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MIT 8.04 Quantum Physics I, Spring 2016
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Instructor: Barton Zwiebach
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@devinpatterson1292
@devinpatterson1292 5 лет назад
This lecturer is great, he coveys the info in a way that is actually digestible!
@TheVincent0268
@TheVincent0268 3 года назад
I admit that. I have followed other lectures, for example by Leonard Susskind (who is also a very good lecturer) but Barton Zwiebach has my preference right now. I like his gentle style.
@user-fb6no8se4r
@user-fb6no8se4r 11 месяцев назад
Perfect work from this lecturer
@haydenyuan4720
@haydenyuan4720 4 года назад
Even though Professor Zwiebach has a strong foreign accent, I still loved this lecture since he made the lesson so digestible and explained photoelectric effect so clearly!
@athul_c1375
@athul_c1375 3 года назад
Actually the foreign accent helps
@pubgplayer1720
@pubgplayer1720 2 года назад
The foreign accent makes it clearer than an American accent imo lol
@fjs1111
@fjs1111 Год назад
@@pubgplayer1720 Agree totally
@abdulwasaye8511
@abdulwasaye8511 Месяц назад
Look who is talking about foreign accents 😅
@amritsagarkar7899
@amritsagarkar7899 3 года назад
We are given 1.5 hrs lecture on photoelectric effect. With stuff like stopping potential, saturation current, 7 graphs, requirement of photoelectric effect.
@sebjuv123
@sebjuv123 5 лет назад
Excellent lecturer
@jameshay8595
@jameshay8595 2 года назад
This is great to have this opportunity to view without cost.
@sneakypress
@sneakypress Год назад
Just keep in mind, people (at the beginning of this video, when the Prof. discusses Hertzs’ experiment), that electrons had not yet been discovered ! 😯
@mingyuanshao7876
@mingyuanshao7876 2 года назад
That's a perfect speech!
@leopardtiger1022
@leopardtiger1022 2 года назад
I like mit lectures.
@JettixX
@JettixX Месяц назад
Excellent
@nathanherling9836
@nathanherling9836 8 месяцев назад
Very nice ...
@kabandajamir9844
@kabandajamir9844 Год назад
So nice
@kabandajamir9844
@kabandajamir9844 Год назад
Thanks sir
@yoavtamir7707
@yoavtamir7707 6 лет назад
good!
@brendastephanie1403
@brendastephanie1403 7 месяцев назад
12:43 My neurodivergent brain can only focus on the dust alien head on the board
@arindamgoswami4587
@arindamgoswami4587 5 лет назад
superlike for the awesome way of solve.....you are awesome sir..respect from india
@Photonphantom
@Photonphantom 25 дней назад
Yes, he is a nice teacher , I, too, appreciate his lecture .
@Mdsahil-zg7bn
@Mdsahil-zg7bn 9 месяцев назад
thats an ausome lecture i just loved it from india ❤
@zhanyichng6044
@zhanyichng6044 4 года назад
2π = 6 gang 20:34
@manudehanoi
@manudehanoi 3 года назад
should spend more time on explaining the experimental setup. How the electron energy is measured is more important than how it's calculated. That's especially true considering that measuring energy (as I understand) is used to calculate h and not the other way around as the calculus seems to show
@andrewstone8999
@andrewstone8999 3 года назад
The electron energy is measured by measuring how far the electron is deflected by a magnetic field.
@athul_c1375
@athul_c1375 3 года назад
It can be measured by applying reverse potential between electrodes and measuring the stoping potential The KEmax = eVo
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
@@andrewstone8999 The wrong answer got more upvotes. I must be on the internet. :-)
@rimshashafique2757
@rimshashafique2757 9 месяцев назад
In the exercise while calculating the speed from where did this (mec^2)(v^2 / c^2) came?
@adriangheorghe2327
@adriangheorghe2327 5 дней назад
Dl Profesor! Dumneavoastra sustineti hotarat ca fotonul incident in metal, poate sa interactioneze direct cu electronul cvasuliber din metal. Si in aceasta interactiune foton-electron, explicata de Einstein, nu este obligatoriu sa se respecte conservarea impulsului si energiei, pe durata interactiunii, asa cum este explicata in cazul efectului Compton Mr. Professor! You firmly support that the photon incident in the metal can directly interact with the quasi-free electron in the metal. And in this photon-electron interaction, explained by Einstein, it is not mandatory to observe the conservation of momentum and energy, during the interaction, as is explained in the case of the Compton effect
@cafe-tomate
@cafe-tomate 2 года назад
In 3) he says "magnitude of the current is proportional to the light intensity" but the formula gives E(electron) = E(photon) - W which is not proportionality!
