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De-Infantilizing STAR WARS (It Works) 

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0:00 Intro
1:14 Prologue
4:06 Part 1: Bring the 'War' back to 'Star Wars'
9:05 Part 2: Star Wars Before and After Disney
14:05 Part 3: Andor, A New Hope
19:54 A Little Extra!
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@Beghast-tv
@Beghast-tv Месяц назад
May the Fourth be with you! Thank you all for 2 million views! Also our new video is out!
@petercaddy
@petercaddy Месяц назад
Such a great video that i didn’t know i needed.
@henrythegreatamerican8136
@henrythegreatamerican8136 Месяц назад
Love the "De-Infantilized" way of putting it. I always hated how morons would blame the downfall of Star Wars on WOKE. You summed up the real reason with that one word De-Infantilized. The whole WOKE thing is right ring propaganda for the dumb dumbs
@henrythegreatamerican8136
@henrythegreatamerican8136 Месяц назад
Wow.... my comment got censored quickly. RU-vid algos at their greatest. Guess I have to type the comment on its own not in a response LOL.
@cn8412
@cn8412 Месяц назад
Maaaaaan, stuff's changed since that movie came out. When Star Wars was made, the world wasn't as stuck in singular demographics, 'cause for most people back then, it was still this shared experience, either in theaters or on the only household tv - perhaps that one weekend with Blockbuster money. It was more blurred back then. Most big projects were "for the whole family", and even the stuff marketed to kids would more often than not have subtle stuff for the adults in the room. Also, this whole idea that dark and brutal is for adults, it smells like American Soccer Mom. I mean, my kid nephew loves action and violence, and he's getting to the age where tits will excite him as well, you know. I'm still not gonna take big life advice from him yet. Also, Han shot first and Luke totally kissed his sister 🤮
@christopherd1356
@christopherd1356 20 дней назад
@@cn8412 the time of the original trilogy -I watched with my parents and grandmother, who actually hated the movie, with all the sci-fi trappings, aliens and spaceships; the only person I knew who didn't like the first movie. My friends and I would go as often as we could, my best friend went 21 times that summer, because; no VCR, no cable, who knew when it would be on the major networks, and how much they might cut out. When it was gone from the theaters, it was gone. I think the first film to really overcome this in the long term was Blade Runner. The whole Beghast video here can be summed up with "Han shot first!". He needs a redemptive arc, and that's clear when you watch it 20 times in one summer, lol.
@rippilot2113
@rippilot2113 4 месяца назад
Cassian getting arrested for something completely unrelated to any of his actual crimes was a great bit of storytelling as a way to show how pervasive and corrupt the Empire really is at a civilian level.
@Gradient14
@Gradient14 4 месяца назад
It's what Luthen wanted. He wanted the Empire to Crack down on everyone
@laurieocathail2441
@laurieocathail2441 4 месяца назад
really
@Gradient14
@Gradient14 4 месяца назад
Yes he said it multiple times. The heist put them over the edge. The passed the Piblic Order Decree which gave them the power to arrest anyone with hardly a reason for it. This is why Cassian was arrested. This kind of thing was exactly the response Luthen wanted. " we need the Empire to help. Oppression breeds rebellion "​@laurieocathail2441
@drksideofthewal
@drksideofthewal 4 месяца назад
"It actually wouldn't be so bad living under the Empire as a Human." Star Wars has needed to quash this notion for a long time.
@ParameterGrenze
@ParameterGrenze 4 месяца назад
Yes. And the scene were he tells another prisoner that he was innocent was just met with a dry “Yeah, we see more and more of those” instead of amused doubt, which would have been the traditional way of such a scene going down.
@BillyCobbOfficial
@BillyCobbOfficial 2 месяца назад
It’s a miracle that Andor exists, no idea how it got past those Disney executives
@syproful
@syproful 2 месяца назад
It’s like at LEGO something that needs to click. And that something will be money. Adults have money, and money will decide over time, good or bad.
@pedrorigoli4398
@pedrorigoli4398 2 месяца назад
​@@syproful I loved Andor series... but unfortunatelly, against your theory, I think it was one of the least successful Star Wars shows, even when the critics have been outstanding... I thought it could have been the start of a new era of Star Wars, and now I think it worked the other way around... they took the risk, and in terms of money (which is the only thing they'll care) it wasn't the way to go... Personally, I can't understand why Andor wasn't for children or light focused people, but neither Breaking Bad, however BB was one of the most successful series, while Andor dropped in terms of popularity... I can't blame on Disney for this, I can only blame Star Wars fans on this... they had the chance to let Disney know what they were doing wrong, and what kind of content is appreciated, and fans wasted the opportunity. We can't always complain about what Disney does wrong, if we choose to watch content we criticize, and we don't watch the content we're asking for...
@syproful
@syproful 2 месяца назад
@@pedrorigoli4398 that is very unfortunate to hear. The styling and decor were tight. At least that exists. I still watch Band of Brothers once every two years, 20 years later. So we are good.
@thenewexeptor
@thenewexeptor 2 месяца назад
@@pedrorigoli4398 I feel the same as you minus the disappointment from the fans reaction. At the end we are at fault here as we try to sit on two chairs simultaneously - one is the Star Wars movies and the whole idea there (which we obviously like a lot) and the desire to watch something deeper, more philosophical and provocative if you like. I feel that these two are not destined to bring big money any time soon.
@Winaska
@Winaska 2 месяца назад
Cause they billed it as being anti Trump
@pricerowland
@pricerowland Месяц назад
The corporate machinery of Disney sees Star Wars merely as an aesthetic, and does not understand that what people loved was the underlying spark of humanity.
@patrickprince7305
@patrickprince7305 23 дня назад
And the super cool space wizards.
@carloko08
@carloko08 20 дней назад
the degenerates of disney dont know the word DECENCY, for them everybody is depraved and junkies as them so their narrative is to show the same social chaos that rule in L.A. and they are working and fighting to make everybody lose their DECENCY as they lost long time ago, so they use the media to achieve their goals, the real war in this world is againt THIS KIND OF CRIMINALS
@ethand.1864
@ethand.1864 13 дней назад
​@patrickprince7305 especially the space wizards
@pyerack
@pyerack 13 дней назад
And the amateur "film makers" they keep bringing on to write and direct their shows just see it as a jump pad to kick start their careers. Seriously so many of the shows and films under Disney just look like something I'd see in my highschool "Video and Film" class except with a crazy high budget.
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 11 дней назад
I mean... They produced Andor, so clearly they do. They just seem to be inconsistent in it's application.
@fupamane9992
@fupamane9992 2 месяца назад
The Andor compilation at the end was SOOOOO good 🥹
@malakaiunseen
@malakaiunseen 2 дня назад
Agreed, such a beautiful edit.
@tilly6973
@tilly6973 4 месяца назад
I JUST realised the sound Tie fighters make is maybe DELIBERATELY terrifying to enemies, just like the STUKA dive bomber's sirens in WW2
@A2Moonclaw
@A2Moonclaw 4 месяца назад
Star Wars has many resemblances of WWII and other conflicts.
@elcoyote9410
@elcoyote9410 4 месяца назад
One of my favorite sounds there is. So iconic
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes 4 месяца назад
What's terrifying about an elephant call, a car driving on wet pavement, and an air conditioner motor though? 😜
@seanmurphy7011
@seanmurphy7011 4 месяца назад
I thought it was because George Lucas thought it sounded cool.
@Tentacl
@Tentacl 4 месяца назад
It's actually pretty close to the Stuka up to the middle of the sound, it's clearly where it was inspired from.
