The Post-Red Pill Malaise 

Once female validation was no longer a "motivator," about 2 years ago, my personal insecurities dissapeared quickly after. The size of my house, the condition of my car, my physic, and my occupation all became completely acceptable. I literally stopped finishing baseboard in my bedroom halfway. I have several holes I cut out in my basement drywall repairing plumbing that I have left so I can monitor my pipes condition aka unfinished. I started to analyze cost and benefit of engaging in "self improvement." I realized how much of my motivation originated in being validated by not only females, but society. I truly started to live for myself and my personal standards and it has been liberating. The mention of equalibrum and pacing is very relevant to my case. I have never been as content and mentally stable in my life until after my red pill moment.

Much truth in this video. I was in college when I woke up. Went from straight A's to C's and D's. Didn't care at all. Barely cleaned up my apartment, barely went out, lost a job, barely kept in touch with friends..... just didn't care about anything. Once you wake up, it's hard to get motivated to feed the matrix/illusion. Hell, it's hard to even roll over in bed. It definitely does get better, but that melancholy and infinite sadness will always be there, unfortunately.

The red pill was the most devastating freedom I've ever received. I'm glad I received it, and tormented by the knowledge of how the magician does her tricks.

The biggest demotivator is having all your work, your efforts, taxed away after you earn it. The more you work the more they take. And aggressively. I'm fed up. Its parasitism.

Another outstanding video Stardusk. I hope my comment helps other men. I was raised from a boy to be a protector provider cap't save a ho most of my life and even continued despite many failed relationships. This was my role my enjoyment, " The slaves happiness". I identify completely with your friends especially your Engineering friend. After the Red Pill I found myself exactly at the point you explain, malaise. These days I contract for short periods, get enough money together then take a few weeks off. I find it increasingly difficult to be around married men throwing each other under the bus, back stabbing for overtime and all for some ungrateful bint. It is also quite dangerous for the MGTOW man in these environments, the resentment can be shocking. Its amazing how little money a single man needs to not only survive but have a good life. My free time and money is spent on hobbies, musical instruments and general interests.

This may be among Stardusk's most important videos. Whose dreams have you been dreaming? Your own? The key to reclaiming one's own motivation, for one's own sake: Think back to when you were child and the first time you climbed a tree, think back to the sense of accomplishment you experienced long before you cared if anyone was watching. You CAN reclaim that. I had presence of mind enough, during my last relationship, to keep a journal. I documented all the compromises, all the demands on my time, all the things I sat aside or forsook to placate a woman who viewed me as subhuman, and behaved accordingly. When I find my motivation is lacking, I revisit that journal and it takes me right back to that prison, to every little thing I denied myself, to every little slight and abuse - to the claustrophobia, the maddening urge to just get the fuck away, to disappear by any means just to feel human again. That continues to motivate me - not with anger, but with gratitude for having presence of mind enough to spare myself decades, perhaps a lifetime, of misery in that relationship - for having presence of mind and enough self respect and perspective to see the relationship, all the relationships subsequent to it, for what they were. I feel blessed for having had an intuitive sense that gynocentrism was a thing, without having any real understanding of it, or MGTOW. It felt like a second chance at life - and it still does. I've haven't been diagnosed with a terminal illness, yet - but I feel like I have already survived one. The mind has a tendency to obscure the unpleasant experiences of the past, as a coping mechanism - but your mind will also cause you to forget some things at GREAT PERIL to your well being, and this is how destructive cycles, like addiction, function.

After taking the red pill I've become the greediest mofo possible, in the same way i refuse to take women seriously I also refuse to lose motivation because frankly, I can't live like that. I deny living without motivation, as I deny living as women's pawn. I desire many things, be it riches, power, pleasure or knowledge, and I refuse to be eaten by maggots without exploring my bounds. Don't forget brothers, desire manifests with endeavor.

The following appears on my personal checks: I do not live to work, I work to live.

I was just sitting around feeling really bad and confused for not being motivated to do more in my life. When you talked about how the lion is lying around all day I laughed out loud and now I feel great. One of those "aha" monents you know? I love it when it clicks like that.

I’m somewhat in this stage now. However I did get that “burst” of motivation you speak of for an entire year after taking the red pill. Lost nearly 50 pounds, gained muscle, got multiple raises at work, put in more hours, etc. but now I’ve come to that point of just feeling “dull” after it all. Part of the reason for this I believe is the same as you explained in the video, I haven’t been with a woman sexually in over 6 months. Not even so much as a form of validation from a woman. Men really are wired and programmed to do it all for the p-sleeve. Whether we’d like to admit it or not.

