The Panasonic S5 | A Powerful Camera For Filmmaking!

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In this video, I go over my thoughts on the Panasonic Lumix S5 and how it stacks up against my 8-year-old GH3. With such a powerful cinematic camera, will it become my new camera for filmmaking?
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@NigelBarros 3 года назад

What's your favorite feature about the S5?

@DeepteshLovesTECH 3 года назад

Nigel, try the XT-4 bro! Sweet spot between FF and MFT with very small lenses and better AF than any Panasonic camera. Cheaper than S5 but does everything 10 bit from 4k60 to 1080p240. Cheap lenses like the XC 35f2 or Viltrox 23 f1.4.

@mattprince2007 3 года назад

@@DeepteshLovesTECH Both of them lenses have hideous focus breathing. The XT4 is good but not as good quality as the S5 (I have both). The low light capabilities of the S5 absolutely destroy the Fuji XT4. It’s not even close.

@jeremiahcook1649 3 года назад

The sensor

@waynesanders1406 3 года назад

Year 2037, Month August: Nigel posts a new video - "A Review of the Panasonic S17 - Should I finally retire my GH3?"

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@RudyAyoub 3 года назад

bro you posted a video in 4k? who are you bro 🙈

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Basically all my videos are posted in 4k ✌🏼

@Jay.Lima. 3 года назад

Check out his last video, in wich he explains the steps to such black magic.

@PVMMAC 3 года назад

😂😂

@kyleexten9998 3 года назад

Rudy Rudy Rudy

@kevinorlando8936 3 года назад

Didn’t expect to see Rudy here…huh

@sachatend 3 года назад

The highlight roll off on s5 is so damn nice!

@danielaudacious 3 года назад

Wow faithful to that GH3... bIg ups to you for not folding for so many years. I have a 2016 80D & a 2018 EOS R, this guy is killing it with a camera that came out in 2012. I gotta say your the man.

@ShredBrosLTD 3 года назад

Good going man, really glad Panasonic recognises you and sent you out a full frame 👊🏻

@tobiasmoeckel 3 года назад

I think it's amazing that you are still rocking a GH3! You're like the antidote to all those many gear-driven channels that constantly make you wonder "should I upgrade? should I upgrade?". Nice video!

@douglasbrown2210 3 года назад

Absolutely love my S5. I’ve been wanting to join the Panasonic family and finally leave Canon behind. Couldn’t justify going M43 always felt like a step back regardless of the awesomeness of the GH5. Zero buyers remorse for my Panasonic S5 😁 Great video, thank you.

@PriceFilmPhoto 3 года назад

I give the S5 props, but like you said - investing in L-Mount lenses would be counterproductive when you have so many MFT Lens. Here's to holding out for a GH6.

@mrnttv2966 3 года назад

If only this camera become To existence... we hope to...

@andersistbesser 3 года назад

@@mrnttv2966 me too

@joshdiditt 3 года назад

I just got this camera two weeks ago (coming from FUji) and I love it. There's not a better camera out there for $2000. The only thing is that most of the Sigma L mount lenses Autofocus is loud and unusable with exception of the 24-70 2.8. The autofocus is not that bad with the included kit lens or Panasonic lenses.

@techlessYT 3 года назад

The Fuji XT3 and Panasonic G9 would be great cameras for you to look at as well. With those 2 in addition to the S5 you basically would have the cheapest 10 bit option for every (relevant) sensor size on hand.

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Very true, I've been wanting to get my hands on an XT-3/4 and might pick one up soon!

@LowDoughTech 3 года назад

This review is great, but Dude, your font design in this video is top notch.

@thebentzenable Год назад

In August 2023 I wanna thank you for your video, Mine is coming today 🙏

@patplays412 3 года назад

Don’t be afraid of telling the viewers what you think they’ve already heard from other reviewers and youtubers, we want to hear it from you man, that’s why we keep coming back! Would have loved to see a more in-depth comparison of the hardware and menu system of the cameras as well as the video they both produce. However, great as always man. Love chilling to your videos 🤙

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

I appreciate that man! I'll definitely be having more videos on the S5 for sure!

@16views 3 года назад

awesome video dude!

