The Pokemon We Misremember 

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@CLOYO from Gen 10, but it's understandable. A lot of Gen 10 mons are forgettable.

crunkledunk from gen 4

@@milkywae749 Except Crumbustible. That thing was the shit.

@ChiefDoggingfood Agree. Easily a top 100 mon. Can't believe anyone would choose its split evolution, Xplodeteed

I thought chinchou was a gen 3 mon because I never knew gen 2 existed my parents must have worked their asses off to hide it I was obsessed with blue

Gen 3 picked up the slack. It gave you these Gen 2 mons, and made ghosts and dragons more commonplace.

What you mean sticking most of the new Pokémon in the post game behind an entirely different region with tiny encounter rates was bad thing Popycock

Generation 2 was so tremendously bad*

I’m playing through the games at the moment to complete a living dex. Currently playing Crystal again and my god finding Johto Pokémon is a pain. Half of them have a sub-10% encounter rate. On a normal play through, you’d just see these at best

Yeah, I thought about Sinnoh native Meditite migrating to Hoenn

Same with Galarian Zigzagoon being the original form and the Hoennian a more recent lineage.

If a region inspired by India ever drops that’s probably gonna be the case for Cufant and Copperajah. It debuted in Galar in Gen 8, but THIS PLACE is where it comes from.

Mr. Mime is a Sinnoh Pokémom since it can be found in the wild in Sinnoh but not in Kanto, only trough a Trainer trade.

It rubs me the wrong way when people say new evolutions of old Pokémon are native to the region of the Gen they were introduced in, like calling Crobat a Johto Pokémon. Or calling Houndour, Murkrow, and Slugma Johto Pokémon, considering they could only be found in Kanto in GSC. EDIT: And calling Meltan and Melmetal Alola Pokémon is flat-out wrong, considering they can't even be used in Alola games.

Winona has one on her team as well (Nothing a Flamethrower can't Handle)

Wait Skarmory isn't gen 3???

@@GoldiekkRS gen 2

I always pronounced it as "Skarmony" for some reason, I never bothered to read some pokemons' names properly, even if it was so prominent in my favorite generation

my first time in gen 2 on victory road i saw a skarmory and i thought it was some kinda legendary i’d never see again so i used my master ball on it

Oversaturation of Kanto? That seems a little hyperbolic.

@@TheRealMycanthrope: No, Kanto is oversaturated in the Pokémon market and here is why: 1) Kanto is featured in many mainline games and has multiple remakes while other regions (like Unova) don't even have one. The Kanto featuring main line games are: Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, FireRed, LeafGreen, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee. 2) Kanto Pokémon are included the most in spin-off games like Colosseum, Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, etc. 3) 13 Kanto Pokémon have mega-evolutions (Charizard and Mewtwo even have two) which is the 2nd most amount behind Hoenn. 4) 33 Kanto Pokémon have regional variants (Meowth and Tauros even have multiple) which is three times more than any other regions has (Unova at 2nd place has 11). 5) Until recently, Kanto was the only region that had all 151 Pokémon available as official Pokémon plushies. Pikachu alone has more official plushies than official Alola plushies. It's not just a time issue with Kanto being the oldest region in the Pokémon industry, but the fact that GameFreak mistakenly believes that every Pokéfan wants to 'relive the nostalgia from the 90s' and therefore push Kanto as much as possible at the expense of other regions' spotlight. This is why in Generation 6, we got so many Kanto mega-evolutions and only one from Unova and one from Kalos (where mega evolutions started; and Diancie is locked behind an event), and why (with the exception of Garbador from Unova) Kanto is the only other region aside from Galar which got a significant amount (12) of Gigantamax Pokémon. There was absolutely no logical reason for that - it's oversaturation and unfair favouritism.

​@@akumayoxirumathis is too much

@@akumayoxiruma I guess the only exception at the moment is Paradox Pokemons. In which the most dominant are from Unova and Johto. It's worth mentioning in passing that there was just a moment when they did otherwise. It was just the 5th gen, one of the worst selling games. It should be mentioned that fans at the time made a big uproar that no old Pokoxes were available in the campaign and the anime at the time is considered one of the weakest in the series.

