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The Problem With All Quiet On The Western Front (2022) 

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All Quiet On The Western Front (2022) feels like it's missing something. That’s not to say that it's a bad anti-war film, but that the zoomed out perspective overlooks a key part of the soldier's experience. Since we spend more time with characters like General Friedrichs and Matthias Erzburger, we lose sight of the dissociation suffered by Paul Bäumer and his comrades as they are transformed from patriotic civilians into traumatised veterans who are disillusioned with the idea of dying for their country. This theme is illustrated much more clearly in the 1930 and 1979 adaptations of Erich Remarque's All Quiet On The Western Front. This video explains how the 2022 film misses the point.
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Englander, D. (1994). Soldiering and Identity: Reflections on the Great War. War in History, 1(3), 300-318.
Herwig, H.H. (2014). The First World War: Germany and Austria-Hungary 1914-1918. London: Bloomsbury Academic.
Fussell, P. (1975). The Great War and modern memory. New York, Oxford University Press.
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@yakhooves
@yakhooves Год назад
I wanted to love this movie so bad. But the ending absolutely wrecked it for me, personally. The book's ending is so powerful and heart wrenching. We spend the whole book with Paul as he slowly disassociates from his youth. We watch him kill. We watch him lose his best friends. We feel his soul leaving his traumatized youthful body. He soldiers on, breaking slowly. And "He fell in October of 1918, on a day so quiet and still, that the army action report confined itself to a single sentence: All quiet on the western front..." He dies a month before the war ends, and his death is meaningless. This boy we grew to know and care about falls, and it simply doesn't matter to the machine that keeps grinding boys like him and his friends without so much as a shrug. When I first read it it broke me. For me, I really found I resented the ending of the new movie. Him ramboing his way through the french soldiers is silly to me. Paul isn't supposed to go out in a heroic last stand. He dies on a quiet day, with no ceremony or fanfare, our only solace as the reader is that "his face wore an expression of calm. As if almost glad the end had finally come." Sorry for the rant. But this is one of the most powerful books I've read. And I wanted them to capture Remarque's meaning, and it didn't quite do it for me. I really love your analysis. You make really great observations, and I seriously appreciate your insights!
@ThaineFurrows
@ThaineFurrows Год назад
Couldn't agree more.
@mjurskorm
@mjurskorm Год назад
I agree. In my opinion, Pauls death should have been somewhat unexpected. Maybe a stray bullet or a bombardment where we thought he was safe. It would have given Pauls death a stronger sense of meaninglessness and that wars are random and based on luck. Instead the movie portrays Pauls death in a heroic final stand which is only supporting Kantoreks point that it is worth dying for one's country. Maybe it would be cool if the movie ended with Pauls gear and equipment being recycled just like in the opening scene. That way Pauls life would merely be depicted as a small cog in a giant war industry.
@paulstein8854
@paulstein8854 Год назад
There's another layer to the title and the notion of "All quiet on the western front". The original German phrase is "Im Westen nichts neues", which literally translates to "Nothing new in the West". In German, this itself carries the additional connotation that nothing has really changed - not merely that the Western front is literally quiet all the time. If I recall my high school German teacher correctly, this was meant as an allusion to the unchanging nature of war. The eternal day-in, day-out of the frontline infantry man.
@Casshio
@Casshio Год назад
I honestly disagree. His death is meaningless, not heroic. What are you talking about. He mindlessly throws himself into the fight, accepting his fate as part of the war machine. Despite the war being almost over. And then, he gets stabbed from behind. Just like that. Only for the war to end mere seconds later and the soldiers stopping the fighting like someone just declared the end of a rehearsal. And he gets to see that. He faces the absolutely cruel meaninglessness of it all just before his last breath.
@yakhooves
@yakhooves Год назад
To me, he dies like an action hero, killing like an action star, and protecting a terrified young soldier. If you don't think that's hero's death, that's where we're going to disagree. The film resorts to action tropes like "we both have to go for the same gun," a the fake out near death with the drowning, and even the literal "last second death." Those are all pretty standard action tropes that to me, undermine Remarque's message, and represents a major deviation from the book. Even the mission they were sent on, to seize and hold ground minutes before the war ended paints a picture perilously close to a patriotic young man giving his life in the last seconds of the war for his comrades and his country's command. The book ended like it did for a reason. He dies a month before the war is over, not at the very last second. We are told he likely died almost instantly as "he could not have suffered for long," and that "his face wears an expression of calm, as if almost glad the end had finally come." The film had to give us a visceral action sequence that was a tonal shift away from the book, and honestly even the first part of the movie. @@Casshio
@robinannaniaz9670
@robinannaniaz9670 Год назад
"We could be brothers. But they don't want us to know that" such a sad but true statement 😥
@TFW80
@TFW80 Год назад
"...but they never want us to know that, do they?" In my opinion the exact quote has an even more compelling stress on the intentional treacherous lying the masses are exposed to in order to lead them to their mutual destruction for the gain of the few at the top. but i can be mistaken, i'm not a native english speaker.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Год назад
Why would anyone want to be brothers with fascist invaders, again? There's no mythical illuminati world government making people war to feed a blood god or something. Every war had an aggressor. Germany in this case. This story is LITERAL German propaganda trying to equate the German invaders with defenders. Because writer didn't like people hating him and his friends for killing millions.
@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю
@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю 11 месяцев назад
so, this doesn't about our war
@charmyzard
@charmyzard 5 месяцев назад
Damn Brits, am I right? (Edward VII did all he could to set up WW1)
@hegantank6495
@hegantank6495 4 месяца назад
@@charmyzard are you really blaming ww1 on someone who died before it started and isn't franz ferdinand?
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
The issue is that it wasn’t All Quiet on the Western Front. It was a WWI movie that had some characters with the same names as in All Quiet. I was beyond pissed when they didn’t show the home leave and just had Kat talk about it. You can’t have All Quiet without that sequence, it is the crux of the whole story.
@CaptHiltz
@CaptHiltz Год назад
Also leaving out the boot camp scenes was stupid. That was a major part of the book.
@BeatlesUS99
@BeatlesUS99 Год назад
Precisely! It was an interesting examination of industrial warfare and the alienation of troops from the decisions that decide their lives… but it wasn’t “All Quiet on the Western Front.” Each generation has their interpretation of great literary works. Vietnam impacted the last major adaptation and the rise of dispersed conflict and remote warfare may well have impacted this latest version of the story.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
@@CaptHiltz Exactly-that’s when the first illusions are shattered, the first inklings that war is not the camping trip the boys thought it would be. Cutting that out would be like cutting out the home leave sequence…wait
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
@@BeatlesUS99 I don’t even think this qualifies as an adaptation, it is too divorced from the source material and central themes-or, at least, takes the themes of All Quiet but applies them in the opposite direction.
@tekay44
@tekay44 Год назад
they left everything out.
@maartenvandam344
@maartenvandam344 Год назад
What I missed in all movies, but what was an obvious conclusion in the book, was the moment when they entered an abandoned British trench, and found an abundance of canned food that the British had left behind. Much of it had 'made in the USA' written on it. In the book, it was clear to Paul and all his comrades that Germany had lost the war. If the Allies would simply abandon such treasures, they realised they had no chance of winning. The fact that Germany had lost WW1 and that everyone fighting it knew it, was very much made clear in the book. That was the main reason the Nazis banned the book. It told the truth about the 'stab in the back' myth that got Hitler elected.
@Jack-he8jv
@Jack-he8jv Год назад
doesn't make sense, why did most soldiers and the army staff support him then? the book was banned because of its defeatist mentality. (versailles treaty was harsh precisely because the germans wouldn't fight it, even turkey fought back(and won), while the vastly more powerful german leadership were like women)
@maartenvandam344
@maartenvandam344 Год назад
@Jack-he8jv Because he told them a lie they wanted to hear. The lie that they hadn't lost the war, but were stabbed in the back by politicians. The truth is that Erich Ludendorf demanded from the politicians that they negotiate an armistice, because the western front was about to break. Germany had lost the war. It had run out of soldiers, out of food, they were ripping pipes out of the streets, confiscated church bells, all to make ammo out of. It was the military who asked the politicians to negotiate a truce. After the war, they conveniently flipped this around, and the stab in the back legend was born. If Ludendorf thought Germany could still win, why ask for an armistice? That is what doesn't make sense.
@wolfgangbr1576
@wolfgangbr1576 Год назад
​@@Jack-he8jv first of all: "They were like women" is probably the dumbest take on WWI I have ever heard. and, welp, you might disagree with op's take, and tbh saying it was banned for one reason and one reason alone is probably stupid (not that he did), but please re-watch the video where you just commented below - it did explain this part pretty well imho. It was the mentality of us vs. them. The mentality of those civilians making us fight a war without wanting to understand the reality of it. This feeling then transpired after the war (as the video explained). It is possible to read this throughout the literature, it is obvious in most diaries of the time, etc. Soldiers supported Hitler for the same reason people support neo-fascists nowadays - he gave them easy answers. "If only the homefront helped you more. If only you got more heroic treatment. If only the military could stay the most important factor of the state" (which was obviously not allowed due to the Treaty of Versailles). All of this is grounded in stupid group-level identification. And, once again, what the original version DID illustrate greatly, it worked both ways - it is after all, unfortunately, human nature. As someone working in science, I also cannot stress this enough: WWI and WWII taught humanity so much about psychology. So many great theories were developed based on it. And you can see the described mechanisms work everywhere. Especially in your comment :)
@troybaxter
@troybaxter Год назад
​@@Jack-he8jvdefeatist mentality? No, it showed reality. A reality that Hitler didn't want the public to know. Germany was fighting a futile war that even the soldiers knew long before the generals and public ever did.