@pshant94 3 года назад

I have a GH5 and love it, the only thing that tempted me about the S5 is improved AF! otherwise, i was in the same boat about wanting to keep my MFT lens library

@ernestoxavier4769 2 года назад

The S5 has very usable AF, it hasn’t failed me while recording music videos ad short films!

@FlyByFrancis 3 года назад

This camera looks so promising 😁😁 Thanks for the info Nigel.

@NathanJEllerton 3 года назад

Super useful video, hoping to pick one of these up after a couple pay days!

@adam_jumps 3 года назад

Was waiting for this 🙏 thank you for the content, dreaming of the day I pick up an S5

@Aviciiz 3 года назад

Recently upgraded my G80 to the S5 and the colours are so much better

@brysimm404 3 года назад

A tip to consider... buy full frame capable lenses (prime & zoom) that are Canon EF mount, or can easily / cheaply be adapted to Canon EF - then convert S5 body to EF mount with a not super expensive adapter ($150 with electronic communication). I’ve done this with GH5 using a $50 EF to M43 adapter for several years, and now with S5. This way my one kit of good EF lenses can be used on either cam body, not limited to being only M43 or L cam mount. Has worked great for me to get nice vintage & modern era lenses that were WAY more affordable buying used than new dedicated mount glass (or having to buy redundant focal lengths)! 😃

@ernestoxavier4769 2 года назад

Does autofocus work if you use the adapter? Is it usable?

@LucaBono.Studio 3 года назад

Great video Nigel! You should get the 24-105 F4, IBIS + OIS will let you forget about your gimbal! I only film handheld with this combo ;)

@steveschnetzler5471 3 года назад

I have a G9 & s1r, and I still carry/use the G9 most. Small, light lenses rock, thanks.

@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 3 года назад

I like how you talk about the bias. Of course we’re all biased to the cameras that work for us. But being biased because it does a great job for you - that’s completely reasonable. I can’t help but love Panasonic as well. The 10bit is something that I can no longer live without. Can’t seem to find a reason to leave my GH5!!

@andersistbesser 3 года назад

I own a gh5 but i never used 10 bit. Is it really such a big difference?

@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 3 года назад

@@andersistbesser If you are shooting standard picture profiles and not doing a lot of colour grading - you won't notice any difference, likely. I did a comparison on my own channel about 8-bit to 10 bit in standard profile - the comparison is at the 5:15 mark on the first video on my page talking about the Sony A7C. I would put up a link, but RU-vid would block this comment if I did. You will see a huge difference if you're shooting in Vlog or HLG like I do these days. When you shoot in these profiles, that extra colour information is essential (especially in Vlog). I like to shoot vlog and apply a LeemingLut for correction and without 10-bit, I could not do that.

@andersistbesser 3 года назад

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you for this valuable information.

@RockWILK Год назад

I know this is an old video, but I just saw it and so... I am with you, Yo. I just got an S5 after living with a Sony a6400 APS-C camera for the last few years, which I love, but the S5 is another level, BUT... I'm still keeping my a6400 for a few reasons. It's now staying on my gimbal because of the reliable autofocus, although I find the S5 autofocus pretty good, but it ain't Sony autofocus, but I'm really into anamorphic, and the S5 just has so much more to grow inside of, and so, I'm keeping both. I also have some great vintage lenses for the S5, along with the 20-60 and the 50mm f/1.8. I think I'm gonna get either the Panasonic 24mm f/1.8 for the S5, or the 16-35, and then, along with my vintage lenses and a couple of anamorphic lenses, and I can be done, but like you said, that's gonna take some time, and so for now, it's the S5 with two native lenses, plus my vintage lenses, and my trusty a6400 for autofocus and for when I just want a really light setup to run around with, although the S5 is certainly not too heavy, for sure. All of these cameras are amazing, it's really just a matter of what you need for what you do, and for a specific project as well. Great video, thanks for sharing. Keep making art!!

@danielmendoza20 3 года назад

Love your videos dude 🤙

@sofiapcna 3 года назад

ooooh these images look so good

@sirgigolo 3 года назад

Nice video Nigel. I look forward to you using your new S5. How does the auto-focus perform?

