The Messiah before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls Kindle amzn.to/3X9TLe0 Paperback amzn.to/3GXuNtf === ==== Books by Ishay Rosen-Zvi (affiliated links) Goy: Israel's Multiple Others and the Birth of the Gentile (Oxford Studies in the Abrahamic Religions) amzn.to/3HQ8iaf = Demonic Desires: "Yetzer Hara" and the Problem of Evil in Late Antiquity (Divinations: Rereading Late Ancient Religion) amzn.to/3uZg9KS = The Evil Inclination in Early Judaism and Christianity amzn.to/3WxutGx
I am really enjoying all these scholars' conversations. Thank you so much. I did my grad work on Paul's use of the Genesis creation stories in his letters, including the uses of the planting image. Paul's three main sources for his new story are Scripture, the Christ event and the experiences of the faith community. Richard B. Hays's book, Echoes of Scripture in the Letters of Paul was helpful in understanding the interplay of these three sources. I really appreciate Prof. Rosen Zvi's views on where the rift(s) occur - he illustrates the delicate approach necessary for interpreting and understanding Paul in his context. Thanks again.
I always recall my mother pointing out that Paul's favourite person was Paul. He was always talking about himself. Me me me she said one Sunday after Mass.
Thank you. Paul is such a complex and complicated figure. Lots of interesting points in this video. I would love to hear professors views what would be Pauls reactions and thoughts if he had been introduced to the Nicene christianity that ended up "winning the day" and which draws so much from Johannine theology that i assume would have sounded very strange in Pauls ears.
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
Great stuff. Religion is all hokum to me, but it's never boring. This understanding of Paul makes absolute sense, and is pretty-much what I have thought over many years. If we were able to combine the three Abrahamic religions into the original 1st century BC Judaism, it would serve all those who need a deity very well - just one universal God. Right? Still religious hokum, but fewer reasons to kill each other.
Dear Prof Rosen Svi, I found your scholarly representation of Jesua, Paul and the gospel message very interesting and even enlightening. Especially in the sence of Jewish scholarships effort to make sence of Jesus, Paul etc. Nothing wrong with that. Thats what scholars do. However, what I do find interesting is not the things that you do say, but the things you ommit that are central to a fuller understanding of what we in mainstream Christianity REALY belief (we have our own quota of heretics!) ito the Gospel figures and their message. I think that might help to have a clearer understanding of the Good News. As a gentile follower of the Jewish messiah we do share your faith in the only ONE creator God, who through the SEED will destroy the head of the snake, elected Israel as His people through whom He will bless the (goyiim) the nations of whom I am one. Praise be to Him for his mercy shown to a lost sinner like me. Without Tanakh, I and millions of others would have no clue of God and any hope for eternal salvation. I thank God for the Jewish scriptures and his prophets who announced the comming of a new covenant in which I as a gentile can partake. If not I would have been lost for eternity. May God bless you in your scholarly endevours.
Previous to invent christianity, Paul cancells Judaism, yet as for the TANACH i think Paul when wanting to prove without doubt some statements he had, he will go to Torah and Prophets and Scriptures. I personally don't agree with Paul's interpretations.
To have a complete understanding of the self-appointed apostle Paul, it is a must to understand his mental instability. Please, enrich your understanding of Paul by clicking on the logo on the left and look for the video “Paul, who was he?”. Enjoy!
Hes not self appointed. Other apostle supported him. Hes not mental unstable. What he said in his letter is just his midrash. The self proclaim apostle is Mohammad, and hes the one whos mentally unstable.
@@גקליןיפה Sure have. All those 3 are Chinese forgeries of Paul specially in relationship to gentiles coming to the God of Israel and their Noahide *NONESENSE*