@TheLovescream
@TheLovescream Год назад
Hitler was elected because of the Great Depression, the myth was merely useful propaganda
@lorenzmaut3708
@lorenzmaut3708 Год назад
For me it just looks like the 2022 film doesn't have the guts to tell the people that the civilians in WW1 were part of the problem, that the war they "fought" was based on pointless and fake rivalries, that the civilians acted more like spectators watching as their friends and family members died and refused to listen to them, the people that enlisted kids for the war, or how they believed that their sacrifice was meaningful, that peace agreements were actions of cowards, that they needed to win the war or else.
@hansshekelstein9450
@hansshekelstein9450 Год назад
I think a lot of media takes the easy way out by saying “Completely evil people in power cause every bad thing” and ignoring the nuances of it all.
@scutterybuttery449
@scutterybuttery449 Год назад
@@hansshekelstein9450 And in a WW1 setting the whole lions led by donkeys stuff is just so cliche
@johnkirk1772
@johnkirk1772 Год назад
I think the 2022 version is quite fitting.. it is in many ways a view on the Great War with documentation of its time but as a reimagination through the lense of our time - there are things that are forgotten and that we no longer comprehend - it does well in showing the industrial scale of the war (to the point that I got goosebumps and sad thinking about how terrifying it must have been in the trenches and what our ancestors/family went through).. but it fails to capture the psychological aspect fully and it falls short in capturing the societal friction between civilian and military life and how German soldiers were unable to reintegrate into the post-war society as a result often joining militias instead.. the 72 version makes very clear that Paul’s ‘home’ is the trench and that he died there before he ever died physically (he can’t draw any reality outside of dead bodies and war).. instead the new film focuses way too much on Versailles and the leadership (as we do in our history classes) rather than the civilian-military dichotomy that led to so much frustration among returning soldiers
@GermanTaffer
@GermanTaffer Год назад
Excellent comment!
@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155
It doesn't have the guts because it's made by modern gutless people. They, as it seems, changed what would have reminded them of the shortcomings, falsehoods and hypocrisies in their own character today. It's made by "Putin bad" and "ship weapons and meat" to Ukraine people. People who shun you and call you the modern media equivalent of "unpatriotic" if you are against all of that but also other issues of modern politics. The kind that thought it would be great to have concentration camps for unvaxxed not that long ago. It's not surprising, they changed it so it wouldn't make a certain kind of people uncomfortable and angry.
@BanditoBurrito
@BanditoBurrito Год назад
I really preferred the '79 version honestly. Even if it was somewhat corny. From what I remember the battles had no music and it was just the blaring sound of machine-like gunfire and artillery, which is better imo. Even specific scenes like him in the crater with the French soldier and the ending are better in the previous versions. Thank you for this analysis dude!
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins Год назад
I actually watched that version from before watching the most recent one. Both are good, but the former is slightly better, even though it was quite 70's from the way it was done 😂
@primepossum6997
@primepossum6997 Год назад
I was shocked they left out the return home in the Netflix version. It's such a defining point of Paul's character
@surjackeroff
@surjackeroff Год назад
@@SirBoggins I watched it in that order too on accident. Thinking I was watching the new one I watched half of the 70's version on amazon prime. When I returned home to finish it and clicked on the Netflix version I was very confused. One of these days I need to watch the original one from the 30's.
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 Год назад
There wasn’t any sound in the battle scenes of the 1930 version either.
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 Год назад
@@surjackeroffmy favorite for sure
@paulaharrisbaca4851
@paulaharrisbaca4851 Год назад
The first version was made within 15 years of the World War. It was fresh in everyone's mind. My mom remembered how the future General MacArthur hosed down and burned the camps of the Bonus Marchers, the Veterans of the war who had been promised a substantial post war financial bonus by the Wilson administration and which they never got, part of the reason Hoover was hated and blamed for the Depression. But it was the unkeepable false promises that they made to keep the soldiers fighting.
@rbf100
@rbf100 Год назад
I may be mistaken but I think the promise to the WWI veterans of the bonus was made in 1924 some time after President Wilson had left office. But the onset of the Great Depression interfered with payment of the bonus.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 Год назад
@@rbf100 It wasn't that the bonuses weren't being paid on time, they weren't due to be paid until 1945. The Bonus Army wanted the government to pay the bonuses early in reflection of the hardships the veterans were going through in the Great Depression, and the Hoover administration refused to do so.
@DasPoop2012
@DasPoop2012 Год назад
how old are you?
@J.G.Wentworth69420
@J.G.Wentworth69420 Год назад
@@DasPoop2012 His age is probably higher than your IQ.
@PolishBehemoth
@PolishBehemoth Год назад
​@@brucetucker4847think about what you said? ehats the purpose of paying a war bonus over 2 decades after the war ended? Yhe soldiers had to live now at the time.
@Sonof_DRN2004
@Sonof_DRN2004 Год назад
I loved the 1979 one. The biggest things missing for me was the scene where Paul went back to Germany expecting a hero’s welcome only to find a ghost town with people indifferent and miserable. Also, the boot camp scenes were great, I loved the part where they pick on their old officer when he finally made it to the front. And his death too. It’s an oddly peaceful death. Sudden, gives the feeling he can finally rest after all the horror and loss. Kind of romanticises death.
@RaveDecoy242
@RaveDecoy242 Год назад
I admire your viewpoint, but I don't think the ending romanticises death. Rather, I think it shows how tragic the war (and the damage to their generation) has become if the only peace they could find in their short life is the moment before they die. The movie didn't say "good for him, Paul's dead and he has escaped war", it basically said "he's a husk of his former youthful self, and he will die chasing the last glimpse of beauty he has seen in his years of war." In a word, tragic.
@Sonof_DRN2004
@Sonof_DRN2004 Год назад
@@RaveDecoy242 I didn’t mean like he wanted to die, but dying may just be Better than continuing to live through all that, with the physical and mental scars. A quick death was better than a drawn out one.
@dimitrioschrysostomou6759
@dimitrioschrysostomou6759 Год назад
I thought the way they showed Paul’s death highlighted how pointless the war was
@OpalLeigh
@OpalLeigh 11 месяцев назад
If I was dealing with trench warfare in WWI I would feel like death was a relief too 😬 war is hell.
@yuksu8680
@yuksu8680 11 месяцев назад
The 1979 ending didnt romanticize the death i dont think atleast in comparison to the new one. He finds himself drawing like he used to, and because of his expression of individuality that the machine had worked to strip him of he's shot straight through the head, his drawing gets crumpled and muddy, and he drops headfirst into the mud. His death didnt have a meaning, it wasn't all that peaceful, and the war still goes on.
@andrewfurst5711
@andrewfurst5711 Год назад
I agree that the 1930 and 1979 versions are more true to the spirit of the novel. One of the worst offences of the 2022 version is the "one last attack" before the armistice. This is at odds with actual history as well as not part of the novel, though it does oddly allow Paul to actually see the end of the war while dying from it. The 1930 version is incredible for so many reasons. One is that it was made so long ago, when so many film techniques were new. Another is that in just 15 months the novel was published in German, translated into English, the screenplay was written for the film, then filmed, edited, and released! And director Lewis Milestone was only 35 years old. Furthermore, the 1930 film deviates from the novel by adding the "butterfly" ending, which is simply brilliant and extremely poignant. The final view of the enthusiastic young soldiers superimposed over a graveyard is chilling, memorable, and gets the intended message across. All other versions after 1930 can refer back to this film for inspiration, but the 1930 film was the pioneer. That it still stands the test of time is incredible.
@derekeastman7771
@derekeastman7771 Год назад
I don’t know what you’re talking about. 2738 men died in the last day of the war.
@Aaron-sx7zf
@Aaron-sx7zf 11 месяцев назад
@@derekeastman7771 it was the French who attacked German trenches on the final day.
@WangMingGe
@WangMingGe 10 месяцев назад
A lot of the participants were probably veterans.@@gatsbygoodwood2575
@azoniarnl3362
@azoniarnl3362 9 месяцев назад
There actually were assaults on the final day of the war by Allied troops..
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 9 месяцев назад
I felt the 1930s one was too sanitised.
@ToudaHell
@ToudaHell Год назад
I only saw the 1930s adaptation once at 15, and the scenes where he goes home stuck with me for the rest of my life. The 2022 version is visually amazing, but it feels hollow. Whereas the 1930s version is so grim but emotional that it forever taught a grade 10 history class that the enemy in war are humans too. They aren't the monsters the propaganda make them out to be. We need to see things from their perspective to understand the conflict. It broadened my very young mind and taught me to see everything from multiple points of view. There's no way a history teacher can show the 2022 version to his class.
@johnappleby405
@johnappleby405 Год назад
Precisely my thoughts
@Proph3t3N
@Proph3t3N Год назад
It's ironic seeing now what we are being fed about evil Russians. We never learn. You'd think typical Russian eats newborn babies on breakfast.
@Batman-ys2qy
@Batman-ys2qy 8 месяцев назад
my history teacher showed the 2022 version to our class and it made it's point very well
@ToudaHell
@ToudaHell 8 месяцев назад
@@Batman-ys2qy isn't it rated R?
@Batman-ys2qy
@Batman-ys2qy 8 месяцев назад
yeah@@ToudaHell
@ghostcat5303
@ghostcat5303 Год назад
The worst thing about trauma is that it estranges you not just from the people around you but from yourself. If you recall from the book, young Paul is full of dreams and curiosity. By the time of his death all that is gone, buried under layer after layer of trauma.
@QueenChristine826
@QueenChristine826 11 месяцев назад
Trauma makes the world a cold and distant thing.
@xpendabull
@xpendabull Год назад
This was exactly my problem with the 2022 movie. If you changed the title no one would ever know it was All Quiet.
@xidada666
@xidada666 Год назад
I texted a friend that exact thought when I was about halfway through watching the film.