I feel extremely fortunate to have found mgtow at 18

I think the point that is helpful to keep in mind is that when taking the red pill, you don't lose anything real, all you really lose is a fantasy that never comported with reality to begin with. So in effect, it shouldn't be viewed as having lost something, it should be viewed as having gained a proper perspective on reality. I say the exact same thing to those who lose their religious faith, you haven't lost anything _really_, merely divested yourself of a pernicious falsehood.

I'm 53 and have "dated" over 100 women and I can say, without exception, the worse you treat women, the harder they try to please YOU!

I think I'm just going through this now and it's quite painful and alarming. You could easily get depressed without any awareness of what was happening. Each round of relationship insanity with females pushes one further down the MGTOW road until you are finally 'broken' so to speak. Then what? The silence that has followed the decision to go my own way is like staring into a mirror at a guy I hardly know - so many of my motivations, so much of my identity is/was wrapped around the core of seeking social acceptance and "doing well" so to speak, which in itself really means having value in eyes of women and grading my progress in life accordingly. Now I'm at the point where I'm not sure exactly who I am or what I even really like and enjoy. I have to reevaluate EVERYTHING. I don't think this is a bad thing at all - I think it's important to reframe this period as a golden opportunity and in effect a narrow escape; I could have lived a false life all my life and died that way slaving for a woman who saw me as nothing more than her main income stream...

My bachelors is in music composition and you are absolutely right. I have stopped composing. I used to write a lot during my college years and two years after I finished. Now I barely compose 1 or 2 songs a year. As I started to learn more about the red pill, I replaced the time that I invested in composing on other subjects. I started reading more about history, philosophy, economics and politics. I even did my masters in Caribbean History (I am from the Caribbean) and started to analyze more the contents of what I read. I would also analyze who wrote that book. I wanted to learn as much as I can by my own means, instead of taking the word of another person as the definitive proof. My musical skills have diminished, of that I am sure. But I feel more driven and confident now. I am more focused on my goals and becoming a better version of myself. I am happier and I know that once I start achieving economic freedom, I will start composing once again. Not only that, I will be able to have the time to do everything that I want (including my hobbies). All of these has been possible because I stopped chasing women. I no longer need their validity. I still talk, interact and occasionally date them, but that is it. Of course as a man, I have my physical needs, but I make sure that she knows that I do not want a serious relationship. This is still possible for me because I live in Asia. Women are more traditional here and they do not cry rape like western women do. Once you learn the truth about female nature it is impossible, at least for me, to go back and have a slave mentality of serving women. Women kill the passion inside of us men. They will destroy your dreams. I have lived in five countries and women have the same hypergamous nature everywhere. It is encoded in their DNA. Women look at men for our resources and we look at women for their beauty, youth and fertility. It is supposed to be an equal trade, but the game is rigged for us since the beginning because the state decided to intervene in defense of women, when in reality, they didn't need the state's protection. Women are a luxury, not a necessity. Live free and achieve success everyone. Great video Stardusk. Take care hermanos!

I can relate to those stories. Before I took the red pill or got the reality check, I was an undergraduate majoring in Chemical Engineering and minoring in History. I essentially majored in a field that made money and minor in a field that I was passionate about. After taking the red pill, I saw very little point in working as a Chemical Engineer. I finished my undergraduate but after that, I decided to do postgraduate studies History of Science. That was what I was actually passionate about. Now I did not take a loan or anything, my undergraduate results were good so I secured a scholarship to do my postgrad. Sure, now I am not raking in the cash but I am perfectly happy studying how science and maths existed and evolved through the ages. The scholarship covers tuition fees and my research job gives me some decent money to spend. More importantly, it is fun. There is less stress because I actually like what I am doing. I am also back in running, a sport I used to do in high school but later quit in college because I spent too much time with women, especially online. What's more, I also spend a lot less time on social media like Fakebook or chat messengers because I used to use those to chat with women a lot and now I am indifferent to them. So yes, you lose something, but you gain. Personally, the gain in worth a lot more than the loss.

In my case I had the lack of motivation long before I found out about mgtow or red-pill philosophy. I was also way more interested in my games then chasing skirt in my youth too. The things you speak of in this video... they've been the natural course for me all my life. At an early age I was already like "why put in the effort? My hobbies are really cheap".