@cj64films 3 года назад

I feel like if you own all those MFT lenses it’s better to get a Pocket 4K or GH5 but that’s just me. I own the Pocket 4K and I’ve been shooting on a pair of vintage Takumars. The Super-Multi-Coated 50 & 24. I’m in the process of deciding which MFT Cine lenses I want to invest into. It’s between Meike and SLR Magic.

@PauloVaztek 3 года назад

Excellent video, lots of information, thanks. Big hug from Portugal!💪

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Obrigado Paulo!

@ShredBrosLTD 3 года назад

An autofocus test would’ve been good here too!

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

yeah that's a hot topic for sure, but I never use continuous autofocus, so whether it was good or bad didn't interest me too much

@Dar1usz 3 года назад

Theres old contrast AF so you can assume its an manual camera comparing to AF in A73.

@DeepteshLovesTECH 3 года назад

AF is not reliable and so it's out of consideration. Considering AF is becoming so much reliable with the Sony(s) and Canon(s), I don't see Panasonic surviving for long.

@freddoflintstono9321 3 года назад

@@DeepteshLovesTECH I found setting AF speed to -1 and AF sensitivity to -2 massively improves things, it's possible Panasonic should have chosen other defaults. The defaults, yes, they suck as it hunts. The aforementioned -1/-2(..-3) settings seem to coax it into behaving well, although I have not yet tested it on dynamic activities like sports because we're kinda short of those right now..

@attilaishere_barcelona7935 3 года назад

I think the S5 is still a budget option so keeping and using it wouldn’t change your unique voice. I won’t swap my GH5 for it but if I still had the G80, this would make a lot of sense. Probably with vintage lenses and a third party zoom you can keep the cost in the reasonable zone :)

@CalvinRy 3 года назад

Love this!! I’ve been looking into a new camera for my setup and this has been really insightful! I’m actually using a Panasonic HC-V770 right and it’s been pretty decent but it was my first camera and I’ve been thinking about upgrading,

@PixelSheep 3 года назад

Hey :) I've been following you for a couple years now and find myself binge watching all your old videos in the last few days - I'm just wondering - are you using a teleprompter for your a roll? :)

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Wow, I really appreciate that! and no I don't use a teleprompter, i just kinda speak off the cuff

@PhillipRPeck 3 года назад

I think if I were to go the Lumix full frame camera route, I would adapt to Canon EF since I have some good EF lenses and I wouldn't be losing out on video AF because... Panasonic

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Very true!

@SamEmilio2 3 года назад

I've been using the S1 with the MC-21 adapter for 1.5 years now. If you go into it with the expectation of having no reliance on AF with your EF glass then you'll totally be good to go! Before getting mine I knew not to expect C-AF, and the consensus on single shot focusing with EF lenses was that it worked "just fine", especially for photography. That's not true; it's really bad. The focus peaking is fantastic though, and primarily relying on manual focus with EF lenses is ultimately a great experience

@cj7073 3 года назад

Sorry to say this but what does panasonic do to AF

@crisrocchi2722 3 года назад

In my opinion, if you have all those beautiful micro 4/3 lenses, you'd better get a gh5. GH3 and GH5, great match

@AndyLSB 3 года назад

so the S5 is yours to keep ? really nice video Nigel ! I have a Lumix G9 and a GX85, but the S5 is definitely a camera I look forward to !

@baihu4u 3 года назад

Nice selection in cameras. I have the GH4 and GX85 currently. I had the awesome G9 also but sold it to get the S5 w/20-60. In terms of image quality and flexibility it really is on another level. No regrets. It's a really dope, powerful little camera. You're going to love it! The lens situation is a bit of an apprehensive consideration though.

@AndyLSB 3 года назад

@@baihu4u thanks for the input and congrats on the S5, I REALLY hope to get one, but who knows, Panasonic might release the GH6 and I might stick with M4/3

@baihu4u 3 года назад

@@AndyLSB I feel you. I'm pretty curious about their next m43 unicorn as well. Since I still have the GX85 I hung onto a few lenses and to also yield instant compatibility should the next Pana m43 flagship prove to be a next level 'must have' camera. We shall see. :-) 👌🏾

@AndyLSB 3 года назад

@@baihu4u lets hope it delivers buddy ! Cheers !