@noahmay7708
@noahmay7708 Год назад
If you had to judge the film ln it's own merit then?
@Surv1ve_Thrive
@Surv1ve_Thrive Год назад
It's a good point. It's rather like a different film.
@xpendabull
@xpendabull Год назад
@@noahmay7708 As it's own film it's still good. I still enjoyed it but strictly as an adaptation of the source material I found it lacking.
@hunterdeer6705
@hunterdeer6705 Год назад
@@xpendabullhonestly I felt the same way it felt lacking and hollow. But I thought about it but instead of being hollow and lacking from an entertainment perspective it was meant to make you feel that way, war left a lot of soldiers hollow, empty, defeated, without purpose or rationality.
@crazeelazee7524
@crazeelazee7524 Год назад
The worst part about the 2022 movie is how it completely fumbled its message by making every single French character an inhumane murderer (or an аsshoIe if they can't be a murderer, like Foch). The whole point of that scene in the crater with the dying Frenchman was to show that the soldiers from either side were both just scared young men with no reason to fight beyond "even if you don't kiII him, do you trust that the guy on the other trench won't kiII you?", a sort of "prisoner's dilemma". The movie throws it all out the window by making even a French fuсking child more of a cold blooded kiIIer than the average German soldier. "Why are we fighting the French? Oh yeah, because they might as well be literal demons". Contrary to a lot of people, I also didn't like the ending. The point of the ending in the book is that in war, death just happens. No epic fight, no going out in a blaze of glory. Paul just dies and his death is so insignificant, the report of the day he died simply states that all was quiet on the western front.
@Vendetta_s
@Vendetta_s Год назад
YES. The movie pissed me off with how much they were dehumanising the French, but also too when they raided the trench and went into the kitchen sorta area they did shoot potential French prisoners because those soldiers didn’t aim their weapons I don’t think. Also the unrealistic part was how many older Germans there was, many looked 25-33 or so, which yes there was of course those ages, but they missing out on those that lied about their age 15-17 year olds. The battle scenes are just screaming men, but never the fact that you will also hear them crying and screaming for their mothers. A detail so forgotten. And that goes for both sides too. But of course too the dehumanising on the French. Germans used gas a lot on their unsuspecting victims at times. I don’t get why so scared to show that both sides did horrific things but that others were humane and equally as scared and didn’t want to kill. I recall a moment from a RU-vid video of a ww1 German veteran talking about his experience, he said. “I was at my bayonet ready and the French corporal was also at his bayonet ready. But if he put his hand out I would have shook it and we would have been the best of friends, and I wanted to be his friend .” I know for a fact he would have not liked the 2022 movie.
@thevrana
@thevrana Год назад
I didn't get the impression that the movie dehumanized the French, just that all of their interactions were in the heat of the battle and nobody comes out of that looking good. Teleporting demon farmer's child...that was stupid and not only that it had no point, it undermines the message, along with the ending. While I liked the movie, I definitely didn't enjoy the last 20 minutes.
@SwipSedai
@SwipSedai Год назад
what are you talking about? yeah it's a little silly the kid hunted down kat but that wasn't to make the kid seem monstrous, he was defending his home and property from occupying soldiers. They were stealing food that the family probably needed just as badly, Kat and Paul were obviously the ones doing something wrong there even though it was out of desperation. you just don't see the French's pain the way you do the germans because it's about a german soldier. That was the purpose of the crater scene, the french became humanized to Paul in that moment because it was the only kill he had time to reflect on. The french killed some germans trying to surrender, but americans do that in Saving Private Ryan and no one says that movie makes us look like monsters. And we're clearly meant to understand that it's something the germans do too. I also think interpreting Paul's death as a blaze of glory is kinda weird even though i do agree the original ending is better. He wanted to go home, he looked like he knew he was gonna die, he only went because he was forced to, and in the end he crawled his way outside just to see the sun one more time. Nothing about that or anything in the movie felt glorious to me.
@thevenator3955
@thevenator3955 Год назад
I honestly don’t get your point about the French child. These two German soldiers had constantly been stealing from his father and getting away with it. The two Germans are the bad guys from his point of view, and in a sense in our point of view as well, unless you think repeatedly robbing poor farmers is ok. So the kid finally stood up for his family (in an admittedly foolish way that could have easily gotten himself killed), but I didn’t get the sense that Kat was even mad about it, because how could he be? As for the French soldiers themselves as I recall they weren’t at all any more “bad” than the Germans. It was pretty immediately apparent that neither side ever planned to take prisoners, and it showed that being done by the French and Germans an equal-ish amount of times as I recall. I don’t think there was a single surrendering soldier in the entire movie that wasn’t immediately gunned down lol.
@thevrana
@thevrana Год назад
@@thevenator3955 Let me just recall the scene. Two grown men sprinted out of the yard and kept running for a while full sprint. When they stopped, kid was there to shoot him. Hence, demon kid, with teleportation skills. But all kidding aside, that scene and the ending undermines the message of the movie/book. You may follow them through the book, but they are not the main characters. They are just points of view, one of the thousands. Death can come to them at any point of time, and it's besides the point how. In the book, chapter starts while Kat is carried. You don't know what happened and how he got shot, he just did. And the book ends with few sentences of how Paul was killed in a more or less non eventful day. There was no last march till the clock runs out. He wasn't seconds away from surviving, he never stood a chance.
@oliverstianhugaas7493
@oliverstianhugaas7493 Год назад
Unironically i had the same experience after returning from Ukraine, we were having dinner in a restaurant and one of my non-combat friends corrected *me* in my statements about the conditions on the frontline. All in the year 2022.
@Nighthawk2702
@Nighthawk2702 Год назад
you comfortable with getting more into detail with this ? Id love to hear more about it
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch Год назад
Kinda missed the point there, didn't you?@@Nighthawk2702
@samr826
@samr826 Год назад
@@Nighthawk2702as would I
@scutterybuttery449
@scutterybuttery449 Год назад
@@vazeuax vatnik detected
@yakhooves
@yakhooves Год назад
That part in the book felt so authentic. Paul being corrected on how the war was "actually going" by older men who were never anywhere near the front. You could feel Remarque was perplexed by such an outlandish behavior. Welcome back.
@Anaris10
@Anaris10 Год назад
There is definitely a major disconnect from the first two movies. This new one loses important elements while introducing new ones that fail to have any impact. Baumer's friends are not really "Personalized" so that when they die, it is much less traumatic. Basically "Redshirts" from Star Trek.
@HandGrenadeDivision
@HandGrenadeDivision Год назад
Absolutely. Baumer spends long minutes weeping and blubbering about one friend killed in a trench, and all I could think was - who was he? I couldn't remember his name and he had, like, two lines of dialogue to that point. Why would I care? Film-makers take so many shortcuts now that have no emotional payoff - and audiences are increasingly too distracted to sit through a proper story to get to the payoff.
@imadeanaccounttocomment7800
@imadeanaccounttocomment7800 11 месяцев назад
@@HandGrenadeDivisionI remember when the film first came out and criticising the film was basically heresy, I argued with my friend on this exact point about character development, I told him to name one singular character from the movie and he failed to do so which just proves that there was no emotional connections made at all. Yet some self proclaimed intellectuals have argued with me that it is part of the genius of the film instead of just plain lazy writing that uses the most overused and well known stereotypes of WW1 such as over enthusiastic youth and so on to appear deep and gratify the audience.
@static6003
@static6003 10 месяцев назад
For someone who liked the movie and nearly cried on some points I thought it was well made and personal
@static6003
@static6003 10 месяцев назад
It’s not the names that matter it’s the people who they are p
@bepisthescienceman4202
@bepisthescienceman4202 10 месяцев назад
The closest they get is Ludwig I think his name is the guy with glasses
@troygrindley3793
@troygrindley3793 Год назад
The Netflix film did not truly resemble the actual story. Granted, it was good at portraying the horrors of the war, and the attitudes of many commanders. But the book really aimed at showing what it did to the soldier. Paul comes home and cannot connect with anyone. The old man in the pub, for instance, arguing with Paul about the war Paul is fighting in. The interaction between Paul and the French soldier was nowhere near as personal as it was in the book.
@KitteridgeStudios
@KitteridgeStudios Год назад
True. Calling the 2022 movie an adaptation is honestly a disservice to the book and older movies. The 2022 feels more like an hommage to the book.
@Muschelschubs3r
@Muschelschubs3r Год назад
@@KitteridgeStudios It is only a hommage if it is respectful and affectionate towards the original. This movie isn't. All it is is a testament to the arrogant presumption of the writers and director to be able to improve upon a timeless masterpiece. Hint: They failed miserably.
@desertranger5837
@desertranger5837 Год назад
@@Muschelschubs3r A lot of people including me really liked it, so I wouldn't say they failed
@chrisbarnett5303
@chrisbarnett5303 Год назад
@@Muschelschubs3r where are you getting this arrogance from the filmmakers from?! Seems like projection on your part
@davevanzoonen2747
@davevanzoonen2747 Год назад
For those interested, I also highly recommend Remarque's sequal to All Quiet: The Road Back. It follows the survivors after the war and delves even deeper in the themes discussed here. Excellent analysis of a somewhat disappointing film adaptation
@sergeantsharkseant
@sergeantsharkseant Год назад
Though it’s more of a spiritual successor as no charachter is caried over (they all dead)
@juls5603
@juls5603 Год назад
@@sergeantsharkseant atleast some are being mentioned in the road back by fellow survivors, during flashbacks / ptsd sequences
@randocalrissian4520
@randocalrissian4520 Год назад
I've been recommending "The Road Back" and "Three Comrades" for years. I was starting to think I was the last person alive who'd read them.
