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The Police vs Grime Music - A Noisey Film 

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Noisey presents a new documentary about London's grime scene and its relationship with the police hosted by JME and featuring Meridian Dan, Jammer and Big Narstie.
In February, Just Jam's event at The Barbican was cancelled at the last minute. It was an event that seemed to be yet another victim of the London authorities now notorious risk assessment procedure, Form 696.
Told through the eyes of Jamie Adenuga-grime outfit Boy Better Know's tee-total, vegan frontman who was booked to perform at the Barbican-Noisey investigates what the reasons behind the sudden cancellation were. He speaks to lawyers, journalists and fellow artists like Jammer, Meridian Dan and Big Narstie to find out whether the prohibiting of grime music events by London police is a cause for concern, rather than a solution to crime in the capital.
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@KingNattty
@KingNattty 10 лет назад
They got the right person to do this documentary, JME is probably the smartest person in the grime scene
@HShango
@HShango 10 лет назад
True
@Thierryhenry1444
@Thierryhenry1444 10 лет назад
crazy titch would have been better
@aduken762
@aduken762 7 лет назад
Gabriel DaVega-Cortes wretch would've done it good to same with narstie any OG in the scene tbh
@k0walovytenno345
@k0walovytenno345 4 года назад
And what about Lowkey, Devlin and Akala? JME is super intelligent but dont forget about masterminds. Much love!
@ben-plays5487
@ben-plays5487 4 года назад
Gabriel DaVega-Cortes only reason I watched this
@vvalfie
@vvalfie 8 лет назад
Is it me or does Jme sound like he's going to bust a rhyme every time he speaks
@T30BO55
@T30BO55 6 лет назад
It's actually insane how accurate that is
@aliishahh
@aliishahh 4 года назад
Loooool yes
@SyabilMohar817
@SyabilMohar817 4 года назад
Yes sir, I am scared with him.
@Yung_Mango
@Yung_Mango 4 года назад
Head like a fucking orange
@tuxer7420
@tuxer7420 4 года назад
Just u mate
@dieyounger1657
@dieyounger1657 10 лет назад
JME, the man's best representative for the grime scene
@TheLemondog1
@TheLemondog1 10 лет назад
or wiley
@TaymahAnderson
@TaymahAnderson 10 лет назад
TheLemondog1 or Terminator?
@TheRascal5678
@TheRascal5678 10 лет назад
Taymah Anderson tttt
@dieyounger1657
@dieyounger1657 9 лет назад
***** On a hiatus aint he?
@smellyfish36
@smellyfish36 9 лет назад
Him and Big Narstie atm
@SteBradburyDesign
@SteBradburyDesign 9 лет назад
"There's football events where things kick off all the time" PUN PUN PUN
@adriancarlos9155
@adriancarlos9155 6 лет назад
Ste Bradbury Design Yes because the pigs want them on the streets killing themselves not turning there life around
@d.f2262
@d.f2262 5 лет назад
I didn't see your comment I wrote the same. Yes that totally proves its bullshit doesn't it. Should use it as president
@jonh2469
@jonh2469 3 года назад
They do the same at risk pubs at football
@TidmanJ
@TidmanJ 9 лет назад
Big up JME for respecting computer nerds like me
@TrojanThugMusic
@TrojanThugMusic 6 лет назад
TidmanJ I believe JME himself is a computer nerd
@Sssneksss
@Sssneksss 5 лет назад
JME has a Graphicas Design degree.
@chungarito7739
@chungarito7739 4 года назад
Mans a ryzen threadripper you’re a pentium dual core
@chiefdenis
@chiefdenis 3 года назад
@@chungarito7739 😂😂😂 i love that bar
@akadapper
@akadapper 9 лет назад
If there is any beef at the rave, you can't blame that on the rave. It's because some people at the rave just happen to fall out or have beef previously. Fights and deaths can happen in a club playing any kind of music. It has nothing to do with genre. No MCs are on stage at a club saying "Start a fight with someone right now! Shoot that boy stood next to you for no reason!" I haven't been to a single grime and hip-hop night where someone got killed. I have been to plenty of clubs, pubs and bars playing chart music where someone got hurt real bad. I've been stood in a queue at Halo in Leeds, playing commercial dance music, when a guy shot two bouncers because they wouldn't let him in with trainers. (He and the bouncers were all white and the club didn't even stay closed that night). There's a lot of layers to the police's reasoning, but those layers are almost always built on one foundation - race. Sad really, but it's gonna take a few generations in the police force to die out before we see change. Until then, institutional racism will remain a big factor in how they make decisions.
@samhill487
@samhill487 9 лет назад
Forward riddim yeah lol, I think it had an bit of an effect on the impression on the genre.
@supahdupahguy81
@supahdupahguy81 9 лет назад
Steven A Trust. Imagine if they started banning people playing football in public because of football hooligans? It would be stupid.....but this is the logic the feds are using to lock off grime raves.
@shrunkninja
@shrunkninja 9 лет назад
Steven A wanna fight
@michaelisaac1023
@michaelisaac1023 9 лет назад
2 bouncers were shot and they kept the club opened that sounds like a massive lie
@akadapper
@akadapper 9 лет назад
Michael Isaac You must have me confused with one of the 14 year olds in your circle who make shit up to sound cool. If it makes you feel better, nobody died. Yousif Davis I'll see you at the rave
@2spicy4uMoFo
@2spicy4uMoFo 10 лет назад
I ran security for Tony Black & Big Narstie etc, they are real Gentlemen a pleasure to work with and very respectful of the venue, the artists and the family that enjoy the events.... There has never been 'gangsta trouble' at these events, its a close community of brothers and sisters sharing their passion for the music and the scene.. I will always give them my support as head of security and any references they need for other events ..