I really needed to hear this. Made me feel a lot better about myself. Thank you Stardusk. Thank you very much. 100% respect.

I agree in general terms of "men exert energy for reproduction" but I found after a few years of MGTOW , I actually have gone back to poetry/music/philosophy to balance the existential crisis of red pill malaise. and am now more productive than before.

This is uncannily similar to what many adults experience after being identified as having a High IQ (HIQ, > 2+ standard deviations above average). This is a reevaluation of the self and of one's wants, needs, and potential. There's something akin to the 5 stages of grief (Kubler-Ross) within this process and it may be unsettling.

Personally, I think there are two main drives a human has, the prevailing one is the desire to survive, and secondary would be the desire to reproduce. To me, when a person asks, _"What is the meaning of life"_, what they are really asking is _"Why do I keep going on, wanting to survive"_. Men often find meaning in understanding their environment, and mastering it in some sense. Finding a reason why other things exist gives us some sense of purpose as to why we exist. The secondary impulse, the desire to reproduce, is a much more unconscious drive. We don't really think about why we like the opposite sex, or why obtaining sex or having children is so important.. we just "feel" impulses that doing so is both pleasurable and satisfying. In that way, reproduction is a large part of our overall motivation. For me, that is the biggest after effect of the Red Pill.. finding the motivation to go out and do tasks that I don't want to do. However, my overall interests remain pretty much the same. I don't want to divulge too much personal information publicly, but I enjoy art mainly for the sense of accomplishment. I have never really been emotionally attached to art, I don't really use it to vent.. I just enjoy the technical side of creating something and having it seem realistic and other's responses to it. However, there are plenty of other things I enjoy doing more than creating art, but it would still be a great job to have because I do find it enjoyable and have some level of innate skill. The problem is as you mentioned in your other video about being pragmatic. The reality is that the opportunity to be an artist is relatively slim these days (unless you want to be completely broke all the time). Personally, from my experience, the internet has heavily increased global competition. If people were starving artists in centuries past, now you really have to go without until you get a lucky break. For a picture that I would draw for 50-100 bucks on a website, some kid in Asia is willing to do for 5-10 dollars. Technology itself has impacted art and made a lot of it obsolete, at least without an expensive programming degree. The art industry is also rife with political correctness, and for a white male to make a living you would have to embrace Liberal propaganda. Many attractive women find no problem selling their artwork to desperate men, or housewives who are taken care of can draw anime or kittens all day and find buyers to make extra cash. For a man, you have to have a fulltime job and spend all your other waking moments drawing hoping to catch a big break. It's just unrealistic. My plan now is to drive a truck to gain money somewhat quickly, buy my own house and get far enough ahead that I can eventually slow down and draw on the side while doing local driving or some other work. For me now though, I must make money as quickly as possible so I can get out from under student loan debt, get my own place bought and paid for, and then once I am situated I can weigh other options. However, until that time.. I still have to play the game, which is why I also have to watch what I say publicly so I am not ruined employment wise for speaking out against Feminism or women, etc.

Some of RU-vidrs are God sent. This is one of them.💕

In this regard, it must be difficult for women. They don't have that great motivation to succeed for men and society. How thrilling would life be for you if you were waiting around for someone else to fulfill it? Think of Fight Club. Our protagonist trying to fill up the void with acquiring new items. The shopaholic is notoriously female.

true and honest video. though if i had a choice, i would still have chosen the red pill again and again. i'd rather face reality for what it is than go through emotional roller coaster of the unknown.

Holy shit, you have just described me sir! Look at my avatar, I used to be in a band, heck I have 3 CD's recorded with them, music used to just come to me, but in the past 5 years I just can't be bothered, quite simply, it is "funny" because at some level I miss that "outlet", but I find that I quite simply don't have anything to let out from that outlet anymore

if I remember correctly I was in junior year of high school when I had my red pill. I was extremely upset to know my value as a human, not just as a man, was based off almost one thing only. personnel wealth. killed my drive to get an education and job, and now would rather build an earth home, live off grid and pick up blacksmithing.

Hm, I knew men worked and aimed for high salary jobs but I never really thought about how much of that is due to the expectation that they need to provide resources for others. Certainly not all of it, but I imagine a non-negligible amount.

Spot on. I was a prolific musician for 23 years, after discovering red pill at 37, instantly turning black pill, from the weight of a lifetime living in darkness, I can't seem to feel any will to play music, the validation I pursued my whole life is not necessary anymore and so the creative output was severely diminished.

