Patreon: / thecomicexperience Don't understand the politics from The Phantom Menace? Let us help you with that... Narrated and Animated by Robert Angelli
As someone who loves the EU/now Legends sadly, I've got to say this was very well done! Way better explained and accurate than most other self-proclaimed "lore" channels.
Ottoman claims have been denied by the talibans (as they have been denied by the rebuplicans before the fall of Kabul) : The airport of Kabul will be under Afghans/talibans control; they did not negotiated with ottoman; the islamic republic of Afghanistan, and after them thé talibans regime did not five or grant them any permit, this is why they fled. MEE (an ottoman propaganda agency) claims have been debunked.
This was informative and hilarious! Any chance we can get more videos like this? Since Darth Bane showed up at the beginning, a video about his life and legacy would be cool...
Me? I love democracy! I love the politics in Star Wars. Especially the one in The Clone Wars show. There’s stuff about interests and bills, corruption and all. So fun
Palpatine: *calling Maul after killing Plagueis* "Hey Maul, *hic*, guess what? Plagueis is dead, you're officially a Sith Lord!" Maul: *Gets bisected by Obi-Wan and proceeds to fall down the reactor shaft* Palpatine: "Maul? Maul?! Well... Shit."
would be doubly funny if it turned out palpatine just killed plagueis in a drunken speeder accident and made up the story of a clever assassination to save face
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL THIS TIME! They need to cancel Kathleen Kennedy's weak-ass show and replace it with a House of Cards style show about Plagueis and Sidious!
I actually began to love the ideas of all these things at an older age so yea. Now Star Wars should explore this. Fr it’s really great setup for shows/movies
Even the best laid plans can go awry, and circumstances can change. When dealing with military or economic matters, it’a pretty much a guaranteed fact that you likely won’t be able to execute a plan perfectly, even someone as skilled as Palpatine can only observe as ground level events change the plans. The best plans are adaptable.
@@phantomkryptid2549 there is another factor - the Force. Many coincidences that altered the plan, and benefited him were events manipulated by exceptional circumstances - such as the discovery of the Chosen One. He really had to improvise when two things he planned didn't happened as he foresaw: His apprentice dying, and he discovering a impressionable young boy that was far too talented for his own good.
@@rafaelfarias4359 Reminder, the Force wanted all present Jedi and Sith of the time dead because they kept disobeying it, and thus let Palpatine make the Empire, purely for Luke to eventually end up getting Palpatine killed (except apparently the sequels decided Palpatine was really, really good at cheating death. I don't approve if you couldn't guess).
I don't know why people complain so much about politics in the Phantom Menace. If anything, I think it had the most well thought out politics out of all Star Wars movies. Basically it's about what would happen if Amazon had its own private army of robots and its board members had a permanent seat in the congress. The movie did a good job of showing how incredibly corrupt the Galactic Republic was and ultimately why it ended up becoming a fascist-like regime.
It's all explained outside of the big screen, unfortunately. Instead on focusing on politics, the movie spends time on the Boonta Eve Pod Race Special. It's a nice segment (i love Sebulba's engine sound), but adds little to the story.
@@IronShocker77 It is, but the movie still explained that there was a powerful Trade Federation with a private army objecting to the taxation of trade routes. People claimed they didn't understand what that means, but it honestly seems pretty straightforward.
@@IronShocker77 you can get it also from the movies alone, people were just "reee no politics" so they should shut the hell up they got the sequels no politics in universe only out universe.
I never hated starwars politics like other people, but this made me laugh so hard, imagine me learning real world politics, starwars politics is just better
Mustafa Khan you're an idiot if you believe star wars politics is "better" than real world politics. The wars and conflicts you see in star wars are directly based on real world conflicts. You're either too young or too selfishly stupid to make such an arrogantly foolish statement like that
This was exactly what I needed to figure out why the Federation blocked communications from Naboo. The Senate was meant to know about the blockade, but not the invasion. Not until the Queen signed the agreement to legalize it. The miracle here is that Valorum was still ousted as Chancellor in spite of Qui-Gon reporting the invasion
Because ol' Palps talked young Padmé into calling a vote of no confidence upon Valorun, since he had little power to do anything to help Naboo, and was held up by the bureaucrats keeping him at bay with those accusations of corruption. She straight-up backstabbed her ally for the sake of Naboo.