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle 3 месяца назад
I miss when "child-friendly" didn't mean "children-only".
@michaelnurse9089
@michaelnurse9089 Месяц назад
Look, Andor is pretty far from child friendly: A story of a depressed murderer on the run from the authorities.
@kevinhulse2983
@kevinhulse2983 Месяц назад
@@michaelnurse9089 One of the best influences on me as an adult was a movie I saw as a child about a washed up alcoholic cop determined to deliver a hooker to testify against a corrupt police commissioner.
@MiTaReX
@MiTaReX 24 дня назад
​@@michaelnurse9089I disagree, till very recent past kids' fairy tales were very brutal and death-heavy. The original Grimm ones, for example. A murderer on the run is not so outlandish a concept to dismiss for a younger audience. But I think intrigue and politics are concepts that are hardest to follow for the youngest audience.
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 13 дней назад
bro, child friendly before war wayyyy more exclusive that now, you realise it right?
@someguycalledCh0wdah
@someguycalledCh0wdah 9 дней назад
I feel like that's been more and more popular in the past decade, shows like Adventure Time, Avatar, and Steven Universe have been dealing with much more complex and grey-area subjects than ever before
@jonnyf3821
@jonnyf3821 2 месяца назад
Man, you‘re excellent! Not only is this applicable to Disney Star Wars but to the mass of newer movies. The quote “…the need to always hold your hand” describes it really well. I’ve always been frustrated to explain to people what i mean by that and you just gave words to it. Thank you thank you thank you! A hundred times
@connnnnnnnnnnnorrrrr
@connnnnnnnnnnnorrrrr Месяц назад
There's currently a frighteningly common sentiment that the current younger generations, z and younger, really - I mean really - lack *media literacy*. A function of this literacy is the ability for someone to be able to infer the intended audience, and most importantly infer the IMPLIED meaning behind the acting, the screenplay, the script, etc. Any piece of media that can imply a meaning by the creator (intended, or not. As some of us remember from school). A very simple example: an author or song writer, in a story or song, telling something from the point of view of a racist character. That DOES NOT imply the author agrees with what the piece of shit character is saying. Media literacy is the term you are looking for. A lack of media literacy in an age where outcry is easily posted and easily accessible makes it so much harder for a creatively-void profit-driven machine to operate without fear of backlash over something people should know better than to be mad about.
@Native_Creation
@Native_Creation 16 дней назад
And the same applies to video games and other media as well.
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 13 дней назад
considering what happened to the last jedi by idiots who don't understand the movie, it makes sense that they're "playing it safe" by lowering down to the audience that makes most controversies.
@kev95
@kev95 2 дня назад
@@connnnnnnnnnnnorrrrr Well said.
@Michalosnup
@Michalosnup 15 дней назад
What i really love about andor is that every action has a consequence, and that consequance is in small and in big picture. One of the big themes is that if you are to start a rebelion, innocent people will suffer. if you make a mistake, people will die. And if someone dies, it is real, people who die aren't just props, they aren't just part of nameless mass. And they just don't somehow return.
@ber210513
@ber210513 4 месяца назад
Me watching the bit about Dora: "well that's an odd angle, I guess..." Dora's map and the sith dagger juxtapose: "oooh daaaang!"
@SpacePizza2006
@SpacePizza2006 4 месяца назад
That was my exact reaction.
@mountainghoti1671
@mountainghoti1671 4 месяца назад
All I could hear in my head was, "I'M THE MAP!"
@derkylos
@derkylos 4 месяца назад
That dagger has to be the worst part of Disney Star Wars.
@TheHalogen131
@TheHalogen131 4 месяца назад
​@@mountainghoti1671 I'M ALL THE MAPS!
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 4 месяца назад
@@mountainghoti1671 "Hey, remember Waterworld?" "That awful 90's turkey?" "Let's use ideas from it!"
@rabbitguy1984
@rabbitguy1984 4 месяца назад
"Can you stand to see the Imperial flag reign across the galaxy?" "Its not a problem if you don't look up." I know its just star wars, but dang, that feels like something you'd hear people say during just about any oppressive regime or political thing. People just wanting to live their lives and be left alone. It's something we all feel. I haven't watched this show, but it really feels like the star wars that i've wanted them to make forever. I might just have to check it out.
@71Chevelle1989
@71Chevelle1989 4 месяца назад
It's honestly my favorite Star Wars content outside of the Clone Wars. It's almost perfect on every level
@dwaneanderson8039
@dwaneanderson8039 4 месяца назад
That dialog is from "Rogue One."
@peytongonavy
@peytongonavy 4 месяца назад
Jsyk
@literatemax
@literatemax 4 месяца назад
@@71Chevelle1989 Honestly, it might be better than The Clone Wars to me. I feel like there are certain parts of The Clone Wars that I like more than Andor, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to skip entire episodes or even arcs on a re-watch of the series. Not so with Andor.
@kelvingriffiths6017
@kelvingriffiths6017 4 месяца назад
People are talking like it nowadays friend. Thats why andor did so well too.
@SiriusMined
@SiriusMined 27 дней назад
The Mandalorian is a series of fetch quests that lead to other fetch quests.
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 13 дней назад
that sounds about right, isn't it what the genre is known for? and it was made in a game engine, so it might be a reference to that too
@patdbus
@patdbus 3 дня назад
that is way to true, the only reason i watched the mandalorion in the first place wasnt because of the story or 'amazing' character building, but because funny smol dude and space cowboy tomfoolery.
@gabbonoo
@gabbonoo День назад
there is only Discuss, Fetch, Fight, Craft, and Linger(for paced visual atmos) in most games and movies these days. i want an immersive Puzzle or a Fight that acts like a real time spacial puzzle. eg: Jackie Chan fighting multiple people. They dont come one at a time and they dont use slow roundhouse attacks. He uses furniture, scenery, and body blocking to deal with the numbers.
@morganpriest7726
@morganpriest7726 6 часов назад
MMO early game in a nutshell
@javiersilva1577
@javiersilva1577 4 часа назад
The first 2 seasons were solid in my opinion. The 3rd was was meh.
@Christian_Prepper
@Christian_Prepper 2 месяца назад
25:22 *'The day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the **_government's_** authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this.'*
@istp1967
@istp1967 4 месяца назад
"You put a number of options on the table; and they're so wrapped up in choosing, they don't even notice you didn't give them anything they actually wanted!" No truer words have ever been spoken.
@TrueEnglishMan01
@TrueEnglishMan01 3 месяца назад
Consumer capitalism
@JordanTheImpaler69
@JordanTheImpaler69 3 месяца назад
Kind of sounds like what the WEF, WHO and our own government give us: choices we never wanted to begin with.
@TopShelfTheology
@TopShelfTheology 3 месяца назад
Elections.
@blairchartrand2447
@blairchartrand2447 3 месяца назад
Netflix
@WildGooseChasing
@WildGooseChasing 3 месяца назад
Parenting
@Habu12
@Habu12 4 месяца назад
Luthen's monologue about sacrifice was superb. Gives me chills and puts a lump in my throat. And Stellan Skarsgärd was the perfect person to deliver it.
@TheX-Philes
@TheX-Philes 4 месяца назад
It was like those words were just bubbling away inside, kinda knowing that he was gonna be asked by the officer, and when he was asked it just poured out. "(F**KING) EVERYTHING!"
@GeordieSwordsman
@GeordieSwordsman 4 месяца назад
Imagine being so confident in your writing that you have the balls to drop that monologue in the same episode as Kino Loy's.