This is beautiful thanks for all the hard work.

I would never have thought to discuss this unless you posted this video. Its very true, I certainly feel less motivated and for many reasons. For one I will never ever work to provide for a woman, never. And secondly I see a world around about that doesn't really want me anyway. I know exactly what I want from life and that is freedom. But then I know as a man my freedom is limited and the opportunity to work for more freedom is also limited.

The world is waking up, not just to the pills of relationships, but also to the pills of life in general.. honestly its disgusting to accept it all.

I always was a financially-oriented guy, so my motivation of early retirement remained with me even after going my own way. Not having children and a wife makes the calculations much smoother. I'm a software developer. Can't say I love the field, but it's the job I least hate to do. Work hours can also be comfortable if you work in the tech departments of non-tech companies.

I should have found your channel years ago. I appreciate your work.

7 years later and this video is still lowering blood pressure.

Society dismissing men do so at their long-term peril.

necro-posting is valid. Stardusk taught this lesson many years ago. Back then, it did not apply to me. But it does now. 2 years into redpill and MGTOW. I have control of my life. Women do not drive and manipulate me anymore. I am more @ peace.

1:05 "I don't think I was particularly angry, so much as I was depressed, and hurt, and... bewildered." Ssssame. A not-small part of me looks at The Rational Male as being in the same Venn Diagram as The Power of Myth. Whether worshiping the imaginary friend or worshiping the kitty, certain in-groups have developed semiotic systems -- 'established frames' -- to claim a moral monopoly on what is and is not deemed civilized. Folks who are deeply espoused to the religion that they've just-coincidentally been indoctrinated with since childhood have a difficult time dissolving and then reconstructing an existential framework that more accurately fits objective reality, rather than the "civilized" hyperreality that has been fed to them via mass media for their entire lives. The same thing has happened -- fractally, procedurally -- in the wake of 1st Wave, 2nd Wave, 3rd Wave, 4th Wave, and now on to 5th Wave Femynism. It started so innocently and innocuously: Of course we don't want to be abusive and controlling toward women; of course we want them to pursue their strengths and freedoms as much as we do as men. Those core tenets have opened flood gates of unexpected and unintended consequences, and we're only really starting to collate and reconcile it all. And in light of big data and social media most specifically, we're reaching that "Red Pill" moment of deciding that the hyperreality is objectively leading us far enough astray that we can't survive in this gaslit echo chamber any longer. I'll hush up now. Deep doublepostmodern philosophy in the comment section of a six year old RU-vid video. As dead-end as my bloodline, at this rate.

Thank you so much for your incites. We are all going through this reality/journey together.Cheers, all the best!

This is a thoughtful mediation. The subject is being and labor on the one hand, and being and leisure on the other. Gynocentric institutions create masses of selfs built up around productivity, because of course that it what the capitalist class needs and is why feminism is state power. Surplus accumulates to the owning class through wage exploitation and finance (real estate, insurance, lending, etc.). Men have more than one reason to get off the treadmill. I retired early due to health problems. People worried that I would be bored. I am not at all bored and have plenty to keep me busy, conditions allowing. I started playing a musical instrument and so I 'work' at practicing it. And I enjoy playing with a couple of bands. Just for fun.

I got red pilled at age 60 (5 years ago) after a divorce that just about destroyed me. I have little motivation and I drink a lot and don't have much to look forward to in life. I am healthy though and I exercise and and am overall content. I no longer play music or make art or read much. I mostly ignore and avoid women if I can. I have no use for my old blue pill friends and now have very few friends but I don't care.

I have a friend who recently digested the Red Pill. He and I are both artists. He coined the term AGTOW which I really like. _Artists_ Going Their Own Way. I have an ex-girlfriend whom I am good friends with who is like this. She's also an artist who's very masculine in a lot of ways. She essentially operates like a male artist. (Not interested in relationships, children, straight jobs, etc.) She is motivated wholly by her creativity. Like my male friend who recently took the Red Pill and like myself. The idea of AGTOW is that it's not about gender or sex. It's about creativity and not fitting into a social convention. Sex and creativity seem to come from the same reservoir (for some people) and artists will often forego sex in favor of creation. I haven't had some big conversation with everyone in a room together or anything but I see distinct commonalities that seem to transcend sex or gender. The artist may be a bit of an evolutionary anomaly--or, as Sapolski might say about certain mental illnesses, "it's not directly evolutionarily beneficial but it's close cousins with something which _is._" Rather than a drive to biologically reproduce, the urge is, instead, to produce brain babies and those brain babies come from having idea-sex. (Artists tend to coalesce and it may be so their ideas can procreate) So while I have no need to spread my genes, I have collaborated in art-making with other artists and had many, many children, made with hands and thoughts rather than genitals.

