The planet builders stargate - concluding SGU 

Same 👍

it was just starting to stretch its legs and then in the space of a single episode it was gone. i personally enjoyed it being a bit more raunchy too BUT IMHO its best not to so the whole family can enjoy stargate.

they are type level 6 civilization

Controversially, universe is my favourite and I spent years wondering how they could survive the cliff hanger. Omg talking about it makes me want to watch it again

@@laggytim SG1, SGA, and SGU all need to be completely embraced in order to create a successful stargate continuation/revival. SGU's 'time' is one of my favorite stargate episodes.

Yes, but the actors are 14 years older now, the Eli character won't be 26, he'll be 40, or 42 if and when it returns. Plus the actor David Blue is like slim and fit now. So it is a fun thought but I think that it is doubtful to get a continuation. Unlikely even, which is just a crying shame.

Well Amazon owns it now. But its likely to be on there add on MGM

@@fex144 Fixable. Put the show in modern day, then show the SGU cliffhanger resolution in flashbacks peppered throughout the new show. Resolve the original show, minimize the CGI de-aging, and then make the new series about the Destiny mission findings and how the SGC is changing its purpose into turning Earth into a spacefaring civilization. Tight, clean, economical, and also tension-building by not giving away the resolution in one episode. You can juggle the New Avalon Alliance storyline with The Builders storyline easy. Also, there's no way they haven't found the ZPM manufacturing system on Atlantis with the entire SGC exploring the city on Earth. Hell, the database would've been copied to the SGC database on Day 2.

@@biff322 IMO more like the pods are such an early design they dont stop ageing just keep people alive add on the destiny having another FTL drive blowing out at the very last iota of the trip and they end up drifting for 10 ish years then skip to the destiny 10 ish years later diving into a star to refuel in modern 4k CGI.

I immensely enjoyed SGU when it came out. The change in formula for how the show worked I felt was a great change instead of usually being slightly connected from episode to episode they were all connected which made the show and universe feel more alive to me.

SGU took a little time to find its footing, but SG1 and SGA also had duff episodes early on. Unfortunately, SGU got cut off when it was just getting into its stride.

I think part of the problem is how woke it was all about everybody screw in each other’s wise and stuff. Having said that, I still watched every episode damn them for canceling it.

Same SGU was the camels back for me and how I watch TV show. Im unlikely to watch series with plot arcs unless the finale is out. TV has been in a tightening noose where producers have created a downward cycle for new shows that have to have ALL the views. Why bother getting into a show that hasn't had a finale and will just string you along only to get cancelled leaving every plot unresolved because from the get go they artificially tried spreading it out the good stuff with filler over seasons that will never even exist. Now we get Dumb stupid background radiation message plot-arc teasing.

The best stories are slow burns. It’s necessary to get the level of detail and intimacy that make them great stories.

Universe killed both shows. Body Swapping Cheating A_S Political Drama.

that last episode was the very definition of all the stargate series. it was totally beautiful.

The comics are somewhat cannon, and they do explore the ship more.

That should have been a major part of the show more then it was. They were in a ship runnigg by a fluke 10percrtn it’s capability

Who knows what they would find, they could have all the parts in world to fix it and become fully operational

@@mlua02 In the comics, they did find all the spare parts to repair the ship including dozens of repair bots

​@@Batalia122 Not to mention actual living Ancients onboard who were part of the engineer team that helped build the Destiny.

They didn't just build the planet, they placed a ~~star system~~ in the Destiny's flight path. What irks me is that planets aren't really efficient when it comes to providing a habitable environment. You'd get much more living space out of the material if you used it to construct something like a topopolis around a star, like in Dennis E. Taylor's "Heaven’s River". Even the star isn't necessary once you have fusion power - you could just build a few hundred trillion O'Neil cylinders and let them drift from one star system's Oort cloud to another. That's what makes the artificial planet and its star from SGU feel like an art project to me, or a religious / cultural artefact. And that makes it even more ominous.

@@BrokenCurtain - Pretty sure these builders weren't constructing star systems and planets for themselves. It looks like they were seeding life and waiting to see what became of it. The long game... one that spans billions of years. Note that if they built what you described, then those things would need to be constantly maintained. But if they merely drop a habitable planet in place and seed it with the beginnings of life, then they can walk away and maybe check on it every billion years or so. Sort of a cosmic experiment... a petri dish on the grand scale.