Maybe that’s also why there are a lot of scrapped designs

Did you watch the anime? (No judgement!)

@@SuperPlacido1 I watched the anime, I thought Chimecho was just another Misty/Togepi situation

@@user-iy6ko1bz4y Ah I see! Thanks for the anwser and have a great week-end! ^^

Definitely, although at least for myself, I remember playing RSE and searching the top of Mt. Pyre for a Chimecho. Chimecho only appears at a rate of 2% (1/50); only slightly better than the 1% suggested here. It probably helped that I looked at sites like Serebii to find Pokémon information! Also, James in the Hoenn anime had one, which he captured during the same episode that Ash met Winona (the Fortree Gym Leader). Very few these days probably know about or remember that era of the Pokémon anime, but that was just before I stopped watching it regularly. I can get where some might have thought it was a Misty/Togepi or a Tracey/Marill situation. I'm also reminded of Kecleon (also thinking of Fortree City), because Kecleon debuted quite early in the Johto anime (when Ash had 4 Johto badges), although it was only with a character of the day rather than a main character.

Fun fact chimecho was the very last pokemon added in hoenn in the game data even after jirachi and deoxys

Yeah same lmao I played a tiny bit of gen 2 but never saw the Gen 2 mons anyway so I thought they were introduced in Gen 3...

That's me with Lucario. I just assumed that it was some sort of mystical that I missed from an event in part because each Smash game covered one more generation till that point and not playing/watching Gen 4.

im like that with some gen 3 mon thinking they're gen 4, and i also skipped out on the hoenn games. Torkoal, Flygon and Camerupt i especially tend to think are gen 4.

Yeah I'm surprised he didn't mention Chinchou and Lanturn. They went from rare fishing encounters in Gen 2 to common Dive encounters in Gen 3

Skarmory is the only one this really happens for me, I just heavily associate it with the ashy route near Lavaridge Town

same also happens with Zigzagoon, I believe. Hoenn Zigzagoon is from Galarian Zigzagoon adapting.

​@@mechanicalhoundzThis made me fact-check through the Pokédex and I never knew this because of having Sword. Thanks for the information.

I do hope that there is eventually a game that swaps them as Exeggutor and Kantonian Exeggutor.

@@orangeapples Actually this is a weird point. Pokémon Go markets the Pokémon in the Kanto Pokédex as first being discovered in Kanto. But evidently Exeggutor was discovered first in Alola and moved to Kanto. While that'd be waivable by saying "that's only Alolan Exeggutor and Kantonian Exeggutor first was discovered in Kanto, that doesn't account for Exeggcute or any other Pokémon like that was clearly discovered outside of Kanto first.

@@orangeapples as far as the dex is concerned, they're both just referred to as "exeggutor." I don't think one is ever officially called Alolan Exeggutor, but fans have taken it upon themselves to call them that for the sake of telling them apart. I do see a lot of fans retroactively calling the Kanto forms of various pokemon as "Kantonian..." though, which is a good step!

There's also the whole "Pikablue" thing that muddles that down even more I'd say

Yes! I thought marill was gen 1 until just recently and I've been playing since gen 1 lol

Marill is clearly from Hoenn. I think the way to determine the "home region" of each mon we have to look into the frequency of the wild encounters, how many trainers use it across the region and whether the place allows it to have a completed evolution family (ex Hoenn allows the existence of Azurill, thus the Marill line can exist fully). I like the theory that not all introduced pokemon are native to the first region they appear in.

Also the rocket executive had a houndoom and this was before the 8th gym...

Houdoom''s even her ace and who she's paured with in Masters

I mean Cynthia uses a spirittomb but younger me had no idea what it was or how to get it

The Johto games really did not want you to use Dark types or Ghost types. It's as if Game Freak wanted to maintain the illusion that Psychic was still the most terrifyingly broken type in the game despite Dark's existence being due to Psychic; Lugia was literally made a Psychic/Flying type and not a Water/Flying type simply because that made it seem "stronger". Hey, it's not like Gyrados is a thing.