I'm currently experiencing this with my drive for creative works & community outreach methods I once entertained. It's not the absolute worst of side-effects to have, but it's definitely noticeable. Great topic!

For me curiosity is the biggest motivator. That is why I am going for STEM field jobs. I love Science!

After owning 3 homes and 3 ranches in my lifetime, (I'm 62) and dating women that are needy the past 24 years, I've downsized to a comfortable trailer, living on my daughter's property. I pay her rent, ride my horses and enjoy my life -with OR without women to date. They no longer control my life or mean that much to me in terms of validity, so what do I care if all I bring to the table is a healthy body , stimulating conversation and not bad in bed. But guess what?? They ALL want a rescuer!! Sorry ladies-take me or leave me the way I am. ha,ha!! I'm not an endless wallet!

Thanks brother, I've been feeling this for a few years. I needed to hear this today. We need to be the heros of our own stories. Decide on a path and get moving. You may stray from your path, but remember life is about the journey not the destination.

My dad, on his deathbed, told me his 36 year engineering career wasn't something he had really wanted to do but did it for his family. . Fucking pathetic.

it is attributed to Socrates that he once said the most prized possession in life is leisure, the only one good in life is knowledge, and the only one evil in life is ignorance, and in regards to marriage either way you will repent it!

I was hyper attracted to females when I was young. I went through a great attraction stage before most men when I was a preteen and young teen. But quickly in my late teens I became what I feel could be described as MGTOW and 6 years later (I am still quite young) I still hold this malaise. I don't have drive, I don't have interests, I just feel a loss of purpose. I still haven't found this equilibrium I don't think. I am emotionally stable, I don't go through deep depressions or great highs, but I simply seldom feel. People become more annoying and inconvenient than useful. The pursuit of knowledge (though obviously I am still taking part) seems less valuable. The problem is in the back of my head I have a voice saying get involved, have a child or two, forward the human species. But then my gut says why bother? The risk and danger I already felt as a teen is being exaggerated by what I continue to learn in the red pill community and drives me further into a feeling of numbness.

Came back to this after some time

I'm only 21 and fresh out of college (so far, I may go back). So I never had to deal with this problem exactly, however I think I've gone/going through something similar. To give a brief history, at 3-1/2 years old I ended up being diagnosed with Autism. This led to me going through 12 years of ABA (Applied Behavioural Analysis) therapy. And a year after wards I ended up doing a co-op related in said therapy, only this time working as a therapist. And at the time I felt very motivated in this field, and wanted to follow it further so I went to college for it. Close to the time of Graduating though three big revelations came. 1) There were more aspects to the field than I had originally considered, and many of these new aspects weren't giving me any level of joy or satisfaction, but rather stress, fatigue and anger. 2) I noticed the path I was taking was one where the career would end up taking over my life. It would require an amount of time and effort that it would become the majority of my life. Time for things like hobbies would be almost non existent. I mean yes technically it's only about a 40 hour work week. But that's just hours in the office, that's not considering all the non-paid stuff like lesson planning, curriculum planning, meeting with parents etc. And I didn't want to go through my life doing majority that, only to one day be on my death bed and only have my history be "Anthony, the therapist" and almost nothing else of note. 3) I ended up realizing that what originally motivated me wasn't really a genuine want or desire, but rather a sort of historical narrative. I had practically grown up in the field, been surrounded by it for practically my entire life. It seemed only natural or destiny to follow that path as an adult. But I eventually realized that it wasn't something that 'I' as an Individual wanted for me or my life. So right now, I've hit the stage where I guess you could say I've swallowed the Red Pill, but don't know what to do with it yet. Some basic ideas, but it's still all very much fuzzy and being thought/figured out.

Took the red pill about 9 months ago. More depressed than ever, anger burst out of nowhere are frequent and all motivation gone.

