Hi Guys, I've seen your comments. I agree, the fluid is most likely water made as byproduct from burning hydrogen. When I made the video I didn't think of that, even tough I have talked about it in other videos. 🤦
If it burns Hydrogen then the by product or exhaust is WATER VAPOUR, which can collect in the exhaust system and be passed as droplets or a stream of water. No biggie, but what is the engine connected to by belts at the back?
@@vinodkaveripatnam7000, possible, but details are a bit light on. It claims 160 hp (119kw) and 170ft/lbs (230 Nm) of torque but at what RPM? What is the fuel economy at the rated figures? If it is connected to a gearbox and drivetrain will it actually move the vehicle at low RPM or are you going to have to rev it right up to get it to move? Or will it just stall all the time? Remember, these figures are just claims, there is no real evidence of the engines performance yet, plus many other questions. I like the idea of the engine and the Hydrogen fuel, so I will keep an eye on the project but Chris has said that none of the released data has changed for some time, so we will see.
Well im certainly not going to say its not water because i really have no idea however.....those white absorbant cloths on the floor appear to be placed there to absorb that fluid and the cloths also look exactly like the cloths used in a spill containment kit which are designed to wick oil but not water. They will literally float on water while wicking out any oils in or on the water. So if those are in fact what they appear to be and are in fact placed there to absorb that fluid then i would assume its not water but again, due to the unknown variables, I really have no clue if that is an accurate assumption.
I almost have to think he's trolling us. Fuel? He said it burns hydrogen. As if hydrogen could be a liquid at room temperature and pressure 🙄. In the words of the worst president in history, "c'mon man!"
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I want a dual propeller airplane, with one of these engines in each wing. The weight to power ratio is ideal for aircrafts. Low maintenance and fuel efficient. *A dream come true for general aviation!*
Looks and sounds like it's being driven by compressed air via the red hose around 500 rpm. Possibly a mechanical model to test the interaction of moving pieces at low speed.
I think the fluid might be water.. Since most hydrogen engines create water as a by product. But we most likely wont know until they clarify what the fluid is.
This fluid is not an only one question to this demo and even not the main one. Main one is what a pulley and belt on it in the back of the engine? My feeling that it's some sort of electric motor driving all this demonstration...
Most likely a money grab. There are several things that do not add up, but worst are the "piston" surface area and the cooling. There is so little "piston" surface area that achieving the claimed torque, the "cylinder pressure" pushing the "piston" should be enermous. And, as the combustion heat can only be dissipated through either complex innards or/and short area of the block, no wonder it only runs a short burst in the video. It may just be producing enough torque to turn itself over. Most likely that is the case. So, at first it sounded promising. Now, until proven further, it is a hoax. But it is an interesting new way of thinking what an ICE can/could be. And please, forget the hydrogen with any type of an ICE, it further makes it seem as a hoax to fool greens. Hydrogen has no future as a fuel for internal combustion engines. It is just too difficult and expensive to store, and way too expensive to produce. A dead end like electric cars. Let us not go that way.
the ONLY aspect of it that i do like is the split cycle concept. personally i think thats the way to go if the ice is to hang on. forget the tired old 200 year old "steam engine with carb" idea. its outdated. past its use by date. suck squeeze bang blow, otto, you stole beau de rochas cycle, called it your own... and well, were still stuck with it. and its holding us back. once upon a time, everyone knew that engines ran on heat. and we had progress, in leaps and bounds. now we are taught they run on "fuel"... and progress has stagnated for a century. can also blame commercialism for that, the insane urge for growth, profit... sell as many of it as possible. not because its good, or its better... but because it has to be sold. why change? its most definitely a hoax. as soon as i see flashy aero style fittings (not cheap) fancy bearings, custom parts, and what look like reasonably well funded labs... i turn off. if they dont have a running prototype, slapped together in a garage from junk, staying up til 2am for 3 years to do so, that straight away proves their claims... where did all the money come from? talking the talk. too much of it going on these days, and no-ones walking the walk.
It's BS my dude, what you are looking at is steam coming out, and if you look at the video, behind the unit, it is being spun by a pulley and belt behind it that connects to the metal cabinet, where they probably have an electric motor... I smell fake BS
Hi Or is it lubricant leaking? Now a man has stood beside it to give some scale it would seem its swept volume isn't huge and the combustion camber is rather small. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see this making 50 Hp let alone 160, and that power at its rated speed 25000 would equal a torque of only 45 Nm looking at the rendering it appears it makes one combustion event per revolution like a single cylinder two stroke. I would like to know how its going to be so much more efficient if someone could explain please, also it has a lot of metal to warm up with a small combustion chamber. Sorry I can't see this working out but hope I'm wrong waiting for quater 2 update
when you see the flame coming out the exhaust ports, that's a sign it's at red line, ( Max RPM ) Not Idle ( the video clip is the omega at a Pathetic Red-Line on Petrol. how do i know that? , do the math......good thing they switched to hydrogen. although a tank of hydrogen starts with a substantial energy deficit to make up; so, for any broad market outside Iceland, i would alternately recommend CNG or synth-gas over hydrogen.
