F🌸CK YES Kelly. Thank you! She is expressing a perspective of the Feminine that women don’t even realize they are yearning for & NEED. This is the true awakening & rise of the feminine, that in turn empowers the rise of the Masculine. Hallelujah!
Listening to this whilst I clean the bathrooms, and I’m happy and content to be doing it. Unlike the many years I was stressed out and unhappy working in a 6 figure salary job. Feminism has left many women unhappy & unfulfilled, promiscuity only benefits men, and putting off kids for your career leaves a gaping hole that no amount of money will fill as the years pass. Unfortunately we have been manipulated into thinking men are the enemy and a successful career is the pinnacle of life achievement. Women have been sold a massive lie. And it’s much appreciated to hear a women speak the truth about the feminist movement and it’s creation by the rockerfellars. So many fail to understand what was done deliberately to destroy the strong family unit, and to lower the value of work. Back in the day a family could live comfortably on a man’s wage, now double income struggling. And it’s only getting worse, inflation is just another tax. We are living at a time of a massive choice point, I hope and pray that folk wake up to the brutal reality of what’s been done to them and stand up and say no more.
Yes, Yes, Yes & Yes! I haven’t even listened to this whole podcast, but your comment, I could have written myself. Women, children, men & families have been the target of a propaganda campaign going back to at least the early 70’s.. Rockefellers & Henry Kissinger. Kissinger’s #NSSM200 Re: world depopulation is completely diabolical & still operating today. I remember feeling that girls/women were being indoctrinated to all aspire to be anything other than Wives/Mothers in the late 70’s & still have a paper I wrote about it. I went on to do the college, corporate career thing, and married, but then quit when my first Son was born. I remember having to unload some of the Secular materialist feminist junk from my head.. that equates empowerment & being ‘successful’ with a big paycheck & a title. It just didn’t resonate with Who I Really Am & what I believe is important/valuable for myself, children & family. I raised 3 Sons, now grown & became very aware of how we were LIED to re: boys/girls being the same & the differences were mostly ‘cultural’ .. hogwash! Lol They taught me so much! And the campaign to emasculate boys/men is destructive to men/boys & society at large. It’s not genuinely strong men that are dangerous.. it’s the emotionally stunted, weak men, that are the bullies… Those without loving , involved, emotionally available, Mothers & Fathers! So much easier to see, in extreme hindsight. 💫🦋💫
Wow, I thought this interview was great, but the more I listened and the deeper it went, the more I realized that it is PROFOUND in so many ways!! She is brilliant and raw. I love how aware and honest she is and how you can see she is open to evolving and changing her beliefs when met with new and valuable information. This is a fantastic conversation that spoke deeply to some of the things I have been heavily reflecting upon lately myself. Thank you both
YESSS!!! Incredible. She's really attuned to the collective through her deeply raw and embodied experince as a women. I felt the same ...it took until about minute 47:00 for me to really drop in and land, after that I was fully with it until the end ....so much wisdom in this interview....so honest.
I freaking LOVE this woman. Kelly articulates so well all the things I innately feel and would have never been able to put into words, and might have never even acknowledged within myself.
Thank you for creating a safe space for men and women to share their hearts, and soulful stories in the healing of our collective woundedness - dather & mother wound. It’s a wonderful feeling to be home, safe in my own body after years of doing my own healing journey. What a blessing to remember who we are beyond our childhood conditioning. 😊 Blessings everyone. ❤
Grateful to see this pop up on my feed… Kelly is brilliant and articulates this knowledge so well, giving such open & vulnerable context from her own life. Incredible interview. Thank you. 🫶🏽
Andre, your ability to hold safe space for all these brilliant minds to open up and share not just their brilliant thoughts but their own personal journey through the maturation process…GOLD. The examples of just how messy it is to be human. That humility of vulnerability more than their ideas is why I eagerly listen to everyone you bring on. I grow my own self acceptance with increasing compassion for myself and all of us with every brilliant mind you interview. The content for this one…as a 50 year old woman, I feel so emotionally validated to listen to a psychiatrist, activist, mother, woman, daughter, lover give, give, give her own “know thyself” insights is so profoundly an example of what I’ve been bouncing around in internal roller coaster my whole life. I can give myself safe “containment” too! The “know thyself” + “me too” = acceptance of each unique soulpath journey. Much love and gratitude Namaste
totally agree. I was especially impressed with how he handled Teal Swan when she started getting a little antagonistic at the end of her interview. He just listened and gave her space. I would have been all over the place, star struck, and accomodating. Andre just rested in his chair and let her speak.
