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The Paradox of Wokeness 

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It's not what you think!
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@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth 4 месяца назад
"Stay woke" originally meant the same thing as "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance", but said in a way that "rose above the level of plain narration"
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 4 месяца назад
Exactly this comment. Don’t let American mass media change important words. Stay woke!
@dontcomply3976
@dontcomply3976 4 месяца назад
​​@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245LOL mass media, you mean the plebs, right?
@jakethegreatest473
@jakethegreatest473 3 месяца назад
​@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245but don't be fake woke.....
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 3 месяца назад
It's not just American media. The get woke, go broke comment came out of the result of feminist buying businesses and running them on feminist principles. This included giving intentionally bad service to men at their restaurants, refusal to order products for men at their comic stores, and eventually attacking male customers of their razor products, and making a major Hollywood Blockbuster where the females were closed in loose-fitting costumes and every man in the movie was both weak and bad. This version of woke has a high degree of misandry. This is different than other uses of the term.
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 2 месяца назад
ahhh today more than ever people have unfortunately forgotten that quote. we in the west take our freedom for granted way too much.
@TheJoYo
@TheJoYo 3 месяца назад
I'm old enough to remember when "stay woke" means "stay vigilant". Literally no different than "stay safe out there".
@ScoobySnacksYum
@ScoobySnacksYum Месяц назад
Weird how something that was specific for African Americans is now demonized by White Supremacy Inc.
@mikeoveli1028
@mikeoveli1028 8 дней назад
TheJoyo From the left the term has not changed. The problem is the right began to use the term for anything that they didn't like.
@NJ-wb1cz
@NJ-wb1cz 5 дней назад
Woke meant aware, not really vigilant. Aware of your own truth as opposed to adopting the mindsets what the society or media or other social classes are constructing for you. The opposite of "woke" is "being gaslit"
@PROTVGONIST
@PROTVGONIST 21 час назад
@@NJ-wb1cz Precisely. And “woke” isn’t even meant to align with a particular philosophy or ideals. It is a way of being - an awareness that’s meant to help us survive.
@Maren617
@Maren617 4 месяца назад
I’d love a video on the euphemism treadmill, mostly because it’s SUCH a pain for us foreigners. We learn words and naively use them, only to discover we’ve just unintentionally been very insulting and worthy of being cancelled. The new correct words are then slowly introduced into learning materials, but have already become the new insults by the time foreigners innocently learn them by heart.
@journeyfortwo5211
@journeyfortwo5211 4 месяца назад
Don't bother trying to keep up
@almishti
@almishti 4 месяца назад
As an American who lived a decade in UK and now reaches English in north Africa, I can assure this problem is more common with Americans. Try to talk more with British or Commonwealth speakers, it's just less fraught. 😅
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger 4 месяца назад
I despise how insistent my online American peers are on teaching foreigners slang and cusses from nivhe subcultures and getting them to use the words. I don't understand the enjoyment they get, but even moreso it places the foreigner in an awkward state of trying to use these unfamiliar words in appropriate contexts. The result of their use is only to (A) single the user out either as (i) a member of the subculture (which may not be approved of by the wider culture or by more elitist types-like if, for example, the word makes you sound "uneducated" or "radical") OR (ii) an obvious _pretender_ of the subculture (which ranges from cute to embarrassing to insulting), and (B) attach the foreigner's understanding of the English language to slang, i.e. the VERY CLASS OF WORDS most likely to shift in meaning and in what they connote about the user. It guarantees that the non-native speaker is being introduced to words most certain to humiliate them, confuse them, and become useless to them in the near-future.
@cashnelson2306
@cashnelson2306 4 месяца назад
@@RickJaeger did you comment on the wrong reply? How is that relevant to what OP said? That said, do you have an example of what you’re talking about?
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger 4 месяца назад
@@cashnelson2306 it's pretty obvious how it is relevant. It's not a response _to_ OP, if that's your stumbling block.
@dontcomply3976
@dontcomply3976 4 месяца назад
The reason woke took off as an epithet was because was a replacement for the overly verbose 'politically correct'
@josephmother2659
@josephmother2659 3 месяца назад
Yeah that’s what I don’t get because they don’t mean the same thing at all and are not interchangeable. Political “correctness” is not woke or anti-woke, it’s political correctness.
@dontcomply3976
@dontcomply3976 3 месяца назад
@josephmother2659 I agree it's not exactly the same but pretty close. And the think the difference is mostly due to how we think of a woke person today as opposed to a politically correct person 20, 30, 40 years ago. Can't quite put my finger on it, but perhaps the woke are true believers, and the politically correct are more so the commissars.
@rodderzjay358
@rodderzjay358 Месяц назад
I don't believe its close to political correctness. The word has been around for decades and its more about knowledge of yourself and systems because once you are aware of these things you can navigate society better and not get taken for a token. The word has completely been flipped around
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 Месяц назад
@@rodderzjay358 The people shouting down "woke" people don't want people to be aware of injustice in society. It perfectly suits their agenda to dilute the real meaning.
@zivaughn
@zivaughn Месяц назад
The term “stay woke” was just used in a song called “Scottsboro Boys” in 1938 meaning to stay vigilant/aware of racial injustice. Black people used the term “woke” from that point until conservatives co-opted it and claimed it meant everything but what it actually meant. So, no, it does not mean to be politically correct. It means be aware of societal practices and systems that can cause you harm.
@lynettereid1345
@lynettereid1345 4 месяца назад
Another vote for the complexities of mood and tense in African American English
@bearman_1826
@bearman_1826 3 месяца назад
On jah.
@lesbian-samurai
@lesbian-samurai Месяц назад
It happened!
@jeffreygob617
@jeffreygob617 4 месяца назад
LANGUAGE JONES YOU KILLED THAT GUITAR GOOD SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
Thank you! I’ve been thinking about adding another channel for music
@hurkagyurka121
@hurkagyurka121 4 месяца назад
There's no need! It's some groundbreaking cooking right here that you use music to convey linguistic concepts. Imo, it should become regular that you storytell by music. Afterall, music is often times using language to draw up stuff.@@languagejones6784
@JerPlaysGuitar21
@JerPlaysGuitar21 4 месяца назад
As a guitarist for my high school's jazz band, this is a welcome surprise 😅 I'll have to take notes on your improv approach, 'cause I have a solo in our next concert that I'm NOT prepared for. Anyways, awesome playing 🫡
@TotoDG
@TotoDG 4 месяца назад
@@languagejones6784. Please do! Having a linguistics channel _and_ a music channel would make you so cool!