There's also a talking Murkrow in the Rocket HQ in Mahogany.

That's fair! I thought the tidbit with hgss calling it a sinnoh mon was cool enough to put in here but it's definitely got hoenn rep

If my memory is right, then meditite was hard to find in emerald but more easily found in ruby

⁠​⁠@@petermaguire8139yeah I remember having to trade a meditite from Ruby to emerald because I could not find one 😂

It's the Winston house (at least i think is winston) the grandma has the meditite

@@alkv7604 Yes it’s the family by Mauville city you can battle them back to back?

Farfetch'd are in the wild too West of ecruteak. Even Jynx is in the ice path

Farfetch'd and Lickitung are available in the wild in Yellow.

Oh, aren't you the creator behind Pokemon Dreams?

Which one?!

@@ShunyShock Artisan Cave at the Battle Frontier in Emerald!

James had a Chimecho, so that's how I rememeber it.

Chingling was introduced in Gen 4 as a Baby pokemon.

Doesn't help its only at the summit of Mt. Pyre and a 2% encounter. Also the grass on the summit is entirely off to the side so unless you wandered off the path you won't encounter anything in the one time you are required to go there. ALSO if you were to see a trainers and use the pokedex to find where you can catch it, it would just highlight the spot on the map so you could not tell if the area the pokedex was pointing to was Route 122, any of the 6 floors of the interior, the exterior, or the summit of Mt. Pyre

I was obsessed with ROM hacks with new stories, regions, characters like Victory Fire back in the day and I might've encountered a Chimecho while playing one of those

Chimecho is infamously one of the most obscure pokémon to find in gen 3. It had no evolutionary relative, was not used by any trainer or referenced, and only was found in grass a bit out of the way at a place you have zero reason to revisit after the one time you did it because of story. Even in-story, they were like "quick, we need to go".

They point out the issue being people skipped gen 2

@@gluttonousgoddesseven so

​@@gluttonousgoddessI skipped Gens 4 and 5. And I didn't thought Lucario or something like Audino were from Gen 6.

@@diegomedina9637 Lucario is pretty well advertised, and a lot of people talk about Audino as exp farming. Plus, Gen 2 came out when the Internet was still relatively fresh.

@@gluttonousgoddess We didn't had the internet back then but we had Pogs. Even if people skipped the Gen 2 games there was a really high probability of them knowing about mons like Houndoom, Murkrow and Skarmory because of kids talking about them during recess or something like that. Heck that argument makes way less sense when the internet was more mainstream when Gen 3 was still active. If you were curious about Pokemon a quick search on the internet would tell you everything about past gens you needed to know... And again. Word of mouth was still a thing around that time and there was still a lot of merchandise labeled as gen 2 merchandise around everywhere.

thats the thing i dont get, Meditite and Medicham are super common in Ruby and Sapphire, its just theyre in a cave system you never actually have to go into and Everything in there is rare compared to Aron.

@@F14thunderhawk I mean, 'super common' and 'tucked away in one cave' are at least a little contradictory. But you're right that they aren't *rare* pokemon like a Bagon, gabite, Vulpix (in hoenn), or a Chimeco (which got largely the same treatment), but they aren't *common* in Hoenn like they are in Sinnoh, where their availability is closer to your Geodude-starly-bidoof-shellos pokemon that are available on most routes in the region. I also don't know where you think they're available- Meditite can be found in Mt. Pyre, and both can be found in hoenn victory road. Your reference to Aron makes me think you're thinking of granite cave?

@@parkerdixon-word6295 I think he thought Meditite could be found in Granite Cave because Brawly uses one in Emerald.

Also is strangely missing from emerald. I'm not sure why exactly

@@keith103 not gonna lie. Doesn't sound out of place

These kids weren’t around back in the good ol gen 1 and 2 days

Definitely Corsola too as it's mentioned that Pacifidlog Town is floating on a bunch of Corsolas. Also anime and movies and stuff.