This podcast provided me with an opportunity to practice “nonjudgement” and to appreciate the parts of her story that aligned with me and to empathize with her for the parts that didn’t. Great episode.
Yes learned this on my own after realizing by going within my decisions are true to this world in a human body and myself. Not dealing with others on the outside as the vision of myself. Being with the people I want to be with doing everything I love to do, enjoying the flow of life. Meditation is my truth.
The fact that as a woman, you are here speaking publicly about these topics, is a victory of feminism. Be clear - things were not better in previous generations - people just had no connection to their pain as they were in constant survival mode. That has lessened - suffering has lessened, abuse has lessened. We just talk about it more now cause we're processing it. Feminism is a reaction to patriarchy, so it will never be perfect. There is no perfect victim
Feminism was created by the very same people who inflict and foment the suffering and abuse you say. They also created a history that says that things were not better before to back it up. If you study and understand the actual tenets of the philosophy of feminism, not by what some propaganda says, but by what the actual originators of it wrote, you'll see it was never intended to do any good nor it ever will. The only "good" it can be said it has done, is putting some criminals here and there to jail, but this is just what corrupted politicians have to do sometimes to their own kind to sell a new "salvation" ideology to the public.
Wow, thank you for bringing this guest on. I so appreciate her ability to deeply contemplate paradox, self inquiry through self-accountability is truly the narrative that is not popular.
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Love the IFS talk and perspective, easier to understand parts 🩵
Man your perspective on c sections blows me away! My experience so different, having 5 vaginal births, with epidermal, best experiences of my life! Crazy, just always had a positive outlook and everything went well. Just had to chime in
The most PROFOUND guest yet. And I am a long time listener. Massive shifts can be had by taking heed to what this powerful woman is expressing. As a Holistic Psychologist myself it is a great breath of fresh air when One has done the work to come to this awareness of Self and God.
She is so beautiful, eloquent, smart, and articulated so much of my own internal journey and evolution through and from a "Feminist" lens. Medicina. Thank you, thank you.
Time for a new book, young lady. I'll buy it. Saw a hilarious write up about you on Wikipedia. Insane world, sadly. Thank you for this fabulous podcast. Just wow, shared to all my friends
It’s only since doing the internal work that I have come to this realisation. I would always have been against marriage, my parents didn’t have a loving relationship , my father cheated on my mother on a continuous basis, it made me really anti everything, I was never going to live my mothers life. Now I have totally turned a corner, I would love to marry now, I would love to share my life with a person that I can connect with. I would love for the man to take charge, be in his masculine but in touch with his feminine side. It’s crazy, sometimes I don’t recognise myself. But the internal work that I have done, the mindfulness and peace that I live in now is so amazing. Being a single mom, I feel I am too much in my masculine. I would love to be given the opportunity to soften and live the life that we were intended to live.
I totally agree! I love how Andre speaks with the intent to clarify, emphasize or move the conversation forward as opposed to proving how smart he is (like many do). I respect and admire that about him.
As a man understanding not only my masculine side ,- but also the very important feminin side I DO UNDERSTAND she is so right about this. There is only one way to have a good marriage / relationship witrh man and woman : they both have to respect and understand feminism and the masculine. Like yin and yang sort of....
Yes. That's actually the whole point of the relationship,to explore the opposite pole and validate it as it is.The more you validate it,the more your own pole is revealed to you, and to the world. We're almost there hopefully.