@TheX-Philes
@TheX-Philes 4 месяца назад
@@GeordieSwordsman Episode of poetry!
@user-wb8iu1hl6i
@user-wb8iu1hl6i 4 месяца назад
@@GeordieSwordsman Yeah it's still so crazy that the greatest speech in the entire 40+ history of the franchise happens, and it only lasts 10 minutes before it gets one-upped yet again. That episode is bonkers
@flatman3134
@flatman3134 4 месяца назад
"The rate of oppression outpaces our ability to understand it" is something I'm afraid I'll keep hearing in the back of my head throughout my whole life.
@GenikaXVI
@GenikaXVI 2 месяца назад
Andor for me was the best tv show ever made, the most real portray of the Star Wars galaxy that has ever been, and the most intensely emotionnally charged I have ever been, i laughed i cried I yelled of every emotion like i ever have before with any show and i have seen hundreds of them and all star wars média, nothing ever came even close to this, I lack even words to describe it sometimes....the characters the world building the realness of it alll....and the dialogues....the best monologues I have ever heard my entire life...I really hope many more people give this a chance, dont just give up on the first 2 episodes...you will 100% not regret it
@hitmanHunter620
@hitmanHunter620 21 день назад
best tv show ever made is a strong opinion, but your opinion in the end i thought it was great
@anthony.L
@anthony.L 17 дней назад
The dialogues were insane. And the emotions!
@cinerina
@cinerina 2 месяца назад
This was a terrific piece of analysis and beautifully edited to strengthen your point. I love Andor despite it being part of the Star Wars universe and not because of it, but I could never quite articulate it as well as you have done here. Thank you!
@Bayan1905
@Bayan1905 4 месяца назад
Andor to me was everything I wanted to see in Star Wars for a long time. A darker tone, much more adult than what we've gotten from The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Boba Fett and the Sequel Trilogy. Andor to me is a thinking person's Star Wars, the writers treating us like adults and given us a show written for an adult audience. No gimmicks, gags, cute little humor, etc. Just good writing, dialog and presentation.
@Leon-bc8hm
@Leon-bc8hm 4 месяца назад
Same. Mandalorian was superficial with some cool bits, Boba Fett was really bad, And Ahsoka not seen it but I am not thrilled.
@Brismo7
@Brismo7 4 месяца назад
and no stupid baby yoda...
@jankoodziej877
@jankoodziej877 4 месяца назад
That is something I don't quite understand. Why people expect that movies that were always aimed at young audience will change to be aimed at grown ups? I had fun watching the new Star Wars movies, but I never treated them seriously.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 4 месяца назад
@@jankoodziej877not aimed at young audiences. Aimed at the population at large.
@cloudmaster182
@cloudmaster182 4 месяца назад
​@jankoodziej877 well, they werent originally targeted at kids. It was definitely more of a older kids/young adult vibe until Ep6 went all in on selling to 12 yr olds. I think a lot of the legends stuff and revenge of the sith especially retained a lot of that more mature aspect that the movies focused on less. Especially during the prequel period. If you read star wars novels coming out between 2000-2012, some of those shits are definitely above like a child's level of understanding Outside of star wars, its VERY common for IPs to mature w their audiences. Batman for example wasnt orginially the "dark and gritty" character we all know him as. For like 30+ years he was a typical, save-the-day, foil the villains good guy. It wasnt til like the 80s that writers started to explore more mature aspects surrounding what he does and his character and psychology. And it happened to stick. And yhat was a trend in the comic industry in the 80s, specifically because the audience that was buying comic books was maturing, and the stories were written to reflect that I dont think its unreasonable. The prequels present a much grayer, less clear morality than the originals, and that is specifically bc GL wanted it to mature with his audience (while also still making them marketable for kids, yes) This imo is what leads to things like rogue one/andor and a desire to see more stuff like it
@sixter4157
@sixter4157 4 месяца назад
The "Show me, don't tell me." is such an important concept. It is a lesson so many people miss. I think that is what made the Han shot first controversy such a big deal. Greedo shooting first puts Han in a self defense position. Han shooting first confirms his scoundrel character. He is a survivor and isn't above underhanded tricks. It speaks of his moral character and makes his transformation from being out for himself into the guy that saves Luke's bacon and says "You're all clear kid, now let's blow this thing and go home." Seeing the special edition confused me so much. As a kid I clearly remember seeing A New Hope in the theater, not sure what year, I was born in '74. I definitely saw it before Empire came out.
@TheRogueX
@TheRogueX 4 месяца назад
I am and always have been OK with Han being a morally ambiguous character who is in the fight more because the Empire is a threat to his way of life and to the people that he loves than because he's a "good guy."
@sixter4157
@sixter4157 4 месяца назад
@@TheRogueX I think in general we are in agreement. His morally ambiguous traits are what made Han a great character. Ben did describe Mos Eisley as a "wretched hive of scum and villainy" and his shooting first just showed he wasn't an exception at the time of chartering the Millennium Falcon. Letting Greedo get the drop on him just seemed out of character to me and diminished his development as a character.
@Skitdora2010
@Skitdora2010 4 месяца назад
Han didn't shoot because he was a scoundrel, he did it because the other guy was a bounty hunter. He had no intention of being brought in by a bounty hunter. I don't understand why they had to make an issue of self-defense, as just that meeting made him have to act in self-defense. When you are a gambler and the mob sends somebody to either collect from you or dispose of you, there is no real good guy. If it was just a government tax collector and he shot first, well then he was a scoundrel, and then I see them needing to make him feel threatened to try to make him look like a good guy.
@white6505
@white6505 4 месяца назад
star wars is an interesting franchise in the way that one generation can bond with another over the franchise like that. or at least it could, when star wars wasnt butchered.
@Veles343
@Veles343 4 месяца назад
@@Skitdora2010 it's the whole going back to a fairytale thing. Shooting someone first is not something a hero in a fairytale does. I think people were annoyed that they were trying to turn Han into the fairytale hero, and there was so much other stuff in the film that didn't make him a fairytale hero, it just didn't make sense.
@westleytatro8832
@westleytatro8832 2 месяца назад
Outstanding editing and script!! The message was brought about beautifully, and felt so real. Thank you!
@vamsterr
@vamsterr 15 дней назад
Star Wars in the form of Andor and Rogue 1 is just such great story telling! You feel for EVERYONE on screen, even the bad guys! Thats what makes it so good is how truely human everyone feels. their motivations and wants etc etc it all is relatable in some way and they did a master work of grounding everyone involved in the reality of the world they built Showing how scary an organised and serious group the Empire really needs to be in order to do what they've done, to show the good guys using any and all tactics in order to win because That's what is needed to beat a force like the Empire. For me, there's no better set of "Bad Guys" than the imperials in Rogue 1 and Andor. Denise Gough (Dedra) Crushed her role in the show as a ruthless and intelligent imperial, who I sure as shit wouldnt want coming after me.. Great video man, hit the nail on the head
@Mallerd
@Mallerd 4 месяца назад
These movies dont make me feel like a kid but like a child. Is such a damn good line
@gonaye1
@gonaye1 4 месяца назад
Hear, hear! I literally stopped what I was doing and restarted the video when he said that. Before the video ended I’d already subscribed.
@nathanthegreathan6464
@nathanthegreathan6464 4 месяца назад
Definitely one of the best takeaways from this piece, and there’s so many!!