@hemanthsaikumar
@hemanthsaikumar Год назад
Magnitude and Energy are 2 different things. Magnitude is proportional to intensity and Energy is given as difference of photon energy and work function
@brendastephanie1403
@brendastephanie1403 7 месяцев назад
Magnitude of the current it's the *number* of electrons per second. And energy it's the kinetic energy, proportional to the *velocity* of the electrons
@adriangheorghe2327
@adriangheorghe2327 3 дня назад
Eu am ajuns la concluzia ca efectul fotoelectric este totusi produs prin inductie electromagnetica. Fotonul incident in metal se structureaza ca o unda stationara de mare amplitudine. Unda stationara se comporta ca un curent electric produs de o singura sarcina intro spira. La spargerea undei stationare, apare prin inductie electromagnetica un impuls electric care accelereaza sarcina din imediata vecinatate. Doar asa se asigura conservarea impulsului si energiei fotonului incident in metal, pe durata interactiunii fotonului cu electronul. I came to the conclusion that the photoelectric effect is still produced by electromagnetic induction. The incident photon in the metal is structured as a high-amplitude stationary wave. The standing wave behaves like an electric current produced by a single charge in the coil. When the standing wave breaks, an electric impulse appears through electromagnetic induction that accelerates the load in the immediate vicinity. This is the only way to ensure the preservation of the momentum and energy of the incident photon in the metal, during the interaction of the photon with the electron.
@marialiyubman
@marialiyubman 4 года назад
Doesn’t this experiment prove that you can create a powerful electromagnet using metal and light? And that you could technically create electricity using laser beams to replace what we know now as generators. Is this the zero emissions energy we’re talking about?
@devnampriyapriyadarshi1331
@devnampriyapriyadarshi1331 4 года назад
I don't think so. Because the current here is too little to do that. But Photo-diode does the same thing( Solar Cell ). Every one uses them.
@raatkin6329
@raatkin6329 3 года назад
the results of this experiment are on the atomic scale, energy on the order of 100-1000s of eV's. 1 Joule is the power to lift 1 kg 1 meter and is about 10^19 eV's. 1 kilowatt hour is over 1million joules, Its not really a straight forward way of energy production. Alternately this is basically what sun is to manufactured solar cells which is not zero emission to make them. I guess the real answer is in the details of how you do it, and if you know a way, good luck
@dontacomx3794
@dontacomx3794 3 года назад
You are far off on the energy scale. This principle is used to understand how solar cells work but the energy necessary to create a strong enough magnetic current is far too great that would defeat the purpose.
@adriangheorghe2327
@adriangheorghe2327 2 месяца назад
It bothers me that the energy of the photon is written when h.v, when , when h.n. When it would be perfectly normal to write h.f. Where f comes from the frequency of the photon. And then it bothers me that during the interaction of the incident photon with the electron in the metal, the conservation of momentum and energy is not respected. To obtain the energy balance, the extraction work Wex is added to the equation. Something that is a subsequent effect of the interaction of the photon with the electron in the metal. The mechanism of the photoelectric effect is based on an electric impulse of induction that occurs during the rapid damping of the standing wave, of high amplitude, constituted by the constructive interference of the wave titles from the component of the wave packet of the incident photon in the metal. The high-amplitude wave of the photon refracted in the metal appears after the contraction of the photon both longitudinally and transversely. proportional to the index of refraction of the metal, which is of the order of tens, and its refraction at 360 degrees, in the atomic environment, of high energy density. The stationary wave, of high amplitude, propagates on the circle of the Rfm metal photon radius, with a speed of C/137 (m/s) and behaves like an elementary electric charge, which produces a current in the coil. When the high-amplitude standing wave breaks, the electric impulse appears, through electromagnetic induction, which accelerates the electron in the immediate vicinity.
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
Yes, that was a lot of nonsense. ;-)
@beautyofeverything7444
@beautyofeverything7444 2 года назад
I came here to understand class 11 chemistry.😝
@ChessCube2
@ChessCube2 2 года назад
Go back to your textbook now
@beautyofeverything7444
@beautyofeverything7444 2 года назад
@@ChessCube2 The whole problem is my text is super-confusing.