This is nothing new. The engine never runs self powered in this clip it is being spun up by compressed air and only fire a few times The fluid leaking out around the tubes is oil
The fact that there's an air hose attached, I assume it's leaking oil (as they're using oil absorbent pads to soak up the mess) and we only see flames come from the exhaust a couple of times while it's "running", tells me that it never ran under its own power. The engine, as it may, appears to have a long way to go, before it can even produce enough power to run on its own, much less power anything else!
3:06 this is an incredibly amateurish and inconclusive video of the engine. What is the belt drive for? Is it driving some device ? Or is it driving the "engine" with a hidden power source?
The basic design is very unique and definitely holds promise. However, I do see a couple of issues that will make its adoption rather difficult. The main one is the tight tolerances. Without any type of seals between the case and the rotating assemblies there will either be losses or the potential for binding and seizing it up. Losses will cause very high emissions should they use traditional gasoline as fuel. My best guess is they'll have to create seals similar to the rotary Wankel design that was used in the Mazda. One thing I did notice on the engine specs that I think is unrealistic is the torque and max rpm figures. 160hp yet can also create 170 pound feet of torque would have to come at under 5,000rpm. After that the torque would have to continue to drop all the way down to a mere 33 pound feet at the max rpm figure of 25,000rpm. For any internal combustion engine that's a rather unusual and perhaps unusable range. I'd like to see a REAL dyno chart showing the hp and torque curves.
Thanks for the update on that engine. I love the idea but think that correcting the existing rotary engine has the most promise as it went into production with some major design flaws as this guy points out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GarCJ4zw_mk.html. Now in order for me to be able to make this engine I will have to get a 4th or even 5th axis CNC mill at a cost of $55k and up which I don't currently have at the moment. But I figure once I show a working prototype of Meyer's technology I just might be able to make a deal with those companies that are already heading in the hydrogen direction. Once I have the machines I need I will start making this engine with all of the major design flaws taken out.
I am intrigued, are you going to follow his improvements or do you also have your own ideas? A local college might help you out with the CNC too, you just need to find a rotary-enthusiast professor who's willing to let you put your name alongside theirs
Assuming it lives up to the claims, I’d love to know how this might be packaged into a vehicle - any comments from them on the power take off and coupling to a transmission, what about cooling and lubrication, how about fuel supply and engine management. Sounds amazing but a long way still to go?
Maybe I missed something mate, but it stands to reason that if an engine is fueled by hydrogen, one of the main outputs will by WATER!!! (If not THE main output!)
@@ralphhines7903 Yeah! That horrible and nasty chemical called "water"! I'll bet that 99.99% of people on the earth are completely unaware of the fact that H²O (a.k.a. "water") is THE #1 element that impacts _"Climate Change!"_ Yeah! I said it... and it's 100% true!
Looks like lube oil leaking. They definitely have a lot of pressure lubed areas, I wonder if it will use internal passages in production vs the web of push locks. I don’t see any signs of air cooling like fins. Maybe that’s a compressed air line going into it to aid in cooling? Maybe efficiency is high enough very little cooling is needed? Compressed air starting or is that what the pulley and belt are for (starting and maybe load as well)? Last, am I looking at it wrong or do the diagrams look like they’re backwards with exhaust coming from where I would think the intake would be? I would love to see what the displacement and comp ratio are. Is this engine essentially supercharged by design with the intake side forcing air into the combustion chamber; does the cold side displace the same or more volume as the hot side?
WOW dude it is hydrogen powered and air-cooled... When you burn hydrogen the emissions or the exhaust comes in the form of water! I'm having a real hard time believing that you didn't already know that!
Burning hydrogen is an idiotic idea when using a fuel cell is so much more efficient. Also with the advancements in battery technology their making hydrogen is pointless anyway
That was not running on combustion. It was being run as a motor with pressurized air. You can see the actual gauges for crying out loud. Nothing burger.
Who's like it's more just for a small yard equipment and compressors at the moment that's even a huge jump rather you tighter than gas and anyway they can all the lawn mowers and all the compressive in generators that will save a lot right there
It "runs" on compressed air (red supply hose) The original patent from Walter Müller, "Der Eintaktmotor" , (Single stroke engine) is from 1997, has since expired.
1997? try 1897. or earlier. shares certain traits with rotary engines from over a century ago... which also proved to be unfeasible... browns rotary engine, hults rotary engine, though admittedly it has only a passing resemblance to a mcewan rotamota... 150 years of people trying rotary engines and all we have is wankels and turbines...