@EchoLog
@EchoLog 3 месяца назад
🎸Lickage Jones 🥴
@xilefm-4517
@xilefm-4517 4 месяца назад
Woke as a word seems to have semantically bleached of any specific meaning in most contexts it's used. When I encounter it, it's usually an extremely vague pejorative, like how one time I saw someone one refer to a passenger train as woke.
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 4 месяца назад
Exactly what I was going to say. So many different and seemingly unrelated things get described as "woke", it's just a generic pejorative used to described whatever the right-wing media is complaining about onthe day.
@AndrewKay
@AndrewKay 4 месяца назад
It's become a general-purpose word useful for criticising anyone who cares about anything, without having to justify (to that person, or to the speaker themselves) what's wrong with that.
@ladybluelotus
@ladybluelotus 4 месяца назад
😂 That's utterly ridiculous. A train 😂
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 4 месяца назад
thats just a routine strategy for the far right. They've done it with critical race theory, groomer, woke, and are now doing it with DEI. They are words that used to have commonly understood and useful definitions, but the far right have done their best to strip them of any consistent or even comprehensible definitions in the public sphere and just turned them into buzz words for vague all-pervading fear of change and difference that allow them to condemn people and organisations and objects and concepts as being somehow morally dangerous without having to identify any specific harm. They are now words engineered to be thought ending clichés. Bypassing the logical brain and causing a purely emotional reaction based on media conditioning. After all, if words dont have definitions, if they don't make logical sense, then they can't be countered with logical argument or reason. And the far right always do best playing of visceral emotions. So if they can take the debate out of the realms of reason all together and into a mess of words that only really represent undefinable fear and anger then those arguing with reason and facts end up punching smoke
@JEQvideos
@JEQvideos 4 месяца назад
The Republican controlled House of Representatives had an investigation into wokeness and one of the things they identified as woke was working remotely from home. Woke just means anything about the political left or anything that the left likes or is concerned with. If they are pressed on the issue, as in court cases where someone has to testify what it means, they basically default to CRT.
@user-ld9fi1xd2v
@user-ld9fi1xd2v 4 месяца назад
African American English is an interesting topic to explore.
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
I’ll definitely have more on it. There’s lots of misinformation out there, even if it’s unintentional and well-meaning
@mayanightstar
@mayanightstar 4 месяца назад
yes hi where can i learn more I want AAE to be my next big youtube education rabbit hole
@phillipanselmo8540
@phillipanselmo8540 4 месяца назад
african american _vernacular_ english
@phillipanselmo8540
@phillipanselmo8540 4 месяца назад
​@@mayanightstarxidnaf has a pretty good introductory video to it
@VolkColopatrion
@VolkColopatrion 4 месяца назад
Yeah it's an effort to be respectful But ultimately pathological Isis like colored person and person of color it's the same crap
@kayodesalandy
@kayodesalandy Месяц назад
Found your channel through your video on the complexity of Black English! The people wanted it and you delivered my friend. I'm a fan!
@KevinAbroad
@KevinAbroad 4 месяца назад
"Words mean what people make them mean" So well put lol
@scaredyfish
@scaredyfish 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately, this can be weaponised to render once useful and descriptive words useless and vague.
@Gobear1
@Gobear1 4 месяца назад
When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.
@h4724-q6j
@h4724-q6j 4 месяца назад
@@scaredyfish Nothing's being "weaponised", that just happens sometimes. I also wouldn't say "useless"; if they were useless people wouldn't be using them. Words adopt different uses that you may not recognise at first.
@scaredyfish
@scaredyfish 4 месяца назад
@@h4724-q6j It does just happen sometimes, but sometimes bad actors deliberately misrepresent current usage in order to change it. Sure, the word is still useful, but only for propaganda purposes, rather than its original intent.
@h4724-q6j
@h4724-q6j 4 месяца назад
@@scaredyfish I really don't think we're running out of words.
@magpielark
@magpielark 4 месяца назад
As an Australian, AAE trickles into language even here. Seeing white people here blatantly use AAE-derived slang, I can't help but cringe a little. It's hard to compare, but I feel like the meaning of some of the words/phrases has drifted even further from the original meanings en route across the Pacific. I've recently been making an effort to stop using AAE-derived slang because I'm neither African nor American. In one sense, I feel like I'm using words that don't 'belong' to me culturally, and in another sense, I feel like I'm letting American culture and language completely dominate my own. I don't remember AAE-derived slang being so prevalent in Australia or so ubiquitous online maybe 15-20 years ago, but maybe I was just too young to notice. I guess it's good that the online Anglosphere isn't just dictated by nerdy white guys, but maybe it's all just aesthetics and it's still just as white as it always was.
@itoibo4208
@itoibo4208 25 дней назад
Oh, do you come from the land down under? In that case, to honor your language, I will never again say shrimp on the "barby".
@breakfreak3181
@breakfreak3181 11 дней назад
Well, America has been the dominant cultural force in the Anglosphere for almost 100 years now, and black people in America have had a huge (disproportionate) influence on American popular culture, so it's no surprise that you would hear Americanisms over in Oz, and by extension, the use of AAE terms (in particular amongst younger Australians, because popular culture is driven by the young). Let's also not forget that the internet, and it's ubiquity in everyday life, means that worldwide 'cultural exchange' is now instant.
@Foshiisland
@Foshiisland 10 дней назад
I wouldn’t stress about it - language like life is all about sharing culture. That’s why I don’t hesitate when I want to “take a selfie,” “chuck a u-ey,” or tell some that there are “no worries” as an American.
@gooseboy4025
@gooseboy4025 10 дней назад
Or we can just stop being racist about languages, and people for that matter. Language can be used very creatively, sometimes for good, sometimes for bad. And just as it's good that the online anglosphere isn't just dictated by so-called 'nerdy white guys', it's also good that it isn't dictated by 'nerdy black guys' too. We are all beneficiary to it, our vocabularies and cultures grow for the better. What must be fought against at all costs are those who wish to gatekeep or restrict languages. Stupid comments like "you are not so you can't say ", by that virtue the accusing party should also refrain from using words from the accused culture. Either we all mix and celebrate language, or nobody should. No race deserves special privilege over the other
@uranusneptun5239
@uranusneptun5239 6 дней назад
I live in GERMANY! and I could say the same... You don't even know the cringe levels of people using those AAE words mixed with German, while being a native German speaker. But the worst was a couple of weeks ago when in a car park I heard these loud teenagers (who all were "black") call themselves the N-word in every sentence! My first reaction was being "shook" and my thought was "OMG that's so racist". I know it might sound weird but for German teenagers even if they're "black" it doesn't feel alright or natural to say that word. Especially because the English form is the worse German form of 2 and sounds very pejorative. And I don't think it's appropriate to use it even for them. They are not culturally attached directly to the origin of this becoming a slang word. They're not African American and most likely also not the descendants of slaves. They're just Germans with an African background. Anything else would be racist...