@throbbingfellow1136
@throbbingfellow1136 11 месяцев назад
@@sergeantsharkseant Tjaden’s in the book, isn’t he?
@sergeantsharkseant
@sergeantsharkseant 11 месяцев назад
@@throbbingfellow1136 don’t know
@bruhman2089
@bruhman2089 Год назад
I actually like the 1979 tv version of it. Yeah it was pretty cheesy sometimes, but it really is the best adaptation of it considering how it was made and what it included. This version left out A LOT of stuff.
@peterlynchchannel
@peterlynchchannel Год назад
I watched both a long time ago, and remember that they were both quite good.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 Год назад
I’ve yet to see the 1930 version, and the same for the one which came out recently. (The 1979 version is the *only* one I’ve seen thus far) I’d like to see both, *and* read the book, but need to repair/replace the DVD player first for the films…
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 4 месяца назад
1979 is my favorite version. Crazy how a tv movie from the 70s beats a modern big budget film from 2022 lol
@Dertrend
@Dertrend Год назад
I was disappointed they did not include the scene in which Paul returns to the school. It was very powerful in the original movie and had an important message that we should always be skeptical of state education. IMHO this was the most significant scene in the original movie.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
The whole sequence of his home leave is the crux of the film, without that contrast you (ironically) just have pointless suffering for 90 minutes.
@cringlord1920
@cringlord1920 6 месяцев назад
​@@warlordofbritannia So.. showing us the B-plot wasn't a contrast?
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 4 месяца назад
@@cringlord1920 No. It's just more "lions led by donkeys" tropery.
@derkaiser420
@derkaiser420 Год назад
As a WWI buff thanks for this. I still like the 2022 film immensely and would watch it again. But the original film and book really showed how Paul has changed and will never be the same again. I remember watching it as a teenager (I am American) and reading the book and I couldn't believe I felt bad for a German. The enemy. It really made me realize that the First World War had no winners just losers. No one was good, everyone was evil, and the poor soldiers and sailors just wanted to go home. Cheers from Nebraska, USA, Navy vet.
@ivanpopoff6802
@ivanpopoff6802 Год назад
I suspect that it is true for many wars, not WWI only.
@Medvelelet
@Medvelelet Год назад
Yeah, there was no bad Vs. good in WW1. My ancestors fought on the side of the Central Powers, I obviously wish they had won, but no one but the really desperate wishes for the loser of WW2 to have won.
@hueylongdong347
@hueylongdong347 Год назад
>It made me realize that the First World had no winners just losers And you call yourself a WW1 buff. There were absolutely clear winners in the Great War. Serbia and Romania gained huge amount of land, Czechoslovakia and Poland came to existence, Finland became independant, Japan gained land and influence in the Pacific and China, Communists came to power in Russia, Ireland achieved autonomy, women across the world gained the right to vote. Hell, your nation's rise to global power and military hegemony started with this war, American. You better hope Pershing doesn't come back from the dead and slap you for these words.
@CJDunehew1
@CJDunehew1 Год назад
(No one was good, everyone was evil) that’s war in a nutshell I feel for so long both world wars are seen as these great acts of good triumphing over evil and there was rightful reasons to fight. No there never was a good guy and there never will be. War shows no mercy or favor to anyone. As a wise man once said (as long as their is man their is war.)
@derkaiser420
@derkaiser420 Год назад
If you don't mind me asking what side did they fight for? My ancestors were Irish Immigrants in America so they didn't fight in the War.@@Medvelelet
@kingofthefleetians7569
@kingofthefleetians7569 Год назад
I feel like the people who made the 2022 version wanted to make a different movie but weren't allowed to
@sageof6pandas233
@sageof6pandas233 Год назад
I completely agree, this movie should have not been on All Quet on the western front, rather it should have tackled the Vietnam War, The Korean War, or The Afghanistan war, but alas, All quiet sells better, and it is very unlikely it would have been done if under any other name.
@chrismcdonald7086
@chrismcdonald7086 4 месяца назад
The project was very much driven by a desire to make AQOWF, but the problem was they were enamored with their own ideas about it and didn't have a very nuanced understanding of what the book was actually saying.
@bonsai3547
@bonsai3547 4 месяца назад
or an series and than was no money left XD
@RealCodreX
@RealCodreX Месяц назад
​@@sageof6pandas233Maybe because it was a german movie and germans had next to no business in those wars?
@khiemtran8471
@khiemtran8471 Год назад
My father and I both enjoyed the book and we went into the movie enthusiastically but ended up extremely disappointed. The movie really began to flop during the later half. The absent of Visiting home segmernt, Kat's idiotic death at the hand of a child because he stole a goddamn goose and especially Paul's death in the movie. I cringe so hard at the end of how they handle my boys.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
If All Quiet on the Western Front ends with a Rambo-style action sequence, then that’s not All Quiet on the Western Front.
@khiemtran8471
@khiemtran8471 Год назад
@@warlordofbritannia It's literally in the title too
@derekeastman7771
@derekeastman7771 Год назад
The deaths being pointless and idiotic is the point.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
@@derekeastman7771 Really? What’s the point of Paul dying in an entirely ahistorical death charge? And Kat getting killed by a kid? In the actual All Quiet, Kat’s death means the last bit of the world that Paul could relate to is gone, there’s nothing left to live for. His own death (in the movie) is a bittersweet moment, him recklessly exposing his body just to feel a little bit of the good in this evil world-and as the book so poignantly concludes, this death of a character who we have come to understand on such an intimate level is so insignificant to greater events that the German official report of that day could say “All Quiet on the Western Front.” Remember how that’s the name of the story-“All Quiet”? Dying in such a melodramatic and inaccurate manner is simply insulting to the actual themes of the work and all its fans.
@khiemtran8471
@khiemtran8471 Год назад
@@warlordofbritannia I believe he was refering to Kat's death which is still pointless and idiotic in the movie but it deviated from the anti-war message of the book a bit. Where as Kat could have added to the list of nameless soldiers killed on the battlefield, he was wounded and carried back by Paul who didnt realized until he reached the medic that Kat had already been pierced through the head by a stray shrapnel on the way back, its almost like an inevitable death, no matter how good u did, a stray shrapnel can get you at any time. In the movie, He and Paul went to steal goose eggs from a farmstead, they didnt flee very far before enjoying their plunder, Kat went to have private pee pee even though he could have done it straight infront of Paul and it wouldnt be any different cuz their were soldiers. He got ganked by a kid who managed to grab the family gun and sneak out without his family noticing. Now both were pointless, 1 was idiotic but which one was more anti-war to you?
@jakstat9880
@jakstat9880 Год назад
I audiolistened to the book in preparation of the much anticipated release of the the 2022 version. This video perfectly articulates everything I felt, one thing I'd add to your point is that the book compounds the isolation felt by having physical comrades depicted in close proximity to one another such as the bombings of the bunker, the diving into pits during gas, and Paul's fight with the Frenchman, but ultimately needing detachment.
@Baileaf11
@Baileaf11 Год назад
Finally, this film is getting the criticism it deserves
@Asimov_
@Asimov_ Год назад
Thank god
@lubskipunch8706
@lubskipunch8706 Год назад
I mean sure. But There is absolutely no denying that it's good for people to see. I know for a fact the average Netflix watching population ain't gonna watch the 1930 version. Or 79 for that matter. I have 0 issue with Netflix making another version that isn't EXACTLY true to the book or the actual history if it gets them to watch it. It's a TRUE anti war film. And it's in GERMAN. Plenty to pick from each movie. I'd stfu honestly😂😂😂
@Baileaf11
@Baileaf11 Год назад
@@lubskipunch8706 don’t get me wrong it’s a good film, but I hate that it’s called All Quiet on the western front when it’s very clearly nothing like the book
@lubskipunch8706
@lubskipunch8706 Год назад
@@Baileaf11 that's completely fair
@moogiibat5845
@moogiibat5845 11 месяцев назад
​@@lubskipunch8706dumbed down version for the modern dumb people.
@myNameWasNobody75
@myNameWasNobody75 Год назад
The "return home" arc is a must have. Also, too much emphasis on battles, too few on dialogue behind the lines. The ending is Hollywoodian... specially the death at the hands of the boy. The peace treaty arc is supposed to tell us that all the fighting is useless, because the war is lost. In the book, they realize the war is lost (I don't remember any hints about armistice) because of lack of supplies, uniforms and material, and the fresh troops are sent to the front with no training, just to get killed instantly. I guess I would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't read the book before.
@Donnerbalken28
@Donnerbalken28 11 месяцев назад
Worse, they realize that the war is lost when they discover American canned meats in a French dugout. It's so wonderfully subtle in how the book tells the reader that way that a new player has entered the field, one the exhausted Germans cannot hope to defeat with the forces that are left. He even describes the Americans as "plummy", well-fed and motivated guys who aren't yet as mentally exhausted as the Europeans are.
@Mr_Sarcasum
@Mr_Sarcasum Год назад
I thought I was alone in this opinion when I watched this movie with my friends. My friends had never read the book or served in the military, and they were confused why I was so pissed off at the remake. The hatred towards civilians is not only prominent in the book, but it's a topic very very rarely covered in war movies. It's usually glossed over if directly addressed at all. It's an uncomfortable topic, which I assume is why they removed it from the movie and instead gave us the unnecessary B plot line. Thank you for making this video.