@TokyoGritandGrain 3 года назад

Man, I think you need to take the plunge. Yeah, you'll need time to build the lens library, and misc items, but in the end, you'll be glad you did. You never know, maybe your filmmaking skills will level up in a way you didn't expect. If you don't swing, you'll never know if you're going to hit a home run. Keep us posted.

@EddieBarksdale 3 года назад

I feel like I always forget you’re in the PNW, then I see a shot outside Vista House.

@JCContenidos 3 года назад

Loved it. that 10 bit is sooo tasty!!!!

@HGQjazz 3 года назад

I like your approach, man! 1. It's kinda silly to upgrade cameras EVERY time a new one comes out. 2. L mount lenses (options & expense) don't make it easy to commit to the S5. 3. Otherwise the camera itself has no real faults.

@powerforward1955 3 года назад

Hey Brother Nigel, I've been watching and enjoying your channel for several years. Your love affair with the GH3 is awesome. I'm strongly considering the GH4 and have a couple of questions: 1) If I record in 1080P on the GH4, would I need to change codec, etc to upload to RU-vid? 2) Are you aware of any challenges using it with an external monitor while recording? I looked at the G7, but need live HDMI feed to a monitor while recording. Thanks much.

@ChristopherRevon 2 года назад

I have a GH5. I would buy it for its low light and its still photography capabilities.

@SaptarshiiRoy 2 года назад

Excellent content!! Should I go with Sony A7C or Lumix S5??

@moncho33 3 года назад

I’ve been thinking about getting the S5 with the 24-105 f/4. I own a G7 which has become my main photo and video camera. I think it could be a great companion camera to the S5.

@thejacobbunn 3 года назад

Footage looked so nice. I need to give a different brand than Canon a shot! I've been using the 80D recently and liking it

@DeepteshLovesTECH 3 года назад

The Lumix will blow away anything from Canon below the R6 and R5, except for AF. So if you are dependent on the Dual Pixel AF of the 80D, the S5 will be a disappointment.

@thejacobbunn 3 года назад

@@DeepteshLovesTECH Huh good to know, luckily I don't use too much AF because I shot with a 60D for years so always relied on manual focus. What do you shoot on?

@bavideomaker29 3 года назад

The Panny f1.8 primes are a nice manageable size. But yeah, I had the Pro 24-70 f2.8 and that was a beast. It’s definitely an adjustment coming from MFT.

@joseagonzalez2973 2 года назад

Hey, good video. I just bought a lumix s5 but I don’t see the master pedestal or the SS gain operation on my menu in image quality. Why is that? Did I get a broken camera?

@imagenatura 3 года назад

I'm ditching FF and going to a gh2... figure I prefer a challenge.

@vipersrt30 3 года назад

about lenses, there is also the crop mode that is still better than the gh3 which will extend your zoom range of the 20-60 into 20-90 basically for video mode at least. its also a beast in low light and will not let you down even with the small aperture at 60mm at f5.6

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

yeah for sure, I like the apsc mode for autofocus when I need it cause it works much better than in full-frame. really stoked on that new sigma 28-70 f2.8 that just came out, might pick that up eventually!

@edjefferson9175 3 года назад

My only complaint about my former GH3 was no focus peaking. Still a good camera. Now may be a good time to move to GH5. Should be more of them on the used market from people switching to S5. I am on that fence choosing between a 10-25mm f/1.7 lens for my GH5 or switch to S5......

@victorwarner2734 2 года назад

switch to s5 great camera minus the auto focus and I don't think lens are that expensive but would be cheaper to just buy a new lens

@grifwr00 3 года назад

What do you suggest for adapting your FD lenses to the L mount? Love using my FD lenses on my GH5 (with speed booster). What is a good option for adapters for this? (Apologies if this has already been asked)

@JaymesMedia 3 года назад

I would like to see you try out an X-T4 and get your opinion on the camera and the film simulations. I think you may enjoy playing with that camera.

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

I’m low key thinking about an XT-3 in the future

@JaymesMedia 3 года назад

@@NigelBarros fantastic camera, I just sold mine because I purchased the X-T4 but I loved the x-T3. It reminded me from when I had the GH5

@rodvisionfilms 3 года назад

You talk about the 4k, color depth but when you mention the 120fps in 1080p nor in any other modes, you don't talk about the bitrate which makes an important difference at the end when it comes to image sharpness/details you were referring to. 120fps and above with such high compression somehow compromises the image quality at this stage... just like A7III shoots 1080p @120fps at 100Mbps, Panasonic should have done the same with the S5. Even though I'm keeping it and retired my good and old Gh4.

