The Polytheistic Origins of God 

Thank you!

" history" - Are you sure? Always check evidence on the both sides.

You are just making up history..

​@@freeliberty5996 No, he's not. According to the general consensus of scholarship *(even critical Christian scholars),* YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts. His pantheon in Ugarit is called the *Elohim,* literally the plural of El. "When El was young, he came across two beautiful Goddesses washing their clothes in the Sea. They were Athirat (Asherah) and the Goddess Rahmaya, and, after buttering them up by cooking a meal for them, he asked them to choose between being his daughters or wives. They choose the latter and became the mothers of the Gods Shachar "Dawn" and Shalim "Dusk"." *"First, a god named El predates the arrival of the Israelites into Syria-Palestine.* Biblical usage shows El was not just a generic noun, but often a proper name for Israel’s God (e.g., Gen 33:20: “El, the God of Israel”)." "I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the sons of El. It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the sons of El, plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, solely according to the number of the sons of El. *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting."* *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* (Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian) *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"* (A second response to Michael Heiser) *"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."* *"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10 - TheTorah.com"* (Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), which appears to be a later addition, Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)* *"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"* (Mark Smith is a Catholic) *"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III | theyellowdart"* *"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"* (Daniel McClellan is a Mormon) *"Elohim | Daniel O. McClellan"* (Refer to the article "Angels and Demons (and Michael Heiser)") *"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."* (Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh) *"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."* *"Married Deities: Asherah and Yahweh in Early Israelite Religion - Yahweh Elohim."* *"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"* *"The Gates of Ishtar - El, was the original god of the bible."* *"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"* (It appears in addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh it also appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort) *"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion") *"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"* (For a good summary of all of the above articles) Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 27:40 minutes onwards. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40. Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"* (By a former theist) Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.

@@LM-jz9vh Bible did not say anywhere that yawe is son of El and he had a wife.. Check Deuteronomy 32..yawe is Ehad.. No creator no son or no wife.. If you get stone from dome where and some thing is written thrre.. You have all the freedom to belive that.. As i am believing in bible.. Isreal was occipied by so many times snd many people try yo accomodate their god to hebew god.. We will only belive written text by mosses.. Liberal media should try something else than this fake news.. 😃

Same. I'm on the lookout for the real God I believed in before doing thr Christian stuff... that stuff made me miserable.

@@FrauleinMuller999 Me too

​@@FrauleinMuller999 Jesus's Father is the real God, not Yahweh

​@@kyranjellerby1764 Christian text just has a habit of mending people together into one. Just like how they mixed Satan and Lucifer. They're two different people. And when I say that I get looked at like I'm crazy

Me too 😂😂😂😂

I think 'volcano' God may have been another deity that got incorporated into the Yahweh body, much like how he took the sky storm aspects from Baal. Anat sounds like a feminine version of Anu who i think was a sky God, again, she may have been tag teamed into the Yahweh mix. I think Mary is an example of tacked on Goddess but not a Goddess worship.

So GOD is men made

Yeah, pretty much

yhwh is Marsian... God of tornados,.,

​@@emptybucket1988god is not for worshiping ... ,, to understand material constants and human body structures lifestyle of the human they designed deities in human form. some in animals form.., some in object form 😂😂😂 to save knowledge with us they preached us to worship them,, but people start saving deities for worshiping them, 😂😂😂

Yea all this makes it to the point that none of it is definitive.

You misquoted and misinterpreted Gen 33:20 El Elohe Israel is the altar in which Jacob built in the Lords name. How much more of the bible do you not understand?

El is El Elyon the father of Yahweh. Nothing to do with Jacob.

⁠@@namelesscreation833no. Tell me where it says that

@DisciplinaCenter El is the head of the Elohim. Yahweh, chamash, Baal, Anat, yam was kids. He had about 70 kids or more. They changed the from polytheism to monotheism made all the dieties one god

And who are the Israelites is a fantastic book just read it today - they say ancient Israelites adopted a pagan god. Yahweh.