@@BrokenCurtain - PS - Men in Black... laughs as aliens flip entire galaxies around in a game of marbles.

@@BrokenCurtain The planet builders are like a version of the corporation that builds planets from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy but the destiny crew saunter in and lay claim to a world whose function is possibly a preserve world for endangered species of limited toolmanship (what we would call animals or species that don't use tools yet) or a experiment world where species are let loose by their species's science class.

yes I want to see what a furling looks like for god sakes

those alien are type 6 civilization planet creation technology

Yes! And to Jack’s son!

@@jazzk4072 You mean from "100 days"? Is it cannon that she was pregnant or that it was a son?

@@johnassal5838 hey John. It’s just my guess by way of intuition and her body language. As a teacher reading body language becomes instinctive. That actress was amazing. 😊

Honestly. Fk Amazon. They are just as bad as Syfy. 3 books left to go in the expanse, and they just end it? Bleh.

Amazon's track record as late has been complete and utter horse shit.

First season was horrible. To much melodrama and gay staff, too little sf. SGU was canceled as it started to be interesting and going back to the roots, i.e. s-f actually.

Prematurely bro? Theres like 15 years worth of stargate series.

And Col Young

​@@GreyDeathVaccine ur wrong. It was great. It just didnt have the comedy and brightly lit set that SG1 and SGA had. Different feel. Different setting. Different cast. Different look. Etc. It took too many by surprise and not enough gave it the chance it deserved. The writing was great, the acting top notch. The creativity and drama was there. There was nothing wrong with SGU to deseeve cancellation. Fans were just too expectant and entitled. They wanted SGA/SGU again, but got something different.

Eli Wallace is an absolute! Despite his character development starting off kinda meh, the writers really gave him the spotlight towards middle S2, and I know he solved his cryo pod in time, I have to believe in him coming back, should the planets line up and all the details get hammered out just right. Oh, and Grier needs to stay, too. He balances out Young and Rush, in a Daniel Jackson sorta way.

neat.

Same

I agree I think the ancients could be there cheering their descendants on to find the answers they were looking for

A bright white light and a wavy signal that was identical to the signal from the beginning of time. It's almost like Destiny was a very apt name for that particular ship.

@@thomasbarca9297 I'm inclined to think (just my head cannon) the entire story arc of SG/1/A/U/+ is the ascended ancients quietly allying with the Tauri to fix all their mistakes essentially. They appear to have been the original source of the replicators both in Pegasus and Milky Way as it was most likely an Ancient who'd returned from Pegasus that created Reese who then adapted her tech to create the block type replicators. Then inexplicably despite everything else being picked bare when SG1 arrived they see Reese perfectly preserved or perhaps recently restored and left for them to find... Or look at when they went looking for a possible Ori supergate only to instead stumble on the "Son of Anubis" Kalek _just_ when it would help them counter the priors with what they learned while *also* cleaning up after Anubis. 🤔 Clearly by then the writers had decided to make the ex machina an integral part of the in universe story and taking ownership of the idea that things like Jackson finding that quantum mirror and learning the address the Goauld were launching their attack from was more than just luck or plot armor. But we can take it further. For instance there must be multiple reasons for the Ascended ancients need for plausible deniability. In the Ori conflict it be something like a treaty obligation. Adria was largely only doing what Merlin had done 1000 years earlier but with the Ori backing her up the "Others" couldn't do much...directly. If they had been more open then it would've freed the Ori to act more directly in the MW too. This would explain a lot and even open up other angles. Look at Red Sky when they accidentally make that Asgard protected planet's sun go red and almost kills everyone. The episode implies that the last ditch 1% attempt by the SGC failed so it must've been the Asgard using that effort as a pretext to step in... Only what it it was the Ascended instead and it was to indirectly send a message to the Asgard. Those greys aren't dumb it it was probably clear to them that something must've been up as soon as O'Niell was surprisingly able to access the ancients knowledge if unconsciously. Then them calling their ships O'Niell and Jackson (which is quite weird if you think about it) wasn't just in appreciation for help but to send a nod and a wink at the Ancients themselves. It's not long after that the Asgard suddenly exit while gifting the Tauri *everything* they had. I don't think that's coincidence AND I don't think they actually killed themselves. By then it's clear the ancients have some agenda playing out with the Tauri that involved exposing the Agard to the Ori, the only faction as powerful or more frightening than the ancients. Plus the biggest existential threat in the history of the Asgard before that turned out to be a byproduct of a toy made by Reese in turn made by the ancients. I mean even ten thousand years after they ascended the Asgard were still living in the shadow of the ancients and getting there butts kicked because of it. So being wicked smart they decide to emulate the way the early ancient "Altairans" left their home and went *way* off. But first they make sure the Ascended don't have any further need of them by handing everything they had (but that the ascended couldn't simply _give_ ) to the Tauri. The fun part is that you can even trace it all back to when the ancients were first starting to ascend every so often back before Atlantis or Destiny was sent out. If the Planet Builders are basically the Biggest Bad of the SG multiverse then everything the Ascended did after realizing they were trouble could've been in preparation to deal with them. In the case of SGU that means once again using the Tauri (with at least common beniffit) to approach the threat like they did when cleaning up the mess they allowed to arise with the Goauld, the replicators, wraith and even the Ori. I'm not so sure we can credibly imagine a culture more powerful than the ascended as they are just not so flashy as to build planets for no reason. They did "just happen" to create a black hole just to lure SG1 to discover Kalek tho...