@1_Lando
@1_Lando 3 года назад
Very nice to hear 💯
@olamide6712
@olamide6712 8 лет назад
jammer doesn't know jammer's bars😂😂
@carlohenry5376
@carlohenry5376 8 лет назад
loool😂😂😂
@jordanwelborn2475
@jordanwelborn2475 6 лет назад
L Deliveryman 😂😂😂
@michaelthorsby
@michaelthorsby 8 лет назад
One of the lowest points of anti-intellectualism in grime was when Wiley dissed Sharky Major for having multiple GCSE's. JME have done so much to elevate grime intellectually, without compromising the rawness of the energy.
@i_know_youre_right_but
@i_know_youre_right_but 4 года назад
Loooooooool shut up Michael
@Yung_Mango
@Yung_Mango 4 года назад
Michael deffo a southern uni student
@gghhghhh9742
@gghhghhh9742 3 года назад
@@Yung_Mango JME was also a southern uni student
@epicgamerdude22
@epicgamerdude22 3 года назад
@@i_know_youre_right_but you just proved his point fool
@KidDynamite40
@KidDynamite40 9 лет назад
Hardcore grime fans dont even know any of jammers bars
@samhill487
@samhill487 9 лет назад
KidDynamite40 its the murkle man, go to your ends and circle man, all for the green and purple man,
@shrunkninja
@shrunkninja 9 лет назад
KidDynamite40 truuuuuuuuuuuu
@robertmunro5382
@robertmunro5382 9 лет назад
KidDynamite40 shut down the rave like cs gas
@paddy_wax
@paddy_wax 9 лет назад
+KidDynamite40 Hahaha that killed me, i heard what he said, scrolled down and that was the first thing i read
@ryanhand6278
@ryanhand6278 8 лет назад
I only know the murkle man Barz lol an "it's the murkle man, dressed in the green and purple man" then "it's the murkle GUYYYY!! Dressed in the green and purple GUYYY!!" Gonna give myself a slap now for taking the time to write this fuk sake
@LeWiS2K9SMUDGEMOONED
@LeWiS2K9SMUDGEMOONED 9 лет назад
696 and its SHUTDOWN
@kinkykon98
@kinkykon98 9 лет назад
+LM VS ayyyy i was saying "n it's shutdown" the whole video
@Epicgamer7392
@Epicgamer7392 7 лет назад
LM VS i
@mgfragiotta
@mgfragiotta 5 лет назад
Class comment
@hipopotomusman
@hipopotomusman 4 года назад
all i could think of lol
@eastpak2g6
@eastpak2g6 9 лет назад
Arrest your kids if they know Jammer's bars
@astgraphicnovel
@astgraphicnovel 9 лет назад
eastpak2g6 Write down some of his bars..
@astgraphicnovel
@astgraphicnovel 9 лет назад
***** JESUS CHRIST THAT'S ENOUGH MAN.. ENOUGH..
@astgraphicnovel
@astgraphicnovel 9 лет назад
***** Those bars are sinful.. They belong in the desert.
@astgraphicnovel
@astgraphicnovel 9 лет назад
***** He's race baiting.. I dislike race baiters.
@astgraphicnovel
@astgraphicnovel 9 лет назад
***** What if a white rapper spat those bars and changed the words to white brits? Would you still think the punch lines were ok then?
@lewish046
@lewish046 9 лет назад
Every time he says the word 'Shutdown' I sing Skepta - Shutdown, sure im not the only one.
@callad2165
@callad2165 8 лет назад
Probs the only skepta u know
@far7669
@far7669 8 лет назад
+Lewis Holdsworth Whiteboy "Roadman" Alert
@b1unknown257
@b1unknown257 6 лет назад
some whiteboy anthem
@twizzloc
@twizzloc 10 лет назад
Much love from a born and raised Brooklyn NYC kid. I've been listen to grime for over 5 years now and I've been doing my best to spread the word and love of the music. It's almost the perfect blend of Rap and Reggae influences, with a twist of dubstep and electronic influences. For us descendants of Caribbean Americans, it's both familiar and refreshing. Truth be told, I'll listen to a Newham Generals or Tempa T song just as quickly as I'll listen to a Jay- Z, Fabolous, Vybz Kartel or Busy Signal song. Keep making great music, and stand strong against those that want to shut it down. Nuff respect!!
@BassmentClubNight
@BassmentClubNight 10 лет назад
The fact the police declined any involvement in the documentary says a lot
@taylorm4831
@taylorm4831 7 лет назад
The way Big Narstie says 'Jesus' at 1:53, had me done 😂
@felixpiper620
@felixpiper620 7 лет назад
ThePoolQueenBaby Taylor
@davidmurphy2647
@davidmurphy2647 7 лет назад
ThePoolQueenBaby Taylor ... had me done ... great choice of words are you also one of these inbreds I guess you are !
@taylorm4831
@taylorm4831 7 лет назад
David Murphy Do you always address people like this?! What's wrong with you? Talking to people like that for no reason is extremely rude, you could've just simply commented on my choice of words but there was no need for the hateful comments now was there?
@taylorm4831
@taylorm4831 7 лет назад
It's just Internet talk. "Had me done" means I find it extremely funny. It makes sense if you're actually living in 2016. What's the problem? I wouldn't actually use these words in important places... You're just so rude, I can't get over it.