I lost alot of motivation, I used to work alot more hours for example. Now all I do is stream games and work enough to get by. I began to value free time much more than I used to and I am happy for it. I used to wake up at 6am come home at 9 pm. Fuck that shit lol

This is by far the best explanation out there. I experienced this malaise for a few years. It's a very weird space to be in as suddenly everything that "made sense" doesn't make sense anymore. you just have to stop and re-evaluate periodically. That "losing extremities" phrase really drove it home. So many ideas, motivators, and past times vanish and you can't figure out why. Not to mention the feeling of being lost no matter where you are. It does get better, it just takes time.

Family has been the only thing that matters to me. I thought I wanted kids so my family could continue (I'm an only child) and part of me still does but I think I've entered a self defeating spiral in which that seems like a less and less likely outcome. When the time comes, I will show my parents the love they offered me as they age and death claims them but after that I think that will be it for me. I don't plan to carry on after that. Life doesn't have much to offer me and I'd quite like to be done with it.

I enjoy your teaching. It doesn’t have the political agenda that other MGTOW channels have.

Finding yourself. Pretty spot on. But the person I found underneath is not really the person I want to be. I found myself post-redpill pretty lazy. Most of the passion goes out of the window. With post-redpill you also let go of male-2-male competition and stuff. That is what drives a lot of men unconciously. It turned out that included me. This apathy and lack of drive to get things done and fit in also made me lose friends.

My rage was very subdued; it was a combination of depression and anger. I felt like I had been betrayed by a dear friend. However, I never lost my motivation to do anything because this betrayal actually allowed me to focus more on my dream.

physical activity is the most important thing. if you don't work a physical job make sure you get some exercise and do it outside if you can. this goes a long way to improving your frame of mind. I'm glad I'm outside every day, i could never work indoors again.

After my last relationship and consequently finding mgtow/red pill, this malaise hit me hard. I'm still suffering from it. It has been 5 years. I studied electrical engineering in college yet have no desire to get a "real job." I just do freelance work. Even with all the free time I have, it's so difficult to engage in the work that I do do. My energy gets sapped easily and the fact that I'm an introvert makes it even worse when interacting with other people. The saddest thing is that I do have ideas, interests, and projects I'm passionate about but, again, getting around to working on them long-term is extremely taxing. Adderall helps a little, but not very much. onward through the molasses I guess

I’m really glad you made this video, thank you, because even though Sandman said being red pilled was motivating, I have gotten severely demotivated since being red pilled to the point where it is difficult for me to find a reason to get out of bed in the morning. I’m lost now. Even though I am considered good-looking I’m so incredibly repulsed by women anymore I don’t want to even be around them. Interacting with them is cringeworthy. I quit my high-powered job because I just don’t enjoy doing it and it doesn’t seem to matter anymore. I’m financially independent, and don’t need to work anymore. Combine not working with not dating, and I don’t know what to do. I take online classes all the time now because it keeps me busy and distracted. Temporary relief until the class ends. There isn’t much I care about anymore. Guess I will have to dig deep to figure out what is important to spend my time on. The red pill killed my old self. I don’t even know who I am anymore. It’s jacked up.

This is exactly how I feel. After years of being a provider, father, worker, everything expected of me, I am _exhausted_ at 47. I literally feel like a hose that was attached to me has been unplugged and there is nothing left to give. Esp. Since the end of my last LTR which was draining in the extreme. I'm spent. Has anyone else experience this complete and utter exhaustion, perhaps after a relationship with an NPD disordered person? It is a frightening experience

I like your comment about how you feel like you're much more of an educator now than you ever were as a teacher. Thanks for all you do.

Mens main motivator is providing for children and a wife. In 2023, that’s just not really a plausible outcome for many of us, for whatever reason. It’s difficult to be motivated after losing your family, trust me on that one.

So true, so true. When married, I was becoming increasingly bored whilst yoked to a provider career. I discovered a knack for large art projects and started receiving grants for same. As it started taking my focus away from financial service to the familial machine, the ex began applying increasing resistance until she realized she had more advantage in pursuing divorce/alimony/child support. When the dust settled, I discovered that much of my artistic motivations were born of struggle, and as the red pill took effect, the struggle evaporated and so did the motivation to make original art/music. Now I've cut my work hours way back and perform weekends in a (barely) paid cover band. The feeling of the songs of my youth emanating through my fingers is exhilarating and I get to feel sexy without pursuing sex (viva la sex dolls!). I'm no longer writing the songs and that is totally OK. When I think back to when the bomb dropped, I recall a realization that somehow, some way, I would get music back into my life in a big way. Was there a realization of your own potential for enjoyment of life that any of you might have had when that first red pill hit your tongue? How has it manifested into your life today?

