preserving history and ancient monuments wasn’t really a thing before the enlightenment, even in other parts of the world.

@@alialassadi5576 and even in that time and place, when the new basilica was being built there were many who were enrage that even the church history , was being torn down... but they didn't care. And this happens sometimes today as well, just think of the gilded age mansions and buildings torn down in NY. The problem is always people who do not care being in power positions.

In 1968 I was given a tour of St Peter's in I was walked down those stairs and it was told to me that Peter was buried here.

I don't understand the Egyptian obelisk's veneration by the Vatican and it's position of prominence there. This was a pagan symbol in Caligula and Nero's Circus which witnessed the slaughter of thousands of people; slaves, gladiators, Christians, innumerable animals, some in just blood sport, others in pagan rituals. So why is this obelisk in the center of the holiest of holy Christian enclaves??

@@ladywisewolf3942 It’s likely the Vatican preserved the obelisk due to the mere fact that it’s ancient history. As a Christian, I too find it perplexing as to why the Vatican would install and preserve the overtly pagan obelisk…yet…I find the sexually perverse naked statues of hermaphrodites, goddesses and the like on full display within the walls of the Vatican itself. I can appreciate fine art, even if it’s a “naked” babe, but it’s the sexually, pagan perverseness of Roman deities that is disturbing to me! You certainly won’t find anything of the sort in or near the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Have a wonderful weekend!🇨🇦😊🇨🇦

@@shelleyhender8537 It's a matter that the Almighty God has created us perfectly. Man made clothing. Through the insecurities of the mindset. Created by man masters. Rome and Romans as well Greeks were very entwined with the Egyptian beliefs and customs. Egyptians were the first people to believe in a singular God. The word Amen is Egyptian. The story of The Egyptian god Horus, is the same as Jesus Christ word for word. The holy Cross is Egyptian. The similarities are unbelievable. And as stated, Man's History.

@@patrickgaimari4478 I appreciate your response. Have a great weekend!🇨🇦😊🇨🇦

If only my teachers throughout school were this captivating. Not to mention the subpar curriculum. One of my favorite youtube channels.

Yeah… that didn’t happen.

@@caseyschryber1255 It definitely happened. You need to read your history books.

@@trentp151definitely did not happen!

They could then make it a public exhibition where you travel down back in time.

I really hope not- it could end up destroying an immense amount of history if done so recklessly. It would be like a modern day example of what happened at Troy... Much better to just use sonar/X-ray technology to scan it and slowly over years with many archaeologists carefully dig and reveal what is discovered.

@WelcomeToDERPLAND Sonar and X-ray is how it's done now and they still find Charlemagne's nephew's bones when they build a parking lot. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

@@samuelb1007 Yes but that was a freak stand out case- it's incredibly lucky that the parking lot was all they were building there and didn't have to dig deeper to build foundation, otherwise without an archaeologist advisor watching the construction take place- they could have destroyed the bones and anything else in the vicinity. It took years of a single extremely dedicated person doing an immense amount of research, petitioning and work to finally check the spot and its incredible it actually panned out. Just taking a ice boring drill and going straight down to take a chunk out of whatever is below Vatican city would certainly destroy anything it ran into, bringing up only the remaining parts of it.

@@WelcomeToDERPLANDThe only real downside of Geo-physiology is that with the scans, they can only make out shapes and holes in the Earth. They are unable to confirm anything without an excavation and archeological study of artifacts. Both of which, the Catholic Church simply won't allow. X rays and sonar wont show you much of anything, you're not looking through soft tissue or the water, you're searching through layers of dirt and rock.

What archeologists wouldn't do to get that opportunity. The Catholic church is too afraid of the scientific community proving anything they say wrong, so they'll keep up with their oral tradition, and prevent anyone from doing any real study of the archeological site. In history and archeology there are areas the cross over with religious oral traditions. Any time archeologists examine the evidence, they tend to prove that the historical evidence doesn't match the stories within the oral tradition. Perhaps the most famous being that Moses free'd the Jewish Slaves of Egypt as told in the bible. No evidence has ever been provided that the ancient Egyptians ever had Jewish slaves. No cultural or archeological evidence exists that suggests Jewish people ever lived in Egypt in ancient times. No real evidence that slaves of any race existed in Pharaonic Egypt, when the Bible claims there were Jewish slaves in Egypt, During the reign of Pharaoh Ramses II (Ramses the great). I mean, the catholic church really doesn't like it when entire stories in the bible are proven wrong, so they wont likely ever let anyone study these tombs. They wont like what they hear, that they built their massive church on top of a cemetery of people who worshiped goat-men with large erect penises.

Destroy a beautiful building to look at old crappy building remnants. Brilliant. 😂

@TheMoneypresident nobody said anything about destroying the basilica. Its not like they'd have to tear the whole thing down to check it out, you're crazy. There's already access points to those areas that exist, the catholic church rarely ever let's anyone down there. They simply don't want any evidence to surface that it might not be the place peter was buried, since there's no real proof or evidence that Peter, any of the other disciples, or Jesus for that matter ever existed as historical figures in the first place... but hey, the more you know.

@TheMoneypresident just keep in mind that the first historical accounts of that being the location of Peter's burial came from Constantine's era. Over 300 years after Peter's death. Without a legitimate archeological study we won't ever know for certain any of these "beliefs" the catholics have about Peter and that location. But that's the way the catholic church wants it.