@djdegen4686
@djdegen4686 7 лет назад
David needs a REAL G UPPERCUT
@BritishGQ
@BritishGQ 8 лет назад
It's great to see Grime getting the exposure it deserves. Great work Noisey!
@mawiiile706
@mawiiile706 8 лет назад
and then... suddenly... drake and skeppy become best mates and grime goes massive
@mawiiile706
@mawiiile706 8 лет назад
+Sailfullah grime was getting massive at the time yeh but drake was and still is the biggest so you can't really say drake was taking credit when grime benefited a lot more than drake did init , cos i guarantee skepta got more fans off drake than the other way round
@mawiiile706
@mawiiile706 8 лет назад
Sailfullah Saifullah nah bruv I wasn't saying that I was just saying it cos now all the youts in america arse licking us
@tyriqueowns12
@tyriqueowns12 8 лет назад
+Sailfullah Saifullah grime is a sub genre in hip hop. its just like grunge to rock. drake exposed grime to a more general population.
@SI-cd7xs
@SI-cd7xs 8 лет назад
+stan sykes true. these hipsters will move onto something different soon. all this love for grime now is so fake & inorganic.
@jazzagirling
@jazzagirling 8 лет назад
+CapiTen10 preach mate, when i was in yr 7 and listened to grime and jme etc. everyone dissed me now they think they roadmen, fucking piss taking sheep fam
@user-nl6md8pu6y
@user-nl6md8pu6y 8 лет назад
This is nowhere near as rowdy or aggressive as a British punk concert, mind you they used to be oppressed in the 80's-90's as well. Actually, come to think of it, didn't Britain once try to oppress 60's rock? Some day there will be a 'Pirate Radio' movie about this grimes scene. What is it with British government and music cultures? The Stones, The Sex Pistols and now JME have all been shut down because they didn't invite the Queen. I think the police don't like these events cause they never got to be 'cool kids' or maybe some rocker girls broke their hearts.
@norepetitivebeats
@norepetitivebeats 7 лет назад
You forgot acid house and rave. They actually made that illegal.
@bt2307
@bt2307 4 года назад
Now it’s drill music
@AnnaLVajda
@AnnaLVajda 2 года назад
Yeah aggressive music attracts aggressive fans sometimes lots of country songs about drugs and murder too it's in lots of genres like he said it's "cultural".
@AnnaLVajda
@AnnaLVajda 2 года назад
Yeah aggressive music attracts aggressive fans sometimes lots of country songs about drugs and murder too it's in lots of genres like he said it's "cultural".
@AnnaLVajda
@AnnaLVajda 2 года назад
Yeah aggressive music attracts aggressive fans sometimes lots of country songs about drugs and murder too it's in lots of genres like he said it's "cultural".
@beyondthelol
@beyondthelol 9 лет назад
JME is the man
@osmaniqbal8354
@osmaniqbal8354 8 лет назад
Jamie mate, wear your seatbelt.
@KP-tm6fv
@KP-tm6fv 8 лет назад
xD Is that all you got from this video?
@nignog9341
@nignog9341 8 лет назад
+K Patel it seems so lol
@KP-tm6fv
@KP-tm6fv 8 лет назад
+Dale Clarke I'm back 4 months later and I don't remember writing this comment... 😂
@EonfusionHD
@EonfusionHD 7 лет назад
So how come if some metal heads such as myself go to a metal concert, and mosh like crazy no one bats an eyelid? Grime is one of the last musical genres I'd expect to get shut down for potential violence, aggression.
@supaaa5721
@supaaa5721 7 лет назад
Trust
@nanderlizernanderlizer684
@nanderlizernanderlizer684 4 года назад
this is fucking stupid. metal audiance is one of the least likely audiances to cause violence.
@rosuw3732
@rosuw3732 4 года назад
Are u serious man, just wanna feel progressive today or what.
@ojinikaagbu3525
@ojinikaagbu3525 4 года назад
It’s called racism my guy
@1_Lando
@1_Lando 3 года назад
@@ojinikaagbu3525 💯💯💯
@AGoesIn
@AGoesIn 10 лет назад
I'm glad jme mentioned it's not the grime music which causes bad stuff to happen, but the culture.
@tunjilegba
@tunjilegba 10 лет назад
What culture?
@187Clemens
@187Clemens 10 лет назад
Prob the minority of guys who say stuff like "free maniac" and that. Anyone who says free someone like him should be incarcerated then shot.
@tunjilegba
@tunjilegba 10 лет назад
The thug culture. Id say the music reflects that culture though, but I hear you.
@JohnSmith-gu4sh
@JohnSmith-gu4sh 10 лет назад
That's the whole point of the video
@liamwhoare9936
@liamwhoare9936 9 лет назад
187Clemens FREE TITCH
@ddsdavey
@ddsdavey 10 лет назад
I think Jammer is a bit deluded if he thinks policemens kids know his lyrics!
@covenANTuk
@covenANTuk 10 лет назад
IMA BIG MAN BUT IM NOT THIRTY
@bethstubbd2584
@bethstubbd2584 9 лет назад
cuz they do? police have kids who smoke weed so yh trust i know lads
@cruxmind
@cruxmind 9 лет назад
Beth Stubbd A girl named Beth, from England (London? ) daughter to a policeman and smokes weed? stereotypical English white girl lol jkk
@bethstubbd2584
@bethstubbd2584 9 лет назад
lol i dont people i know ahah Tylar Crux n im from Stoke not London
@ddsdavey
@ddsdavey 9 лет назад
Beth Stubbd Wtf has smoking weed got to do with listening to Jammer? I know people the listen to Tchaikovsky and smoke weed.