@youcanknowanything8489
@youcanknowanything8489 Год назад
and were blessed with so much more👍
@vasdgod
@vasdgod Год назад
Try to derive the schrödinger equation its possible using class 11 12 physics
@Krish_202
@Krish_202 Год назад
​@@vasdgod first you learn to write schrödinger's equation
@mohphyyu
@mohphyyu 5 лет назад
Are there lectures in undergraduate or graduate programs?
@iaexo
@iaexo 3 года назад
Mohammad Ali undergraduate I believe
@putinscat1208
@putinscat1208 Год назад
Remember the experiment where you take a charge from infinity to measure the Electric field? If 2 charges are separated by very long distance, because of the minimum energy possible, does the Electric field have a limit?
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
The electric field gets weaker as the charges are being separated.
@putinscat1208
@putinscat1208 5 дней назад
@@lepidoptera9337 Mathematically, yes. But what if the charge is a light-year out?
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
@@putinscat1208 Then you will have to wait a year. ;-)
@nicktohzyu
@nicktohzyu 6 лет назад
does MIT advocate the memorization and examination on constant values? is the value of h not provided on tests/exams?
@mitocw
@mitocw 6 лет назад
+nickt The easiest way to find out is to look at the exams that are published on the full OCW course site here: ocw.mit.edu/8-04S16. Formulas are provided.
@nicktohzyu
@nicktohzyu 6 лет назад
thanks. btw will the answer keys to exams and assignments be released in the future?
@mitocw
@mitocw 6 лет назад
That is up to the discretion of the instructor. If the course currently uses those exams and assignments, the instructor is highly unlikely to give answers.
@aryanchoudhury7859
@aryanchoudhury7859 20 дней назад
he's good but expected more from MIT lectures!
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
Undergrad lectures are pretty even among all academic institutions. There is only so much an average student can absorb. You have to keep in mind that you are typically taking four to six courses in parallel and there are weekly homework assignments for at least those that you have to pass to get your degree.
@kaushaljain5999
@kaushaljain5999 4 года назад
9:42 to 9:49 You said intensity is function of frequency in black body radiation. But in photoelectric effect (PEE) energy of electrons depend upon frequency rather than light. Why this two different thing_ if intensity is function of frequency then in PEE energy of electron should depend upon both frequency and intensity. Explain this!
@green0563
@green0563 3 года назад
Intensity is a function of frequency in black body radiation, not in every kind of radiation. In the photoelectric experiment we can vary the intensity without varying the frequency, we have the tools to do so.
@brandomiranda6703
@brandomiranda6703 6 лет назад
How does one know when things are relativistic vs when they are not?
@klmnts
@klmnts 6 лет назад
Roughly when the kinetic energy is on the same order as the rest energy, then it starts to become relativistic.
@brandomiranda6703
@brandomiranda6703 6 лет назад
is that equivalent to saying if the speed is in the order of magnitude of the speed of light? (sorry I very rusty on some of my physics, but not rusty on my linear algebra I believe)
@klmnts
@klmnts 6 лет назад
Yes, roughly starting from 0.1c and up, you may want to use special relativity.
@lsbrother
@lsbrother 6 лет назад
Things are always relativistic! But for speeds much less than c you can use the approximation which is ordinary classical theory and get very accurate results - you can get to the moon that way!
@sentimentalperson8793
@sentimentalperson8793 4 года назад
as a highschool student i have to work this for my exam. it all exist in our book. isn't it too much for grade 12?
@mwaleed2082
@mwaleed2082 4 года назад
This is university level.
@MrBeen992
@MrBeen992 4 года назад
This is in my 6th grade book.
@KhawOfficial
@KhawOfficial 3 года назад
I'm doing this in year 12 too
@isohel9889
@isohel9889 Год назад
No it's not if you are in india
@pratikchaudhari5371
@pratikchaudhari5371 4 года назад
Love you sir from INDIA 🇮🇳
@amritkumarpatel5717
@amritkumarpatel5717 3 года назад
I am INDIAN TOO!!!
@abhinandanmehra7765
@abhinandanmehra7765 2 года назад
I am Indian too
@iozarslan
@iozarslan 3 года назад
My country wants this lecture at highschool...im bored of my mother language because of working hard at it so im here...kolay gelsin...
@akshatsharma8151
@akshatsharma8151 Год назад
Is this really University Physics?
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
Yes, albeit the American undergrad version is often slower than the European one. If you want to go faster, study in England or Germany. Don't know about France (never been in a French university), but it's probably more intense than the US as well.
