What do you people think of the Artisan Zero Mid? If you have any suggestions for future videos or feedback for this one, please let me know. Thank you!
Personally for me LGG Saturn pro sits in the upper range of control pads/at the lower end of medium pads, similar with the Artisan zero soft/xsoft. Veil something like a RIZZ doodle or the old Zowie GSR is at the lower end of control/slow/muddy pads being very controlled. And a Endgame Gear-EM-C sits in the middle for control pads. I have not tried the Artisan zero MID, but i would guess, to me the MID would probable land more in the higher end of medium pad category. Even so even when on paper the End game gear em-c is a more controlled pad than the other 2, the Artisan zero xsoft i own, i find it i'm more locked in with that when i game CS/Val. Veil often switch over to the LGG Saturn pro when gaming more tracking heavy games like Apex/OW2 for a more balanced feel. I still like the EM-C though.
@@bergdk237 I also use LGG Saturn, but not the pro version. I like the base of regular regular Saturn when I have my xsoft otsu under it. Honestly could go with even slower pad since that's what seems to fit me the best for what I play (CS).
Dude just analyzed the entire mousepad aspect of aiming? Bruh what the hell haven't seen a video better analyzed and rich in useful information that his. Straight to the point, great explanation and visual representation. Lowkey got an Artisan mousepad some time ago, and trust me when I say it. I'm never going back to any other manufacturer. After watching this I'm seriously thinking of trying the Zero Mid. Thanks for always delivering top quality content my man! Fucking Appreciate ya!
I've tried so many pads from glass to mud pads and alll the zero clones, but something about the zero just feels perfect it's the pad i always go back to
1. Jack of all trades, master of none. If you can only play on one mousepad it makes sense to go for balance in all aspects since you do not want to be limited heavily in any aspect. In reality, when we sit down to play we know what we going to play for the most part, so taking the pad that performs best and gives the largest advantage (mudpad for cs, glass/hybrid etc for tracking heavy games) is fairly straight forward and is also similar for cheesing kvk scores. 2. Artisan mid pads afaik do not stick well at all to some ( most?) surfaces and will require you to constantly water the desk to make them stick via vacuum. If your desk works well with mid thats lucky but for many it literally slides around. Soft is much better, xsoft best for this aspect. Its an interesting theory and for a while for the same reason I believed something like the otsu is the best since it felt extremely balanced in all aspects, but today I think its best to maximize advantage and just play the pad the game needs.
I always find myself going back to the Zero, people say it's a safe or boring pad but I mean that's fine. It's just a great all rounder, I think for many people they can just buy this and never look at anything else.
There is a balanced pad it's the HIEN MID Anyways, great description of mousepads in general. For only taking about 3 minutes you basically summed up what a lot of people don't understand when they start looking for higher end pads.
Great video! I want to buy a new setup in christmas and I was thinkin about the op18k, the saturn pro and prosicion sleeve. Theres so many options out there that i don't know what is the right choice hehe. It is a good combo the op18k with the zero mid? And if it is the case... which skates are you using and which you recommend that I can look for? Sorry for my bad english and Thank you c:
I believe so, I am currently on the Zero Mid and the OP1 8k and I really enjoy the setup. As for skates, I use the X-raypad Jade Dots, however, I think any good PTFE skates will do (Tiger Ice, Corepads, or other X-rapad options), also I haven't looked into the newer trendy options for skates, so take my options with a grain of salt. Thank you for your feedback!
@@Keeahh Thank you so much for the quick response :D !! You think the stock skates are good just to keep it in that way? I don't know if there's shipment for my country (I'm from Mexico Ajuaaaa), and i haven't bought any mouse skate before so... I usually stick with the stock skates. But if you recommend to switch to the jade dots i'll look for some way to get them. Again, thank you for the advices n,n Edit: Is the op18k good for fingertip grip? I usually use the razer viper mini and it feels good but is not on that point that i feel super comfortable with it. I tried the GPX but it feels really big even when I have large hands. Thank you again c:
I think staying with the stock ones is fine, I would personally try to find any top quality PTFE skate I can get my hands on (even a normal corepads one), but you don't have to. I think the OP1 shape can definetely work with fingertip as well, due to it's narrow sides, but I am unsure how better or worse it can be compared to the viper mini... (it would also depend on your exact "fingertip" grip and you hands).