It's easy, between the title crawl and the halfway point in the movie, Valorum just straight-up forgets he was the one to send the Jedi in the first place. Clearly so senile he shouldn't be in charge of anything.
@@Geesaroni It also says he sent two Jedi secretly and that there’s rumors of corruption with the chancellor. So if the chancellor brought them as witnesses, then that would confirm the shadiness and corruption to the whole senate. Again, this is all in the opening crawl by the way.
.......all of this was literally explained in the movie. Even as a kid I was able to understand this. Comments like this makes me wonder if people even paid attention to the damn movie
@@557deadpool I completely agree, I think this applies to many of the typical prequel “criticisms” that if they paid attention a lot of it would be cleared up. Not all the problems, but a decent amount of them.
@@princeoffools1058You mean when Maul is like 8 years old and being slowly lowered into a vat of acid, expected to Houdini his way out of his chains while Sidious distracts him by telling him his opinion on how awful the Jedi are? In a Scholastic book targeted towards elementary-age children? Yeah
Oh my god I use that same pfp on my insta so I got super confused when i saw this comment cuz I thought I accidentally watched this video again and commented on it lol
Prequel critics complain that the films were too 'political', but honestly I think they weren't political enough. George Lucas should have included this contextual information in the movie, then maybe general audiences would have understood the plot a bit more.
They could have gone either way and been better movies. If you're looking for an action-adventure like the OT, the prequels don't respect your time, with tons and tons of time spent on characters dully discussing things in front of greenscreens. A New Hope used politics to set the stakes to the conflict without bogging down in meaningless detail, and they did it in five minutes of screentime instead of an hour. If you're looking for a political thriller where 'taxation of trade routes' is an actually meaningful phrase, the prequels don't respect your intelligence, pushing over interesting dilemmas on their way to get more fart jokes and podracing and shootbangs. In the end it doesn't seem like the Republic is corrupt so much as that everyone in it is a moron waiting for their turn to get outsmarted by Palpatine. The EU (specifically James Luceno here, NOT George Lucas; he didn't put that contextual information in the movie because that information didn't exist when he wrote it) takes a pretty lousy framework and makes a good novel by actually respecting the reader's intelligence and giving details that matter.
@@IvanKinkle The whole 'the prequels are explained by TCW' argument is stupid. you shouldn't have to watch seven seasons of an animated spinoff to understand the plot of a live action movie that was released nearly a decade prior. Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of Clone Wars episodes are predictable, repetitive and poorly paced, especially the early ones.
7:19 To clarify, this sequence of events is a bit different, according to the Plagueis novel. The assassination attempt that actually hurt Plagueis was orchestrated by a rival senator who Plagueis had previously screwed over. Palpatine then tracked down the senator and brutality murdered him, along with everyone else present. King Veruna’s assassination attempt didn’t come until later. Plagueis waited a little while before going after Veruna himself, where he slowly drained the life out of him as part of his experiments with Midichlorians.
Stop ottoman lies : Ottoman claims have been denied by the talibans (as they have been denied by the rebuplicans before the fall of Kabul) : The airport of Kabul will be under Afghans/talibans control; they did not negotiated with ottoman; the islamic republic of Afghanistan, and after them thé talibans regime did not five or grant them any permit, this is why they fled. MEE (an ottoman propaganda agency) claims have been debunked.
Agreed but now i'm pissed they never showed us Plageus., Why ? He was there with ol palpy right until the end. I've read that the novel covering his death is pretty good.
If any of you are wondering this story is from the Legends novels Darth Plagueis and Cloak of Deception by James Luceno. Both are referenced in the Canon Tarkin novel (also by Luceno) so in the broad strokes at least this is Canon too.
This was very cool- we all knew Palpatine had a knack for complicated, nuanced plans from the Clone Wars, but this video laid out how he used what comparatively little political clout he had to set up the conditions to start the Clone Wars in the first place. I hope this legends material makes it into canon!
