Crazy something as simple as spacers change the look of the car that much, but it is always the little things that makes the biggest difference! Ride is looking good bro!
Damn this is not a major upgrade but it does help improving the look of the car by a bit. I just purchased the 2024 OBW and thanks to your video I ended up getting these spacers. Thanks man and the ride is looking good!
quick jack is on my list an has been for a long time. Oil changes, tire rotations, brake pad replacements, suspension work, exhaust work...all done on a time-saving quick jack. No ramps, no jack stands, no jacks. Boom, one and done. I would have stopped at 10mm-12mm spacers (at the risk of needing longer studs). Of course, there is also adding more Method wheels to the stable.
Definitely makes working on the car easier. If only I had a dedicated garage spot for the jacks so that I wouldn’t have to store them away after each use…20mm is perfect since it allows the studs to fit flush behind the stock wheels. You read my mind on the Method wheels 😀 .
Buying a blue OBW in two weeks. Won’t be able to afford the mods you’ve done, but I really admire your dedication to detailed videos and your car. Used to live in Portland, love the content :)
Exciting stuff, you’ll love it! I try to find the best prices for the mods so that it doesn’t break the bank. Thank you so much for that. Where are you now?
splash guards and paint protection film are the only real "necessary" modifications in my book. Other mods would be nice, but guards and PPF are essential.
Any negative driving characteristics after putting em on? Looks great- love the channel. I bought a geyser blue OBW as well and the same spacers this week lol
I added these to my Wilderness and as you said this should have been the factory stance. I’ve also de-coppered the tow hook covers and roof rack covers, much improved.
@ronfromportland 3/4 angle view? Seriously? No one is going to be squatting down and looking at your tires from a 3/4 angle. I see nothing wrong with the stance of your vehicle/tires.
It looks so much better. Quality parts used. I like the OEM wheels. I am probably going to get a Wilderness Forester next year, so the spacers may be on the list for me to.
as a recommendation i advise people all time buy off set rims instead of these as nice as they are as a cheaper alterative they put unwanted stress on the hub and studs these are a nice cosmetic upgrade but they will not be a long term option especially if you plan to serious off road driving
Some folks will have to go with bigger tires and not spacers, if they aren’t getting new wheels. I’m a PA resident and any spacer over 1/4” is considered illegal and will not pass annual inspection. Additionally, tires that push past the outermost part of the fender are also not street legal.
Ron, do the spacers influence the driving in anyway? Mileages to the gallon or turning abilities? Do you feel the difference? Thanks in advance for some answers. It looks awesome I must say.
Nice! Got few Q of you can respond that will be amazing 🤩 1. Was there any problem with insurance for installing spacers? 2. How about Warranty? Does it violate the Warranty conditions? 3. Will it affect the odometer/speedometer? 4. Did you do wheel alignment after installing spacers? Are you planning to upgrade tiers from stock to 235 or 245?
Thanks! No comment on the first two questions since I will never get the right answers for those 🤣. As far as the rest, no impact on the odometer/ speed since the there were no changes to the wheel/tire diameter. I didn’t do an alignment since the suspension was left unaltered. I do recommend getting alignments regularly though. For tires, I do want to get a different set when these need to be replaced but I may keep sizing the same. Hope this helps!
It looks good but you just added another failure point on an offroad capable vehicle. I would be concerned about the wheels falling off if you hit a nice bump.
As your neighbor down in LO, I do like the look, but we have been taking my 23 OW off-road in Brown's Camp and around Clatsop Forest. I would be worried that expanded my wheels beyond the flares would play havoc with the paint job on the forest roads. I also have the factory aftermarket mudflaps... but still, those pebbles will always find their way to a painted surface.
Any photos of the 2020 with spacers? I have a 23 touring and debating it as well. The tech at Subaru said if I do them come back in after 50 miles to have them tightened again.
Thanks a bunch, James! I got the orange caps from eBay. Here’s a link to them: www.ebay.com/itm/153698179953?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=50na-nzrsow&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Oi-7Za6-SDm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
There was just something so weird about the Wilderness that made me want to get it. I had no intentions of doing so! After reading about all its capabilities and watching endless videos of it being put through some rough conditions, I was sold. There was just something weird looking about it that made me want it. Most importantly, I wanted the higher ground clearance for the wife.
Im shopping in a new OB wilderness in Blue or Green. That simple upgrade made the stance on the car look way better. Btw which license plate holder is that?
That green is beautiful. Somedays I wish I got that color instead! This one is the Perrin License Plate Relocator ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AWsohdxlskM.html
I think I'm just gonna go with some lower offset wide wheels and slap some meatier tires on it, this is of course after a lift. The spacers don't give it enough of a noticeable poke IMO. It looks better just not what I need.
Are you happy with going with the 20mm spacers or would you have gone with the 25 or 30 after seeing how your car looks with the 20s? Or do you think 25 and 30 is overkill?
I didn't like the muffin top look much but I like the stock wheels so I just installed a 235/65/17 Wildpeak AT3W its a size up and the tire runs a bit big so it improved the top heavy look alot on my outback, plus I handle the rocky roads a bit better. I love the road handling and don't want a lift. I would have just bought the bronco if I needed more off-road.
Hey man great video, Informative. Does the spacer affect performance or stability now that it's wider? (meaning not just for looks but also functional?) Thanks.
