The Philosophy of Red Green - Gruul | Definitive Color Pie Study 

As a Gruul-aligned person myself, I don't think Gruul has the right idea, I feel it! To dance, to love, to tell stories, to revel in this terrible and wonderful life that was gifted to me is what I was made to do and all I ever want

I don't believe Gruul has it right at all. At best I see them as misguided. At worst they're actively ignoring reality and their belief that they are born with all the knowledge they need makes them dangerous and easily misled. For if this idea is true how can one accumulate knew knowledge? New ideas? And what happens when someone makes a discovery but the others fail to heed it because it falls outside of tradition or what came before. How many suffer when instinct and emotion don't align with what is in front of our eyes? In a world that values only strength and physical power what place is there for the weak, the sick, or the disabled? In a world that values impulse so highly what happens when those who's impulses are most violent are allowed to run unchecked in the name of freedom?

@@Arohan71 That's a good point, but I guess it's not as scary as it might seem. The Green is changing, just slowly. Red pushes Green forward a little faster. In turn, Green brings peace and tranquility to Red. The sick and the weak will be cared for by the love and compassion of Red, as well as the desire to protect and the deep sense of unity of Green. The Gruul are not dumb, even though they are not academic scientists, but they have wisdom and knowledge that they accumulate through the experience of many generations and observation of the world around them. As well as understanding the inner self. It is in our world that the manifestation of strong emotions can be problematic, because no one really taught us how to deal with them. And manifestations of impulsivity are most often negative, and can result in violence and cruelty. This is no longer just a desire to follow your feelings and emotions, this is a boiling point, after which a person explodes, uncontrollably burning himself and everything around. After that, he is branded a criminal and removed from sight, setting an example of what happens if impulsiveness and emotionality are allowed. But this is already an unhealthy manifestation of emotions, because sometimes no one knows what to do with their emotions. A Healthy Red and Green Society is a beautiful society. The sick and the weak will be cared for because they are loved, and not because it "should be" according to some law, code, or divine right. The sick and the weak will want to live, to become stronger, to be healed because they are loved.

​​@@Arohan71In defense of Gruul, The Gruul philosophy works best for an individual or small group and less for larger nations and such. Gruul is not so much about not obtaining new knowledge as much as it is trusting your gut instinct over knowledge and thinking. Some problems don't have the luxury of taking time to think. Some Problems require an act first question later approach! For Gruul societies that have sick or infirmed, I would imagine that those afflicted with just roll with the punches. Put a little dirt on it as they say. For those who are allowing their impulses and instincts to take over and caused too much havoc for the Gruul, well a good knock on the head from the Big Boss will calm them down. I do agree a world full of Gruul will have it's problems but To be fair, any "world" that is exclusive to a color philosophy doesn't have it all quite right and will have their problems as well. Each have their pros and cons and each still have their place in the universe. I take it you play blue or white btw?

This is totally not my style. I am mainly a blue person. Gruul is the exact opposite of that. The video even talked about that contrast. Once I get into color combos, I start to like the colors better. I like the nature of green and the freedom of red. Maybe these two can combine to form some aspect of Gruul. Maybe that is the kind that hates being imprisoned by the city. One of the most relatable three color combos for me is Temur. That is essentially Gruul with the opposite color of blue added in. This forms a personality that resembles a shaman. One is comfortable in the wilderness. Yet they also have a deep wisdom about it. It takes a ton of knowledge and training to be a shaman. The Celtic version of a shaman is the druid, and that takes many years to train for. I suppose the one major thing that Temur lacks is that it doesn't get caught up with the duality of more modern religion. It lacks the collectivism of white and the individualism of black. There is just a neutral adherence to nature and knowledge. That is so refreshing in a way. If one put Temur in a DND alignment chart, it would likely go in true neutral or chaotic neutral. I do admire shamans because they are the first magicians. They are really the foundation for the other kinds. That can fit the three colors together. Green has the tradition to form a base. Red and blue together form creativity, which can develop off the base. I do like to imagine things in a fantasy world. One kind of occupation I did imagine is that of an adventurer. They are the ones that go into the wilderness and do exciting stuff. This kind of character would fit in Temur. There is a huge emphasis on nature and the environment, so that makes green. The adventurer has a lot of freedom and action. They like getting into fights. That is like red. The adventurers also have a lot of intelligence. They have a knowledge of battle strategy, geography, resource locations etc. They can handle the complexity of the world. That is like blue. The adventurer is a bit of a mercenary. They are willing to do anything for anybody, as long as they get a decent reward. That ties into the neutral nature of Temur. Then I thought of an offshoot of the adventurer. That is wild people. It is like Temur but drop the intelligence of blue. These kind of people live in the wilderness. They live in nature and they are free. They live like wild animals, and they can even shapeshift to animals. Wild people can form romantic bonds with humans living on the outskirts of settlements. They are very loving and affectionate. There is also a primal desire for a romantic partner. The wild people are pretty fun to imagine. They fit the red and green of Gruul perfectly. That is pretty cool. Wild is a good word to describe the color pair. It usually means something that is energetic and hard to control. That is red. Sometimes it is used to describe animals and environments to mean something in nature. That is green. All MTG color pairs have multiple manifestations across many different planes. The ones that most closely resemble my idea of wild people would be the werewolves of Innistrad and sayters of Theros. They really get into the human and animal mix thing. Werewolves are a bit closer due to the shapeshifting. Werewolves are even my favorite horror monster. Turning into a wolf would be cool if it didn't have a bad reputation. Now that I think of it, Innistad does tone down the creepy aspect by not making werewolves black. That is refreshing in a way. That plane is full of horror monsters. Vampires are Rakdos, and zombies are Dimir. Those are the two black monsters. One thing both have in common is that they are dead bodies that have become undead. That does make them fit really close to the whole graveyard theme and mechanics of black. One thing that werewolves and vampires have in common is a powerful hunger and an impulse to attacks and bite. That is like the shared color of red. Gruul isn't the most relatable color pair. However it definitely has its appeal. It can play its part in the vivid diversity that is the color combos.