@germnbill
@germnbill 8 лет назад
I was in London a couple of months ago visiting a good friend and tattoo artist working there. We're both German. Liked the city a lot, although I felt like it was a little overly busy and all. I live in Cologne and that is a major city over here but not nearly as rushed as London is. Not that that is a bad thing so to speak. I don't get this intolerance in some cultural trifles over there. Coming from Germany I always feel that those are the exact values that many British men and women have fought and died for over the years, to create a tolerant and modern society. Oh well: I guess humanity (and yes I am well aware of many social problems plagueing GB, as well as I am of Germany's). Sure will be hitting up one of these events next time I'm visiting. Looks like a lot a fun and cool people to hangout around. I personally come from the punk/hardcore/metal scene, but I do like to get down with some DnB, Trap, Hip Hop from time to time and guess now Grime. Thanks for the doc. I will look into the music now. Always did like that British accent from the MC. ;)
@germnbill
@germnbill 8 лет назад
+Teo Ayodeji-Ansell Thanks for the feedback mate. Yeah it is all just so silly isn't it? I was a foreigner for six years living in the U.S.. Alabama actually. So yeah. I heard a whole lot about Hitler and German women not shaving their armpits and what not... Of course I wasn't black, which (in Alabama) would have been quite normal, but I am just so annoyed about fucking ethnic bullshit. I hope for the day, where people look beyond dick size and therefore color of skin ;) :). Fucking retards.
@cs1kanon38
@cs1kanon38 7 лет назад
If you want a less hectic London, come up to Manchester - Britain's 2nd capital. It's beast up here.
@straightwhitemale6609
@straightwhitemale6609 4 года назад
@@cs1kanon38 or Birmingham
@jimmyyesi
@jimmyyesi 9 лет назад
JME is the safest guy
@MrFrimponged
@MrFrimponged 9 лет назад
7:07 nah, that's not me
@IsaacHussain2003
@IsaacHussain2003 8 лет назад
+AIDEN_js Act like a wasteman thats not me.
@MrFrimponged
@MrFrimponged 8 лет назад
IsaacOfficixl Sex any girl nah thats not me
@badgermayhew2076
@badgermayhew2076 8 лет назад
Lips any girl nah that's not me
@IsaacHussain2003
@IsaacHussain2003 8 лет назад
Yeah, I used to wear Gucci but i put it all in the bin cause thats not me.
@MrFrimponged
@MrFrimponged 8 лет назад
IsaacOfficixl True, I used to look like you but dressing like a mess nah thats not me
@MrYoungarmy
@MrYoungarmy 8 лет назад
The working class create a genre of music that costs next to nothing to produce. They talk about their culture and background over an instrumental and people relate to it, start to turn it into their own subculture, start wearing the clothes that the artists wear, even start to make the music themselves but because the content isn't clean and doesn't conform to social norms, the authorities get scared and do whatever they can to stamp it out. Grime IS the new Punk rock.
@Krude-rv9vn
@Krude-rv9vn 6 месяцев назад
If your music is about criminal activity then they will treat you like a criminal. Promoting drugs and killing people in your music then they assume that is what you are doing. The same happened when nwa did it and that is why the culture has been stereotyped
@H-man414
@H-man414 9 лет назад
Wow that ending, all of the Authorities which have the power to change these sorts of things ALL declined to have any involvement in a genuine issue which is affecting the grime scene. Things like this are just some of the reasons why there is such a general resentment towards police and authorities, there's no honesty and service about it, just completely shutting down crowds and events where they believe there is likely trouble to occur because of things which happened many years ago.
@Diniles
@Diniles 8 лет назад
Thing that surpsised me from this is how intelligent JME actually is. Hes not some dickhead off the streets - he doesnt smoke and is vegan - and yet people want to see him as some crime lord just cos he makes grime
@hoppjugallo
@hoppjugallo 8 лет назад
being vegan doesnt make someone a better person you bellend
@janguv88
@janguv88 8 лет назад
+hoppjugallo I think the bigger point is that JME clearly comes across as quite middle class -- I mean: anime, veganism, clean lifestyle. The stereotyped middle class is normally seen as very innocent and unthreatening. So it's strange to see the police fear the scene given that some of its figureheads are not threatening at all. It makes you thinnk that the police are really going off certain assumptions about race, and maybe class, which are untenable and outright discriminatory.
@Diniles
@Diniles 8 лет назад
hoppjugallo I know. In fact vegetarians annoy me when they start to go on. But theres a difference with this guy, who goes to the lawyer to see what can be done about the police shutting down his events, and skepta, who puts loudspeakers under a bridge shouting "fuck the police" - if that doesnt make the police want to cancel his events, then idk
@janguv88
@janguv88 8 лет назад
+diniles Haha, but you know they're brothers, right?
@Diniles
@Diniles 8 лет назад
janguv88 Yes, that is why i am making the point - the difference between them
@emmanueluanseru
@emmanueluanseru 10 лет назад
BIG RESPECT TO NOISEY FOR FEATURING THIS DOCUMENTARY ON THEIR CHANNEL.
@baskingbal1
@baskingbal1 7 лет назад
This sounds a lot like what happened to NWA in the 90s. Plus, those crowds were dead.