I am in the home of a mother and her 45 year old son, as what should be, HIS partner. I no longer LIVE there, but now they have a dog. I don't know where to start. I have to LEAN OUT OF THAT DYNAMIC, yet... Such a good story to have to relay to others. I am pitted as the outsider, IN WHAT FEELS LIKE, ALL FORMS. AGAIN. IDK WHERE to even begin.
She blew my brains open with all of my childhood mom issues and putting words to how to give myself true self-containment I’ve been seeking my entire life.
I made the mistake by jumping into plant medicine before having a better sense of my actual health and past. I thought plant medicine would be a wondrous and beautiful element to leaning into holistic healing which I still believe to be true but not as a “starting” point. Just my thought after my experience. I’m still recovering from the deep seated pain it unveiled in me on an emotionally and mental level that I actually wasn't prepared for. I honor and respect plant medicine on an entire new level BUT with this doctor’s mindset in full heart and mind: Start with the basics first ❤
I am interested in ayahuasca but fearful of what it would uncover. I don’t feel that emotionally balanced as is but was hoping plant medicine could help me where traditional therapy has not been able to. Curious about your experience.
I've really started to acknowledge that being human in itself is an entire process of unfolding that takes a tremendous amount of grace, patience, and time. To meet plant medicine is to meet your subconscious (and beyond). No one can really tell you how your mind (brain), body, and soul will respond, which is why I think basic care should be primary. Overall you’re left with “coming back” to reality and coping with that as well. I’m drawn to these spiritual videos like this, but there is so much more that needs to be conceptualized with these individuals- maybe these people have great mentorship for plant medicine, maybe these people have been on the path for many many years, maybe these people have actual Shaman’s etc. maybe they can afford higher level treatment being medically supervised while practicing this medicine, etc. There’s a very popular Hawwaiin prayer that’s so beautiful that speaks directly to the subconscious part of us that goes: “I love you, I am sorry, please forgive me, thank you.” In this prayer and tradition the notion is that the subconscious mind is the “child” and our conscious “mind” is the mother, and with this prayer we speak to the subconscious in a way that takes ownership of the care it needs. The mother (conscious) takes full responsibility for the emotional pain the child (subconscious) holds and stores. The last bit of this cultural belief is that the subconscious (child) holds all the memories since the beginning of creation, just as our soul has been around a lot longer than we have, the subconscious holds the memories and information of our mother, our father, our ancestors, past lives, etc., so this really put it into perspective of how delicate this topic really is for me now. I overstepped a boundary with my own “inner-child/subconscious” by jumping the gun. I will honor this process in the future with potentially seeking a teacher/shaman/ to lead me slowly down the path. One last bit! Here’s a great resource by another doctor that I found to use as a beauty tonic for my face muscles and it actually turned out to be a very holistic approach to healing. It was like uncovering gold for me! programpeace.com/ @@virginiacreager4331
Thank you…. I know this bliss of dedication to self…. It’s really amazing to ooze loving energy onto all of those we touch… This is who we are! And now…. Honestly those times when other humans are not so kind to us:,… yes we throw up that wall but for some reason I feel love for this poor soul and ai back away and give them space…. It works
I can say this now because at 69 it doesn't come up like it did in my teens through 50's, the amount of spiteful female jealously that I could feel directed at me when comments were made about my 'perfect' body or appearance from women that were Not jealous. I was always mortified and tried to cover up and or, put myself down with some stupid comment to dilute some of this jealous energy I was feeling as an energy sensitive being because I didn't want those women to react to me as they did. I wish now I could have just said 'thank you' and not care about the issues of others, but that wasn't the case. I have been learning to just say NO when I don't want to do something and I cannot believe the resistance from others--they want a reason. Even close friends when I tell them I am learning to just say NO without explaining keep pushing --yikes! Anyways, than you Kelly for providing me with much gentler words, "It doesn't work for me" is what I will start using.