Until reading this comment I completely forgot corsola was gen II...

I mean of course you're confused you missed those gens.

Btw not related but I hope you get the chance to play the gen 2 games anytime soon, heartgold and soulsilver are imo one of the most polished Pokémon games out there, the remakes are done with so much love and add so many small bits that make the regions feel alive

Did you watch the anime? (No judgement!)

@@SuperPlacido1 Even if you watched it back then, most people did not have a dvr so it wasin't uncommon to miss chunks of the show.

​@@need_dopamine2658Typhlosion didn't debut in the main anime until Gen III.

@@doomsdayrabbit4398 I did not know that. very weird

My headcanon is that the elemental monkeys' natural habitat is Santalune Forest, and the ones you find in Pinwheel Forest are escapees.

Skarmory seems to be most common in Alola

I think it would be the other way around, as in slugma is from johto but invasive in hoenn, as invasive species tend to be widespread

I don't think Skarm is really endangered but simply a predatory bird lorewise and hunts on its own... I remember seeing a flock of Skarmory together in the anime though so maybe I'm wrong on this one

@@ammagon4519 Anime and in game pokemon data don't always align. See for example literally any ghost pokemon.

chimecho is a good one, pointlessly rare in Gen 3 and 4

Could be worse It could be a chingling Seriously why does that thing exist

He caught it in Hoenn

James had Chimecho for a very long time in the Hoenn region

James got chimecho in hoenn and it left during battle frontier. He didn’t have it in sinnoh

it doesnt help that Slugma and Magcargo dont even show up in the anime until the Silver Conference, the tratitional teaser for the next game's pokemon period, and you have Flannery as an early gym in gen 3 whose entire personality is about taking care of her living blast furnaces.

Forgive my stupidity, (I was maybe 2 or 3 when Gen 3 came out) but what the heckle is PMDB???

Slugma should've appeared in the Burned Tower.

@@hotaruishere2133probably refers to Pokémon mystery dungeon: blue rescue team

my older brother thought it was a gen 3 pokemon and so did i

Same for Scyther, Pinsir, and others exclusive to Safari Zones.

Same here; was never confused on the origin region/generation for any of these Pokémon

same here

Roselia also isn’t catchable in emerald

There's more imo, like gorebyss and huntail. But if you suggest roselia i suggest sneasel, it's such a bad pokemon in gen 2 that i can't even remember where you catch it.

Roselia is found everywhere in sapphire though. I've only played through emerald once but I'll believe the person who says it's not catchable. But lots of trainers have it still.

​@@TheWolffriendly Yeah I genuinely forgot Gorebyss and Huntail weren't introduced in Sun and Moon until like two weeks ago lol.😅😅

The vast majority of shadow Pokémon were johto mons tho?

@@NoahRankin59 Colosseum was the first Pokemon game I played, so I had no idea that they were originally gen 2 mons, even though I also had Gold (it was my brother's game and I never really played it until the battery got dry so I could never make it to Kanto anyways). Think he also couldn't find them despite beating the elite 4 and exploring Kanto.

I forget Bonsly isn't Gen 3 a lot. Mainly because it was promoted in the GameCube games and had several anime appearances. This goes the same for munchlax.

@@angelsartandgaming and weavile !

Yeah, Bonsly, Munchlax and Weavile all pretty much got the full Togepi treatment in the latter half of gen 3, Bonsly definitely the most though.

cool

Farfetch'd appears in the wild on Route 13 in Yellow. Lickitung appears in Cerulean Cave in Yellow. Jynx appears in Seafoam Islands in Japanese Blue.

@@zdude0127 And yet all three were reverted back to being Johto-only finds in Gold, Silver, & Crystal.

My point still stands though. In gen 1, they weren't trade exclusive (an argument can be made for Jynx though).

@@zdude0127 I was going to originally mention that you could technically get some of these mons in the wild in the enhanced versions, but Johto is the only region where they have been consistently present, and much more people own the original RBG than Yellow or Japanese Blue. As a aside, Lickitung being the only post-game Pokémon in Yellow besides Mewtwo has always felt really odd.