@tennesseedarby5319
@tennesseedarby5319 4 месяца назад
I would totally love to see a video exploring the complexities of African American English. I just love it because it feels both foreign and familiar at the same time!
@theshrew2804
@theshrew2804 4 месяца назад
A few videos ago I recall you mentioned something about language learning with ADHD and/or autism. I’d love to hear what research or other such resources exist covering the topic.
@kpopgrrl
@kpopgrrl 4 месяца назад
I second this
@misstalulah9063
@misstalulah9063 4 месяца назад
I third it. Pur-leeeeeaaaase!!
@Xubuntu47
@Xubuntu47 Месяц назад
Yes, yes, yes. I am literally living this right now with my Japanese studies. It is so frustratingly slow. Four years on, and anime is still mostly unintelligible (though it now sounds like language rather than gibberish). I speak another language muuuuch better; I was immersed in it for a few years in my 20's and 30's. My Japanese sucks by comparison.
@emile_fa
@emile_fa Месяц назад
Please
@FinMarx-iu7jz
@FinMarx-iu7jz 6 дней назад
I fourth this, HUZZAH!
@endrawes0
@endrawes0 4 месяца назад
You can play music at the end of every video. That's cool
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
But I played everything I know Just kidding. I like the idea. I was toying with making another channel
@ladybluelotus
@ladybluelotus 4 месяца назад
Agreed!
@garystcroix2868
@garystcroix2868 3 месяца назад
yep, just do it ;-)
@zerotoanime3953
@zerotoanime3953 4 месяца назад
Totally agree as a black man. Been saying this for the longest.
@timy9197
@timy9197 Месяц назад
Same
@PuzzleQodec
@PuzzleQodec 2 дня назад
Yeah, I wouldn't have known if it weren't for this video. I feel a little more enlightened today. (Dutch guy here.)
@FeliciaFollum
@FeliciaFollum 4 месяца назад
I made a video on this a while back!!! It's been so frustrating literally being WOKE is what kept my biological father from being murdered by the KKK before he was. Being woke is how he stayed alive 🤦🏽‍♀️ so frustrating!!! And I'd love to see the video on how Black English has more tenses 😁😊🖤
@FeliciaFollum
@FeliciaFollum 4 месяца назад
Yesss!!! I'm so over white people telling me what woke means, like y'all have no freaking idea.... And I loved this entire video !
@ErikWithBrain
@ErikWithBrain 3 месяца назад
Reminds me of the show Lovecraft Country where one of the characters creates a safe travel guide for Black people in early 20th century US. Like literally being woke and aware was a lifeline.
@jemiller226
@jemiller226 Месяц назад
@@ErikWithBrain That travel guide was based on a real thing, "The Negro Motorist Green Book".
@ErikWithBrain
@ErikWithBrain Месяц назад
@@jemiller226 Thanks for that reference.
@chlorineismyperfume
@chlorineismyperfume 4 дня назад
​@FeliciaFollum I think it's more of an age thing than just the recent change in direction (to derogatory) for the meaning of woke. We in Australia in the 90s were definitely using woke to mean "maintain awareness" and it was an encouragement. What we've seen the last several years is such bollocks, it hasn't got much meaning and has lost all positivity. I hate it. @felicia damn, sorry that happened to your dad. .living in fear is horrible. The world needs to bring back that strong meaning!
@semanticman
@semanticman 4 месяца назад
Yes please a video about the specifics of how AAE articulates nuance not explicit in classroom American English! I’m just a humble pop linguist, but I’ve been enamored of this topic since I was assigned McWhorter’s Word on the Street in 2001.
@sjenkins1057
@sjenkins1057 4 месяца назад
More videos on the grammar of AAE would be great. Back in the 80s I saw a lot of the same arguments about ASL, and is it really a language of in its own right with all of the sophistication that implies (I believe yes), as opposed to just signed English; this seems very analogous to AAE being called just slang or wordplay.
@L0VTX_H8CA
@L0VTX_H8CA 4 месяца назад
*AAVE
@fritzlang3472
@fritzlang3472 4 месяца назад
I would be very interested in an overview of ASL and how it is similar or differs from spoken English. It is, after all, a mother tongue for a lot of people, and it seems to sit in a sideways position to "standard" English. Are there parallels to AAVE?
@Colyde25
@Colyde25 4 месяца назад
@@fritzlang3472what kind of parallels do you suggest? I think there could be many as both groups were/are ostracized by greater society due to the way they express their thoughts through language. The first parallel I thought of based off of your curiosity was both of the languages are developed by a minority group who developed their own dialect out of greater society not making it easy/impossible to integrate with the majority so a coloquial language for the inner group to speak was born. This mainly being out of cultural context was developed. Although where the two separate is that ASL is standardized a bit as AAVE is not, as it’s a dialect than a separate language per signing (requires standardization for letters/actions to be interpreted) Could this be a parallel you would find applicable?
@99temporal
@99temporal 4 месяца назад
​@@fritzlang3472 ASL is, mostly, not at all related to spoken English... Specially since ASL came from the LSF(french sign language) while being completely different from British sign language
@GlitteryGlitz
@GlitteryGlitz 4 месяца назад
So ASL is a different language than English whereas AAVE is a sociolect of English; a sociolect being a dialect by social barriers rather than geographical ones
@neiotik
@neiotik 4 месяца назад
I wish I didn't have the first response I did when I saw the video but I'm glad I pushed past the initial heart sinking exhaustion from seeing those four letters on the internet because I trust you to pull something worthwhile out of the mire.
@thekendemetrishow
@thekendemetrishow Месяц назад
YOOOOOO your producer played drums at my church in the 90s and was my little brothers first teacher. Great dude I’m about to text the last number I have for him…
@seadawg93
@seadawg93 4 месяца назад
YES! I would LOVE a video on AAVE being more complex than classroom English!
@nebula3271
@nebula3271 Месяц назад
Your vidoes have taught me that I shouldn't try to borrow AAE terms I hear in music etc. I appreciate that!
@GordonKindlmann
@GordonKindlmann 4 месяца назад
If only all academic youtubers could just bust out musical treats like that. Nice!
@personbear
@personbear 4 месяца назад
It reminded me of Cody Johnston's video about how Trump was tryïng to kill the postal service (USPS), which he ended by playing "Such Great Heights" on... I think 'twas uke?