Now bow your heads for the man's prayer.

Quando omni flunkus moritati

Amazing reference 💯 Such a good show!

You speak the language of my people

This.

Glad I’m not alone, a societal prison only works for those who love it or fear what’s outside of it. For us it’s a cage, we hear the call and our hearts long for it. I’ll see you out there.

As a rakdos I see society as something that holds me back as well. But I'd be lying if I say I don't like taking advantage of some things it made possible. For me ut is what it is, I take advantage of what I can, discard what I can not, allow myself to be a hypocrite when fit, living life one step at time. Not that different from each other but at the same time completly different.

It's great when a plan comes together

I'm on the same page, gruul isn't quite my cup of tea, but they do have something going that I can appreciate.

I have several friends who have both red and green mana within them, and relaxing & dependable is how I would describe them. They are some of the best friends I've made, and with them I've cultivated a great community of people who are hearty and filled with passion. In another time, they would be wild and free savages, living life to it's fullest

I'm definitely rooted deeply in red and green. I'm a huge fan of the relaxed, content side of Gruul that isn't shown much since a lot of Gruul is big smash. I like the Gruul that just wants to be, to enjoy their existence and celebrate with others, and accept that you are who you are and that it's a beautiful thing to be you ♡

Yeah, the quiz isn't perfect, but it does get close, and from there, we can do a bit of introspection.

This may be telling you something important : What are you allowing to influence and change you to view yourself in a light you yourself do not agree with? Take some time and look at those results, and ask yourself this : Who do you want to be, and why aren't you that person?

Thanks, for the kind words, it makes it all worth the hard work.

I've actually made a couple of videos on evil and the color pie. That said those were all mono colored.

Evil green/red is the belief that there is a correct, natural order of things (Green) and the willingness to lash out so others adhere to it (Red). It's the Gruul Clan philosophy without moderation. It's Klothys' mandate on fate. It's thinking you're right and not resting until everyone else knows it. On a similar note lot of people treat Black/Red like the colors of facism, but that's only because of real-world association. Mandatory conformity to tradition, the culling of the other, and military might making right? That's not black red. That's green white

​@DiceTry I would agree that expanding on your previous venture into evil, you dove into the different sides of white, showing how both Elspeth and the White Preator are both true representations of White mana. Returning to how evil looks within the color pie, and how it changes when it joins up with multiple colors is something that would be intresting to discover

@@DiceTry Oh yes those were some of my favourites. Would love to see new ones including Color pairs!

I think going into pairs is a good idea, will add it to my list

you're telling me I could get an above-rate creature with no downside? Obviously busted! I mean, that's a 10 turn clock that you have to burn a force of will on!

Kinda disappointed it wasn't now

Haha thanks, things aren't too bad but I'm sure my time will come.

That's one of the best lessons in Magic Color Philosophy, EVERYONE has every color in them and these pieces come out at different time. What colors you are isn't about what you have and lack, its about what feels most like YOU. It's about what you both are and strive to be, even if you contain everything and show all traits. They most likely aren't equal. Yknow

No, that's Black and Blue who defy destiny not Red itself. Destiny is something Red can share with Green because they feel compelled to act on based on their impulse, along with Green's instinct, to fulfill their sense of purpose and adventure.

@@loneoutsider8004 my point is that red would reject any notion that their life is controlled by an outside force

That's when Red is paired with Black that will reject Destiny, Red paired with Green is more like how you naturally act and express yourself as a living creature. Destiny for this pair is not an external force that controls them, it's their internal nature that drives them to fulfill those certain outcomes because they refuse to change(Green) and act before they think(Red). It ends up being a self fulfilling prophecy for Gruul and the reason why Blue is opposite of this pair, Blue thinks in the long term before making a decision and being the color of nuture, believes that you are a blank slate who can be molded in any way you wish to be.

Ted Kaczynski was more Simic than Gruul. Read some of his writings, they're quite interesting.

@@bladdnun3016 Split the difference and make him Temur

@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle I can see that.