@PETERFLUFFIN 3 года назад

So if you mostly record your videos in 1080p, why you upscale your videos to 4k? Why do you just shoot 4k on the S5? I mean, you upload it in 4k later..

@suprize6296 3 года назад

I think, if I had the opportunity, I would use the S5 for like commercials and stuff. But I´d still use my G7 for Vlogging & Outdoor shoots with the Boys.

@sueme6926 3 года назад

Bro how do u put those vintage lens on the s5 do u use a dummy adapter.I am considering buying sigma fp and sigma mc21 adapter is kinda expensive and i dont wanna spend money on the adapter.

@c421t 3 года назад

Do you get a lot of vignette with this adapter? I tried an EF to L mount adapter and at 18mm and 55mm is when it was bad

@traviszuker1488 3 года назад

So would you be more likely to upgrade to the GH6 once Panasonic releases it? Assuming that it’s picture quality approaches the S5?

@RakibMfilms 3 года назад

Cool video I’m a lumix g7 user would love the newer models but I’m broke af

@ernestoxavier4769 2 года назад

How did you find the Autofocus reliability on the S5?

@sdhute 3 года назад

What converter are you using for that FD glass?

@gcprost 3 года назад

You get a fantastic image out of the GH3!

@projectslowliving 3 года назад

what did you put on the 12-35mm lens at 7:37 that's a neat tool for better focus adjustment

@HAPPYN 3 года назад

Amazing camera. I want IT!!!!!!!!

@marioikada6747 3 года назад

Canon fd 50mm and what adapter u use bro ?

@NikolasMovie 8 месяцев назад

Hi bro .. i have this camera but what settings you tell me for autofocus because soooo slow here

@dpc4548 3 года назад

For filmmaking, we just can't do full frame. It looks cheap. I'm sure the camera's fine, but the flexibility of m43 can't be beat... yet. I'd suggest going to the gh4 instead. You get 10bit, 4k, 96fps and it has no stabilisation. No downsides. Even so, that gh3 is still a fantastic camera that i'd be more than happy to work with.

@reptilespantoso 3 года назад

I can't find al the L-mount adapters. :-/ Which is a reason to hold back on buying this. Some are available. Not Konica AR, or Minolta, which I use.

@A1Bokeh 3 года назад

Been looking into the s5 lately. I have to say in terms of price it seems you get a lot more out of your lenses on the s5. Especially in terms of bokeh. Ya the m43 lenses are smaller but if you get into the vintage. Man. The s5 just makes a lot of sense. But you do get a lot of camera with things like the gh5 gh5s

@patrickcazer 3 года назад

should i buy a 4k camera? or shoot 1080 and upscale to 4k?

@RakibMfilms 3 года назад

How do you get that movie look with the gh3 damn

@reflexfilms 3 года назад

i wish Panasonic had sent you the f2.8 24-70 and 70-200 pro lenses - that is wher ethe magic happens my friend. That 20-60 kit lens gives you full frame lite or GH5 and a half. Its the synergy between the pro lenses and the s5 that really makes this combo sing. (based on my 3 months working with my S5 lens combo) - at the end of the day you can still tell a great story with the GH5 though.

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

For sure, the sigma 28-70 2.8 that was just released I think will be the lens to get, hopefully I’ll get my hands on it soon! But I still like the compact size and performance of the micro 4/3 system

@reflexfilms 3 года назад

@@NigelBarros me too! i use both- gh5 for its zoom reach (100-300) and wide angle on gimbal- my s5 becomes interview and anything between 24-200 when i want to get fancy.

@ondrejjanoska660 3 года назад

Do you have to send it back to panasonic?

@shribalaji1718 3 года назад

What adaptor you used while using fd lens

@ariruishalme4403 3 года назад

Have to say good lights are bigger difference than camera. Your gh3 looks awsome.. if gh6 will ever come.. it has to have ibis+ dual iso ... Af can't believe they could get it any better if they stick with the original tecnology

@afafilms7990 3 года назад

what camera do you use to make this video ? i think much better

@JohnOsCreations 3 года назад

How do you find the autofocus?