@thomasgangl8990
@thomasgangl8990 3 месяца назад
Exactly
@blackshadow7230
@blackshadow7230 3 месяца назад
so what the problem with AQOTWF ? maybe it trying to show us something like .... idk I didn't even read a book but what you're saying it a bad movie ? it's really Good tbh but at least tell me why you didn't like it
@Mr_Sarcasum
@Mr_Sarcasum 3 месяца назад
@@blackshadow7230 It's not a bad movie. But the remake took away what made it special. There are a million war movies out there, some take place in the past, others in the future, but almost none of them talk about the negative soldier-civilian dynamic. Some will talk about PTSD, others how war is hell, but when's the last time you saw a movie where the antagonist was not the enemy army, but rather the very CIVILIANS that the heroic soldier is fighting to defend? It's easy to make a movie about how young men get caught up in propaganda, sign up to join a war, and then die. It's much more difficult to make a movie about regular civilians getting caught up in the propaganda, and then civilians sending other people (soldiers) to die. In the book the hero returns home, and finds that none of the civilians believe him that war can be evil and bad. The civilians are stoked for war like it's a new movie, acting like armchair generals, telling the soldier he's wrong. And what's worse is the civilians never deploy so they never learn the truth, meaning the problem doesn't get fixed. And right there it creates tension, because the hero is isolated knowing that the only person that understands him are the enemy soldiers he's trying to kill. The book All Quite on the Western Front can almost be seen as anti-civilian, more than just anti-war. And that's why it was probably removed from the remake. Who wants to watch a movie that claims that you, the audience member, are the real reason these terrible wars keep happening?
@blackshadow7230
@blackshadow7230 3 месяца назад
@@Mr_Sarcasum I see thanks for telling although you put so much essay about this film but i appreciate 😁
@Mr_Sarcasum
@Mr_Sarcasum 2 месяца назад
@@blackshadow7230 Yeah sorry about the essay. It's tricky to summarize something like that in a few sentences without losing the detail.
@hqwefg
@hqwefg 11 месяцев назад
One of the worst things that the new movie does is follow the proceedings of the Armistice and make it seem like the war is about to end. Even from a historical perspective, it is incredibly offensive how they portrayed the German government suddenly deciding to end the war because a certain number of soldiers were killed, in fact the way the movie shows the proceedings is actually a post-WW1 myth created by the Nazis to blame the civilian government for why the Germans lost WW1, something the movie perpetuates by never showing the slowly degrading conditions the audience is exposed to in the novel and previous movies by skipping major scenes like the training, the leave back home, and the students in the same position as Paul in the beginning. In short the movie kinda spits in the face of the original intent of the book and instead only reinforces the misconceptions it was created to combat and ultimately led to an even greater and more pointless war.
@thomasgangl8990
@thomasgangl8990 3 месяца назад
I fully agree
@OsFanB94
@OsFanB94 Год назад
Personally I think the conversation with the general and his assistant at dinner was a really critical part of this movie. Part of the reason the home front thought it was so honorable to fight and die for your country was that before 1914 war was fundamentally different. His father and grandfather fought in highly consequential wars that forged the German Empire and the stories of those men elevating their country are what the citizens thought their boys were doing from 1914-1918. They had no clue the horror of mechanized, industrial war. That is why the general clinging onto those memories and sending more men to die for the same honor his father fought for really sticks out to me.
@schurlbirkenbach1995
@schurlbirkenbach1995 8 месяцев назад
For the soldiers of 1864, 1866, 1870 till 71, the war was not less horrible. But those wars were shorter and therefore with fewer casualties, and what is the most important, they were won.
@Winaska
@Winaska 7 месяцев назад
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 people often say "the old era were horrible too" but let's be real. In the old wars you moved around a lot, only fought a battle once in a blue moon, and had almost zero chance (statistically of dying randomly from constant artillery fire on the same position weeks on end. World war 1 really was a new war with new horrors.
@schurlbirkenbach1995
@schurlbirkenbach1995 5 месяцев назад
@@Winaska I doubt, that the 30 years war in Germany or the Gothic wars in Italy at the end of the Roman empire were less horrible. Till today you can find archeological evidence of villages, which were abandoned in those days and never resettled.
@Winaska
@Winaska 5 месяцев назад
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 the type of constant combat that world war one soldiers lived with was unknown outside of siege warfare in any previous era. that was my point. civilian experiences are more fluid and varied throughout history. But if you or I had a choice: fight in world war one or in the Napoleonic wars, we'd jump at the chance to fight in a war where we only get shot at one day out of 100 instead of 365
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 4 месяца назад
If it was so important to show that, they should've showed the home leave. It's literally the most crucial part of the book that isn't the ending, which the film messes up too. But the scene shouldn't be in there anyway. It's Paul's story. It's supposed to show his perspective from start to finish. You're not supposed to know exactly why the generals are doing what they're doing. You could easily have fit the same theme of past wars into the home leave, if they'd portrayed it.
@jonno27
@jonno27 Год назад
Despite the name, it was not All Quiet on the Western Front. I felt like I had been invited to see Lord of the Rings, and then spent two hours watching Gandalf and Frodo fight storm-troopers through Hogwarts. It was probably a well made movie, but I could never get past the fact that they pretended it was something it wasn't just to get me to watch it.
@martinheath9973
@martinheath9973 Год назад
I served as a soldier for 36 years. Nobody can know what it is like to be a soldier until they serve as one. Once you serve you will live with it for the rest of your life. There is no way to escape it or run away from it.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
I couldn't believe he didn't go on leave in the remake. That was like the whole point of the book.
@roblesius1413
@roblesius1413 Год назад
I really like this analysis. As a fan of the book and this movie, I do understand a lot of the frustration regarding the way the 2022 version deviated. But one part I felt this version captured amazingly was the scene in the crater where he kills the french soldier. Unlike the monologuing in the 1930s "we could have been friends if..." The 2022 version shows rather than tells what Paul is thinking without him muttering more than just a few words. They definitely did that spectacularly in my opinion
@oliviastratton2169
@oliviastratton2169 10 месяцев назад
The 1930 version will always be my favorite. I think the fact that so many WWI veterans worked on the film gave it an authenticity that no later adaptation can match.
@1dfan827
@1dfan827 Год назад
Brilliant book and I enjoyed the movie but hated how they changed the ending. The ending of the book was so poignant that the main character that we had become so attached to died on a random day and his death seen as so meaningless that all that was reported was “all quiet on the western front”
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 Год назад
It's even more compelling in the original German, I think: "Im Westen nichts Neues," literally "Nothing new in the West" but essentially saying "nothing worth mentioning".
@natsune09
@natsune09 Месяц назад
All the movies miss a huge point of the book by changing the ending, that they have become soldiers that war is an important and integral part of them. The sequel 'The Road Back' expands on this and the soldiers' tough time of switch back to civilians. There is a passage in it that I love and hits home being a veteran myself, "Every man has been tempered through countless, pitiless days; every man is a complete soldier, no more and no less. But for peace? Are we suitable? Are we fit now for anything but soldiering?"
@peterokamoto3707
@peterokamoto3707 Год назад
Being the only one who has read the book out of my friends, I have had so many debates with them, talking about how it was disappointing to me, because these aspects weren’t shown in the movie. I’m actually so happy someone else is saying the exact way I feel.
@jamesstrom6991
@jamesstrom6991 Год назад
The hubris of the screenwriters and producers to think they could improve on a timeless masterpiece. Like a masterpiece of canvas or stone, anything you do to it other than lightly clean it can only detract from it.
@A.Hutler
@A.Hutler Год назад
Well said.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Год назад
I’d bet my left leg the film makers didn’t want to adapt All Quiet, it was just used for name recognition/to get greenlit.
@longforgotten4823
@longforgotten4823 Год назад
And sometimes, even lightly cleaning such works is too far.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 Год назад
The story of our times. Great YT comment.
@lucibvee
@lucibvee Год назад
"Modernized"
@monalucas4254
@monalucas4254 Год назад
Thank you for an outstanding video essay. Your insight and articulation were wonderful and helped clarify to me why the 2022 movie just didn't ring as true as it could/should have, despite some great acting and story-telling. The side stories and lack thereof were its weakness.
@itspeachiie
@itspeachiie Год назад
I love this video! the 2022 adaption never sat right with me, and you were able to perfectly put into words why.
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 Год назад
THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy for seeing all the glowing reviews of this film and feeling like one of the only people disappointed with it. I too felt that the film was severely hurt by the removal of the civilian scenes as well as how it portrayed Paul’s and Kat’s deaths. Kat dying to some random vengeful kid and Paul going out in a completely made up final charge felt incredibly contrived. The film already set up the fact that many German units were mutinying, but they want me to believe that the regiment would follow suicide orders that close to the end? If anything it should have been the French doing that because that’s what actually happened.
@tedparkinson2033
@tedparkinson2033 11 месяцев назад
Its a fantastic movie... But it isn't a fantastic adaption. I'd call it poor even. It feels like the characters names are just added onto a different script. His death is the best example of that. In this film, its a gripping hand-to-hand fight with a French officer, ending in a tragic stab to the back... It has no meaning. Its just an action scene. In the book, he simply stands up, enamoured by the beauty of nature he once loved as a child, and is shot by a sniper... He's brutalised and beaten by the war, and what gets him killed is it isn't complete brutalisation.
@icannon6611
@icannon6611 11 месяцев назад
​@@tedparkinson2033its not the same story, change the name and its fantastic
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer 10 месяцев назад
I switched the new version off when the time jump came and it became clear to me that they had no interest in adapting the book faithfully. I went back a month later and finished watching it. It's an exercise in form over substance. The 1930's version reigns supreme over it.
@cringlord1920
@cringlord1920 6 месяцев назад
​@@Quotenwagnerianer1930s one might be a better adaptation but the 2022 version is still the better movie
@flintfredstone228
@flintfredstone228 21 день назад
@@cringlord1920 Wrong. I think the 1930 one is kinda overacted, but this one was so terribly underacted.
@baasmans
@baasmans Год назад
The problem with All Quiet on the Western Front 2022 is the title! It ends on armistice day! The book ends on a random day in 1917, when thousands died but there was no news… and the killing continued.