What this guy explains is not consistent. The people of israel came from Abraham and isaac and jacob. Abraham was called by God and tbe whole world would be blessed througb him. GOD sent his descemdants to egypt . It is here that we read him giving Moses his name as we know it today They never got the name from canaan but in egypt that is say 3000bc. Thrn they came to canaan ti conquer and settle as home. Which came first in bible Sertling in canaa or egypt where moses qas given Gods name

Thanks so much!

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Me too. New books to read seems like a great plan!

“God is love….” ✝️📜

@@kathleenmann7311 Wrong. Yahweh is war.

@@kathleenmann7311more like god is war. He is the god of war afterall 😉

I’m not trying to attack you but curious how you can say never let your faith get in the way of truth? Without faith (belief without evidence/ or belief despite the evidence to the contrary ) how can you maintain a belief in the Christian God ? As far as I can see the truth is he was a man made creation ? Not attacking but genuinely wanting to hear ? Thanks

@@kathleenmann7311 I hear this from Christian’s but your god calls for the stoning of homosexuals, death as a penalty for blasphemy or working on the sabbath, slavery and sex slavery, rape and torture or children, women as property, genocide and so much more …… how is that love ?

You're welcome! I didn't understand the deeper importance of this video until after I had made it. It pleases me that it has opened so many eyes.

Alot of people have felt how you feel, when you start researching ancient history youll realize its not so simple

Try DMT and your position on super natural will change

Thank you

It really isn't. The dude basically just copied and pasted a few wikipedia articles and called it a day. Did he do any research to address the claims that Parker and Smith relied upon? Did he do any sort of research into how Yahweh might be a result in a shift in language within geographical zones rather than an entirely new deity that seems to have materialized out of the ether without any sort of originating pantheon? Did he do any research into Ea/Enki? What about the Egyptian influence on early Israeli iconography? The use of Egyptian-style seals to represent God? Or that the ark's design likely originated from the Egyptians? Or that there is a considerable amount of crossover of the Osiris cult and the Yahweh cult? Maybe you shouldn't put much stock in a pasty fat guy who combs through wikipedia articles and read *gasp* four whole books. There are dozens upon dozens upon dozens of articles and papers about the origins of Yahweh's name alone. There is no definitive answer on where the name comes from or what it means. It could have been an evolution of the word Ea, it might have been a separate chief deity of a conquering tribe, it might have been a nickname that caught on, it might have been a name invented to distinguish a certain belief regarding El/Ea, or many others. That doesn't even bring into account the issue of etymology; the issue of false cognates or false friends. Just because the words look similar and even have a similar pronunciation, does not in fact mean that they have the same etymologic roots and even if they did, there's no guarantee that they're at all related to the same meaning. For example, a false cognate between Spanish and English is the word "actual". In English, it means real, but the Spanish word "actual" means current. Or rope and ropa. They look like they're the same words, but rope in English is rope, but in Spanish, the word "ropa" means clothes. And that's not even bringing issues like false friends as you see between Spanish and French speakers where there is a shared etymology, but similar words have different meanings. This is just bad research to push someone's ideological worldview and present it as "scientific". There's nothing scientific about it.

@@Hellblade8 Wow, this is a lot! I have some research to do!

Many thanks for your post. Was also looking for that chart.

They are not the same God

@@vanessac0382 They technically are.

@@kennethcox1343 nope. If the bible is true then the Quran is false but if the Bible is false the Quran is false. The Quran claimed the Bible as its source but it was corrupted. The Bible can't be true and false at the same time, because it means the Quran is false. If all of these reasons make the Quran false then they are not the same God. Also God's plan was already laid out in NT. There is no point for the Quran to reiterate it just to reveal Muhammad is a prophet and Allah is god. There is no new Revelation and Muhammad has no miracles. Muhammad can't go against the grain of being a prophet with no eyewitnesses for Allah, no miracles and a Mish mash of pagan and judeo-Christian religion

@@vanessac0382 You clearly don't know what you're talking about lol. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the Abrahamic god. They have different ideas of what he wants and what to call him and different rules they think he has for them, but at the end of the day they all still worship the god of Abraham. Just like how Republicans and Demacrats have different ideas and beliefs but they are still part of the US government system. I can have the same birth mom as someone and still have a way different relationship with her, doesn't mean that we no longer have the same birth mom. Get it?