@gabrieloliver8583
@gabrieloliver8583 7 лет назад
Luke Jackson Ye where they couldn't use profanity or they get arrested
@user-ye5xp3gr4s
@user-ye5xp3gr4s 7 лет назад
Luke Jackson wasn't that the late 80s like 88 89?
@smashyrashy
@smashyrashy 7 лет назад
+D LAD why does it matter m8
@tucool4447
@tucool4447 6 лет назад
D LAD Yea
@gwiltl
@gwiltl 6 лет назад
Yes. They broke up in 1991.
@savagebrad1454
@savagebrad1454 9 лет назад
jammer kids know your bars.... because for the last 10 years you haven't made any new ones and spit the same ones over and over
@leonoramicah3702
@leonoramicah3702 9 лет назад
loooooool innit Gucci Man
@theshahirahmed
@theshahirahmed 9 лет назад
😂😂😂😂
@MelShibson
@MelShibson 9 лет назад
Gucci Man Oh shit Jammer are you going to take that sitting down rudeboy?
@Zetunez
@Zetunez 9 лет назад
Gucci Man MURKED
@iaiband
@iaiband 9 лет назад
Gucci Man Brrrrrrrrrr!
@HarryHitchens1
@HarryHitchens1 10 лет назад
great film. really well made and well written/investigated
@RodAzlan
@RodAzlan 10 лет назад
Brilliant documentary with intelligent artists asking questions that are important to the arts. Great cameos from Feargal Sharkey and more.
@armstrong.r
@armstrong.r 9 лет назад
I was born and raised in the US, and still live here. From the inside, it always felt that racism was such a huge problem in my country. I'm not saying that it isn't, but it has improved quite a lot over the years. But looking at the UK legal system, it seems that racism plays a strong role in the way laws are introduced. It's surprising.
@SonniTheDog
@SonniTheDog 8 лет назад
+Robert Armstrong bullshit, racism plays 0 to very little role in the drafting of new legislature, in the UK and in the US.
@lvl99paint
@lvl99paint 8 лет назад
+Sentimental Void yeah UK has always been much more about class than race
@thatyellowfellow
@thatyellowfellow 8 лет назад
+Robert Armstrong Racism is everywhere unfortunately. I'll be honest, the UK isn't too bad in comparison to somewhere like America, it does still exist, but the truth is. Human beings are just pretty racist. What should happen is that people should accept their fucking racism, but also learn to accept that things that are different or that they can't understand don't need to be eradicated on the basis of them being different. Trying to believe humans aren't racist is delusional
@SonniTheDog
@SonniTheDog 8 лет назад
TheRandomSack bullshitter
@ntak7740
@ntak7740 8 лет назад
+Sunny Deez you would have to say there is no racism at the micro/citizen level to say there is no racism at the macro/institutional level and that's plain retarded. A black president doesn't really mean shit when most of this stuff is done in congress or at the state level. For example last year Alabama passed a voter ID law, which means you have to have money for the ID and free time to get it in order to exercise your right to vote, even though voter fraud is basically non-existent. Months later they shut down 31 DMVs in counties that had predominantly black populations. New york's stop and frisk laws were created specifically for blacks and latinos. That's why even though blacks are 23% of the NYC population they are stopped 55% of the the 4.5 million stops NYPD makes a year, without probable cause, and about 90% are innocent. In fact the largest portion were young black men at 25.6% of stops even though they make up 1.9% of NYC's population. You may not participate in it but you can't deny the existence of institutional racism.
@saif162
@saif162 8 лет назад
Big Narstie caught feelings with that back 😂😂
@david19835
@david19835 10 лет назад
I agreed with everything said apart from when the Journalist Sunny said that the police's job was to deal with crime after it happens. I think thats an incredibly stupid thing to say, of course the police are going to take pre-empitve measures to stop crime! The problem is not the Police taking these measures, rather the lack of transparency when dealing with these events, and the lack of explanation for the cancellations. If the police really do have evidence that things were going to happen, then there is no problem, but its just that noone knows.
@UrbanPhoenix247
@UrbanPhoenix247 10 лет назад
Well-explained point at your last paragraph.
@kiddterralv
@kiddterralv 10 лет назад
david19835 But what the journalist said was true, very rarely does the police actually stop a crime as it is occurring or before it does. The Police's job is the maintain the peace of the community. For a while now, the police's role has been ever expanding because of demand from the public, but you forget that the police can't control crime, they are there to only maintain the peace and arrest people after they commit a crime. You can't arrest someone for thinking about killing someone, they can only arrest him after he kills him, you can't arrest someone for thinking of committing a crime, he has to commit the crime first, innocent until proven guilty in the eye's of the court, and there's not enough police officers to patrol every street of the UK to stop crime before it happens, the Police have a limited budget.
@david19835
@david19835 10 лет назад
Bob Apuskiduski I disagree completely. Much of the police's work is done before the crimes happen. You can be arrested for "conspiracy to murder" Conspiracy to commit theft" "being equiped for theft" "possession with intent to supply" All of these are charges that happen before the major crime. And in any case when dealing with these events the police here do not arrest anyone, noone is charged. They say they have evidence that crimes will be commited. If they do have that evidence then of course they will take measures. And if you think otherwise then you are saying the police should just let crimes happen and deal with them after! It doesnt make sense. As i said before the problem is not them closing the events if they actually have credible evidence. Its just the lack of transparency and clear explanations as to why.
@georgestylianou7821
@georgestylianou7821 10 лет назад
david19835 If you really believe what you are saying, then show us all evidence of expected trouble at the events!! We will be waiting along time!!