@pool5616
@pool5616 Месяц назад
I agree, but in my memories it was in October 1918
@flintfredstone228
@flintfredstone228 21 день назад
@@pool5616 Yes, in the book it is October 1918. The funniest thing about it is that I remember when my sister watched the 1979 film in history class, they all thought that the telegram meant the war had ended, and Paul died three seconds before the Armistice. That's exactly how this ridiculous movie did it
@secularbeast1751
@secularbeast1751 Год назад
Main issue for me was the 2022 movie drifted off into WW1 meta (e.g. the politics of ending the war), which was never the point of the book. The book is firmly grounded in humanizing the suffering of individuals caught up in the horrors of the Western Front. Remarque's follow up book, 'The Road Back' follows the travails of the troops trying to re-intergrate into society bearing the wounds of their service at the front. Also a great book.
@truereaper4572
@truereaper4572 10 месяцев назад
THANK YOU. Finally someone else understands why this new film just doesn't work.
@thevrana
@thevrana Год назад
I'm surprised there was no mention of the ending of the 2022 movie vs novel.
@deanstuart8012
@deanstuart8012 Год назад
I watched the 1930 version as a six year old with my grandfather. In 1930 my six year old future grandfather was taken to the cinema to watch it by his WWI veteran father. He told me that there were lots of veterans there with their sons, and no kids played war games after the film.
@fritzfurz6442
@fritzfurz6442 Год назад
I think it should be taken into account that today's cinematic capabilities are much greater than they were in the past, and as a consequence the focus of storytelling has shifted as well. Older movies perhaps had to derive their emotional engagement and how they transport a message from a wider variety of techniques than today's, which almost by necessity made them touch a wider array of topics, especially when making a film of a novel. Today's films are narrower in their storytelling, but use visuals to greater effect I think, which aids the messages of a film in its own way. More things can be left unsaid, they are shown instead. But some things that cannot be shown are left out as a consequence. So it's perhaps not completely fair to lump them all together. Each film (or work of art, for that matter) is a child of its time, and should be judged as such imho.
@SteelShirt99
@SteelShirt99 Год назад
Brilliantly put
@doigt6590
@doigt6590 Год назад
I disagree. This is a classic case of using the wrong toolset for the job. The film insisted on using all the visual techniques even though they were inappropriate. A good modern film only uses the techniques that are appropriate. It's like shooting toasted bread in an attempt to spread butter on it because guns are more modern and generally more efficient inventions than knives. No one stopped to think if they should do it or not. Because of the evolution of film in modern times, modern films have fewer valid justifications to have flawed storytelling.
@drak347
@drak347 Год назад
@doigt6590 👍👍👍
@OligarchMartial
@OligarchMartial Год назад
Actually, not all the techniques were inappropriate. I think that they should have used the same techniques, but instead stuck closer to the main character and story. And of course, I would like to point out how amazing the original commenter’s comment is.
@onipiper
@onipiper Год назад
This is the biggest blind spot for the haters
@ESCENESCY
@ESCENESCY 4 месяца назад
I am so relieved to find this video. I was arguing many of these exact points to several friends after the movie came out, being the only bookworm. And then I was told I had misunderstood the movie... Its really soothing to see that there are people agreeing.
@Yora21
@Yora21 Год назад
The German title is "Nothing New on the Western Front", with the connotation of "Nothing out of the ordinary" or "Business as usual on the Western Front". It was very much not quiet, lots of people died. But that was a day like any other.
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee 3 месяца назад
My grandfather volunteered and fought in WW1 and WW2. He was already working in a mine at 14 years old and ran away at 16, lying about his age, to volunteer for the Seaforth Highlander Regiment. He was shot and laid on the battlefield for seven hours. Working-class British men didn't even have the right to vote in the UK until after the war. The Germans did. That war won working-class men the vote as they were battle-hardened and angry and would not go back to being told they were not worthy of a vote. They gave wealthy women the vote at the very same time in 1918. In 2018, they celebrated 100 years since some women got the vote but didn't even mention what those men had won. I saw female British Members of Parliament talking about it and they didn't even realise that working-class men like my grandfather had no rights at all in the UK.
@Dietrad
@Dietrad Год назад
The worst thing is at the end of that movie you don't understand why it is called "all quiet on the western front" in the first place. I like your analysis and totally agree. The movie misses the point.
@brocklewis7624
@brocklewis7624 11 месяцев назад
From a historical point of view, you also have to remember that war on the scale of WW1 had never been fathomed by past generations. The biggest wars Europe had endured before then were the Napoleonic wars which were literally 100 years in the past. No one understood the level of destruction that belt-fed machine guns and nonstop artillery barrages could bring. I mean, France literally was still doing Calvary charges on horses when WW1 began because they had no idea how outdated such a type of attack would be. This isn’t to say that war has never not been devastating on the minds of bodies of soldiers, but that the civilians literally could not understand the depths of horror their soldiers were experiencing.
@gognhere1307
@gognhere1307 Год назад
I think Arkady Babchenko's A Soldier's War in Chechnya hits on many of the same points as All quiet on the Western Front, especially the last story about how veterans were treated once back in civilian society.
@drak347
@drak347 Год назад
Ive seen this too many times with modern filmmaking - they simply miss the point. That’s not to say the 2022 vers is not a bad WW1 film, it’s great. It’s just not a good or faithful interpretation of what is a truly masterful, intrapersonal telling of squad life novel.
@starkillerdude1914
@starkillerdude1914 Год назад
I highly recommend watching All Quiet on the Western front 1979. It's worth a watch just for Ernest Borgnine
@thilog5874
@thilog5874 10 месяцев назад
As a German I do prefer the 1930 version. An anti war movie which could not be done better. The German 2022 version is a joke compared to this masterpiece. The reasons have been explained...
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 10 месяцев назад
0:19 ah yes the old hollywood tradition of casting 30 year olds as 'schoolboys'
@winniecooper6978
@winniecooper6978 Год назад
I watched it a couple weeks ago, it left something to be desired by comparison with the 1979 film that I watched many years ago (I haven't seen the 1930 film but would like to). This one I thought was lacking in terms of exploring deeper themes like the earlier films. I did appreciate that it had a distinct anti-war sentiment and showed the gruesome brutality and depraved nature of the war in such grim detail. The opening scene with the uniforms was a great hook to start out the movie. Unfortunately the plot was just too unfocused and inconsistent with all the outside subplots that didn't add much or really tie back in to the main plot thematically, and the dialogue was lackluster at times. Ultimately I was dissapointed, but still glad I watched it.
@bernie4268
@bernie4268 Год назад
I hope you see the 1930 film soon. You will love it forever.
@MrDale53
@MrDale53 Год назад
The 1930 early talkie (once you make allowance for the older cinema style and b&w film) is hauntingly unforgettable. Not least the butterfly on a leaf final scene--and the final montage after that. It was actually one of the few early talkies that was simultaneously made as a silent film--the Criterion Collection edition includes that version, too.
@tankunext81
@tankunext81 Год назад
The 79' version certainly hit the sweet spot between these films. It's a damn masterpiece
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 Год назад
I think the 1930 version is less accessible emotionally for modern audiences because the acting, camera work, and so forth are extremely dated - movies back then tended to be shot and edited with the intention of making them look like stage plays, while modern movies and particularly war movies tend a lot more to verisimilitude and the old movies look stilted and staged to a modern viewer.
@Bishrekual
@Bishrekual Год назад
I liked the 79 version apart from the ending. Getting shot while drawing the dove of peace was a bit too on the nose
@Mars_junior
@Mars_junior 11 месяцев назад
After getting two films that follow the book perfectly, I was perfectly happy with a different telling. It could have probably gone by a different title though.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 4 месяца назад
This one should've followed the book perfectly too, just updating the visual effects and editing to communicate the intensity of the war more. It did the latter, and failed on the former.
@coleparker
@coleparker Год назад
I read the book when I was in Jr. High School in the 60s and was really stunned by it. I also saw the 1930s film, parts of which were film in the area where I was living at that time. Between the three films, I thought the 1930s film was closer to the book than the other two and the charging scenes of soldiers was really horrific. One thing should be mention, in the 1930s films many of the extras in the battle scenes were veterans, both American and German of the conflict.
@davidmeehan4486
@davidmeehan4486 Год назад
I've read the book and watched all three (I think there are only three) film adaptations. I recommend you do the same. They're all good. They all have something worthwhile for you to hear. My favorite part of the book is at the beginning when Paul says how, although we made fun of our fathers' generation, deep down we respected and looked up to them. Yet, they led us so badly astray that in the end we felt betrayed by them. This is very close to my feelings as a veteran of the Bush-era invasion and occupation of Iraq. I've had quite a while to think on that one and I cannot escape the conclusion that it was a colossal blunder. The trust that I placed in my leaders when I enlisted was betrayed by their bad judgement and people I served with paid with their lives.
@steaky6523
@steaky6523 Год назад
My one gripe with the 2022 version is that they shoot his death as a cinematic scene where he is witnessing and reflecting on the war. Originally he was shot like anyone else and just died. No cinematic scene or chance to reflect just a meaningless death. And it hits so fucking hard
@VlogCity
@VlogCity Год назад
I'm amazed that this movie looks so good, and they didn't bother making sure the actor displayed gun recoil. Immediately takes you out of the film.
@kingjoe3rd
@kingjoe3rd 7 месяцев назад
The 2022 version of this movie didn't show the camaraderie and pain of loss of losing each friend slowly, one by one, the pain Paul suffered from going back home on leave and seeing his family. He never got to leave, and all of his classmates were killed immediately when they all got there. For as low budget as the 1979 version was, it was still superior.