@@vanessac0382 Also, this doesn't disprove that it's the same god lol. If anything you've proven my point. Islam comes straight from Christianity, and Christianity comes straight from Judaism. All three claim they worship the same god, the god of Abraham. They even all say this in their own Holy books that they worship the god of Abraham. So I don't see how it's not the same god if they literally say it is lol.

So you know more than all these archeologists and their years of research, how?

Two Old Dudes Production channel clearly delineates a lot of what you might be seeking

Zalmoxis-gebeleizis in Dacia, also monolatric gods of son in Rome. Pacha-qamak Viracocha in Andean Region.

No credible scholar believes Moses wrote the Torah.

Sorry, do you think that Akhenaten, the short lived Egyptian 'One God' deity may have had some influence too or are they just similar coincidences? Thanks.

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@@AtheistEdge nice one, thanks. Brilliant video by the way, really helps to inject some sense into all this

Thanks Jen!

In 1910 Ivan Panin, a Russian/ American Harvard math genius and linguistic expert, proved the Bible mathematically. Watch - Math proves the Bible. More recently a 30 year veteran cold case criminologist J. Warner Wallace proved the Bible forensically in his book, Person of Interest. His testimony would convince any jury of the veracity of the Bible. Some of the amazing things in the Bible include the prophecy of the fall of Tyre and the prophecy of Alexander the great. Bible firsts include knowing life being in the blood long before modern science, or the Bible knowing about mountains and currents in the oceans or how the earth hangs on nothing. You should know about the prophecies fulfilled by Jesus and the impossible odds of that happening. The Bible is a reliable collection of historical documents written down by eye witnesses during the lifetime of other eye witnesses. They report to us supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies and claim that the writings are divine rather than human in origin. 2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. The Bible has also been proven archaeologically, historically and linguistically.

It may be worth remembering that vowels were only added to the Hebrew language in the 7th and 8th centuries CE. Before that it was YHWH .... unknowable and unpronounceable.

@@Ridethebomb777 before Yhwh, gods name seemed to be spelled Yhw. The curse tablet found and the stones in Israel growing yhw. Or really, v instead of w. Yhvh. Yhv.

@@Saints_ravenfortheRainbow Thank you for that. Its an important topic for me so I will go do some more research. Cheers.

There was a nearby mountain named YHW (pronounced "yahoo"), which is believed to be the origin of the word.

The father of God is Elohim. Since judeo-Christianity was originally polytheistic, then later became monotheistic as religious leaders over time retconned and erase any mention/indication that the bible had other canonical gods

I cite my sources at the end of the video.

According to archaeologist Jonathan N. Tubb, "Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites, and Phoenicians undoubtedly achieved their own cultural identities, and yet ethnically they were all Canaanites", "the same people who settled in farming villages in the region in the 8th millennium BCE."[5]: 13-14  There is uncertainty about whether the name "Canaan" refers to a specific Semitic-speaking ethnic group wherever they live, the homeland of this ethnic group, a region under the control of this ethnic group, or perhaps any combination of the three. Canaanite civilization was a response to long periods of stable climate interrupted by short periods of climate change. During these periods, Canaanites profited from their intermediary position between the ancient civilizations of the Middle East-Ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia (Sumer, Akkad, Assyria, Babylonia), the Hittites, and Minoan Crete-to become city states of merchant princes along the coast, with small kingdoms specializing in agricultural products in the interior. This polarity, between coastal towns and agrarian hinterland, was illustrated in Canaanite mythology by the struggle between the storm god, variously called Teshub (Hurrian) or Ba'al Hadad (Semitic Amorite/Aramean) and Ya'a, Yaw, or Yam, god of the sea and rivers. Early Canaanite civilization was characterized by small walled market towns, surrounded by peasant farmers growing a range of local horticultural products, along with commercial growing of olives, grapes for wine, and pistachios, surrounded by extensive grain cropping, predominantly wheat and barley. Harvest in early summer was a season when transhumance nomadism was practiced-shepherds staying with their flocks during the wet season and returning to graze them on the harvested stubble, closer to water supplies in the summer. Evidence of this cycle of agriculture is found in the Gezer calendar and in the biblical cycle of the year.