@spitflamez
@spitflamez Месяц назад
When I saw the MAGA people wearing shirts saying “Awake not Woke” I was like whaaaaaaaaat? Then I hear them say all kind of stuff that is far from woke as being woke, I figured it was a new scapegoat term.
@joemielcarek589
@joemielcarek589 6 дней назад
🥴Durrrr duh MAGAs
@donatist59
@donatist59 5 дней назад
"Awake" appeals to Trumpist nostalgia for "Deutschland Erwache!"
@chlorineismyperfume
@chlorineismyperfume 4 дня назад
I see it as any group now use it to describe the in-group "awareness" or, if you want to get really snarky, their "talking points" for whatever cause they're passionate about, i.e. climate activists use it, flat-earth science deniers love telling people to "wake up" and that they're "awake" (maybe no one wants to use "woke" anymore 😂), and of course the political and social crusaders are woke AF. Scapegoat term sounds about right!
@M4TCH3SM4L0N3
@M4TCH3SM4L0N3 4 месяца назад
I REALLY want you to tackle the history of the word "based," which originated with AAE and was adapted by a musician, adopted by the alt-right online (there's a WHOLE book about incels, hip-hop, and appropriating Black culture by the people who were sucked into the alt-right movement by way of Gamergate waiting to be written), and recently disseminated gradually across internet subcultures over time by proximity to recruiting efforts.
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
I think you’re right, both about that book and about the topic of “based.” I’ll add it to my list of videos to make!
@Anerisian
@Anerisian 4 месяца назад
A bit of a hyped up internet fairytale. Repeated over and over. What actually happened was, that early adopters of social media were mostly from the “social justice” subculture. How do we know? Just look up know your meme, and see the precursor trend called “social justice blogging”. The hyper-hostile style was probably a result of the novel design social media, and the “reblog” function. We can also draw from research that shows a high correlation to mental illness. As history wanted it, this subculture became dominant over night with the sudden relevance of social media. Now this bizarro American identity “intersectionality” ideology was shoved into the mainstream and became hegemonial as large numbers of ordinary people poured online into the new social media landscape, and traditional media dissolved. Gamers were another, ie. rival, online youth subculture. More international, more male. The conflict of “gamergate” is largely a subculture clash with the previously mentioned faction. People will pretend it is about one thing or another, but that’s just narrative. In reality, the conflict was but a turf war. The charge happened to be led by “games journalists” allegededly because of “sexism” etc. Sarkeesian was one last grasping of straws of relevance, maintained with clickbait trolling and by deliberately engaging with subsections of trolled gamers. Just look the facts. Games journalism became obsolete. Digitial downloads, steam and above all Let’s Plays took it all away from games journalists. PewDiePie, a swedish gamer, suddenly was the biggest name on RU-vid. That’s no accident. It also shows the polarisation. While the American intersectionality bullies took over social media, some corners remained “old imternet”, including RU-vid. There is lastly a concurrent trend. When all this happened, and everyone - even your old aunt - went online, also the American Right went online and they astroturfed a lot of stuff, or propped up many that where simply pissed off by the “intersectionality” faction. You can see traces of “unite the right” in the way the corner around Dave Rubin was flooded with money and trying to catch disoriented younger viewers.
@Nikola_M
@Nikola_M 4 месяца назад
@@Anerisian Touch grass. I mean take some time off the internet to think about what you said. Does it really make sense? Also, you should explain what you mean by "intersectionality" as that isn't a word that is known outside your circle.
@cashnelson2306
@cashnelson2306 4 месяца назад
⁠@@Anerisiani will never get those thirty seconds back😢
@zacharybosley1935
@zacharybosley1935 4 месяца назад
Hoh boy, that was a landmine
@swayze_mane
@swayze_mane Месяц назад
this reminds me of the time this random lady i passed on the street corrected my De La Soul t shirt "no it's stakes ARE high"
@idontwantahandlethough
@idontwantahandlethough Месяц назад
that's funny as hell
@RedScareClair
@RedScareClair Месяц назад
​@@idontwantahandlethoughand if we're honest...a little annoying... But mostly funny 🤣🤣
@ghostofmybrain
@ghostofmybrain 4 месяца назад
language jones and geoff lindsey on the same day???
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
Oooh I gotta go see what he did! I love his stuff
@boomboy4102
@boomboy4102 4 месяца назад
I would absolutely be interested in a video explainer on why African-American English grammar, especially around tense, aspect and mood on verbs, is more complex and sophisticated (yes, I said it) than standard class room English.
@mjb7015
@mjb7015 4 месяца назад
I would also love that, as well as an extension comparing the TAM of AAVE with that of (other?) English-based creoles, like Australian Kriol, Jamaican Patois, Tok Pisin, and so on. I find they seem to have surface-level similarities to AAVE, but haven't been able to explore further.
@mjb7015
@mjb7015 4 месяца назад
@FreePigeon I can't claim to speak for languagejones, but I don't think he'd appreciate that kind of Anglocentric racism here.
@KateGladstone
@KateGladstone 4 месяца назад
@FreePigeonIf you mustn’t say or write the reason, may you link to it?
@carlbrooks2612
@carlbrooks2612 4 месяца назад
The primary ingredients in the development of American English were largely other types of English. AAVE has direct influence from these same dialects but also African and Creole languages as well as a stronger French/Spanish influence. My guess is that drawing from a more diverse set of languages = greater understanding of the fluidity and sophistication of conversation.
@iluomobravo
@iluomobravo 4 месяца назад
It is most definitely less sophisticated. If it were more sophisticated, it would not require constant clarification tags like “you feel me?”, “you know what I’m saying?”
@Multi1
@Multi1 3 месяца назад
How I define woke as that you are extremely self-aware on how the world works (and therefore how terrible it is), and or, how to change the world for the better.
@yondaime500
@yondaime500 4 месяца назад
My Little Pony used the word "woke" in the 2018 episode Fake It 'Til You Make It. They were parodying someone who uses it to mean something vaguely positive without really knowing what it means. I doubt they would do the same today.
@johnnzboy
@johnnzboy 4 месяца назад
"Baby can't be woke cos she been shook." Deliciously dark :) Superb video, came for the linguistics but stayed for the admirably woke sentiments and the sweet sweet music at the end. Bravo!
@Seamussor
@Seamussor 4 месяца назад
I was not expecting that statement here, but I cackled maniacally as soon as I heard it.
@cwash08
@cwash08 4 месяца назад
I realize that this is a language channel and I'll try not to bring too much of my political thoughts into this. You asked what the viewers think. I'll just say that as a black person, I feel a lot of annoyance. With that specific word, it is turned into pejorative, but I feel more politics surrounding it is at play than the singular word. I do find the topic of English dialects interesting, as someone who speaks English. Actually, the topic of dialects as a whole interests me. I have heard of the word "dialect" but never gave much thought of what it means until I started studying language. I study Japanese, and the topic of dialects for that language gets brought up in the Japanese learning community with discussions about pitch accent or different words used by people from different regions of Japan.