@@TheMoneypresident what? using Sonar/Ultra-Sound & X-rays to check various areas under famous ancient buildings then carefully peeling a small area of the ground proven to have 'something' under it- done by professionals as delicately as possible would never destroy any building it's done to.

Probably a lot since every Abrahamic religion worships a pagan god that’s like the equivalent to Thor in Germanic paganism. The Yahweh/Allah that Christian’s, Muslims and Jews worship is a Babylonian/Sumerian pagan god and not even the main one. The difference is that some people know the real god they’re worshipping and most don’t because they’ve been lied to.

Beyond your wildest dreams

Vatica - goddess of Etrurscians

Amazing Plaza indeed.. Madrid became capital of Spain in 1561. Before, the Aragon was most powerful. Funny that Atletico has strong Argentinian ties.

100% it was once a roman circus, where they would persecute and put criminals to death. It would make sense if they simply carried the remains to the edge of the circus and buried the remains there. Not in a typical roman burial of cremation, but as you were, diseased and all.

@@ReadIcculus93 I am wondering if you have read Rodolfo Lanciani, who said in this book 'Pagan and Christian Rome' (1892) "...in the reign of Nero, the topography of the Vatican district, which was crossed by the Via Cornelia, was as follows:-On the left of the road was a circus begun by Caligula, and finished by Nero; on the right a line of tombs built against the clay cliffs of the Vatican. The circus was the scene of the first sufferings of the Christians, described by Tacitus in the well-known passage of the "Annals," xv.45. Some of the Christians were covered with the skins of wild beasts so that savage dogs might tear them to pieces; others were besmeared with tar and tallow, and burnt at the stake; others were crucified (crucibus adfixi), while Nero in the attire of a vulgar auriga ran his races around the goals. This took place in A.D. 65. Two years later the leader of the Christians shared the same fate in the same place. He was affixed to a cross like the others, and we know exactly where. A tradition current in Rome from time immemorial says that S. Peter was executed inter duas metas (between the two metae), that is, in the spina or middle line of Nero's circus, at an equal distance from the two end goals..." This has always fascinated me. And Dr. Ryan's wonderful video seems to support this possibility. I realize and appreciate that many are not convinced of Peter and the many traditions associated with same, but it does seem possible, given the evidence uncovered and new emerging interpretations?

Kind of, but remember that it continued in use until Constantine around 330AD. I believe the circus was no longer in use back then. I guess it got upgraded over time ;) The Roman colombariums in there are very decorated. And the marble tombs are beautifully sculpted.

Do you mean Rome itself or the Vatican? The short answer is that it became a holy site since a great saint was buried in it. When Christians were persecuted, they could not build any public building over that but with Constantine legalizing Christianity and endowing the Church with gifts, the site of St Peter’s tomb which was preserved in the traditions of the Roman Christians became one of the places where he would build a basilica (the other was the site of St Paul’s tomb).

Strategic advantages Rome had include: 1. River access 2. On a hill 3. Peninsula in the middle of a sea that connects several powerful and wealthy states Also power likes to find a comfy spot and stay there if at all possible.

Thank yall for the good answers. Monikers seems to make more sense as far as cultures go, pagans wouldn't care about another culture martyrs and vice versa

The church SAID a great saint was buried there and provided no proof. After all, would the Catholic Church lie? Right?@@raphaelledesma9393

@@raphaelledesma9393 Christians were persecuted for roughly 13 years in general. 3 years in the 3rd century and after half a century they were percecuted for 9 more years until 313. what you talk about does not make any historical sense and belongs in the christian folklore just like the supposed tomp of Jesus that is build again by Constantine on top of an ancient pagan temple of Aphrodite . Helen claimed she found the cross of Jesus there 300 years after Jesus lived. This again is impossible, the temple existed there before Jesus.. Constantine tried to erase the pagan mythology and create a new one out of thin air.

All of which was stolen.

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You don't wait for your mother to ask when you honor her

No the Vatican, esp st peters IS THE SATANIC TEMPLE.

They built their temples over shrines and temples, not over burial grounds.

In the tomba of the Julii there is a Mosaic that is mix with pagan and a Christ Like figure. Very Strange

It means and I quote, " assholes live here".

Between dust and human waste of all kinds, even during rome's prime, new doors were cut I to buildings higher up as refuse built up over centurys.

Like London and all of middle east, all built on older cities. Erosion. Waste.

Yes it's normal. Cities are settled in specific places for specific reasons, and as long as those factors don't change neither will their location. What will change is the culture, quality of their buildings, and the materials used. Look up the concept of "Tel" Mounds in the Middle East. Areas that look like natural hills are actually ancient cities, and you can chart the advancement of that settlement by starting at the bottom and working up.

Conquest

That is something that happens in very, very old cities--buildings sink into the dirt over the years, and wind and earthquakes and such help that process. Roma went so long after the fall of the Empire and Senate without anyone to care for her ancient monuments that they were simply buried by the passage of time, some intentionally so, such as here, where Constantine buried the mausoleums to build his basilica, allowing the walls and vaulted roofs of the graves to serve as foundations. After that, knowledge and record of the mausoleums became lost or forgotten.

They initiated the construction of one of the towers, but the main central portico began to crack due to unbalance of charge over the general structure. After that, it was considered too risky to acomplish the project as it was designed, originally including two towers, as its shown. Sorry for my english, it's not my first language.

Now that's commitment