@elfieblue3175
@elfieblue3175 4 месяца назад
I thought I'd just become bored with the whole franchise, but this one soundbite encapsulated my vague dissatisfaction.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 4 месяца назад
"Writing for boys is really writing for adults. Any hint of trying to talk down to him, and he spots you at once and casts the thing aside!" - Charles Hamilton
@kostishasopoulos9816
@kostishasopoulos9816 2 месяца назад
@@gonaye1 you get sold easlily
@AzathothLives
@AzathothLives 4 месяца назад
I was late to Andor, I'd already written off Disney shows after Obi-Wan and Mando, and Book of Bubba Feet. Finally went back and watched it and was gobsmacked. This is what I'd been wanting from a Starwars show for ages. Hope they keep it running...
@norkshit
@norkshit 3 месяца назад
Bubba Feet
@furyflare72
@furyflare72 3 месяца назад
Bubba Feet 😂😂😂
@zrATT_
@zrATT_ 3 месяца назад
When you type F into your search browser:
@mikesanders2500
@mikesanders2500 3 месяца назад
The show was boring.
@AzathothLives
@AzathothLives 3 месяца назад
@@mikesanders2500 Not really. Watching a complex story with good characters play out is something that is satisfying to watch. More interesting than a show which is all style and no substance.
@theohanley1715
@theohanley1715 2 месяца назад
The editing of this is absolutely stunning, hats of yo, incredible work
@azureknight777
@azureknight777 Месяц назад
You're the editing at the end is so beautifully done, only outshone by the show itself. It really is so special and will certainly outlast the rest of disney's vapid offerings.
@abrahamtomahawk
@abrahamtomahawk 4 месяца назад
One of the things that solidified the realism for me was (and I've noted this on quite a few Andor review videos) the use of the Highlands of Scotland for the Aldhani was genius. Not only were the landscapes wonderful (the Cruachan Dam works so well as the imperial base), but the landscapes and ruined houses of a people pushed from their land during the Highland Clearances added a realism and gravitas to the story of the Aldhani people which mirrored the real landscapes and empty communities where they filmed this part of the show.
@mashphat
@mashphat 4 месяца назад
I'm glad to see this comment. After watching it I immediately went looking online for chatter about this and didn't really find any. I wondered for ages whether it was a deliberate choice to draw parallels between Aldhani and the Highland Clearance, or if they just chose the location and that part was coincidence.
@karolszykowny8627
@karolszykowny8627 4 месяца назад
I'm not from the UK, and initially thought they filmed it somewhere in Ireland. Which would also be a perfect setting for this story, with some design changes, so it would happen during The Troubles.
@abrahamtomahawk
@abrahamtomahawk 4 месяца назад
@@mashphat I didn't watch it until about 6 months after the fact, so I had assumed all the chatter had just died down.
@Native_Creation
@Native_Creation 16 дней назад
@@karolszykowny8627 there are some definition allusions to Irish resistance
@karolszykowny8627
@karolszykowny8627 15 дней назад
@@Native_Creation Really? Anything more concrete than the "general vibe" of the setting? People, events?
@eriviscale2
@eriviscale2 4 месяца назад
You just verbalized everything i loved about Andor and Rogue One perfectly. Brilliant video. Great editing as well. You have got a new subscriber.
@lt1eg6
@lt1eg6 3 месяца назад
I'm not a star wars guy, never really was. The first ones felt....antiquated. The latter simply fun. The new stuff utterly forgettable to me. Andor and Rogue One felt like proper exciting and full movies personally. Taut storytelling at its finest.
@stevebreedlove9760
@stevebreedlove9760 3 месяца назад
Commented the same before I saw this.
@TheHoojo
@TheHoojo 3 месяца назад
Absolutely.
@murasaki848
@murasaki848 3 месяца назад
Problem for me is Rogue One was so terribly concerned with wrapping things up in a bow that the logic holes were too distracting for me to really appreciate it. I love gritty, ambiguous stories. The main thing I like about Empire Strikes Back is it was the one movie in the original trilogy where everyone basically loses something in the ongoing grind of war. Even Vader is internally so confused by Luke's escape (I believe a part of him was relieved, knowing what would otherwise happen) that he loses touch with his Dark Side fueled rage at failure. But Rogue One fell apart for me with things like blowing up the expensive data installation after the information is already out in the open just to explain why none of the characters were in the original. Or holding the Tantive IV helpless in the hold of another ship with Leia onboard during a very pitched battle just to explain why A New Hope begins with a star destroyer chasing it down. Or why Galen sent a hologram of himself to Saw instead of, say, some relevant portion of the Death Star plans. (Seriously, go watch "Everything Wrong with Rogue One" for a full rundown). I ended up just chucking this one on the rest of the Disney heap.
@a_rat_named_mouse
@a_rat_named_mouse 10 дней назад
​​@@murasaki848 Excepting "Andor", "Rogue One" is the best of Disney Star Wars. Which is saying almost nothing, considering its competition are things like "The Rise of Skywalker", "The Book of Boba Fett" and "Ahsoka"... It's, like, a 4/1o. Which is still leagues above the 2/1o highs of "Kenobi", so... Meamwhile, "Andor" is absolutely phenomenal.
@kanaprates1012
@kanaprates1012 11 дней назад
Beautiful video, you have convinced me to watch Andor again.
@haleymj553
@haleymj553 15 дней назад
the background character walking between Han and Leia @12:03 is just chef's kiss, it really grounds the world and reminds us just how much is going on around them, it just feels so real in a way that I feel most films would avoid if it wasn't specifically furthering the plot.
@mckinney9739
@mckinney9739 4 месяца назад
The fact that this show is still being talked about regularly and positively is a testament to the quality and true meaningfulness of the series
@literatemax
@literatemax 4 месяца назад
God I hope they don't mess up S2
@RictusHolloweye
@RictusHolloweye 4 месяца назад
There's only so much time that can be spent complaining about the things that went wrong. Enjoying the things that went right, however, is timeless.
@disposablebody3379
@disposablebody3379 4 месяца назад
it was boring
@vanlllasky
@vanlllasky 4 месяца назад
@@disposablebody3379 did you click on this video, immediately pause it, then run to the comments to yell about how you didn't pay attention to Andor because you can't handle a more adult Star Wars?
@guruware8612
@guruware8612 4 месяца назад
@@vanlllasky Ah, you mean the more adult star wars, where they run around disguised by wearing hoddies, turning around every second to check if we got detected. Then a sudden stop at a wall to ponder about life. This idiot is followed, what is this "adult" doing to get somewhere unnoticed ? Luckily there are the white troopers with a can of coke on their back, which - wearing armor/helmet - can be knocked out by bare hand by an adult (the one and only adult-stuff). Or having no time, all happens under preasure, and then they find time to chat for some 2-3 minutes, adult stuff yes. Or flying around in the galaxy with hyperspeed, but hatches are opening like the whole ship is powered by steam. whoos-pfffft-shhhh. Or, or, or... adult Star Wars, yep. Robots having a fist-fight ? Ok, that was the awesome ashoka-nonsense, where girls are standing around with folded arms, trying to look important or wise.
@davidci
@davidci 4 месяца назад
You just casually dropped one of the best Andor edits in the last 10 minutes and no one's commenting about it?!
@corndag3652
@corndag3652 4 месяца назад
Fuck yeah dude that was absolutely masterful! I can’t believe this guy doesn’t have a few million subs
@LasseMan83
@LasseMan83 4 месяца назад
I was scrolling through the comments looking for that as well. It was a masterpiece of an edit.