Only issue with the mid that I;ve had is that it doesn't stick well to the desk do to the less thickness of poron. That and the fact that it doesn't have the raised surface like the other thicknesses. One of my favorite things about the artisan's was that the pad surface sat slightly about the stitching. No other pad was doing this at the time and the mid doesn't have this. But none the less I might buy one at some point. Although to me I haven't used my artisans in a while regardless. I've found that the Saturn Pro soft is just such a well balanced all around pad that also doesnt attract or get hair/lint stuck in it like my zero does. Just feels smoother too.
Dude wtf why do u have the same artisan pads as I do. I got my first artisan pad as raiden xsoft then I got the zero soft couple months back and really just enjoying this one. Definitely my favorite compared to other well known similar pads but they irritated my wrists. Even the Hien I didn't really like it.
I used the Hayate Otsu in XSoft for almost a year and it developed a lot of very slow and muddy spots. I decided to get a raiden mid and loved it but can't use it with confidence unfortunately because I get spinouts often that kill my confidence (GPX2). For a tracking heavy game do you think the Zero Mid would be similar if not better than the Otsu Xsoft or do you think it would just be smarter to get a Otsu Mid, i'd like to hear what you would do about it?
I haven't used the Otsu Xsoft, I have used the soft one though. I want to say that for a tracking heavy game the Otsu Mid would probably be better, however I don't know by how much, and if it's worth foregoing all the benefits of the Zero Mid. That being said, if you're really invested in tracking, I think the Otsu Mid would be a better fit.
Have you tried ESPTiger Tang Dao? I noticed that Zero XSoft performed very well in all scenarios but speed was lacking just a little bit if you playing something faster than Val. After trying some more pads decided to stop on Tang Dao. It's basically 3-4% faster Zero with softness in between Artisan's mid to soft range
whats your opinion on the typ 99? been having it for a while but this made me wanna buy the soft mid ngl. great video, love the details !! glad i found your videos
tysm for your feedback! I haven't personally tried the type 99, but it does look really interesting. It seems like it's somewhat slower and more "control" centrered than the zero. I might end up checking it out at some point. thank you again for the feedback!
thank you! I would personally vouch for the zero mid for it's overall balance, also, if you're transitioning from the hien mid, you will be able to adjust to the zero mid faster. However, your option might still depend on your preference and the games you play
I think some people will love glass pads and lower friction, however, if you're looking for balance and overall aim, I don't think glass pads are the way to go... unless maybe, in the future, we all move closer to using fingertip mice that weigh less than 20grams and we develop the demanding technique to be able to control it (especially flick technique) but, I don't know if that's very likely... it seems like some pads are better than others at specific tasks, and I think the zero mid provides a crazy amount of balance for all of them
I have both glasswrk kazemi and artisan zero mid but i still prefer glass because it feels fun to use and becus i got hyperhydrois, within a few days my artisan already has a bunch of white spot aka my dead skins imbedded into it😅. But hey just my preference, no hate or anything, i like both😊
I have all the artisan Pads i have the Zero on mid and soft around 300hours each and the saturn pro on mid/firm is a better pad imo why ? Less dirt and Stuck hair More Smooth feeling on Skin Cheaper Price Only Bad Thing is that the bot of the Pad doesnt Stick to the table as good as the zero
Just got two from my recent trip to Japan but my arm keeps getting stuck and using a sleeve is even worse. Anyone have a good tip or sleeve recommendation?
I believe the one MattyOW uses is really good and doesn't stick to any pad (because it's not nylon). The Prosicion "Kontrol" Knit Fabric (I think it's the "Spandex Knit")
"Mid" is the thickness for the Zero. Each Artisan pad comes in three thicknesses: Mid, Soft, xSoft. Mid being the thinnest at 3mm. xSoft being the thickest. The xSoft pads are extremely plushy feeling. The zero mid is a nice pad. Though I personally believe the best balance is the Hayate Otsu soft. glasspads don't really have much balance, they're primarily based around speed. Some are more controllable than others. Mouse skates play a huge factor with this.
Or try out a LGG Saturn pro, it is advertised as a medium/kontrol pad. Personally for me LGG Saturn pro sits just in the upper range of control pads/at the lower end of medium pads, similar with the Artisan zero soft/xsoft. Veil something like a RIZZ doodle is at the lower end of control/slow pads being very controlled. And a Endgame Gear-EM-C sits in the middle for control pads. I have not tried the Artisan zero MID, but i would guess, to me the MID would probable land more in the higher end of medium pad category.