Don't forget that he was a Sith after all. A Force user. A DARK SIDE user. He didn't need political cloud when he could just fool people with the Force
Don't need political clout to do big things when you have the force and connections that give you a good look into the workings of the corporate sphere
Well until Disney finds something else to fill in the blanks for the 30 some odd years leading up to the phantom menace i still see books Plagueis and cloak of deception as canon. I mean James luceno made multiple direct references to both Plagueis and cloak of deception alongside a few other legends material in his canon Tarkin novel which essentially canonizes characters like 11-4D (Plagueis’s personal droid), and the Eriadu incident with the trade federation. The only major retcon for Plagueis that I known of is from tales of the Jedi which speeds up dooku’s knowledge of sideous to happen before rather than after the phantom menace
It's immensly complex and difficult to do in a universe with only millions like GoT. To do it in a universe with untold trillions of sentient beings and millions of cultures and an unimagineable amount of wealth, capital, military forces, etc. And there were the humans, breeding like rabbits until they make up most of the jedi, and much of everything that matters. Bc they were willing to do any job. Some humans were anyway.
I've read Darth Plagueis, I have little understanding of politics, so I must of missed out on alot apparently, unless this was from another novel in the same time zone, Cloak of Deception? Btw great video, you explained alot, I like how much effort you made into it and how easy you made it all sound.
There's a little within Darth Plagueis. Such as the working with the Federation and taxing of the space lines and the multiple assassinations. Getting Padame as Queen etc
A big portion of the schemeing and politics in the Plagueis book has to do with setting up the the Clone Wars and how to destroy the Jedi from within. Much less to do with whats discussed in the video.
Alright is nobody gonna talk about how turmoil has engulfed the galactic republic? I MEAN the taxation of trade routes to outlining star systems is in dispute. Obviously hoping to resolve the problem with a blockade of deadly battleships, the greedy trede faderation has stopped all shipments to the small planet of Naboo.
*republic opens free trade zones, causing the rise of the federation* Later: *the republic revokes the free trade zones to stop the federation, causing the civil war* “Wait a minute… How did this happen we’re smarter than this!”
I remember that! It was a fascinating video. The prequels are essentially a giant conspiracy taking place on a galactic level, so it's natural Alex would understand it very clearly.
Imagine if there was an Oversimplified-esque channel that summarized Star Wars politics and wars. This is perhaps the closest thing we have to that dream.
So Nute Gunray became ViceRoy of the trade federation because Palpatine ordered him a pizza. That should be Cannon 😂 Also, I love how he didn't order the pizza yet he still pays for it and intends on eating it 😂😂😂 Edit: TBF he did pay for it
7:33 Palpatine doesn't kill Veruna, Plageius himself visits him in exile and Veruna is "mysteriously" found dead the next morning. Palpatine goes after another senator who planned an assassination, Pax Teem.
"Now, the interesting thing about Muuns is that they pretty much controlled all of the banks in the galaxy, and every single one of them was obsessed with money." Damn, and here I thought Toydarians were supposed to be the demeaning Jewish stereotype in Star Wars.
The demilitarisation was not complete. The jedi were still there, and the Judicial Department had some decent firepower. Plus, most planet still had the possibility to defend themselves with their own military forces. And if something goes really wrong and you need to make the blaster talk, the filthy rich republic can hire a shiton of mercenary and create legions of robots. There are some examples of governement disbanding their army in real history as well. If your country is peacefull, unified and protected from foreigners by some sweet geographic barriers, the need to pay taxes for a bunch of proffessional soldier who train continuously for a war that will never come becomes questionable. Go check out the history of japan
@@romualdcaffeserre6230 1 - The Jedi, already pretty dogmatic and morally myopic, became the "gunboat diplomacy stick" of the Senate. While they claim to be guardians of peace and justice, Windu pretty much admits that they only care about maintaining the Republic alive because "Civilization = Peace" in their minds. The Jedi only settle revolts and disputes, they don't really offer any long-term solutions, because much like every religious nutjob, democrat/communist fanatic and arrogant oligarch, they think that silence and submission is the same as peace and stability. All the Jedi did was silencing anyone who spoke against the corrupt Republic and the decadent "peace" they installed, which is EXACTLY what Darth Bane and his successors wanted. THAT is why few people cried in protest when Order 66 came. For all their talk of being guardians of peace and protecting the people, most of the galaxy hated the Jedi. They weren't as bad as the Samurai in Real Life, but they were still completely divorced from the common folk's reality and struggles beyond "we must defend the Republic and its illusion of democracy". 