Thanks, having specific technical names is super valuable! So kinjit is specifically the backward throw component? ru-vid.comk1Qoyv2_dT4?si=M-1H-JliipxTcgmn
@@forteswordplay kenjit, means to compress, often specificly called kenjit siko, to compress through the elbow, as opposed to kenjit kaki, which means to compress the knee. Ive learned it in 3 different heights and 2 different directions, as well as both on the outside and the inside of the opponents arm. What you do wit the opponents weaponhands depends on the weapon and where and how you ended up there
@@shotgunridersweden Yep. Fundamental principle in Silat - What you can do high you can do low. What you can do inside you can do outside. It's just movement
Ive done this throw in many different martial arts, its super common everywhere. All of them have variations on focus and exactly where and how to break ballance using it, all of them work, all of them have pros and cons. In my fencing ive done all of them. Reading the german sources it is still unclear to me exactly which version is explained. There may be several different or one and the same. To little details and often ambigious explanations
Very cool, any technical names for this technique in the other martial arts? Specifically the arm/weapon wrap + the outside wind/crank to the neck? (I'll also be looking at what's specifically documented in terms of variations & counters in the medieval tradtions in Part 2 next week...)
@@forteswordplay in sundanese silat this technique is known as kenjit or kenjit siko, kenjit means compression or to compress, siko means elbow, so to compress through the elbow. It is most often used in a less rotational manner, more like a vertical compression. In malaysian buahpukul it is known as sebarang, which I dont know what means but think is a reference to turning. In buahpukul it is less about throwing and more about establishing an offballanced position from which you can freely deliver blows.
I don't know much about sword fighting, but what would happen if your opponent would just pull back their sword, wouldn't you run the risk of having the inside of your arm cut?
It's a deceptively strong lock, there's not much chance of getting cut when its engaged. If they do try to pull there sword back from that position then the agent initiating the throw responds as needed.
First, a compliment. I really like the camera you are using. Ok, now the bad part, What you are describing for almost all of the video is not what the manual is describing. It is close enough that I am fine with calling it a variation, but please don't present this as the "by the book" play application. I mean you more or less do the actual by the book technique at the 5:00 mark, so why are you presenting this not manual thing, as a manual thing. That's it, just say: "here is this manual play (show that), but we think that it is a little hard/whatever, to pull off in actual sparring/a real fight, so we like this slight alternative better". then proceed with everything else in the video, which is actually fine information.
Yeah, when I stared out years ago that kind of stuff confused me quite a bit too. When cut with the proper edge alignment, appropriate force etc a well executed cut can do a lot of damage. But if those elements are missing, for example when a sword gets trapped like that so you can't really do any slicing motions directed against the target, the edge won't do anything. Especially since wool and linen are actually quite hard to cut through. Much more than our modern t-shirt are.