I sent them credentials, wanting to buy 3 of them for use in Texas. I told them I'd pay cash and even sent a credit letter from my bank. I never heard a word...
I'm a military supplier with a CAGE CODE. The most exciting thing I sell the US military is my own magazine for an "Experimental Weapon" system. After rigorous testing, my mags were found to be better than OE. I'd hoped to use 3 of these in a rare factory lightweight Porsche I have, but have since decided It would be more exciting to lift a Sharwerks 997 Turbo S and try some off-road races. I've been IMSA/SSCA eligible for nearly 30 years and have a number of other types under my belt. If it worked for me there, I was thinking about APUs for military vehicles so you had more electricity available.
The engine is not running. It's being turned by an electric motor thru the belt and pulley. They're trying to start it but it is not cooperating. The spark/ignition timing is off. Also I'm not certain the rotors are timed properly to promote the compression of the air/fuel mix. From what I've seen this project either has incompetent leaders or the engineers are just ignorant of how to properly troubleshoot the engine to get it running.
I believe that's light weight oil leaking as there are no seals and they are still working on that issue. It starts to seal as the engine gets hot and components expand. These component may be replaced with Titanium as it doesn't expand as much when hot.
i am pretty sure the fluid is un-burned fuel. ( maybe stop with the omega one videos, and let Aston get back to what they are good at ) turbine manufacturers need to understand that the process of designing an ICE is fundamentally different than designing a turbine ...otherwise what is it then? it's not going to even get close to 25Krpm on petrol, is what i told you shortly before you figured that out yourselves... so don't start an ICE design by throwing over 100 years of ICE R&D out the window.
I make video on the engine because they ask me to😂😂 the CEO of astreon has emailed me multiple times giving me more info, if yoi go thru my videos i do clear up what the fluid is and give updates on the engine
allot of RPM with tight tolerances , Could the by product be cooling the combustion process? Acting as lube? I can’t see how that’s going to make allot of torque .
Looks 99% like fuel or Lube oil, main assumption due to the (orangish*) color underneath the upper ring, and the absorption Matt’s on the ground, Highly doubt this is run on Hydrogen as there are also Fuel or oil filters piped in on the right side of the engine, Ive never worked with hydrogen but my assumption would be that they have to Use Hardlines in and have way more fire protection or suppression in the shop, as it is Highly volatile (gaseous**?)
I suspect that when the motor is connected to a vehicle and put through real operation tests we’ll know what this motor can and cannot do. The motor needs to have drivetrain resistance with a average sized and weight vehicle, city and highway driving. Let’s see how this motor endures it’s first 100,000 kilometers. It also needs to be put through the climate tests; rain, desert, winter. 👍🏻
Quick question if the engine revs up to 20k+ how could the horsepower possibly be less than the torque measure.. horsepower is defined as torque*rpm/5252. Should it not be 170*20000/5252= 647hp?
Question, why is it running of compressed air? Why did it quickly stop when the air was turned of if friction was reduced? Why cant it draw its own air from atmospheric pressure?
if the current pace of revealed development proceeds then there is a fundamental design flaw in the engine. If it works, show it, if not, just continue on the same way and string along investors.
Looks 99% like fuel or Lube oil, main assumption due to the (orangish*) color underneath the upper ring (in addition to the two Oil jugs in the background) and the absorption Matt’s on the ground, Highly doubt this is run on Hydrogen as there are also Fuel or oil filters piped in on the right side of the engine, Ive never worked with hydrogen but my assumption would be that they have to Use Hardlines in and have way more fire protection or suppression in the shop, as it is Highly volatile (gaseous**?)
They are injecting water to cool it as they are testing it. Timing is key No nitrogen is key It probably too advanced Yes, when heated up, the tolerance will change Hho is going to ignite all though the engine Probably a valve has to be installed.
If it is water as people are suggesting, that is a lot of water. Water from hydrogen combustion is depleted of deuterium which makes it like the fountain of youth water. Anybody with generator using that engine would have a lot of good water.
Too much squish, too much friction and wear. Inadequate cooling. Not enough airflow for claimed rpm. Would need huge pressure charging to achieve any worthwhile BMEP, and then the losses would be significant. A hugely expensive product to produce as well.
Yeh rite, Look at the surface area of the TOP of a piston that the expanding gases push against. Now look at the tiny area fo the 'sticky-out-thingy' that the gases push against in this so called engine. i.e. no power.
This is one of the most ridiculous demo videos I have ever seen. You would be better off not showing anything. We have detailed CAD models in 3D but NOT a working model? Sounds like a nice chance to get a bunch of investors to lay down money on an idea - run up the stock price and realize it's not feasible. All these specs but no working model that even comes close. It looks like someone's garage shop. A fool is born every minute.
I don't think this engine is worth developing if it doesn't run on other than hydrogen Hydrogen is already dying cuz it costs too much compared to gasoline or diesel or electricity or even natural gas !