2 - As far as I've read, the Judicial Department is as effective at settling anything in the galaxy as the UN is in Real Life. As shown in Naboo, each planet depended on their own token militia and praying for the Jedi's aid. Those terrorists Palpatine used to cause problem? Go search "Stark Hyperspace War" and see how THAT went for the Republic in general. That and Naboo is precisely why the Separatists came to be in the first place. The fact that some corporation could suddenly build their own Droid Army and Fleet, blockade a planet and then start a war is PRECISELY why very few opposed Palpatine when he declared the Empire. 3 - Oh, I know PLENTY about Japan's history, but clearly you don't. Japan only truly demilitarized completely after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, because they LOST the war (after enacting so many war crimes even the Sith would gawk in shock) and essentially became a client country of USA (until recently, since they've started training an army again, mainly because of North Korea's craziness, I think). Someone (some say Thomas Jefferson, but some disagree) once said "the price of peace is eternal vigilance". And the failure to understand THAT notion is why people like the Jedi are always fucking up. Having a gun close by isn't to start a war needlessly, it so you can defend yourself when someone INEVITABLY tries attacking you. To sum things up: "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." -Those Who Remain by G. Michael Hopf "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical." - Thomas Jefferson And literally any quote of Kreia/Darth Traya about the Republic, civilization and humans in general. Peace is a Lie pal, as the Sith says, and that's a unfortunate fundamental truth of the universe. There's no such thing as "permanent peace" where everyone can melt down all guns and go Steven Universe or Hakuna Matata. Blind idealism, optimism and pacifism is always the path to downfall and, inevitably, more war and hatred.
The remilitarization is a large part of what allowed for the empire to rise in the first place. And 1000 years peace is good enough if theres only 40 years of complete chaos at yhe end until going back to the status. quo
@@atari947 You're wrong. Having an army didn't turn the Republic into the Empire. Being a corrupt state that thrives on taking advantage of the Outer Rim worlds did. And the Jedi allowed it. The Sith only helped along. If tou think there was chaos only at the end, you REALLY didn't read on old EU lore.
So many people complain about the politics of the prequels, but politics are the best part of the movies for me. Lucas can't write dialog to save his life, but he knows how to write politics. "So this is how liberty dies? With thunderous applause." In terms of narrative depth and complexity, the prequels stand above either of the other trilogies.
The amount of people bitching about the politics in TPM is insane. I've seen 10 year-olds watch this film and explain the motives of each faction or prominent politician and if a 10 year-old manages to display an understanding of this film's plot, then it's mind-boggling how "professional film critics" complain that the politics in this film is incomprehensible. Seriously, it is NOT that complicated.
Great video, always loved the politics of star wars, ads a lot of realism and depth to the world and characters and gives very strong and interesting motivations that actually make a lot of sense.
Qui-Gon's former apprentice, Xanatos, went to the Dark side in Legends. Qui-Gon's just surrounded by the Dark side, it's a wonder how Obi-Wan ever avoided it. :)
@@robertangelli8843 Because people learn from their mistakes, the Qui-Gon that teached Obi-Wan was a far better master than the one who teached Xanatos.
The Ruuson Reformations didn't go exactly like that, and I'm pretty sure that by the time a Jedi was elected Chansellor to the Republic, the Senate was practically begging for their help, especially when the Jedi Lords and Ladies and the systems they were ruling outside the republic were actually fairing better than the Republic Systems themselves.
I like how these universes have factions that are just absolute evil, and then they have the heroes (who probably end up being flawed but whatever) but the publics like "nah take your fighting out of here!". Im sure the good guys would probably oblige, but y'all aint going to be safe from the evil dudes that come back every 5 years lol
This is both amazing and infuriating. If episode 1 was all about this. All about Palpatine’a rise and galatic politics, It wouldve been an amazing first movie. Imagine getting the rug pulled under you that our young ambitious hero was going to be the dark lord Sicidous all along? Beutiful…
oh well, now I wish there were more pre-prequels (made by George of course) covering all this... thank you for this video, added a lot more context! and that ending was gold :D
This was awesome! Is there any chance you could do more of these explaining the politics of Attack of the Clones, The Clone Wars, and/or Revenger of the Sith?
A Star Wars analysis video that's under an hour... no under 15 minutes long!? Finally something that I can watch after coming home from work without losing sleep!
btw great video .you should do more of these. makes me wish the plagieus novel was a fucking movie. like it should be instead of han solo, which I still plan to see anyway.
Dude do more of these. It's genius. I genuinely enjoy the animation and the fact that it doesn't take itself so serious like most star wars political analysis tend to do