@willful759
@willful759 4 месяца назад
At this point I really should grab a bottle before watching any of your videos, also +1 on that AAE grammar video!
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
Shots shots shots
@DrustZapat
@DrustZapat 4 месяца назад
Another vote for the AAE concept you mentioned as its own video. Also, this video was a pleasant surprise from start to finish. Thanks!
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
Thank you! I’m glad you liked it
@Neptoid
@Neptoid Месяц назад
I remember when woke people were called social justice warriors (SJWs)
@IndomitableAde
@IndomitableAde 23 дня назад
Too many syllables 😂.
@ProfessorLion9576
@ProfessorLion9576 4 месяца назад
Enjoyed your video and the Jones Jams
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
JONES JAMS! 😂
@krisdabrowski5420
@krisdabrowski5420 2 месяца назад
An analogous situation for comparison, is English loanwords in Japanese, where the loanword takes on its own meaning related but distinct from the original. For example, "Naive" in Japanese loanwords means "Emotionally sensitive" and does not have any of the connotations of "Sheltered, inexperienced, idealistic, gullible" in English.
@igortirkajla8042
@igortirkajla8042 23 дня назад
Or any word stemming from ancient Greek or Latin - many of them have deviated (not so) slightly from its original meaning. Somewhat funny example for me is the word that in North-Macedonian means fruit and in Russian means vegetable, and they are pronounced almost identically. What I want to say, this happens all the time and in all languages.
@Artemis583
@Artemis583 Месяц назад
Ok I just watched your later video on AAE being more complex than SAE and need to confirm that yes the sense of loss you noted here is so real. It's nice to see someone who gets it explaining to everyone else. Looking forward to your book.
@RobCooper-Bachatador
@RobCooper-Bachatador Месяц назад
I've always considered Woke to have suffered a classic case of cultural appropriation, another set of words that have lost their original idea, sadly due to overuse as much as kickback. So I agree with this.
@lindenstromberg6859
@lindenstromberg6859 3 месяца назад
In other words, a lot of the criticism of "wokeness" is criticism of straw men.
@LambentIchor
@LambentIchor 4 месяца назад
Interesting that 'shook' came up, because it is a feature of Hiberno-Irish. The number of matches between Hiberno-Irish and the English of the African diaspora in the US and Caribbean Islands is always interesting to me as an Irish person. How much is due to contact and how much is a kind of parallel evolution.
@Thebluebridgetroll
@Thebluebridgetroll 4 месяца назад
Many, many Overseers (so paid white employees of plantation owners) in the Anglo sphere were Irish, Scottish, or of Irish or Scottish descent. Purely a result of Social class and economics, mind-the Irish immigrants to the South and the Caribbean sinply didn't have the cash to run a plantation or own slaves-so most of the day to day english enslaved persons came into contact came off the lips of Irish or Scottish (and other, lower class British) people, and so reflect some of those features
@LambentIchor
@LambentIchor 4 месяца назад
@@Thebluebridgetroll The British began sending Irish people to the Caribbean as far back as the early 15th century under Charles I, though thousands were send there during Cromwell's time. Then when you add in all the indentured servants who left Ireland. So I know about that. But that goes back a long time, and it seems unlikely that all of those matches were preserved over hundreds of years, though some certainly might.
@getsugaallen6612
@getsugaallen6612 29 дней назад
It's a whole book called Whence The Irish Of Jamaica
@getsugaallen6612
@getsugaallen6612 29 дней назад
You might agree or disagree with it but you're not the first to notice this
@Alltagundso
@Alltagundso Месяц назад
The word socialism is another example of a political term used in a completely wrong way, at least in the USA.
@oliversissonphone6143
@oliversissonphone6143 7 дней назад
What do you see as the original meaning and what is the current meaning in the US?
@donatist59
@donatist59 4 дня назад
Bernie calls himself a socialist and he's not a socialist. But that's not half as bad as righties who somehow imagine communism, liberalism, socialism, fascism, and majority rule are all exactly the same thing.
@germpore
@germpore День назад
@@oliversissonphone6143 The idea that anything other than the most pure form of unregulated free-market capitalism is 'socialism' is pretty off-base, but I definitely see it being used that way. Calling Canada 'socialist' for having national medical care, for example.
@hermitthefrog8951
@hermitthefrog8951 4 месяца назад
"Shook... not stirred." - Jim Connection, agent 700
@meridien52681
@meridien52681 3 месяца назад
Sure, let's hear your take on African American English. I'm intrigued. I'm a 71 year old Black woman who's heard her share of scholarly dissections of it. Should be interesting for me and a whole lot of enlightening for viewers of the majority culture. Thanks.
@RaW_Chaos
@RaW_Chaos 25 дней назад
post video what are your thoughts?
@MatheusLegenda
@MatheusLegenda 4 месяца назад
I am interested in the talk on the complexities of AAVE. Another vote for it.
@mck20012
@mck20012 Месяц назад
I’m glad to have found this page and yes the African American language is complex. Sometimes it’s about where you are at the moment, who’s being spoken too and the mindset at that particular time. Also it can change in an instant depending on the situation. This coming from a black man.
@mjp121
@mjp121 4 месяца назад
Went into this wary of twisted politics, happily surprised at the nuanced and informed breakdown
@DirtBlockGames
@DirtBlockGames 4 месяца назад
I’d love a video on the complexity of AAE! I think it would generate a lot of engagement too
@jeremiahwindsor6114
@jeremiahwindsor6114 6 дней назад
Love the music. A very nice interlude while I peruse your back catalog after recently discovering your channel. That you for the insightful entertainment!
@elliottedwards2094
@elliottedwards2094 3 месяца назад
DEFINITELY want a video on African American English please.
@kintayatkinson3037
@kintayatkinson3037 Месяц назад
We were saying WOKE decades ago. Most of our stuff gets stolen and ruined by those that aren’t part of the culture
@prodigykitty3614
@prodigykitty3614 26 дней назад
As what we have always seen, it gets stolen and weaponized.
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 21 день назад
Part of the culture? You took woke from English and slapped your own definition on it you hypocrite.
@jfair1914
@jfair1914 Месяц назад
This guy is the truth. I really appreciate how he approaches linguistics.
@wafelsen
@wafelsen 4 месяца назад
An instance of this participle I hear a lot is my staff at a deli asking “do you want it toast?” where I would say “do you want your sandwich toasted?”