They’re purely for looks, in my opinion, since all you’re doing is pushing the wheels out. I feel no difference in handling/performance. Getting wider wheels is a different story though.
The wider stance actually improves cornering. With 3” spacers on my lifted 4Runner (problem free for 10 years still), body roll was practically eliminated on corners. 20mm will be less noticeable but there.
Anybody running these with a 245/65R17? The Geolanders that came on our OBW just looked too small. We put Nokian 10 on the stock wheels for winter and just put a set of Wildpeaks on a second set of stock wheels. both sets are 245/65R17. No lift and no rubbing either forward or reverse. Also, that Perrin plate bracket is made here in Oregon . Got one ordered.
I would get some bigger tires that’s off set for my forester wilderness. I’m thinking about getting some BF Goodrich K02 the standard Yokohama Geolander can only do so much.
Exactly. Plus with the tires further outside the fenders they’ll just kick up more crap onto the body. I’ve only had my Wilderness for a few weeks but I’m impressed with how well the fenders do in terms of keeping salt/slush off of the painted surfaces. I do agree that it looks better.
Looks great, does it offer little better ride or driving experience? I have a same vehicle but not loving the highway drive experience. I am not sure if I should get smoother tires or any mod I can do so I can love my vehicle. Would spacers or lift would help with better ride quality ?
I didn’t notice any changes to the driving experience. I do admit that the highway driving isn’t the best on the Wilderness but it’s not what the car was designed for haha. We had a regular Outback model as a rental and it was smooth on the freeway. Probably due to the lower ride height and all season tires.
Changing the tires is probably all you need to do. Wilderness comes with "all terrain" tires which are a little more stiff. If you stay on the pavement with your car, then normal tires should do you well.
Besides infotainment demons, really the only thing I don’t like about my ‘23 OBW. Thanks for this, spacers ordered. Are you still pleased with how it drives and how it looks? Thanks in advance, cheers!!
So far, it’s amazing and I’m still pretty happy with the drivability! BUT, one thing that I will eventually make everyone aware of is the potential leaking oil pan. Mine has 1400 miles and I was gutted when I found oil leaking from the lower oil pan. I guess the 20-22 Outbacks with the turbo motors are prone to having leaking oil pans due to a seal failure. Not sure if the 23 OBWs are the same but it wouldn’t hurt to check around that area. I’ll eventually do a follow up video on this because it’s unacceptable! Taking mine back to the dealer soon.
@@ronfromportland Sorry man, just leaning on someone that knows more than me. Are you at all concerned with wheel bearings? There are quite a few haters when it comes to spacers. Hard to find good - offset wheels that I like.
@@jasonramsbottom2185 if I was doing some hardcore off-roading then I would be slightly concerned. For driving on a daily basis, I’m not concerned one bit. You’ll need better wheels and tires for off-roading anyway. Plus, if wheel bearings do go bad, they’re not the most expensive to fix.
I was looking at getting these or the 15mm but I'm not sure if Subaru will still do the tire rotations/balancing under the maintenance package I got when I bought my 22. Have you taken it to Subaru to have the wheels rotated recently?
I have not since I plan on rotating tires at home. I would either call ahead to ask or remove them before getting the services done to make sure they don’t ask any questions and/or try to blame the wheel spacers for something failing.
So I just got two new sets of spacers but there’s one bolt on each pair that is really tight. I’m having a hard time loosening it to separate them since I can’t get any leverage. Any tips here?
Coming back to this. Now that you’ve had them on for a while, have you had any bearing issues? If not, and you had it to do again, would you size up to 25mm? Or is 20 just right cosmetically?
The equation for spacers always has to account for the offset of the wheels attached. For example, the OBW factory wheel offset is 48mm, meaning the hub is fixed 48mm away from the center of the wheel (0mm offset) toward the outer rim of the wheel. This means the rim and tire are being moved inward toward the center of the car. Adding a 20mm spacer in effect pushes the hub (rim and tire) placement outward as if the hub inset (distance between the outer rim and hub) were being reduced inward toward the center of the wheel. Therefore, 20mm spacers give the same inset and poke (in relation to the tire and rim's position) as a 28mm offset wheel (48-20=28). If you want the equivalent positioning of 20mm offset wheels, you would need 28mm spacers.
@@ronfromportland It's a common mod on Jeep wranglers and Toyota Tacomas proper torque setting and blue loctite minimum is a part of every installation procedure. It's literally what is holding your wheels on. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5BAVoESfDAE.html Every major brand like Spider Trax that markets these wheel spacers and loctite is part of the installation process. I could be wrong. I think they may even suggest red loctite but most in my off road clubs use blue.
@@GF-cb8rr for sure, it won’t hurt to use. Perrin’s instructions specify that re-checking torque after 10 miles is necessary, no mention of Loctite. Proper torque is what’s holding them on.
This is nonsense. The fenders are meant to be "out" so you don't ruin the rims on rocks etc. This is not a street car but if you want to ruin your rims, feel free to copy this guy.
Ron Are you happy with your wheel spacers now that you've had them for awhile? Did you have any loose bolts after driving ? Can you still recommend them? Thanks
I didn’t have any loose bolts. Just gotta make sure to re-torque them a few miles after installing to ensure they didn’t back out. But to answer your question, yes I’m happy with them but I’m also fine without them.