Thank you for your work sir

Mechanical Engineer, making 6 figures, second divorce, up and quit. living cheap (on savings) in my RV. motivation for pretty much everything is gone.

Very helpful. Taking the Red Pill is like detoxing.

Him: "...'why aren't I motivated to complete my engineering degree'..." Me: "...............................................................................................fuck."

The red pill malaise affected me as well, to the point that I stopped pursuing my Masters degree in Accounting because I really didn't need it, and I didn't want to take on a job that was even more demanding. For the young men who get pressured to go to college, especially if you have to pay for it yourself, it's vital to know about these topics before taking out significant loans for a field in which you might eventually lose interest.

I think I red pilled before I had even heard of MGTOW...

My experience has been some discontent and resentment at my ex, but overall this has been a huge positive. Men do things, men lead families, now men can do this for themselves.

Thank god its not just me

Thank you. This has been very helpful.

Well done. Videos like this one make me keep coming back to this channel.

I'm so glad you made this video. I have experienced the same lack of emotional intensity since I came to terms with the state of nature and lost my drive to create. Nice to know I'm not the only one.

What i think is, that there are ways to trick your mind into getting motivation, but what's the point. Knowing that the game is rigged surely takes away motivation to play, and it is only then one can truly identify the question as to why was he playing the game in the first place, without knee jerk rationalization. The question then must me answered weather it's a more happy life to live in an illusion or reality. Though i think best of both worlds can be achieved by tricking your brain, but this is subjective, some may find more happiness and content life in reality others in illusion, or some combination of parts of both.

I don't find my motivation has changed. Though it has become more focused and less based on impressing people. I do things because I want to do them and I do them for making myself happy. I am actually making more money and feel just as motivated to work. I feel even more motivated towards doing things like travelling and exploring since I love nature and history. The one area I am noticeably less motivated is the gym. I used to be a crazy lifting bro but have since mostly quit killing myself in there and switched to more of a health/longevity lifting program. I still go just as much. I find stardusk videos like this a little depressing as I honestly don't want to fall into this trap. I understand where he's coming from and don't really see either of our paths as the 'right' path', but I simply cannot envision a life without motivation. I am too driven a person. Before it was towards being a spectacular mate, now it is towards spiritual enlightenment so to speak(I am not religious). I enjoy nothing more than playing my guitar, walking in the country listening to/thinking about philosophy, reading history or science, learning a foreign language, making my body healthy and productive. But maybe I am the minority in this... I don't know

"Health, psychological well-being, equilibrium, and contentment...These are all wealth." When you're healthy, you likely work out and eat a proper diet, which leads to a fit body you can be proud of. When you digest the red pill and accept the world as it is, nothing really surprises you and you are at least somewhat prepared for whatever life throws at you. If you have equilibrium, you make better decisions and are less swayed by your emotions. Contentment will allow you peace of mind and the ability to appreciate and enjoy what you have.

Good point on 24:20. Reminds me of when Paul Mooney said. The rich man will give you much of his wealth in trade for your sanity. He also said you'll never see a brinks truck following a hearse.

I tossed those gynocentric drives so I can go and discover ones that are more powerful... and personal rather than collective. I dont deny the power of the collective. It has its benefits but overall, a collective is comprised of individuals. What I did is just upped the difficulty a notch or two.

This video is so old, no one is going to read this comment, Stardusk the least of all, but... It's not the lack of motivation, is the lack of incentive. Me personally am highly motivated to do a fair number of things, some I do take forward, but most I have no incentive at all to start. I miss the igniting element. And as a consequence, whatever I do start, either don't get finished, get finished in a rush, or take a long time. I'm postponing so many things in my house, things that would take me half a day to get done, because why? Why would I bother to do it. It would make my life somewhat more pleasant, but I can live with it as it is. I remember the good old days when I would do things to my house and ask the fck hole "What do you think?". Although I didn't care about her opinion, my house is my castle. That's gone.

I have less desire to work and make money...but I find myself writing and writing. The search for truth is inspiring.