@clarepotter7584
@clarepotter7584 4 месяца назад
Language is how people use it, true. One of the best ways to stop your teenagers using the latest words, is to use the same language back to them. It suddenly becomes less on trend. 😆
@SuonoReale
@SuonoReale Месяц назад
Dr Jones, I love this video. @7:42 Is music considered a language by linguists? why or why not? Furthermore, do different parts of the brain interpret conventional language versus music? What is the purpose of music? Obviously, these questions go well beyond linguistics, and into ontology (half-joking).
@o80MiM08o
@o80MiM08o Месяц назад
Ok but that outro was actually amazing
@thatguy9502
@thatguy9502 Месяц назад
old enough to remember when woke meant to have your eyes opened to the systems of the world and see it for what it is an not being asleep in life. and those in power known this and decided to make it negative to keep the masses "slept".
@curtainkane
@curtainkane 4 месяца назад
Shook is also used in Hiberno English (Irish English). And I think it's basically used the same way it is in AAVE. It's possible we might have gotten it from aave or vice versa, though it wouldn't surprise me if it just occurred by coincide in both dialects. Irish English also has lots of 'nonstandard' forms, many having crossed over from the Irish language
@karlputz6721
@karlputz6721 2 дня назад
Damn. That's the best outro to a video I've seen in a long time!
@RedLianaK
@RedLianaK 4 месяца назад
Thank you! I felt so alone thinking a lot of these things. Nice to have an expert confirm it
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
There’s dozens of us!
@holysecret2
@holysecret2 11 дней назад
So to my understanding, "woke" and "based" are meant to describe similar things. You are in short grounded, in touch with reality, your worldview is rooted in rationality and other positive guidelines. But as with anything, the meanings get twisted by either extremism or sarcasm, which are not always easy to distinguish.
@gc2009able
@gc2009able 4 месяца назад
Yes please a video on how AAE's tense/mood structure is more complex than classroom English!
@moka8267
@moka8267 3 месяца назад
And sophisticated!
@KAZVorpal
@KAZVorpal 10 дней назад
The paradox of wokeness is the irony of the grammatic ignorance it illustrates.
@scaredyfish
@scaredyfish 4 месяца назад
I remember back before woke became pejorative, it really did feel like a useful term to describe how it feels to see the world in terms of systems and structures of power, rather than as isolated acts of racism, sexism, etc. It has such explanatory power that it does feel a lot like waking up. Now it’s just added to a long line of disingenuous, and largely content-free political insults from bleeding heart liberal, to political correctness, to social justice warriors, and now wokeism. Each time it’s presented as though it’s a new dangerous ideology, when in fact it’s just rebranding of the same thing in order to belittle and discredit it without actually engaging with leftist ideas.
@riseofdarkleela
@riseofdarkleela 3 дня назад
OMG languagejones not only makes videos about words but also plays guitar! Hyperfixations engaged!!!
@TheDgil10
@TheDgil10 Месяц назад
This was a very good video. The music part made me a lifetime fan. Stay Woke ✊🏾
@nickbufalinoacoustic
@nickbufalinoacoustic 2 месяца назад
Dude, fantastic outro!! Excellent playing!
@jayball820
@jayball820 4 месяца назад
If you do more episodes on AAVE I think it'd be nice if you invited someone on that actually speaks it. Most times I've heard it talked about on RU-vid and in College it was from another white person. Kinda felt like learning a foreign language from another person from the US instead of a native speaker
@languagejones6784
@languagejones6784 4 месяца назад
That sentiment is why my previous videos on it have interviews with 3 of the 5 or so black linguists who speak it. But for what it’s worth, those are the speech communities I grew up in, and live in. And it always bothers me that a lot of the linguistic discussion about AAE is from people who don’t speak or seem to even actually respect it.
@stephenspackman5573
@stephenspackman5573 28 дней назад
I first met the word woke in what I _thought_ was the current sense in 1990 or 1991, while I was living in Chicago, in that weird enclave in the south side that is held by the University of Chicago. Someone on a bus was ranting a little incoherently but thoroughly interestingly about (if I heard and recall correctly) (Black) sheeps and (White) woofs and US race relations generally, and telling everyone in the bus to wake up to what they were seeing around them. As my philosophy prof once told me, philosophy can be defined as discourse that comes between the second and sixth beers. In any case, the message and the meaning of the words was nigh impossible to miss, not least given what you could see outside the bus. I have simply not been able to wrap my head around “woke” as a pejorative, but it seems that socialist, liberal and democrat are now pejorative, too … so it's easier to conclude that in the eyes of some we're not supposed be decent human beings any more than that it's a special linguistic phenomenon. It's a full-on assault on humanity (pun intended).
@natechatterton5487
@natechatterton5487 23 дня назад
was loving your linguistics content and jumped out of my chair when you pulled out a guitar. good stuff. keep it coming!
@torch2nine
@torch2nine 8 дней назад
I'm 45 and having used the term for many many years I hate to see what it's turned into it does feel little trash.
@boptillyouflop
@boptillyouflop 6 дней назад
Vlad Vexler is on the left and talks about the same thing roughly but has completely different ways to describe it: - "Profoundly depoliticized, caught up in moralized actions, expressions of political theater that don't any longer relate to serious questions like winning and getting power." - "Into a dynamic where inadvertently they're destroying their own democracies." - "Theatrical and unproductive engagement in politics." - "Not disengaged, but neurotically disengaged." - "Unconstructive." - "Favor purity of certain moral positions, purity of certain stances because they reflect our identity rather than winning, rather than getting closer or further away from power or influencing those who have power so that they do more of what we want." Vaush has called them "LARPers" (essentially saying that they were role-playing political activism). Cenk Uygur describes it as having "an extreme position", "it's terrible politics", "radical". A lot of people call it "Postmodernism" or "Frankfurt School". David Pakman describes it as "They focus, for my take, for my taste and for my perspective, uh, too much on all narrative is valid, and, uh, language", and tries to coin the term "Foucault-ian", "Critical theory based on Foucault-ian ideas", "It's extremely top-down" (talking about stuff like "Latinx"). Other occasional descriptions are "post-truth", "non-consistent logic", "no single reality", "no single truth", "multiple truths" etc.