@david19835
@david19835 10 лет назад
George Stylianou I dont think you understood the point i am making at all. I am saying that there is no problem if the evidence is available and transparent, however the issue is that we dont have it.
@mansa3105
@mansa3105 9 лет назад
As an afro-swede I look up to historically multicultural countries and cities like UK london, makes me really sad to see that brothers in the UK suffer the same discrimination as we do in Sweden
@dazethekid
@dazethekid 10 лет назад
I wanna ask constable....mate Ask your kids about me....mate Jammer the real murkle leng man. Big documentary..
@wtfiretruck01
@wtfiretruck01 8 лет назад
at 11:41 I was like the fuck has happened to jme's voice???
@3rodox
@3rodox 8 лет назад
+Daniel Taylor hahaha
@wendymackin2712
@wendymackin2712 8 лет назад
It wasn't jme
@101dkokomaster
@101dkokomaster 10 лет назад
some seriously ignorant comments on here wow how does this turn into an anti UK thing tho lmao americans thinking they know everything as usual chill ITS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT YOU
@JOHNBAPTIST384
@JOHNBAPTIST384 10 лет назад
tell them
@benjackson-hamilton5614
@benjackson-hamilton5614 10 лет назад
so many young emerging rap/grime artists from the uk that posses more talent than allot of the rappers you would hear in america. ie. chief keef and the rest of gbe. loool
@Saibot00
@Saibot00 9 лет назад
Hypocrite.
@jackzn7860
@jackzn7860 7 лет назад
GUAP GANG talent gets you no where..it's all about being dedicated and being consistent with your music.
@cloroxbleachjr.5921
@cloroxbleachjr.5921 6 лет назад
Cuz this "music" is fucking shit
@ben-plays5487
@ben-plays5487 4 года назад
Who’s watching this in 2020 ❤️
@Yogripper
@Yogripper 3 года назад
21
@ben-plays5487
@ben-plays5487 3 года назад
@@Yogripper takes me back a year ahah
@GavOasis
@GavOasis 10 лет назад
Noisey has to be up there with one of the best channels on RU-vid. No matter what they post I always look forward to watching it because It's always very well made and entertaining (Back and fourth videos etc). Another good job, Noisey!
@jctrewin
@jctrewin 10 лет назад
well done JME and noisey for this doc. police seem to hinder more than help in this instance. i went to the camden bdl night and like most grime raves its just a room full of love for the music and no tension
@londoninhd4430
@londoninhd4430 8 лет назад
who else laughed at the jammer intro...
@gamesmakehappy5949
@gamesmakehappy5949 10 лет назад
JME is the realest MC and has been from day. Good guy to have representing the scene, smart, respectable, lyrical. Serious.
@isLifeSimple
@isLifeSimple 10 лет назад
This is a powerful way to use film, JME and Noisey productions done a great job
@ogreavesx
@ogreavesx 10 лет назад
Sick... this was well put together and very insightful. It's a shame the Police & co declined to comment but I'm not surprised tbh but having the legal representatives and contributors to grime scene made it well balanced.
@Jooders
@Jooders 7 лет назад
I have a friend that lives in East London and he loves Grime music, met a lot of people in the game. I'm from Chicago and I showed him Drill music
@Yung_Mango
@Yung_Mango 7 лет назад
Judd Grime is better than drill
@JitsuSwagg
@JitsuSwagg 7 лет назад
Nah not really.
@Milo-fq2gy
@Milo-fq2gy 7 лет назад
Yeah it is g
@Yung_Mango
@Yung_Mango 7 лет назад
Jitsu Swagg It is
@JitsuSwagg
@JitsuSwagg 7 лет назад
Mattoafc 789 No I mean some Grime artists like JME, Ghetts, Kano, Lethal Bizzle, etc I just mostly like the black Grime artists.
@rubidonoitesbrancas
@rubidonoitesbrancas 3 года назад
"i'm trying to do an interview, stop distracting me" LMFAO
@User-sv1bx
@User-sv1bx 7 лет назад
I could listen to serious all day
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 7 лет назад
JME and these guys look pretty chilled and rational. It could be a lot worse if this goes completely underground and there is no regulation whatsoever. If nothing else, these guys at least have their reputation to maintain.
@origamisounds
@origamisounds 10 лет назад
The real danger to public safety? When Big Narstie takes his shirt off in the club.
@backupaccount2394
@backupaccount2394 8 лет назад
I'm sorry what JME is a vegan??
@jamesmyers1647
@jamesmyers1647 8 лет назад
He's in a video at nandos with ed shearan and he talks about it
@adoredbeats2266
@adoredbeats2266 7 лет назад
James Myers is this James Myers who is ginger do you remember me bud when you moved to Edinburgh
@brianteo3996
@brianteo3996 7 лет назад
are you Ryan Fraser brother???
@backupaccount2394
@backupaccount2394 7 лет назад
BREEZYT Moonornoon are u Jermaine Moonornoon's brother?
@brianteo3996
@brianteo3996 7 лет назад
No :-(
@EmeraldEmberprodz
@EmeraldEmberprodz 9 лет назад
Bless JME for not getting arrested
@codykeane6107
@codykeane6107 7 лет назад
Imagine where Eminem would be if the police shut him down for shootings at his shows. Never was his fault and it's not he fault of these mcs either
@davidnewton6062
@davidnewton6062 7 лет назад
best vid I've watched in time ⌚ need more exposure for this kind of stuff.. feds should focus their time on actual crime not interfering with the music scene
@dariusmcleish8504
@dariusmcleish8504 7 лет назад
It's mad how far the grime scene has come
@nickbeausoleil2217
@nickbeausoleil2217 7 лет назад
Love how JME genuinely looks like he is taking in what these people are saying and is interested in the conversation
@Sandman0792
@Sandman0792 10 лет назад
Well done for this JME. Keep Grime alive!