I liked that too.

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Thank you! It's been two years since I've done a scripted monologue. I forgot how much work they are. You make them look so easy! I'll have the audio issues fixed for the next one.

Did you have your mouth full, Granny or had you to fight yourself to not fully appeal to Cthulhu? (ia Ia ftaghn!) ;-p

No Amenhotep III just says that he defeated a people in battle: The Shazu of Yahu. The Shazu are believed to be canaanites who worshipped Yahu/Yahweh.

Does this god you communicate with speak to you?

Two Old Dudes Production channel clearly delineates the differences. El Elyon the Most High was usurped by YAHWEH an imposter devilish god who became the spirit of the Jews and of Islam. Violent, materialistic, low character. El Elyon the Most High was the lineage of Jesus thru

Yahweh has always been evil. He always has been a narcissist who wanted to conquer earth through his (((tribe))). Whatever other goddess you worship I would stick to her and get away from him.

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Yea you notice nobody ever did that in those religions Being a "chosen person" is utter horseshit and always has been self serving egotistical crap

Interesting

It was revealed to him in a dream

@@IAmAlpharius20 what's what they all say

​@@bond3161 DID YOU READ THE DESCRIPTION?

@@user-lz1ci2xb7q i didn't Thanks

@@user-lz1ci2xb7q I didn't actually, thanks for pointing it out

The Philistines were an offshoot of the Phonecians, about 3200 BCE.

The Philistines or Peleset were Sea People and mycenean greeks.

@@MS-Melas Phonecians = the Sea People. And guess what they were before that? Canaanites.

Both religions refer to God as God OF GODS. They never deny polytheism. They only say that he's the King of kings; the primordial god. Hinduism and Vedic beliefs contrary to popular belief ARE MONOTHEISTIC. They believe in many gods, but believe that they are MANIFESTATIONS of certain ASPECTS and QUALITIES of the Supreme God. Much in the same way that blue and red and all colors are manifestations of white light. The Hindu TRINITY reduces these basic qualities of God into 3: The creator aspect (Brama) The preserver aspect (Vishnu) The destroyer aspect (Shiva) All 3 are further reduced until the the PRIMORDIAL God, the root of the universe, BRAMAN (not to be confused with Brama) who is what we think of when we think of "God"/The Almighty

Watch the whole video, the Israelites switched from monolatry to monotheism toward the end of the Babylonian exile.

True. The monotheistic belief was taken from Zoroastrianism of Achaemenids , who defeated Neo Babylonians and allowed Israelites to return and build their 2nd temple. OT was written at this time. As such the only man named as messiah in OT is Cyrus the Great , the Achaemenid emperor

But there was also a pluralistic religious culture in that whole area after that. Many different religious cults.

With more worshippers.

As the tale of Moses was societal origin myth, and we only have a post-exile version of it, the best that can be said is "It doesn't."

The Ba'al Cycle, the Legend of Keret, the Tale of Aqhat, and about 50 epic poems. You're right, El Elyon (god most high) is not a proper name, but it was most widely used by the Canaanites and later, the Hebrews.

Cricket cricket. Tumbleweed.

@@AtheistEdge 😇

Yes, El was always the father, Ba'al and Yahweh his sons. When a few Canaanites split off and became the Israelites, they took Yahweh, then later conflated him with El, once they switched from monolatry to monotheism.

Well, that settles the whole "Infinite Regression" question.

You're confusing Yahweh with "Yahvam" ("the great name"). There is no recognized link between the two names.

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