@anthonyamaro998
@anthonyamaro998 12 дней назад
When I first encountered woke culture, I was fully supportive of its goals. The movement’s commitment to addressing systemic inequalities and advocating for marginalized communities resonated deeply with me. However, my perspective has evolved over time. I now believe that woke culture, in its current form, has become excessive and counterproductive. One key issue is the increasing sensitivity and offense people take over minor issues or differing viewpoints. It seems that the manner in which someone phrases their thoughts or describes their experiences can sometimes lead to disproportionate reactions. This heightened sensitivity can overshadow the original intentions and prevent constructive dialogue. Instead of fostering understanding, it sometimes leads to more division. Moreover, I am concerned about how some aspects of woke culture have influenced the interpretation of historical events. While it's crucial to learn from the negative aspects of history-such as racism and other forms of discrimination-to prevent repeating them, I worry that some efforts to rewrite history can overshadow the need for an accurate and balanced understanding of the past. History should be a tool for education and growth, not just a battleground for ideological conflicts. I believe that while fighting for one’s beliefs is important, it shouldn't require extreme measures or the constant pursuit of proving one’s point at any cost. Advocacy should be grounded in reason and aimed at fostering genuine progress, rather than escalating tensions and creating new forms of conflict. On the political front, I am disheartened by how both the Republican and Democratic parties contribute to misinformation and conspiracy theories. This behavior often exacerbates divisions and undermines constructive discourse. Instead of focusing on baseless claims or sensational narratives, both parties should strive to provide accurate information and engage in meaningful dialogue. In summary, my perspective on woke culture has shifted from enthusiastic support to a more critical view. While I still value the core principles of advocating for justice and equality, I believe that the current approach often leads to over-sensitivity, historical revisionism, and political polarization. Striking a balance between activism and reasoned discussion is crucial for meaningful progress
@raindanse8466
@raindanse8466 3 дня назад
Woke culture? Who tf is the “woke culture”. You guys are keeling me bruh with this stupid sht. I, I just can’t. “They not like us” frfr.
@havable
@havable 4 месяца назад
Euphemism Treadmill. Here's a great one: "Good enough for government work" used to be a compliment because under FDR the WPA built so many beautiful stone buildings with art all over the facades and so forth. It was a compliment until Reagan came along and got people to think everything America does is bad, whether its our schoolteachers or other civil servants or anything at all having to do with the govt. He himself was bad, not govt in general. He got into office by promising to give Iran special favors if they kept those hostages in order to make Carter look weak. And then he committed a lot more crimes after that, like with his secret war in Nicaragua where he sent fascist mercenaries to topple the duly-elected govt there.
@berserkasaurusrex4233
@berserkasaurusrex4233 4 месяца назад
No, the phrase "Good enough for government work" was originally Canadian, and dates to at least 1906, way before FDR and the WPA. It was adopted in the US during the second world war, mostly by defense factory workers, and basically meant the government specifications were strange and often contradictory and being translated through a load of bureaucracy. It was a statement on the process, more than the product quality, essentially the manufacturers' version of FUBAR. It became a fully negative term about the quality of the product during the 1960's and early Vietnam era, long before Reagan. A few years ago some leftist author wrote a book trying to "reclaim" the phrase and rewriting history to pretend it was once a compliment, but that was never the case. Also, Reagan got in because the economy was absolutely horrid, inflation was high, and Carter was deeply unpopular due to multiple policy failures to address either effectively. The hostage crisis and his mishandling of it was just one of several factors in his loss to Reagan.
@NameIsDoc
@NameIsDoc 4 месяца назад
Not even close. Similar phrases used as pejoratives have existed in Europe for ages. The modern phrase used as a pejorative was found in Canada talking about the insane and often contradictory practices put in place by bureaucratic processes usually by individuals who have no idea how the practice actually works. FDR and his stone buildings were just busy work in the eyes of most people. The vast majority of individuals, especially those educated fields, we’re not particularly happy to be forced into stonemasonry in order to feed their families. However, identity, politics of the time, namely that surrounding the racial identity groups allowed FDR to rain for a long period of time. Reagan was not the cause of the massive stagflation that happened in fact if it wasn’t for Reagan, we would’ve been destroyed in the 1980s. Due to insane policies put in place during the 1960s and the absolutely abysmal policies is put into place by the Carter administration. Reagan had to basically save our economy, and if you looked at his policies, you would often find that individuals and businesses that are now dominating the fields were born during his era. I get that you want to blame everything on one side of the aisle, but that isn’t accurate. You actually need to look at the whole of history to understand where the issues of our culture come from this entire woke culture stems from Democrats really wanting to go back to the ages of segregation where it was easier to manipulate voters unfortunately it is working
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 3 месяца назад
Growing up in Texas in the 1960s, good enough for government work always meant "this has been done to minimal standards". It's functional but it's not high quality.
@tdubmusketeer
@tdubmusketeer Месяц назад
@@NameIsDoc​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠you use so many right wing dog whistles, my dead dog just rose from its grave. What in the world do you mean by democrats want to bring us back to the era of segregation? That’s an absurd thing to say
@aersla1731
@aersla1731 9 дней назад
This channel is a gold mine.
@chamangus
@chamangus Месяц назад
Especially liked the SURPRISE musical outro. Stay woke.
@yusaki8064
@yusaki8064 4 месяца назад
Often we are told that we should speak and write a specific kind of English. But I like the variation our language has. That African American English makes words other people adopt. I also like the idea of writing how we speak. There is a particular RU-vidr I watch who’s from Essex and she will type out her words like she speak them like: “Ey mate, dya av a minute. Fanks.” I feel like typing as you speak allows you to get the reader to read it in your accent which can make the writing seem more close.
@germpore
@germpore День назад
Woke just functionally replaced "politically correct" or "PC" and has basically the same meaning. Albeit, as someone who's, yes, anti-wokeness, I'd like to resurrect "politically correct" as the term, since that actually gets at what I'm against. I'm not against being awake to injustice, but rather having a political ideologues try to dictate to me what I can and can't say and, more importantly, what I can and can't think. Being awake to injustice and not wanting my language or ideas dictated to me are hardly mutually exclusive, BTW, and if anything, are highly compatible.
@Mehki227
@Mehki227 7 дней назад
I hope you get this right, because woke was around when I was a teenager over 50 years ago and when I looked it up it's been around for over a hundred years. And then the right got a hold of it around 2019 and totally ruined the coolness of "woke". 😖
@trevorlambert4226
@trevorlambert4226 15 дней назад
In reference to 5:35 ("words mean what people use them to mean"), I'd appreciate a video explaining where the line is between someone using a word incorrectly, and it becoming correct because they're using that way. I think we can all agree that one person using the word "of" to mean "have" didn't instantly make it correct. You need more than one person doing it. Until such time, it's a mistake. How do you judge when it's no longer a mistake? I still consider that example a mistake, despite it appearing in some dictionaries. It's pretty bizarre when you think about it, a word changing meaning literally because people make the same mistake over and over again. It's like language is being driven by the stupid. Doesn't that imply that language itself is destined to become more stupid over time?