Yeah I always figured it was the ancients or some other class 3 or 4 race.

Consider this. We saw a rouge group of Asguard in Pegasus living separate from the home world. Why couldn't the planet builders be a rouge group of Ancients who split off for the Pegasus group to avoid the Wraith and not keeping to the no interference policies of the Ancients who returned to Earth before ascending. The Ori didn't know about life in the Milky Way until Daniel & Valla connected to some people in the Ori galaxy. Then again here's another twist. We were told that we were the second iteration of human life after the Ancients. What if like they say in BSG "it happened before it will happen again". Maybe we are the 3rd Human race and the Planet Builders created the Anterran"s before they became the Ancients.

Yes, Rush character was great, also well acted.

It was death by shaky cam. You arent supposed to shake a baby.

It's very possible that the Abydos experienced by SG-1 wasn't there at all. It was like the diner in which Daniel, Oma and Anubis debated ascension, a metaphysical representation of something rather than a real tangible physical place. This Abydos was there for Skaara to talk to SG-1 only, it vanished the moment that was done. We don't know that Anubis destroyed the entire planet either, it would seem much more plausible that he just wiped out everything on its surface. Which would leave an intact planet with no stargate or people. If this is the case then all Oma and her followers would have had to do was to create something the Stargate on Earth could dial to, and which could dial back to Earth. The rest of what SG-1 saw probably only happened inside their heads, like the diner or the SGC gate room from Meridian when Daniel debated ascension with Oma. In short, you cannot use the Abydos scenes from Full Circle to argue the ascended can create planets or as a case of it, given that it can be adequately explained by their ability to create and sustain metaphysical locations detached from physical space on numerous occasions.

Besides it was hinted at by mirrdon that constructions of a planet was possible as an ascended being but that it wasn’t a task that one can do alone

Also thinking about the idea of the replicators and how they had not completely eaten the planet in the Pegasus galaxy but used it to thrive and remain stationary with the dgalaxies progression, of a race of ascended replicators exists then that could easily make a star given the knowledge of how and the ability or sheer strength needed to actually do it. Plus replicators have shown that over vast time they can shed their destructive nature

Same for my brothers and several friends. Stargate Universe is by far the easiest gate show to get new people to watch and then actually hook them to it's self and subsequently the Stargate franchise as a whole.

I think that puddle jumper ended up on that planet where Maybourne was pretending to be a "king", then SG1 stored it somewhere until Daniel discovered there was a ZPM in ancient Egypt and used it to go back and get it. At that point, it was discovered in the "Mobius strip" timeline and later flown by the alternate Jackson & Carter and ended up in Egypt again.

Nah... they probably extinct.

Don't say anything! That is how we got those Stargate Origins: Catherine webisodes

The cryo tubes are pretty old.easy ti explain aging actors, or missing ones. Perhaps they stayed in stasis and it took earth until now to redial. This time the actual team and supplies come through. The end team could go looking for the old one and revive them. Eli should be a part of the ship now tho. Like his solution to the broken pod was to upload himself to the ships computer.

I was thinking the same way. Similar to what we saw in the movie Interstellar.

In the story, the people who were left behind, stayed in the shuttle. They died. They did not have the skills needed, to repair the shuttle, or understand how to stay warm.