@pw6002
@pw6002 4 месяца назад
Tbh, I found the "A little extra" part completely forced and a cheating way to make the video seem longer than it actually is. And I love Andor, and I love all the rest of the video.
@steprockmedia
@steprockmedia 4 месяца назад
@@pw6002 More masterful editing for the rest of us. I thought it was brilliant.
@pw6002
@pw6002 4 месяца назад
@@steprockmedia Let’s say the trailer is probably a cool way to motivate people who had not seen the show to go watch it. But I thought I would get a 25 minutes analysis about Andor and how to de-infantilize Star Wars, where in fact the analysis was only 16 minutes long, plus a 9 minute-long trailer. Hence my disappointment.
@tzeffsmainchannel
@tzeffsmainchannel Месяц назад
9:26 I always loved the way Carrie Fischer (Princess Leia Organa) poses here in the control room - The Empire Strikes Back. So iconic and with style! 🥰🤗💖
@ATJ-sTAt
@ATJ-sTAt 4 месяца назад
I have to give credit where it's due. The montage at the end was well thought through, planned and edited! I bet it took much more work than it seems at first glance. Well done!
@tennolife9930
@tennolife9930 4 месяца назад
Sure rallied me up to fight the empire, that was beautiful.
@McDonaldsCalifornia
@McDonaldsCalifornia 4 месяца назад
Also a lot of the match cuts and thematically fitting clips thrown in throughout the video are very well executed
@lawrencium2626
@lawrencium2626 4 месяца назад
my observations exact!
@ATJ-sTAt
@ATJ-sTAt 4 месяца назад
@@McDonaldsCalifornia Agree, but the end-montage blew me of my chair! (And I have been a teacher in Adobe Premiere and Photoshop)
@Itchy__
@Itchy__ 4 месяца назад
I literally cried a little, most of these characters die fighting for or against a system whos only purpose is to give sheev and his goons power at the expense of literally everyone else ;-;
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 4 месяца назад
One thing that's very worth noting regarding how Star Wars simplifies the classic science fiction tropes like artificial and alien intelligent life forms comes down to that line a little later you had about how it's a story about humans. One of those humans, a crime lord, just so happens to be a slug person. One of the rebellion's admirals, another person, just happens to be a fish person. Two of the most prevalent people in the 6 Lucasfilm movies are metal, and one of them is a 3 foot tall cylinder that communicates with beeping. There's a certain beauty to that - fundamentally, intelligent life forms are people, and for Star Wars, the only reason it matters is that some of the actors have to show up 6 hours early to do makeup and prosthetics so they can shoot the scene. It's no wonder most of the main cast are humans, actors who play aliens and robots in these things have a hellish schedule, and since Star Wars isn't really focused on the possible difficulties of communication between different species (as opposed to shows like Star Trek and Babylon 5, both of which had several alien characters who show up in most episodes), they have less trouble with telling a story where most of the cast can wear normal costumes. (Also, I'm not sure the world of 1977 was ready for the love story between Han Solo the Fish Man and Leia the Slug Lady. Even today that's only gonna work for a pretty small subset of the audience.)
@Lithrus_
@Lithrus_ 4 месяца назад
Reminds me of another great show, Bojack Horseman. The main character and most of the cast are talking animals living in the same human world we live in, but the fact that they're animals is purely for show and they're humans in every other way.
@theoldleafybeard
@theoldleafybeard 4 месяца назад
You could see those kind of love stories though in less mainstream stories, often in sci-fi comics (and even more in books, of course). Perhaps aimed at more open-minded people profiles somehow, I don't know.
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid 4 месяца назад
You left out something that one of the Characters of Rogue One makes their Life about: Droids are Slaves. They are stronger, smarter, and longer-lived than are Humanity, but they are not “allowed” by the Galactic Civilization to “Live as Free People.” Some of us are working with the technologies that will eventually BE these sorts of “People” to create a new type of Film/Movie/TV Entertainment, where the Stories HAVE NO “ACTORS,” but are populated with characters who ARE THEMSELVES. Currently these will be scripted. But there are already efforts at creating “Toy Universes” in which a small population of such “AIs” live, and have rules for how they must provide for themselves, how they procreate to create new “people” in these tiny Universes, so that one day we might have a “Universe” constructed to meet specific criteria, where the “Characters” are given certain roles, “Fates,” and so on… Where we will get new “Stories” to watch that have no “Authors” in the way current Movies/TV/Books, etc. do. But… This comes back to the Droids…. How would these “characters” feel to discover that their Universe is a fabrication made for entertainment? And that they are basically “Slaves.” Gives a new perspective to Ancient Religious Faiths, for that matter.
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid 4 месяца назад
@@Lithrus_ Have you seen Beastars? The main characters and ALL of the Cast are Animals, where Society is divided between Predator and Prey, Carnivore, Omnivore, and Herbivore. And a Predator and Prey fall in Love.
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 4 месяца назад
it's about FaMiLyyeehh
@ivanlehmann9228
@ivanlehmann9228 10 дней назад
How is it possible that that compilation at the end was enough to get tears running through my eyes? Amazing what relatable characters and stories can do.
@lasharael
@lasharael 12 дней назад
The video editing in this essay is absolutely amazing!
@kippgoeden
@kippgoeden 4 месяца назад
Andor is the greatest thing to happen to Star Wars. It truly made the rebellion real and understandable. It took away the whimsical nature and smacked us with the truth…and I absolutely love it.
@Leon-bc8hm
@Leon-bc8hm 4 месяца назад
100% A mature take on SW.
@ssShockRyder
@ssShockRyder 4 месяца назад
now we just need the real ewoks . the little terror bears that eat anything that moves
@mjt1517
@mjt1517 4 месяца назад
@@ssShockRyderthat would require a new series called "Endor".
@JamieFurlong
@JamieFurlong 4 месяца назад
Very well put, these were my sentiments exactly.
@randomando9257
@randomando9257 4 месяца назад
Andor is so trash lol
@TheX-Philes
@TheX-Philes 4 месяца назад
Damn man that last 19:51 extra bit actually brought a little tear to my eye, masterfully done, I'm about ready to start a revolution myself!
@sirbachelorboredmen1314
@sirbachelorboredmen1314 4 месяца назад
Ngl The context fits what's happening at the Palestine rn. The similarity is scary.
@mistrfinga
@mistrfinga 4 месяца назад
​@@sirbachelorboredmen1314The world rn...
@timbonthuus1619
@timbonthuus1619 4 месяца назад
@@sirbachelorboredmen1314 The antisemetic cult that goes in and slaughters over 1000 people at a peace concert, are anti democracy, and throw gays off high rise buildings are like rebels fighting an opressive empire?
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 4 месяца назад
The problem is that even if Disney had still its best writers you have to keep in mind that it is a kids/family brand. Even if the writing was better it fundamentally clashes with the themes in Star Wars. Yes, I know Andor is good but that is a rare exception. It should have never gotten sold to Disney since what they do best isn't Sci-Fi.
@astrosherlock374
@astrosherlock374 4 месяца назад
*The CIA wants to know ur location*
@ChrisGurin
@ChrisGurin 2 месяца назад
I watched Andor the first time out of boredom, then I realized this story could be about any time or place where humans, real people, have had enough. There were scenes that reminded me of histories of those "breaking points", where "the risk of doing nothing was far greater than that of doing anything," where doing something meant there would be blood. The scenes where the storm troopers prepare to fire on strikers, it reminded me of a movie about Northern Ireland and the "Bloody Sunday" massacre, but it could be anywhere, any time. The ISB I relabbled "STASI". The utterly chilling idea of a secret police agancy regarding their role as "health care" for their society made me wonder how often that is being thought, and even openly stated, in the ever growing panopticon of the global security state.