@dabswho 3 года назад

What’s your main recording camera?

@photogenic2010 3 года назад

You can borrow my Gh5, shoot 4k 10 bit using lumix Oly 25mm f1.2, I bet it would look better than the S5 with the kit lens, or the $50 cheapo :-)

@KnivesMonroe 3 года назад

Is he going to retire the GH3? No. Does he have valid reasons to not retire the GH3? Yes. Are his videos incredible? Absolutely. If it aint broke....

@LouG2403 3 года назад

you could switch to olympus cameras and still can use the M43 lenses

@eduardocardona6608 3 года назад

The S5 have 1080p 10 bit 422?

@9adriano21 3 года назад

I think you just made yourself a case to get a GH5 o GH5s, those are basically MFT S5s, in terms of the 10bit and better DR

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

I’ve used the GH5 a lot on different jobs, great camera, but since I own an S5 now I will probably move on to full frame once the L mount lenses go down in price. Until then my Gh3 will still do the job ✌🏼

@randykamindo4795 3 года назад

can you link the fd lenses and adapter

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Just updated the description with a link!

@randykamindo4795 3 года назад

@@NigelBarros thanks I've been starving for lenses , I'm gonna pick up a 50mm and a 70-210 f4

@LucaBono.Studio 3 года назад

@@randykamindo4795 that's a killer combination!

@dwanelbarman734 2 года назад

how is for stills?

@blendering3D 3 года назад

Why not go for the GH5? It's much newer, it has awesome video features, and it's a better value camera in the MFT system

@DeepteshLovesTECH 3 года назад

Sell everything and get the XT-4.

@shanemitchellspencer 3 года назад

Not as big of a difference as you would expect. I'm not sure what the conclusion I should draw from that is - either Full Frame as largely over hyped or Panasonic just makes dank ass M43 cameras. Truth be told I've always enjoyed your videos for not focusing on the latest and greatest camera tech and getting by with technique and cheaper alternatives. You can drown in the high-tech, high budget recommendations from other vids.

@DeepteshLovesTECH 3 года назад

When nigel switches to the GH3, it's a drastically worse look, so much color artifacts and smeared details on his face,even visible through RU-vid compression.

@borderlands6606 3 года назад

Not a big difference because Nigel shot at 1080p. As he said, if you compare the GH3 and the S5 at maximum resolution and bit rate, there is no comparison. I understand his point about sticking with the lens format you have, but if you shot the S5 with some well chosen manual lenses, full frame makes technical and financial sense.

@zhezpac 3 года назад

great camera, but something weird is going on with a red channel though

@dennisdebbarma1062 3 года назад

Bro can u tell how fast is the auto focus of s5.

@Aviciiz 3 года назад

For photos it's very good, for video's it's okay as long as you are using Pana lenses

@cezar_visual_artist Год назад

Juat switch to the S5 already:))))

@stanleystevens6278 3 года назад

Why are you holding out on the S5? It has your name ALL over it.

@andersistbesser 3 года назад

S5 image maybe kills your gh3 but with a gh5 it would be a much different story.

@Fodaydontplay 3 года назад

The s5 is good but my gh5 is still good. I dont have the budget for the L lens

@davidsubba4432 3 года назад

Guess viewer! Congrates but I like Sony a7iii anyways

@biawa849 3 года назад

The wild tiger footages of OUR PLANET were shot by GH3

@thegnarly7674 3 года назад

4k vid and who dat..Pedro Barros?

@orshanti 3 года назад

id swich if i were you !

@gcprost 3 года назад

Don't sell your GH3. I sold my GH3 and my GH4. Now I have two GH5's but doing multicam shoots I wish I had more angles.

@harsha6183 3 года назад

Wish u had talked about the autofocus, otherwise everything is well known already

@NigelBarros 3 года назад

Me ruined this in another comment but I don’t use autofocus so it was of no interest to me, if you want to know, face tracking works decent in APSC mode but that’s about the only usable combo I’ve had luck with. Again I’ve been without autofocus basically for my entire career so it wasn’t a huge deal to me