Kelly, your courageous articulation of your inner journey of acceptance is beautiful. ✨️ Thank you for giving a voice to those aspects of ourselves that we would like to overcomplicate and/or disown. In patiently recognizing those pieces of ourselves that are in need of a loving embrace, we are actively prioritizing compassionate self- acceptance over critical self-judgment. Essentially, we are initiating and integrating ourselves into a kinder, deeper relationship with... ourselves 💗 This is the most humbling path. So appreciating you allowing us to be a witness to your inner alchemy. 💫💜💫
This woman is a trailblazing soul-searcher with a level of bravery that fires me up! I used to follow her. Bought and read her books, joined her memberships. Got annoyed. Left. It's been years now since listening to something from her once again, and I'm so glad I did. Great interview André (as they tend to be here on your channel). She is tapping into something so deep and fundamental - literally meeting all the sharpest of edges contained within and without as a woman. It makes me want to go hunting, half naked, and with her, seeking out the next judgement-portal to source my next supremely personal self-awareness bomb.
Dearest Dr. Kelly Brogan ~Thank you SOOO MUCH for this vulnerable, honest, deep, expanded reclaiming ideas for the feminine. I felt so much! This felt like water to a parched body for me. Thank you! Andre you hold the space so well! Thank you! I would love more interview’s between you two with your views spoken more too. I found it healing to hear her and see your perspective too!
Very intresting. One thing i ponder about is what would be the system or way of life we can create that can balance the polarity but yet the positive to be more pronounced. If we do one great dead...instead one big bad thing happening...smaller 1000 bad things happen to where its almsot unnoticeable. One thing i thought of is how this digital, AI age can make negative consequences more in the digital realm rather than the physical. Therefore relieve of physical pain through consequences in this new digial, augmented, virtual reality we are about to witness in the coming years. I've intuitively always felt there is no escaping the polarity and that its essential for this universe's very existense. But finding a way to balance it better may be the key.
She’s being so vulnerable and pure and you almost don’t notice because she’s okay in her nervous system being truly seen. Love to see her modeling that.
I agree with her on the points that the idea of feminism was highjacked to benefit the patriarchy and capitalism. But I also believe that the shift had to happen for women to shift the dynamic and not be under the thumb of a man opening up for the divine feminine. Our grandmothers only a few generations back were to be seen not heard..so something big had to happen. There’s even dangers stepping into the divine feminine era for women that are no awake enough..
Wow! WhT an intelligent, authentic and deep conversation. I relate deeply to every word. I can’t even wait to the end to leave a comment. One of the best guests so far!
The timing of this podcast could not have been better for my own process. It really does look like she’s describing an archetypal process that the Divine Feminine (or conscious women or spiritual women or whatever terms you want to use), is moving through. Teal Swan seemed to be talking about it as well in her interview last month. Thank you as always for the experience of community Andre 🙏🏻 parts of the path can be incredibly isolating, what you’re doing is invaluable.
Nice Podcast. This is the third I am watching. I like you don't speak over the guests. My opinion is We are unique and it's beautiful! Neither feminism nor patriarchy are useful to our development and thrive.
This was truly so so healing for my soul to hear. It is what it has been looking for to hear, without even knowing that those words, could answer unasked questions. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Yes!! Why should we women be considered to be emancipated only when we fit into a world - especially the world of careerism - which was originally designed for the male sex?
There was sth in me that went "ding ding" when she said she felt superior towards her past versions. 💥 I also judge my past versions and I'd love to stop doing that
I do think we are more evolved than the previous generations but that doesn’t mean we get to look down on them. We stand on their shoulders, we are who we are because of the trials they survived. Everything we do can empower the generations that follow; they will be more evolved than us and that is beautiful. 🙏
2027 we enter the new 411 year backround frequency of the cross of the sleeping phoenix, the path of individuation. We leave the cross of planning where the background frequency was devotion to the exterior whole but now we transition to the inner whole. Therefore A lot of shake up expected!
Loved every thing about this as I do with many of your shows. As a self proclaimed “truther” holistic healer momma and some one deeply curios about polarity dynamics with out them running out of tangible balance I found this extremely insightful and lovely. Thank you both. Following you now Kelly. Andre I have followed you for a while. Thank you for this platform and subjects you raise to awareness of the aligned.