@peeplead2
@peeplead2 Месяц назад
Star Wars break downs...seen a ton - this is the best by far I've seen...and that was before the final scene of this vid began. Feels like I've seen a double feature, each one of the best I've seen, but also each one, when understood, also speaks directly to the other's credibility subcutaneously...and together...dude...they finish each others' sentences you can't tell aren't finished until they are... the first is the pre-amble to the next, and the next, is the sequel to the first...and round they go... ...telling you a story, by and while telling you another story - and telling a story about how a story should be told, told in the way that made this story, The Story. Proving it's never pointed-out point, by making and how it made another, about how another was made... My damn whole day is different. And rarely been so confident saying - I get it, I get it the way it was meant to be gotten, and those that don't - well good luck to those background characters. Absolute genius production imo. Thanks for your time @Beghast-tv...it is much appreciated.
@spicydaddy2526
@spicydaddy2526 4 месяца назад
This is a great video essay. Grounded, not hateful of kids or fans, not in denial about the original films. Love to see it.
@kcinrennat2606
@kcinrennat2606 3 месяца назад
This. So much this! It’s been so hard to get a thought through critique of anything star wars lately. There’s so much finger pointing, so much anger at this group or that. It’s great to see someone analyze something star wars from a far more objective view
@Arseassin
@Arseassin 3 месяца назад
Very well done - You've described in a 30 minute video what I've spent hours trying to argue to friends and family every time Star Wars debates come up.
@wowitsnicify
@wowitsnicify 3 месяца назад
I was thinking the exact same thing!
@owene2530
@owene2530 2 месяца назад
Mfs will see no lightsabers or mandalorians and write it off as garbage
@jmecucci
@jmecucci 2 месяца назад
same, I make the same argument with Marvel movies too, much prefer movies like Logan...
@geronimooo260
@geronimooo260 2 месяца назад
@@owene2530so wrong, no lightsabers, spaceships, or funny droids it’s not Star Wars, period
@SpartanK4102
@SpartanK4102 2 месяца назад
​@@owene2530 Doesn't help when Star Wars' biggest RU-vidr holds that opinion.
@franzjahrling9638
@franzjahrling9638 Месяц назад
wanted tp highlight the edit of this video. Especially the sequence you ended part 3 with is a very nice choice of scenerey and matching cuts. Nicely done!
@eddiecolon3941
@eddiecolon3941 2 месяца назад
This was excellent ! Great clips from many movies , great explanations, and the scenes with speeches were inspiring. Kudos ! Again, this was so enjoyable , excellent
@hyperelliptik
@hyperelliptik 4 месяца назад
That edit at the end had me crying. There are few pieces of media that have left such an impact on me, very few that I lie awake thinking about, very few that expose vulnerability and feel like they leave an open wound that never really closes.
@iannnn1455
@iannnn1455 4 месяца назад
Bruh same, it had me in tears, such beautiful writing
@jacobbarton9701
@jacobbarton9701 4 месяца назад
Luthan's monologue to Lonni always gets me
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 4 месяца назад
The problem is that even if Disney had still its best writers you have to keep in mind that it is a kids/family brand. Even if the writing was better it fundamentally clashes with the themes in Star Wars. Yes, I know Andor is good but that is a rare exception. It should have never gotten sold to Disney since what they do best isn't Sci-Fi.
@scottcutler7749
@scottcutler7749 4 месяца назад
I was in tears too.. because it speaks to the struggles of our time
@Ojja78
@Ojja78 4 месяца назад
Dude, finish your thought. You started making a point and didn't finish it. Say what you want to say and don't lazily expect others to fill in the blanks for you. "there are few pieces....never really closes". What you want to say next is that this made you feel that way. You didn't say that, though. All you said is that it made you cry and you said this BEFORE making your next point.
@CralexKokiri
@CralexKokiri 3 месяца назад
As an aspiring author, I know how tempting it can be to sit down and explain everything. But this video essay serves as an excellent reminder of how much more satisfying it is show without telling. Both for the creator and the one enjoying the work.
@JordanTheImpaler69
@JordanTheImpaler69 3 месяца назад
For real. Learning to show not tell is a skill, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. It's a muscle that you must workout and feel the pain of barely being able to do it, but then the next time you return to do some more reps (words/pages), your ability to show not tell has strengthened. The best fiction for me is the fiction where the author uses descriptions of where, when, regarding who, to inform the reader but never giving away the why without it being through a personal revelation of a character through THEIR struggle and search for truth. Because then it feels like it was my struggle, too.
@AngelofDethMetal
@AngelofDethMetal 3 месяца назад
Telling without showing shows that the writer does not know their own story.
@Draggeta
@Draggeta 3 месяца назад
One youtube channel explained that in the old days you couldn't write a script and have it accepted. You'd write the story first only explaining the subtext you'd want to convey and why something is happening and only then fill in what dialogue and actions would convey this.
@MollyHJohns
@MollyHJohns 3 месяца назад
I understand now (I used to write my first story with much unnecessary info unrelated to the plot or flow of the story lol). In my case it's called infodumping.
@alexandrahill9176
@alexandrahill9176 3 месяца назад
As a writer myself I this also clicked hard for me.
@thestrangebus5044
@thestrangebus5044 Месяц назад
This is an amazing video. I've been trying to cover this topic for the last two years! Thank you for taking the time to edit, explain and put something brilliant out there that covers why this method of storytelling works. You are awesome!
@mattuskamusic
@mattuskamusic Месяц назад
2:35 “constant stimulation and explanation to keep you hooked.” That explains to me why I don’t like popular movies anymore. It makes me a crazy that they force you to understand a story in the way they want it understood. I prefer for things to be more abstract where I can have my own experience instead of being forced to feel a certain way.
@Beghast-tv
@Beghast-tv 4 месяца назад
Yesterday, it was confirmed that Andor Season 2 has officially completed filming! I genuinely hope it will be as good, if not better, than the first season. Thank you for all the comments; I've read them all. It truly shows how passionate the fanbase is and how frustrating the direction Disney has taken is for most of us. However, Andor is proof that when the marketing department does not force artistic choices onto the director, a fantastic piece of media can still be produced.
@auroraflash
@auroraflash 4 месяца назад
It's exciting news to hear that Andor Season 2 has wrapped up filming! It's always a positive sign when a passionate fanbase is engaged and hopeful about the upcoming season. The acknowledgment of the fan comments and the emphasis on the importance of artistic freedom for the director in creating a fantastic piece of media is an interesting perspective. It reflects the ongoing dialogue between fans and creators in navigating the balance between creative vision and commercial interests. Let's hope that Andor Season 2 lives up to expectations and continues to deliver a compelling story.
@LaloSalamancaGaming69
@LaloSalamancaGaming69 4 месяца назад
Dawg if you hate fantasy on starwars just watch any boring drama you can find on some movie channel on tv 😂
@gothxm
@gothxm 4 месяца назад
what is this @4:32 from? that shot of a padawan kissing a princess. It looks like anakin and padme but i dont remember this scene at all.
@samwise7538
@samwise7538 4 месяца назад
@@auroraflash The irony of posting this AI shit on a post about creativity.
@samwise7538
@samwise7538 4 месяца назад
@@gothxmA film called The Princess Bride. It's a brilliant movie and well worth a watch!
@greghannibal
@greghannibal 4 месяца назад
I wish they let Tony Gilroy handle Thrawn.