@bobphung8710
@bobphung8710 7 лет назад
Did JME just said hes watch anime 24/7
@SnoozeTheRecluse
@SnoozeTheRecluse 7 лет назад
What a weeb
@Mk-fg9zf
@Mk-fg9zf 3 года назад
Suprised JME ain’t done more documentaries as this is quality
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 7 лет назад
This deserves more views 👊
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 7 лет назад
Do more documentaries such as these please.
@soxsmuch8540
@soxsmuch8540 7 лет назад
loads of kids in my school take music like this serious, the actual artists seem really cool and mature...
@S3KCRY4N
@S3KCRY4N 7 лет назад
The only thing I don't like about the grime scene is these kids that think they are tough.
@xVwraithVx
@xVwraithVx 7 лет назад
SUM 1 RANDOM how do they try to sound American are you dumb? Do you even know what grime is?
@comedythegamer3384
@comedythegamer3384 7 лет назад
Ryny like u den
@S3KCRY4N
@S3KCRY4N 7 лет назад
Yea.
@TheLakers2k9
@TheLakers2k9 10 лет назад
Great documentary, eye opening
@harrystcecilia
@harrystcecilia 10 лет назад
Very good doc
@thefoggydewy
@thefoggydewy 10 лет назад
BDL
@dontlookspins
@dontlookspins 10 лет назад
[2]
@thefoggydewy
@thefoggydewy 10 лет назад
Jarrod Dean VOTE BDL
@yolomanswagger3856
@yolomanswagger3856 8 лет назад
JME PLEASE ADOPT ME
@JuliusSpin
@JuliusSpin 10 лет назад
Quite a good documentary. Good to see that a professional voice is coming from inside the community now and that the voice OF the community is not represented and manipulated by others to serve their purpose alone. Props.
@conbo9817
@conbo9817 7 лет назад
Mad how so many different people with different backgrounds and pasts can be connected via one genre of music
@elston1174
@elston1174 7 лет назад
Echo That's the beauty of music fam:)
@dayko1329
@dayko1329 9 лет назад
yo what beat was that at the end?
@NathanBonline
@NathanBonline 10 лет назад
this is so true, a club where i live thats now called pryzm someone got stabbed there all they play is chart music.
@ToneB
@ToneB 7 лет назад
One cop, Two cops Hits ya hard. Being white ain't no get out of jail free card. Three cop, four cop hits ya hard What would they have done if ya skin was dark? USA Hip Hop #1
@OfficialYeat
@OfficialYeat 7 лет назад
USA hip hop is shit fam
@ToneB
@ToneB 7 лет назад
Jaden bourne But what sells more soldier Grime or USA Hip Hop in its current crippled state?
@ToneB
@ToneB 7 лет назад
Real playas Real hustla's busta's still hate us, can't touch us Gangsters still stay up, Double up tha paper we makin, bubble up da Police don't show me no love Cause I don't tell on homies Show love But the young cat's that know me OG's that laced me while grow-en This one's for the home town of Oakland East side, west bound and North Oakland South side stockton and Portland back down to state that's still Golden still blowin. USA Hip Hop
@TheUnchartedGamer100
@TheUnchartedGamer100 7 лет назад
Hip Hop and Rap is in the USA and that's where it stays. Grime stays in the UK cause it's Grime not Hip Hop and Rap. xD
@ToneB
@ToneB 7 лет назад
A-L-E-X A gang of brothers from Jamaica and Africa createed Grime. Let's take the Jamaican( i.e. Arawak black indigenous Indians) They created Reggae right? Then all of a sudden brothers from the USA borrow that sound and create identical Reggae but give it another name or some shit. What you U.K. Dudes did is flattering to USA Hip Hop artist but your biting our music and refuse to give USA emcees credit after stealing their music. Grime sounds like Chicago emcee twists combined with square ass techno house music= Grime sounds. It barely has soul to be honest. But melainated people like Kano, Akala, JME, Giggs and Black the ripper give it essence. I'm a word wizard. Play that game with someone else mate :-)
@Viralshiesty
@Viralshiesty 10 лет назад
dan is right about the football point
@KingBarse
@KingBarse 10 лет назад
This video needs to be televised.. So it can get more publicity.. So more people will start asking the same questions.. So the powers that be are forced to give answers and hopefully change their ways.
@MattyBoyy99
@MattyBoyy99 9 лет назад
Jme sounds and acts like such a nice dude man!
@joebeasley24
@joebeasley24 10 лет назад
Just wondered if anyone can help. At 6.22 anyone know the brand of his hood?
@morgansharkey9777
@morgansharkey9777 9 лет назад
yo man dident know my uncle fergal would be in this man, utter honour!
@Humineral
@Humineral 10 лет назад
I don't think the most important aspect of this situation is discrimination. Artists of this genre generally hold a critique of the police and/or government. In politics when opposition has the potential to pick apart your argument you resort to censorship. If the government wanted to stamp out grime they would simply let these events run and then publicise the "inevitable" incidences. If they really held the moral high ground, they would welcome queries and interviews to strengthen their position. What the government, police department and probably most recent MI5 are afraid of, is the spread of a philosophy of dissatisfaction with the current establishment. Since the riots occurred instead of solving the problem, they seek to suppress it's opposition through removal of freedom and liberty. Grime and "urban" music in general, although unequipped with the conventional jargon is definitely a political and philosophical ideologue.