You can't really exclude the enhanced versions though. They are still part of the generation as a whole. Whether a minority of people owned them or not, those mons are still available in the wild in one way or another in Gen 1. While I agree with Lickitung, it's kinda crap anyway in Gen 1 lol.

If nothing else, Crobat is such a perfect evolution that Golbat just feels incomplete.

Another example for me is Azurill. Gen 2 introduced and made a big deal of baby Pokémon and is where the Azumarill line was introduced... but Azurill is for some reason a gen 3 Pokémon???

Hell, just after posting that I remembered, that's also the case with Wynaut!

@@JesterQueenAnne Not to mention Marill was already pretty weak (20 in both attacking stats?!).

@@JesterQueenAnne Don't quote me on this but I believe Azurill and Wynaut are also the ONLY cross-gen evolutionary Pokémon introduced in gen 3, which has always been so interesting to me

I literally cannot imagine Azumarill in the gen 2 sprite style. Very good shout from you. Its even ironic considering how embedded Marill is in gen 2 with the 'Pikablu' rumours. Furthermore adding azurill in gen 3, as the only post-gen evo for gen 3, makes me think Azumarill was from Gen 3. So Marill is very gen 2, whereas I think its evolutions are gen 3. Weird one.

@@spacehosazurill and wynaut

To make matters worse w Houndour, it has a meager 5% encounter rate, available on a single route (7) only during the nighttime. & to top things off w it being so low of a level (a mere Lv15 I checked), like most of the other Pkmn in Kanto & having Roar, a move that'll immediately end the battle in case u actually managed to find it under all these circumstances, you can't easily lower its HP without the risk of fainting it, meaning there's a high probability to fail the capture. It's like they rlly didn't want players to use this fire (hot) dog even in the post-game. What did Crystal do to improve from that atrocity? The rate just improved to 20% & Lv to 18...

I totally get that one, but remembering Marill from the Orange Islands arc of the anime being predominantly featured on Tracey's team keeps it as a gen 2 Pokemon in my mind. If not for that, totally gen 3

That would also make sense why it's the only region Marill can be found in caves, and Marill is exclusively in caves there (And as we see in the HG/SS entering area art, the Marill is hiding), where as any other region, it just kinda hangs around wherever.

It actually could be the opposite. Invasive species tend to thrive without their natural predators.

I did the same for Maractus, despite gen V being my last game before a long hiatus, just because it's not very memorable lol.

You skipped BW1, then? Those things basically infested Victory Road!

@Nightlingbolt I used repels all the way through victory road in Black. I just wanted to get to the climax, it was getting too good for random encounters to slow me down. Edit: also, college, so I had to beat the games quick.

durant doesn't look creepy to me, especially because it intimidatingly walks at you but at a very slow pace and has a really weird cry, i think it's kind of funny

I can remember Gen. 5 mons clearly cause the first game focus on newer Pokemons before spreading the old ones back it's sequel. Gen. 2 & 3 are the ones I forgotten the most because of there horrible encounter.

I never played the gen 3 games as a kid so it still fucks me up to hear that Feebas, Budew and Meditite are gen 3 pokemon and not gen 4 😂

@@matthewlacey4198 budew IS a gen 4 mon though

rotoms weird inconsistent lore is its own story! from obscure DP detail to being in every phone on the planet

The rotom thing is a mess that mostly stems for a pokemon pokedex book that had a ton of inaccuracies which included calling rotom a legendary. Didn't help the games limited you to one per file along with spiritomb

@@TNobody0214 And the fact that it used the legendary battle theme.

remoraid is required to get the regis so it was a highly sought pokemon to catch

@@DkKobaADV, you might be thinking of Relicanth. Remoraid is not available in Hoenn until the post-game in the extended portion of Emerald’s Safari Zone.

So like Meditite? (Meditite was on Brawly's Emerald team)

Not too surprising Gen IV added a lot of evolutions.