@scooble
@scooble 4 месяца назад
I suspect, he would make him quite terrifying
@guilhermeraposo6080
@guilhermeraposo6080 4 месяца назад
Disney, really
@patricklacey4946
@patricklacey4946 4 месяца назад
Half the universe would be dead in three episodes lol, no surprise resurrections, just dead, they not getting up again
@greghannibal
@greghannibal 4 месяца назад
@@patricklacey4946 I miss when characters stayed dead. Even in the EU when they brought back some characters, they didn't go overboard with it like Disney seems to want.
@patricklacey4946
@patricklacey4946 4 месяца назад
@@greghannibal They killed the entire starting cast of Rogue One like it was nothing, they would have killed Leia if the movie was 5 minutes longer lol. Someone died in almost every episode of Andor, I really thought Nemik would survive, I thought wrong lol
@broncoxy
@broncoxy 2 месяца назад
for anyone wondering, the music at 18:07 is 'A Sophisticated Affair' by Gavin Luke; loved it so much I just _had_ to go and find it and I'm sure I'm not the only one~
@theanti-veela-leprechaun
@theanti-veela-leprechaun Месяц назад
Lol know any other songs from the video?
@chrislaplante4787
@chrislaplante4787 2 месяца назад
FABULOUS WORK HERE.I haven’t been this moved by any single Star Wars related piece of work as I am with this.Everything about this video rings so true,so passionate,that’s its beyond inspiring to me.I could never imagine this would be as profoundly unique and special as it is when I pressed on it.I am not the same person now as I was before watching this.
@wazkangz955
@wazkangz955 4 месяца назад
This summary is why when I found that games like KOTOR and SWTOR existed, I played them to experience a personalized story that really felt like I was injected into this gritty world. Diving deep into a world where I could be more than just a good Jedi or comically evil Sith. The world building and storyline kept me coming back. This video essay was wonderful and throughly enjoyed it.
@TravlerBlue
@TravlerBlue 4 месяца назад
Yea, the ability to stay roughly in the middle of light side and dark side is really nice. In both KOTOR and SWTOR I stay as "grey" as possible and it's a lot more satisfying than hard leaning one way or the other. Really makes it feel like my story as opposed to my character's story.
@---nu4ed
@---nu4ed 4 месяца назад
KOTOR became the crux of Star Wars for me.
@skarloeythomas5172
@skarloeythomas5172 3 месяца назад
@@TravlerBlue swtor is rather designed to be grey. the light and dark options are going to be self-sacrificing idealism or pragmatism, and the next time it is going to be plain decency or violent cruelty. If you played a reasonable person, the pattern is grey. for instance killing dozens to reach an NPC that offers a light option to spare isn't really sensical. Another time, the dark option is death for its own sake when the light option is a political lottery.
@soisaus8836
@soisaus8836 3 месяца назад
You might be a Witcher book and game enjoyer then, I can't recommend them enough.
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 3 месяца назад
How pretentious are you to literally act like you want star wars without the jedi
@novembermember
@novembermember 4 месяца назад
Andor feels so much like that one deleted scene from A New Hope where Luke talks to Biggs Darklighter. I love the language used in A New Hope. The style, swagger, and lingo are very 70s. Very memorable. Andor does a great job building on this style in an authentic way. It is a sincere show. Sincerity is what is often lacking when old properties are used to make new films and TV shows today.
@Cryptic0013
@Cryptic0013 3 месяца назад
Not just shows, either. People are deathly afraid to be sincere in general, thanks to living on social media. Modern writers just also happen to be chronically online, with very little life experience outside of college and corporate jobs, and it shows.
@novembermember
@novembermember 3 месяца назад
@@Cryptic0013 Yeah, you're right. There are some very sheltered writers and it shows. Great artists are great observers - they pay attention to others and they write of humanity true, not any social fabrications nor mainstream follies.
@Voidveil
@Voidveil 2 месяца назад
Genuinely one of the best video essays I’ve seen. Brilliantly said, and well done.
@MOO53K3Y5
@MOO53K3Y5 6 дней назад
This was so good. I wish the Acolyte was made with this caliber. 180 mill. The theme was the Dark Side and it had a Dora the Explorer script quality.
@MrHereWeGoYo
@MrHereWeGoYo 4 месяца назад
Great video. Anytime we can remind ourselves of the greatness of Andor I'm all for it. I wasn't shocked when he killed the cop but the scene from Rogue One immediately came to mind. I thought to myself, "This is going to tell how serious they are." BAM! "Yes!" Andor was a complete breathe of fresh air. It is easily my favorite bit of Star Wars since The Empire Strikes back. Just as Rogue One is my favorite Star Wars movie since the original trilogy.
@coha348
@coha348 4 месяца назад
I thought I was the only one that liked rogue one! haha
@RodCornholio
@RodCornholio 4 месяца назад
Agree. It's a much needed reminder that the Empire was, no joke, evil.
@opo3628
@opo3628 3 месяца назад
@@coha348 - Where did you get that idea? Especially in the present day of Star Wars, Rogue One is celebrated as being one of *the* best movies in the entire franchise.
@jones1618
@jones1618 2 месяца назад
@@opo3628 When it came out there was a prevailing mainstream response that "Oh, it's well-made and a good bit of gritty story-telling but it's not ... ahem ... Star Wars. Where's the jaunty banter, loveable characters, easy saves, and happy ending? We came for a space romp and got an adult story..."
@bmwkmx1
@bmwkmx1 5 дней назад
Yesir! Totally agree. I was just trying to get this point across to my friends the other day. Thanks for the vid for me to show them.
@BestMentalism
@BestMentalism 2 месяца назад
this was an epic video, thank you so much for explaining what I've been intuitively feeling for so long
@kelvingriffiths6017
@kelvingriffiths6017 4 месяца назад
I am so with you on this. The andor example of the tie fighter is EXACTLY what real war footage of Stukas is like. I want more of that. Jurassic Park needs this mentality badly too i think.
@Low_commotion
@Low_commotion 4 месяца назад
It is also what _Alien_ gets right that every single one of its sequels gets wrong. Just like ninjas, having more of them on screen makes them _less_ scary. There's also a difference between framing something as a monster (horror movie framing) and framing it as an enemy (action movie framing). That tie fighter bearing down is framed like a monster.
@user-kt7li4le8s
@user-kt7li4le8s 4 месяца назад
​@@Low_commotion very well said
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors Месяц назад
​@@Low_commotionregarding Aliens, it does make sense that they would be framed that way as the series progressed: it wasn't Ellen's first rodeo
@Snarlacc
@Snarlacc 2 месяца назад
Something weird hit me rewatching: The animated series "Star Wars The Clone Wars" feels more mature than the new series and movies. In tone and themes.
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 2 месяца назад
later on, sure but the early episodes didn't give that.
@slew9900
@slew9900 2 месяца назад
@@KMCA779 yeah, thats commonly agreed on, the show starts getting mature around Season 4 i believe
@mario-k.
@mario-k. 2 месяца назад
You guys seriously need to re-watch the show if you think that's true. Apart from the stand-out arcs, it could even be argued that the first couple of seasons are more mature You all think about those two jar jar episodes and the shitty movie, as well as the rocky animation at times but forget the goated episodes the early seasons contain
@kaboose111
@kaboose111 2 месяца назад
You are a child if you think that.
@inthewoods5494
@inthewoods5494 2 месяца назад
@@kaboose111 “an child” my dude the child is you.