@eskillarsson3418
@eskillarsson3418 Год назад
I saw the 2022 film a few months ago, and I now finished re-reading the book (I had somewhat read it in school years ago). Your analysis has made me think of the book more and the different focuses of the 2022 film, differences which I too took note of when reading. I am going to watch the 1930 film, as it seem to be a much closer adaptation to the book. Great video essay.
@spinosaurusiii7027
@spinosaurusiii7027 Год назад
The 1979, which too is a very good adaptation of the book, is here on youtube for free, should you wish to see it.
@solidhqx
@solidhqx Год назад
As someone deeply familiar with the raw portrayal of war in the original “All Quiet on the Western Front” novel and its earlier film adaptations, I approached the 2022 version with high hopes. Unfortunately, it left me deeply disappointed. The film rushes us into action scenes without adequately introducing the characters, a move that undercuts the potential for deeper emotional impact despite the commendable cinematography. The 2022 version, despite having very graphical scenes, didn't hit as hard as the earlier ones due to poor character development.. Also, something was off, making it feel less authentic.
@EUSA1776
@EUSA1776 Год назад
The ‘22 version felt so empty without the return home and the ending. It’s like they took the best parts of the book out to replace it with generic ‘war is bad’ social commentary. Hollywood cannot create anymore.
@CorbCorbin
@CorbCorbin Год назад
Exceptional work
@harrisonrawlinson5650
@harrisonrawlinson5650 Год назад
I have not read the book, or watched the other adaptions of All Quiet On The Western Front so my perspective is perhaps different as I am not able to compare it. I found this to be a really powerful film, I don't think I have ever seen a war film that was truly anti-war until I saw this. People like to point towards films like American sniper or 1917, but both have the hero being brave and saving the day. All Quiet On The Western Front by contrast truly shows what a horrible existence life in the trenches was for millions of men, it shows how pointless the death was and how the men really were just tiny cogs in a very large killing machine controlled by disconnected mad men.
@codym2903
@codym2903 Год назад
It would be better if it was not trying to be a retelling of the book and previous two movies. It misses a lot of the spirit of the book that the other two capture. The 2022 version is a solid WWI movie, but it's not a good All Quiet on the Western Front movie.
@greyfox3303
@greyfox3303 Год назад
It's a good film but it's just using characters from all quiet ,the 79 film and 1930s one are memorable
@themistva
@themistva 10 дней назад
Well that’s the thing. It’s a good anti war movie. It’s just not a good adaptation of the novel it takes its name from.
@mircovannucchi6600
@mircovannucchi6600 4 месяца назад
My grandfather William was born in 1887. Italian front, Alpini Fiamme Verdi. From Isonzo to Piave, Caporetto, Vidor, Solstizio in first wave bayonet assaults. The hell on earth. He was a survivor. Rip. MV
@destine1547
@destine1547 Год назад
So happy this video exists. I think the 2022 was good but there’s main thematic elements missing the full purpose of the source material.
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 Год назад
... there are* elements missing ...
@michaelhughes4983
@michaelhughes4983 Год назад
My opinion on why you require the "zoomed out" approach as it were, is because we are now too well aware of PTSD etc. In the 30' and even as late as the 90s we were not really taking this seriously. We get it. The watchers of the series get it. The Director gets it. What is lost... after a generation brought up on the war on terror, remote killings and CNN/BBC sanitized War reporting, the true horror of the first and second world wars needs repeating (unfortunately). We don't need the subtlety here.... we need the horror. Now, as we see similar warfare being borne out in Ukraine, the fact that the big nation state warfare was essentially removed from doctrine is being shown up. This is the right series, at the right time and done in the right way.
@JohnRRyder
@JohnRRyder Год назад
Glad my World History teacher showed me the original a few years before this came out. Watching this with my friends I couldn't help but keep comparing the two. While this one's ending was well done (I never personally knew about the "last minute battle", so seeing it in film and then looking it up to read the actual event was certainly an experience.), I still prefer the original, the quiet almost peaceful mood and atmosphere with Paul finally, FINALLY taking a moment to remember his innocence with his art...only to be cut short by a enemy sniper. It just hits that mark and still haunts me to this day. I respect and enjoyed the new film. But I encourage others to watch the original and compare with version you like more. If nothing else, they both will defintely reinforce the point of how meaningless the entire war was (in terms of life lost and potential futures squashed for so many talented youths)
@thomasgangl8990
@thomasgangl8990 3 месяца назад
As far as I know there was no such thing as last attack virtually minutes before the armistice. Indeed such notions existed in the German officers corp, but the common soldiers we're not for it. In November 1918 the German Navy commanders were about to order the battlefleet to challenge the Royal Navy to a last glorious battle to go down with glory. The sailors prevented this by revolting and triggered a full blown revolution throughout Germany that swept away the Kaiser.
@algardaus
@algardaus 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Jake. I am a child of the GWOT, I signed on the dotted line in 2008 and swore my oath to the country. I cannot tell you how much I despise civilian discourse, they will do anything other than just love their fellow human. They will choose to hate because of gender, race and sexuality instead of appreciating what many of my friends died for. I cannot tell you how much I truly hate most left wing and most right wing politicians as the preach to me about identity and seek to make me hate my brothers and sisters. I know you haven't solved anything today, but I feel like a scarred digger millennial is less lonely for a moment.
@verkku4301
@verkku4301 Год назад
What a fantastic analysis. As someone who knew of the previous film adaptations but had only seen the new one this puts things into a greater perspective. I think that all of the versions are important in their own ways. However I will agree that the previous adaptations did a better job at portraying the conflict from a more common perspective rather than that written on the history books. Most men involved with the conflict weren't there when the peace treaty was signed, or when the military leaders themselves made decisions for the lives of millions. It would be nice to see our species learn from the subject that most people fall asleep to during class. I understand why that happens, the faults of the educational systems generally teaching the subject in a less interesting and engaging way and most people's general grasp of history's actual importance. Learning from our mistakes is one of the key elements in improving our selves as a species yet most people don't seem to give a dang about it. I understand that the matters in our personal lives probably don't get us all that interested when it comes to learning about some of the most horrific events in human history but I'd argue that people shouldn't be afraid to confront reality.
@thomasgangl8990
@thomasgangl8990 3 месяца назад
It is interesting that you mention the boredom of history classes. I used to be a history teacher myself and I learned quickly that no one cares about treaties, kings and what not. Give your students something they can relate to and things change quickly. I didn't have the technical means then but I would show my students original pictures of WW I and read contemporary letters and diary entries of normal people to them. It always worked, because history is always about people, and if you can relate to them you get an entirely different perspective.
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee 3 месяца назад
I wanted to say that my father said my grandfather was damaged for his entire life by what he had been through. The horrors of WWI and WW2. The trenches was something above and beyond WW2 though. Going over again and again and watching all your friends die and being forced to form together with whoever was left from other groups and told to go again. Even my mother and father went through the bombing in WW2 and it was something that marked that entire generation. Strangely, British civilians remembered those times with a sort of nostalgia. I am glad I got to know that generation so well.
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 Год назад
A lot of interesting videos have been coming up for me lately. I'm new to your channel but do whatch several history channels, covering many eras. I remember briefly touching on All Quiet at school, but it was only a side note. This has been such an interesting comparison and you have a real gift for storytelling.
@PxThucydides
@PxThucydides 2 месяца назад
One thing that has always struck me is how evocative and utterly perfect the book's title is in English- which it is not in German! Because the German title is simply "Im Westen nichts Neues", which literally translated is, "In the west nothing new." Not "An der Westfront ist alles ruhig". The English version takes a great liberty with the translation, and is incredibly poetic, where the original is not.
@Norbert_Sattler
@Norbert_Sattler Год назад
I hate this trend of making a new movie with the same title as the old one and yet making it fundamentally different. They wouldn't even have needed to change anything about the movie itself, just given it a different name and let it stand side-by-side with the previous movies, to complement each other with wider perspectices, rather than trying to replace them.
@jayfrank1913
@jayfrank1913 Год назад
Having Paul death occur moments before the end of the war was a bit on the nose. It diminishes Remarque's depiction of the randomness and absurdity of war. Edit: yakhooves makes this point more eloquently than I did, below
@joehalliday6963
@joehalliday6963 Год назад
I found the 2022 film to be beautifully shot and directed, horrifyingly brutal, but totally devoid of the charactisation that the story needed in order to land. I feel like they had a list of plot points they wanted and didn't realise how that actually undermined their own story. For example: They wanted everything to take place at the very end of the war, so they could have that final fight before the whistle blows on the armistice. So they add the time jump of like 9 months between Pauls arrival at the front and the main action of the plot. But they don't change the contents of that plot from the original which makes them less impactful. As paul is now a hardened veteran at the time of the movie, and they skipped the bootcamp scenes, we don't see a transformation from a young hopeful man to a traumatised shell. It all happens off screen. Then scenes like the frenchman in the shell hole feel less impactful, in the 1930 film that happens in one of pauls first combats. Here he's been a frontline soldier for close to a year presumably seeing untold suffering and death already, it's not the same. The time needed for characterisation and character driven commentary is spent instead on plotlines like the general and the treaty of Versailles. Which add nothing to the story of the soldiers' experience. If those had been cut there might have been time to charactise the soldiers more, to spend time learning their personalities before the war messed them up. And actually see the dawning understanding of their reality. I enjoyed the movie but felt frustrated with it. I spent a lot of time watching it wondering what the movie was trying to say specifically. It was beautifully shot and edited which shows thought and effort. But the ultimate message just seemed kind of hand-wavey and "war bad". It didn't explore the effect on a person beyond "Wow I'm really rather traumatized being here." Because it didn't set any of these characters up in order to take them down. Hell, we learn more about the General (who is just a cartoonish charicature of the lions led by donkeys idea) than we do about any of Paul or his friends. Particularly because Paul doesn't talk or show much emotion about anything, acting more as a blank, traumatized, viewing piece of the horror for the audience than as a character.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 Год назад
Good video. I just wan to add that Wilfred Owen's "Dulce et Decorum est" is one of the finest poems written in the English language and the best encapsulation of the horror of modern war that I've ever seen.