I'm lucky really, I never got the anger and I never got the malaise, I think I'm a bit too detached from it all to care enough to get that. I'm also lucky because my interests in computers has lead down a career path to easy work with good pay doing something that is bareable. That's more than sufficient to help me fund my tech hobbies and maintain a banging bachelor pad with all the super cool toys that ever guy/geek could want. I have no drive to further my career really, I do have a drive to push it more towards something I enjoy however which is what I'm doing right now, moving away from being Head of IT to trying to start in infosec/pen testing. The other thing is that I'm really not happy with the tax we pay, I don't really want to earn a few pay grades higher than I am right now because that's just more tax being poured into the system to fund all single mothers support their devilspawn while contributing nothing to society in return. I won't ever turn down more money, I'm just not going to work harder to get it. More men should adopt this lifestyle, and I think more men are given social commentary like the sexodus article. There's too many interesting things in the world now to keep men intellectually stimulated and entertained 24x7, the tolerance men have for women is going down as the world fills with cheaper and more interesting/stimulating alternatives.

I used to be a prolific musician, but the fire has died down over the years, and I think you just answered why.

I'm 38. And now I'm working to become free. when I have enough I'm out of the office. Doing what I love, maybe start a small company. Will take years. But I WILL do this, may it take 15 years. And now it's all for ME.

You can create music or write fiction simply because you love the process, and you love the beaty of them (if it's good art). Many writes say that they can not imagine themselves doing something else, or that they have the urge to let ideas in their head out.

As a religious individual I was taught not make women my goal. I have always been somewhat redpilled. Henceforth when I came to full realization of redpill, I still possessed what motivated me, unscathed, and it actually added to my understanding of the proverbs of wisdom. I have no regrets gentlemen.

I'm glad I watched this video bc I definitely am going through the red pill malaise. I should also point out I'm married with kids. I'm out of work for the 3rd time in 10 yrs and unlike the last few times I have zero motivation to explore the job market. I font see a point in applying myself to earn a wage that I can't spend on myself.

I've been feeling it. I went thought 2 stages of anger, and in between I lack any motivation. Getting harder to live.

I can relate to this so much. I never wanted to get married or have kids, ever. I tried to at least find a life partner/boyfriend/long term relationship because it’s what we are told we should do and that it will supposedly make us happy. But I never seemed to be able to meet the right person, and the no kids thing was always a deal breaker for the decent ones anyway. I had a good career as a vet but I was miserable because of all the office politics and corporate BS. Then I got into a motorcycle accident and received a huge settlement that left me set for life basically. Fully retired at 37. I don’t know what to do with myself. I can’t find the motivation to do anything. Malaise is the perfect word for it. But I read a ton and research all sorts of things, I just let my curiosity run wild and learn so many new things now. But I don’t have much of an output, I don’t contribute anything to society. Very little anyways. Maybe I just need to find the real me that is left now that I no longer need to earn my way, save for retirement, etc. My 2 cents on this type of malaise regarding red pill men, the whole economy is still based on men being “providers.” Their pay therefore has traditionally reflected this so if they work a normal work week they are making enough money to support 3-4 people. It’s shifting away from this though, and plenty of men in lower socioeconomic situations can barely earn enough to survive even working well over 40hr weeks. What I’m seeing a lot of are men that can’t find a job at all and actually will find a single mom to live with for free. It’s a bit of an epidemic. And they seem the same as the men here, no motivation, lay around all day, barely can get anything done. I think they’ve taken the red pill too and have just settled with a woman they don’t really like that much but is super lonely and will let them do whatever they please.

The symptoms are also similar to the effects of being with a narcissist, funnily enough.

Post red pill syndrome for me was buying a motorcycle and saying screw it. To anyone who is suffering from someone truly demotivated from learning hard truths, consider buying a motorcycle and ride it regularly. You'll never feel more free

The fantasy is seeded into us, and is a primary motive for our life goals. Finding that motivation without women is gonna take some work.

I passed this malaise years ago... and now I am good !! but God that was so hard !! lol

This is very real. Your channel is super underrated. Hope you're on BitChute too.

The problem I'm dealing with now. To have a family you're purpose is in front of you. Remove that and you find yourself in this conundrum. At the same time I have the opportunity to do what I want.

The question which pops more bubbles than any other "What is it for?" We seek to better ourselves in order to be a greater benifit to society. Our families, our communities, our state, our nation. Once disillusioned in these things, we need to find a new answer to that one nagging question "What is it for?"

Im 35. Doing it good as musician in a band . But my producing motivation is completly gone, like i had when i was 20. This video holds a mirror in front of me. I was already mgtow before i heard of it.

I really think it boils down to what you want.