I think it is healthy HUMANE BEINGS that recognize sexual connection to be primarily about depeening emotional and spiritual connection... amd that it is very unhealthy for HUMANE BEINGS to degrade sexual connecting as superficial 🙄🙄🙄
Fabulous description of my personal journey. Apparently we all go through reclamation in one for or other. Advocacy is not for the faint of heart. Activism is more physically and verbally active than advocacy which seems to be more of an on demand ~ on call type setup.
Wow! I was blown away by Kelly's ability to articulate exactly what my thoughts have been over struggles I have personally faced over the past few years as a "strong" woman who left a 22.5 year marriage. I was "forced" to represent the masculine energy over the years & had become someone I did not recognize or desire to be. I now see that I have longed to feel safe in my femininity for decades. I finally realized the organic need for yin & yang in relationships, & knew at a spiritual level that my former husband was not prepared to step into his masculinity, so I could either continue to suffer, or I could leave. I chose myself, & I left. It has taken me these past 5 years to embrace the woman I really am, I just had to rediscover her. 💜 Thank you for this interview!
Love the direction of your energy these days, Kelly.☺️👌🏼 As a typically masculinized woman, I have been experiencing the same trajectory of recognition and reclamation in recent years. It would seem the Akashic field is releasing this evolutionary understanding at this time.. Here’s to the continued spiral of expansion, wherever it may lead.💜💃 Andre, your depth of space holding and intuitive understanding is epic, as always. 🎉
❤❤❤ this wa S beautifully profound and very a vulnerable perspective on true femininity. I greatly appreciate this conversation and this woman’s courage to tell it like it is!! Absofuckinglutely love you! Thank you both!
I would like to remind Kelly that a bunch of white knights pulled her out of hell as she has done for many since and that cycle will continue forward. Of course that genuine light of helpfulness is subtle and rare and often misconstrued as rage and depression but it DOES exist. We should try to help our fellows. Not to save the but to help them to save theirselves.
Thank you for sharing. I absolutely resonated with the judgement from other women. All of it💯 really 💪 I feel that if women were kinder to one another… maybe it would take the competition factor out that men use, at times ,to manipulate us ladies. Not hating on men. This does happen often. Truth without judgement no matter how difficult it is … is where I want to be with the people in my life 💪💞💯 I absolutely love this podcast 🙏🔥💞
She’s referring to the internal family systems by Richard Schwartz when she’s talking about parts work. He has done profound work to help people understand their differences t parts; exiles, managers, firefighters, etc. Just thought it to be fair to acknowledge his work as she speaks on it.
Loved learning how as a woman connecting deeply to my feminine energy ultimately lets life just flow. I’m open to being the teacher and student, mother and child, right and wrong. When I release control or outcome I see the more I grow and know the more I realize how much I don’t know. So does that mean I have to stop telling my 20 yr daughter to use her manners, stand straight, be well groomed, smell good, never have a dirty toilet or car? …….. 😍. I’m in my infancy on this journey 😄
Excellent chat. I found the whole covaids situation such a valuable learning experience in regards to what Kelly calls, the shadow of activism. I was never the one at rallies screaming, with a sign, asking for my "freedoms" to be restored but I was at rallies and I did have that intense drive to be right. Now I don't really have too much interest in what the government, or global cabal, is scheming as I believe immersing yourself in that kind of research does not program the nervous system for peace.
It's nice to hear someone also finding root cause for women rights coming from males wanting to earn more money. I actually was thinking like this for a long time. More buying power, not from acknowledging equal rights to live.
Love Kelly 🙌 her interview on Joe Rogan helped me start my journey of learning about the connection of food and our mental health, beautiful and courageous person
From a 2nd wave feminist in her late 50s, i dont relate or agree with much of this. You are blaming the wrong thing for losing your womanhoodanyone who swings this big from one perspective to the opposite is still very confused.and should not be positioning themselves as a thought leader, or you will push your confusion onto others.
What if youre a women who has masculine traits who likes lipstick? Why would you never tell a man how to man, but let a msn, Deida, tell you how to woman?