@thehistorian1232
@thehistorian1232 Год назад
I couldn’t get into this. I loved the book for its quiet horror and subtle homoeroticism, for the contrast between the pretensions and anxieties of the homefront and the grinding evils of the trenches. The movie gave me fake french tanks and flamethrower soldiers and a nothing b-plot about peace negotiations.
@wleeclark7696
@wleeclark7696 5 месяцев назад
After reading Professor Mosier's books on WW1 and then watching this movie, it is actually a movie about the French, not German army. The actors are wearing the wrong uniform. Mass human wave attacks without concern for casualties, uncaring officers sitting far in the rear dining on fine food (Joffre was a good example of this), a pointless attack right before the end of the war - the only example I know of this was US Army officers who had recently arrived in France ordering pointless attacks on the Germans to be able to say they had been in combat . . . The artillery precision was a German Army specialty, known as "nibbling" not something the French Army was capable of due to their lack of mass production of hydraulic howitzers . . . Read Mosier's book on the Myth of the Great War where he breaks down the German vs French/British casualty statistics and concludes that the German army was a well trained killing machine. Mosiers' opinion and Hindenburgs opinion was the same - it was the US Army that broke the German will to keep fighting.
@lutherwilcox2249
@lutherwilcox2249 Год назад
‘79 is far superior. You should cover the book storm of steel by Ernst junger. It gives another very interesting perspective to the war
@Mike-ukr
@Mike-ukr 5 месяцев назад
arguably it's quite similar, except Junger does believe that war is glorious and when he thought he was going to die he felt extremely happy and like he had fulfilled his destiny
@thomasgangl8990
@thomasgangl8990 3 месяца назад
Interesting you mention it. Jünger represents the other type of soldier "forged" by the war. There is a wealth of other intense German books on the topic, but I don't know if they are available in English. I'll give you two of the original titles in German: "Heeresbericht" by Edlef Köppen "Erziehung vor Verdun" by Stefan Zweig, if I remember correctly.
@gidi3250
@gidi3250 Год назад
From what I recall the 30's film made quite a few changes, although small, they where not in the book, the director and producers allowed this as the changes where from actual ww1 veterans that made up the actors, and background actors, the one of the top of my head is the hands hanging onto the barbed wire, a french machine gunner remarked recalling a gy getting blown up by a shell and all that remained was his hands.
@sahiblindberg
@sahiblindberg Год назад
The thing is, I haven't read the book or seen the earlier adaptations. If I had, I probably would've seen the 2022 film the way you saw it. You bring up excellent points and you really made me want to read the book, but I still think that the 2022 film is a good one if you don't expect it to be loyal for the book! It must be seen as an independent work of art
@MVProfits
@MVProfits Год назад
Same here. I'm actually surprised I never read the book.... but I haven't. It might a different field altogether, but I really loved the first Conon movie with Arnold. Reading the Robert E Howard books later, THESE are the real stories, so awesome! If I had read the books first, I'd likely would have been POed to no end with the movie. Instead I can enjoy both.
@chrisbarnett5303
@chrisbarnett5303 Год назад
this is true of most things. You can't judge a movie based on the book, they are separate pieces of work. I love the LOTR movies, but if i try to compare them to the books they lack the depth of complexity, because you can't do the depth and complexity of books in a 3 hour movie.
@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 9 месяцев назад
That was an excellent analysis! I had the impression, the director/writers of the 2022 version had no real understanding what the book and the older movies were about, really. They made up stuff that felt detatched and contrieved like the weird end scene.
@Joe45-91
@Joe45-91 Год назад
I enjoyed your video and agree with most of the points you've made. I loved the 2022 version but not really in comparison to the previous ones. What I mean is, in 2022 there have not been many good war movies for awhile (1917 had some good moments but overall was a bit wacky). I think I enjoyed it so much because it was a war movie that did an excellent job showing the chaos and overall negativity of combat. It may not be the best version but it was a much needed departure from the usual cheesy/proud war movie that comes around every year or so.
@frankcassetta5145
@frankcassetta5145 Год назад
Exactly right! The 2022 version is less personal and, therefore, less moving. Watch Richard Thomas play Paul returning home on leave in the 1979 version. You know right there, he can never get back. Heartbreaking.
@stevemike1984
@stevemike1984 Год назад
The combat scenes were the most realistic I've ever seen. This new version is a great interpretation. As are the others. Each captures the essence of innocence lost, as well as the cost of war. Each has its own nuances and this is a great addition to the title.
@legitspartan9102
@legitspartan9102 7 месяцев назад
I think there’s is something missed here in the misunderstanding of it all. The Great War was something that the world had never seen the likes of. It was men with modern weaponry trying to fight a war like they were from the Napoleonic era. Many well studied men of the time likely would have no reference to what that war truly was beyond looking at the battle of Gettysburg and Pickett’s charge where the US learned not to group up and charge artillery and machine guns in lines on the open field. But even that was nothing like this war. Not a fighting force in the world up to that point had seen anything even close to its likeness. All these older men, including the Veterans of past wars, could’ve possibly understood, this war in particular. Honestly, not even modern combat vets have seen such a thing. Because at the very least, our tactics have adapted to fit the weaponry being used. I can’t even begin to imagine the hellish sight a WW1 Battlefield would be.
@5PctJuice
@5PctJuice 11 месяцев назад
Having watched all 3 film adaptations and read the book, I firmly believe that if the changes you discussed weren't made in the 2022 version it could very well have been a real masterpiece. Visually it's stunning, the acting is great, and the crater scene is every bit as gut-wrenching as I'd expect. But it's missing quite a bit. I will say that every adaptation, as well as the book, miss out on a few significant factors in the decline of the German war machine, such as mutinies among the navy, growing political turmoil across the country, and the impact of blockades, but those omissions are understandable since it's supposed to be Paul's story, not Germany's. That's the biggest mistake of the new version; it tries to tell Germany's story instead of Paul's, and while there's an avenue for that (they were way too kind to German High Command and the politicians negotiating the armistice imo), it's not this book.
@BabaEsconoir
@BabaEsconoir Год назад
The scene of the gas attack of the 1979 version was not depicting the German soldier being too slow to put on his gasmask: He took of his mask too early and then fell into a bomb crater still filled with poison gas.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 Год назад
He was okay taking off his gas mask, but unlike the others he hadn't learned that chlorine gas is heavier than air so it persisted at a lethal concentration in the trenches and craters after the air higher up was safe to breathe. In the 2022 movie I'm guessing the gas that killed them was phosgene because, unlike chlorine, phosgene is invisible, doesn't have much of an odor, and isn't unpleasant to breathe, but once you've breathed enough of it in it will inevitably turn your lungs to bloody soup hours later. Really wicked stuff.
@avus-kw2f213
@avus-kw2f213 Год назад
We need a storm of steel movie not more all quiet on the western front . That is the biggest problem with this movie
@aloadofbollocks988
@aloadofbollocks988 Год назад
Storm of Steel is actually real. All Quiet on the Western Front is antiwar propaganda.
@montanus777
@montanus777 4 месяца назад
on the one hand your point about the lack of 'soldiers vs civilians' is correct. on the other hand it's missing an important perspective: it's a _german_ movie adaptation of a _german_ novel mainly targeting a _german_ audience. so what is it, that makes the german experience so 'special'? after WW1 and before WW2 the german soldiers knew what fighting a world war meant, while the german civilians didn't (unlike e.g. french or belgian civilians, because WW1 was fought on their territory). during and after ww2 however the german civilians _did_ and _do_ know what it means, because the war was brought to german soil. so, the experience of 'post-WW2-germans' was and is completely different from 'post-WW1-germans'. unlike the times the novel was written and the first movie was made, there is no need to tell 'post-WW2-german civilians', that war is horrible. to this day there is basically no bigger construction site (or archeological site) in german cities, where you don't need a 'bomb defusing team' to get rid of old bombs from WW2. germans of today are aware, what 'dresden 45' (and basically every other bigger german city) stands for. the discrepancy of 'soldiers vs civilians', that was an important topic between the world wars, isn't anymore. and hence you can skip this part in a _german_ movie for a _german_ audience. plus the two older movie adaptations have _way_ too long and cringy dialogues and monologues (e.g in the ditch with the french soldier). that might work in a novel, but it's completely out of touch in a movie. an average german (pre-gen-z male) wouldn't talk that much (let alone a traumatized soldier); maybe think, maybe write, but not talk. and that's what the 2022 movie does _way_ better than the older ones. the lines of paul and esp. kat are way more rare and shorter - and in the case of kat btw almost unintelligible even for native german speakers, because he only mumbles his lines barely moving his clenched teeth while talking. this adds so much to the authenticity of these characters.
@andel6202
@andel6202 Год назад
I’m glad this movie was re done again. It may not be perfect, your analysis is excellent, but, it keeps the message fresh for a new generation of viewers and will foster a new generation to read the book and explore its themes. The message of the book, war, trauma, grief, are timeless. And, we need the reminder.
@herrflammen6487
@herrflammen6487 2 месяца назад
A crazy detail of the 1930s version is that some of the extras were actually German and American veterans from WW1
@charlesfaure1189
@charlesfaure1189 9 месяцев назад
There's adaptation, and then there's cynical use of a famous title to tell a different story.
@johnnycanadiana1897
@johnnycanadiana1897 11 месяцев назад
They skipped the part where he returned home after fighting and sees war vigor with different eyes... and knows he has changed... it was an important part. It was the first thing I noticed when I watched the Netflix version. It shows writers don't understand stories anymore
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