@felixfrandes6136
@felixfrandes6136 3 года назад
I assume this is the first lesson in MIT because this seems like easy stuff you do when you're 16 in the UK so if you are 18 and still doing this i hope it gets more intresting than just this.
@lorax121323
@lorax121323 Год назад
If you've ever looked at any of the MIT OpenCourseware material, you should know that the lectures are the easy part, and that the difficulty lies in the homework assignments and tests. In contrast, in shitty universities, lectures are the difficult part and homeworks are the easy part, even though many students will fail to get through even the easiest possible assignments that are almost exactly like the textbook's example problems.
@MikehMike01
@MikehMike01 21 день назад
@@lorax121323correct, lectures are supposed to set you up for self-study via assignments and reading
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
You are doing a few things that you did in high school again in beginners courses in university. Double slit, photoelectric effect, Newtonian mechanics (but it rapidly becomes Lagrange and Hamilton)
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
@@lorax121323 We generally had a 50% homework requirement. I was always around 60-80% except in continuum mechanics. That crap just beat the hell out of my brain. I hate stress tensors with a vengeance. ;-)
@hadlevick
@hadlevick 5 лет назад
Could the simultaneous be a number?
@mukundanm2666
@mukundanm2666 3 года назад
Me after watching this (high schooler from india preparing for jee): So this is what they teach even in mit in first year huh??
@sanchescosta2398
@sanchescosta2398 3 года назад
not in the first year, but u can take some basis
@babes7797
@babes7797 2 года назад
Bro u are kid...right now......so don't take these great lectures............ 😏......
@babes7797
@babes7797 2 года назад
And I am also from india.....and Zwieback is a great professor.....think before saying something about any teacher.....
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
Yes, but this is the easiest of the stuff that you have to learn in the first year. The first year is generally not too hard in terms of intellectual difficulty, but you aren't getting much sleep because you have homework assignments in four to six parallel courses that are due. The second to fourth years have less homework but it's considerably harder material.
@dr.shahedjaberthenerd8544
@dr.shahedjaberthenerd8544 2 года назад
Am watching from Palestine✔🙂
@MikehMike01
@MikehMike01 21 день назад
no one asked
@hadlevick
@hadlevick 5 лет назад
Could be that the being itself be the 1 that precedes any mathematism...?
@x-girlsobasso6278
@x-girlsobasso6278 6 лет назад
o unlikes woww
@ayush3717
@ayush3717 2 года назад
We are reading it in class 12th😂
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 5 дней назад
As you should. The photoelectric effect has been part of the high school curriculum for at least 40 years.
@StarNumbers
@StarNumbers 4 года назад
Silly. It requires photon's energy to be split based on some hidden variable (work function). But most importantly it ignores the conservation of momentum, which postulates that the energy of colliding bodies is distributed equally between the bodies. The work function mechanism is fantasy considering that in gas the absorption of light works over windows of particular frequencies. Einstein did not uncover'or explain some fundamental relationship of matter. My guess is that a photoelectric cell's efficiency will level off at 50% in deference to the conservation of mo. My bet is that the energy of photo-electrons will not increase linearly with impinging photons' energy and do so *forever* -- as the professor's presentation suggests.
@StarNumbers
@StarNumbers 4 года назад
@Hugh Jones You can talk the talk ...
@achalsinghal7115
@achalsinghal7115 4 года назад
And what exactly makes you more qualified than a MIT professor?
@StarNumbers
@StarNumbers 4 года назад
@@achalsinghal7115 Because you (and maybe others) cannot respond on the basis of merit. A person could spend a lot of money getting a law degree but that does not mean he/she must win every case. In your pathetic case, you would think one must accept the lawyer's statements without rebuttal. Fool and his money will soon part.
@gkollias14
@gkollias14 4 года назад
what is your 'bet', 'guess' based on? My guess is that a bet or guess of something will never be accepted as proof to anything, not to mention a scientific law.
@aryasingh8173
@aryasingh8173 3 года назад
interesting, would like to know more about it. Do you have a website?
@sharmashubham432
@sharmashubham432 4 года назад
we can solve numerical in a better and easier way without using hbar and etc
@aadityaphadnis8399
@aadityaphadnis8399 3 года назад
Yes but hbar is much more useful in Quantum mechanics.
@skiraf
@skiraf 9 месяцев назад
This series is better than anything on Netflix. It's almost as interesting as a tweet from President Trump.
@TastyTesticlesTube
@TastyTesticlesTube 8 месяцев назад
Love this, I am currently getting my 7th Ph.D, this is now my Quantum Physics Ph.D
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