@thomasnaas2813
@thomasnaas2813 3 дня назад
Being woke simply means becoming aware of racial injustice, it's causes, history and it's continued presence today. In it's broader meaning it's about becoming enlightened to all social injustice and it's affect on the human condition. Woke should not be a one time epiphany and then you're cool; it should be something we strive for as much and as often as we can.
@maaaaaathew
@maaaaaathew 9 дней назад
Something I’ve observed in the UK, with its right wing copying the US far right playbook, is how the ‘word’ woke is used more as a placeholder for a feeling. We get loads of gotcha journalist asking for people to define the word when they use it derivatively, and non can, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean something very visceral to them. It’s like a dog whistle to a whole load of negative feelings. A short hand for ‘everything that’s wrong right now’. The left is too caught up on the idea that the right can’t give a succinct definition. We’re (the left, I’m left!) ignoring the powerful emotion behind their use of this word and acting like they’re stupid. It’s more a case that they’re angry, and ‘woke’ is the noise they now make with their mouths to express that.
@mojrimibnharb4584
@mojrimibnharb4584 4 месяца назад
Love the "euphemism treadmill" which I've been calling the "slurification cycle."
@JPCorwyn
@JPCorwyn 4 месяца назад
That was...dark (the shook example). That said, you've made me smile. It does my heart good to see someone with such a clear understanding, and fairly crystaline explanation of the inflicted plight of Black English. To wit, the reality of its dismissal as legitimate, let alone the pernicious propensity to turn phrases or even every day useage of the language/dialect into absurdist, mean-spirited mockery. Thanks for yet another excellent video. :)
@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 8 дней назад
I appreciate that this wasn't a video accusing people you consider to be woke of things but was instead an analysis of the word
@emile_fa
@emile_fa Месяц назад
I'm a French person who lived in Ireland when woke was being used in the context of intersectionality. I somehow always knew woke meant awake, same for shook. Never really reflected any further on the actual origin, though African American English makes perfect sense now that you say it. I've been in France ever since it's been taking a negative connotation and I've seen the far-right and all far-right leaning media (owned by billionaires) use the term wokisme as a way to criticise the left. Now it's mainstream and even people on the left are using it, not even being aware of its previous use as meaning someone who questions social injustice and systematic oppression. It probably helps that some of this people don't know what the verb wake means in English in the first place.
@lennibastert7445
@lennibastert7445 13 дней назад
What I don't understand is where the paradox lies? I rewatched it a couple of times but the way you explain it it sounds more like "yeah of course that's would happen." I mean, it's simultaneously invisible and everywhere. Obviously people would take those "invisible yet ever-present words" to use and discard how they please?! I would argue it can be done respectfully? Not sure though. Mixing and matching between languages and varieties is so much fun, I don't ever want to give that up ❤
@JUSLOFI
@JUSLOFI Месяц назад
When I told a conservative "Qanon is 'Conservative Woke", they was floored because they thought "Woke" meant "Politically Correct."
@sarawilliams5990
@sarawilliams5990 25 дней назад
Whelp, what's "politically correct" funnily enough depends on the context. Conservatives push their own brand of political correctness pretty hard. And their own cancel culture, which is the OG one, TBH.
@IndomitableAde
@IndomitableAde 23 дня назад
You mean Qanon, the wacky conspiracy factory? Nothing about them is woke.
@wihatmi5510
@wihatmi5510 9 дней назад
I'm from Germany so I was only introduced to the word "woke" a few years ago and only in it's current meaning. However for me I still wouldn't consider it as something negative. For me it means not being racist, not being sexist, not being homophobic, not being transphobic and a lot of other positive things. If right-winged people use this as an insult it tells us more about them than about the one they are insulting.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 29 дней назад
Having a paper talking about "le wokisme" immediately makes anything said about it feel about 15% more intellectual.
@claudebeazley
@claudebeazley 2 дня назад
For many years, Microsoft has employed a strategy to destroy its competitors called "Embrace , extend , extinguish". You "embrace" the new competing technology into your ecosystem. Then you "extend" it, by using it in ways that breaks the original implementation, so that only the Microsoft version works properly. Then you "Extinguish" the competition. This worked because Microsft was in such a dominant position, they could for e the implementation how they liked. There seems to me a parallel here. The hard right in the US is waging a war against "Woke" , so they start using the woke terms. I e. They embrace the language. Bur then they "extend" the original implementation or meanings to be something else. Then they use that wrong to "extinguish" the culture of the competition.
@elCONQUEROR81
@elCONQUEROR81 17 дней назад
The words we use are not just taken and transformed, they are profited off of before we do it ourselves. Same with the dances and the excuse is usually how he describes it. “It’s not yours, it’s just a word”.
@shawnmartian
@shawnmartian Месяц назад
this thought of stay woke meaning stay vigilante or stay up has been on my mind since it turned into the shit show it is now. btw your guitar skills gave me goosebumps
@nyuh
@nyuh 4 месяца назад
the video was already great but then theres a frggin song at the end?!?! its so good??
@jobitaphillips1466
@jobitaphillips1466 10 дней назад
In the 90s we also started saying “be conscious”. Same meaning. From my research stay woke was first in print around the 1920s from a musician who was warning his audience to be careful going home cuz the white cops were a bit restless. And it grew from there. My parents and grandparents used it. Also think of Spike Lee’s “School Daze” when Lawrence fishburn yelled at the end “WAKE UP”. I think the word woke may have took off with white people in mainstream media when Michael brown was murdered by cops in Michigan and a lot of black protestors has signs that said “stay woke” and white supporters saw that and started saying it too. I could be wrong but that’s my hypothesis right now. The white liberals started using it for everything and every cause and proudly saying “I’m woke” then the conservatives started hating on it.
@justinpfeil5018
@justinpfeil5018 8 дней назад
African-American English is clever. For example. "I am waiting for the bus." "I have been waiting for the bus." "I will be waiting for the bus" "I BEEN waiting for the bus."
@kelvincook4246
@kelvincook4246 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much for this timely and very informative video. And definitely "Stay Woke" and continue to drop science like you do.😊
@Danilaschannel
@Danilaschannel 4 месяца назад
that was good but i have to admit i had to listen to it twice to actually figure out where you were going with the discussion
@cynthiapowers8139
@cynthiapowers8139 19 дней назад
I always thought woke was something only AA could be. As a white person, if I'd been asked if I was woke, I would say I was woke enough to know better than to say I was woke.
@karendaniel620
@karendaniel620 6 дней назад
What does it say about me that I needed a break from protests and politics and was like, "Oh! Linguistics!"
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