@TJE.13
@TJE.13 10 лет назад
You make a good point but surely they can see that the number of people who are involved in these events is substantial, surely by removing people's rights entirely your even more likely to antagonise them and fuel the very problem they are trying to eliminate?
@paulgilmour2353
@paulgilmour2353 10 лет назад
Bearing in mind this is no slick mainline TV documentary, it wasn't too bad. But some real own-goals with 'police should deal with the criminality afterwards' and 'I'd never speak to the police'. So, if there's a problem at an event, some of the acts may go out of their way to not assist police when they could. Probably cos they'd get friends / family & neighbours to sort it out... More than likely meaning more violence. Something the average Londoner is sick of experiencing or reading about. Shame. It's a video trying to make a point against critics of Grime, whilst supplying ammunition to those very same critics.
@InstallaFriend
@InstallaFriend 8 лет назад
2:42 "Oohhh shittttt" 😂😂😂
@shauncook1558
@shauncook1558 8 лет назад
"looking lovely" hahahaha
@inactive2766
@inactive2766 9 лет назад
Who else sang along to German Whip?
@inactive2766
@inactive2766 9 лет назад
I drink clipper's green tea.
@jessejones6624
@jessejones6624 9 лет назад
Marie tha Kyd loool pg tips green tea is nicer yo trussss mi dadi
@shrunkninja
@shrunkninja 9 лет назад
Marie tha Kyd me hahaha :-)
@BIG2hats
@BIG2hats 10 лет назад
Anyone know where that beat is from right at the end? Its so SICK, starts at 19:12 ish
@TheKennyboy92
@TheKennyboy92 8 лет назад
So the writer for The Voice just blatantly admitted that she doesn't know what the current scene is like. She wrote the piece based on her experiences years ago and made assumptions based on that. Pretty bad reporting if you ask me.
@datbootythosweetjesus6674
@datbootythosweetjesus6674 8 лет назад
jammer looks like jar jar binks.
@max4046
@max4046 8 лет назад
Darude - Sandstorm
@fredrikfordelsen397
@fredrikfordelsen397 7 лет назад
What is the name of the song at the start? Sounded similar to a Dre beat
@fetheddine1606
@fetheddine1606 4 года назад
Does anyone know what song was 00:31 ?! At first i thought it was stormzy-wickedskangman part 4
@95PW
@95PW 4 года назад
jme serious
@saddrummer
@saddrummer 7 лет назад
How did you miss putting Jammer's "Decline" as the closing music?
@roadmanruby1237
@roadmanruby1237 7 лет назад
Wtf is RU-vid ads a thing I'm on RU-vid already
@benw8459
@benw8459 7 лет назад
Alfie Darling yes
@lukerosetti95
@lukerosetti95 7 лет назад
Where can I find access to the instrumental there at the end?
@anisnane8873
@anisnane8873 9 лет назад
what is that instrumental right at the end of the video???
@MakinaDeMuerte
@MakinaDeMuerte 9 лет назад
This kind of reminds me of the cops/fbi vs juggalos. There is some weird crackdown world wide with music, art, culture etc... very alarming the way the world is headed.
@JasonAir
@JasonAir 8 лет назад
Cool film, thank you. Very informative and yes it's not fair really.
@Huumf
@Huumf 8 лет назад
JA, is that the graffiti artists name in NYC?
@JasonAir
@JasonAir 8 лет назад
+AJ not sure, just came across it on google image and thought, cool! :)
@Huumf
@Huumf 8 лет назад
ah
@robtronik
@robtronik 2 года назад
there should be a follow up to this report and see how its evolved, even after post pandemic to see where things are at.
@BlACK73PaRaDoX
@BlACK73PaRaDoX 10 лет назад
Big Documentary from Noisey as always. Should've played "Jammer - Decline" at the end though lol
@boristheblade209
@boristheblade209 7 лет назад
'I met up with my mate Jammer' I always thought they were cousins lool
@PhysiqalMC
@PhysiqalMC 8 лет назад
People should be able to perform grime music without any hassle, the police just think the music is a bad influence probably.
@KP-tm6fv
@KP-tm6fv 8 лет назад
I don't blame the police officers themselves because as they said in this video they're just doing their jobs. I blame the government who tells the cops what to do. The government thinks that things like grime music change people into criminals and make them join gangs which is a very idiotic assumption; I grew up in London and I've been listening to people like JME for a few years and I haven't committed any crimes. The government needs to learn that it's the PEOPLE themselves who choose to commit the crimes while listening to the music; IT ISN'T THE MUSIC that causes them to do it.
@KP-tm6fv
@KP-tm6fv 8 лет назад
Even if the government bans grime music and tries to shut it down completely, people will still commit crimes; if the government focused on improving people's quality of life INSTEAD OF MUSIC (that everybody enjoys), then those less fortunate people who receive help will stop stealing (or they will steal less). The government can easily decrease the level of crime if they focused on the right things and used their money to help the PEOPLE
@kadkhodaee
@kadkhodaee 10 лет назад
brilliant documentary!
@alistairwakelin5086
@alistairwakelin5086 4 года назад
whats the ID of the beat playing for the credits?
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