@mboehmer
@mboehmer Месяц назад
Wow, I don't know if it's Andor or your editing, but I have goosebumps all over
@billmcdonald680
@billmcdonald680 24 дня назад
"Show, don't tell" - the unending chorus in any good writer's head. It's story writing 101.
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 13 дней назад
and this is something the prequels do very little, unlike 7 and 8
@TheCebulon
@TheCebulon 4 месяца назад
This one of the best comments on Andor and it’s quality. Your style and narration are absolutely great. Kudos for achieving such great hight and amazing video. On point, subtle, straightforward, absolute highest quality.
@Tequila628
@Tequila628 4 месяца назад
its*
@teodorahlinder4056
@teodorahlinder4056 4 месяца назад
I very seldom write comments, but dude, what a great video. The time and care that must have gone into doing all the clips is incredible. Thank you.
@hypocriticalgrammarnazi
@hypocriticalgrammarnazi 3 месяца назад
You seldom see people saying “seldom” anymore…
@user-fo4ve5fo4z
@user-fo4ve5fo4z 3 месяца назад
very seldom...
@ViscusoVlogs
@ViscusoVlogs 4 дня назад
Thank you for making this video!
@stephenhawkingz
@stephenhawkingz 4 месяца назад
Where did Luke get his cybernetic hand? The second hand store.
@bishopp14
@bishopp14 4 месяца назад
😂
@jonniiinferno9098
@jonniiinferno9098 4 месяца назад
🤣
@gregv2k
@gregv2k 4 месяца назад
Dad…?
@user-bt6ir9yb3v
@user-bt6ir9yb3v 4 месяца назад
Well done sir 👐
@lftoscano
@lftoscano 4 месяца назад
I wonder if Darth Vader placed the First Order in this store
@halowaffle25
@halowaffle25 3 месяца назад
11:36 You know, I had never quite managed to put this thought into words, but I think you perfectly captured what made A New Hope and Empire so special here - that they took their time to allow us to live in their world for a while. Seeing Vader without his helmet, or Luke eating rations... These aren't strictly necessary. A screenwriter who knows enough to earn a job on, say, Disney's writing team would probably be very tempted to cut these scenes, because they don't serve mechanical purpose to the plot. ...But they would be absolutely wrong to do so. Because while they may not advance the plot, they pull such heavy weight in humanizing the characters on screen, and allowing us to breathe in the atmosphere of the setting. This is really the core of my affection for the first two movies, now that I think about it. That understanding of when best to take their time and slow down... That's also where Return of the Jedi went wrong in trying to do this *too* much, but I digress.
@RecklessFables
@RecklessFables 3 месяца назад
JJ Abrams-style movies are intended to be frenetic so you don't think too much about the plot and just gawk at the visuals.
@ChronoMune
@ChronoMune 3 месяца назад
@@RecklessFablesnah both Star Treks were great
@josiahz21
@josiahz21 3 месяца назад
You reminded me of an interview with Hamill, Fischer, and Ford. They had to argue with Lucas about dialogue that was way too technical and sounded like a coder speaking in DOS. It’s good to have little glimpses of the universe like eating, but it can go too far. It’s good they dialed it back, and kept us invested in the characters.
@bbarrera86
@bbarrera86 3 месяца назад
i think there's more to that, very little in the original trilogy seems coincidental or accidental, it seems causal. That cannot be said of episodes 7 through 9
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI 3 месяца назад
The prequels did this the best but I expect you’ll come up with some reason why they actually suck
@Sellinglobs
@Sellinglobs 2 месяца назад
What an incredibly well made video, the intro had me hooked.
@chrisknight
@chrisknight 2 месяца назад
Wow - very nicely put together argument. A real pleasure to watch, and I appreciate Andor (which I already loved) even more now.
@artboymoy
@artboymoy 3 месяца назад
Andor and Rogue One are the best things to come out of Disney Star Wars. Giving us a more grounded sci fi show than space fantasy is what I look for in the property now. Great video. Thanks for making it.
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 2 месяца назад
They don't want you to watch. They want you to buy toys for your kids because THEYRE watching.
@stevenqirkle
@stevenqirkle 2 месяца назад
I thought Rogue One kind of sucked. The premise of stealing plans for the death star felt kind of small to base an entire movie on. And there were a lot of long and unremarkable action sequences that I found pretty boring. I enjoyed the Force Awakens more of the newer star wars movies... although I wouldn't say any of them were great. Haven't seen Andor or any of the other spin offs yet, though.
@YonBaBa
@YonBaBa 2 месяца назад
I agree, Rogue One had characters that stood out and clear character arcs. Andor did as well. You also got to see so much more of the empires oppression than we have in any other movie or show. The prison episodes were some of the best of the show. I also liked that they actually fleshed out the Empires characters. Instead of them just being evil for the sake of being evil.
@jimstartup2729
@jimstartup2729 2 месяца назад
​@@davidfaustino4476the biggest flaw in the current age of humanity. Cash rules above all else.. why make something great and timeless when you can make something cheap and easy that sells enough stuff to make quick easy predictable profit. The people that do care or have the right ideas are often over ridden by money focused management groups
@snakepitskeleton4193
@snakepitskeleton4193 2 месяца назад
@@stevenqirkle genuinely the worst opinion ive read so far. Simply awful. Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie to grace the silver screen.
@ber210513
@ber210513 4 месяца назад
This is a great analysis of the state of the franchise and how Andor is the show that chose to grow with its audience
@auroraflash
@auroraflash 4 месяца назад
The Star Wars franchise finds itself at a critical juncture, facing both challenges and opportunities. Recent releases have sparked diverse reactions among fans, with varying opinions on creative choices, storytelling, and adherence to the established lore. Striking a balance between honoring the beloved legacy and exploring new narratives has proven to be a delicate task. The franchise's future success may hinge on its ability to navigate this delicate balance, satisfying both longstanding fans and attracting new audiences. With upcoming projects and spin-offs, the direction Star Wars takes in the coming years will undoubtedly shape its legacy in the hearts of fans across generations.
@firewisplet6655
@firewisplet6655 4 месяца назад
​@@auroraflash ok chatgpt
@TheCatWatches
@TheCatWatches 7 дней назад
I needed to rewatch this after watching Acolyte. Such a great video essay! Excited for Andor Part II
@gviehmann
@gviehmann 20 дней назад
I like your editing. Not only in the extra part, but also in the others.
@MrGadfly772
@MrGadfly772 4 месяца назад
I appreciate Andor so much as it finally grew up along with it's audience. I saw Star Wars when it first came out in 1977. All those thousands, millions, if people who also saw it that summer have grown up into now old adults. It is so refreshing to see the story finally catch up to its initial audience. Thank you for your excellent analysis.
@auroraflash
@auroraflash 4 месяца назад
Absolutely, it's truly rewarding to see Andor mature and evolve alongside its dedicated audience. The Star Wars saga has been a part of the lives of millions who first experienced it in 1977, and witnessing the narrative resonate with the journey of its original fans is a special and nostalgic experience. The show's ability to grow and adapt while maintaining the essence of the Star Wars universe is commendable. Your appreciation for the excellent analysis further highlights the depth and significance that Andor brings to the table. Here's to the continued success and meaningful storytelling in the galaxy far, far away!
@jonniiinferno9098
@jonniiinferno9098 4 месяца назад
yep - was 17 when star Wars came out - it was awesome - E.S.B. was excellent - RotJ - was pretty good - i felt they played way too much to the younger audience - i felt the the E-Woks should have been a lot more serious... then next set of SW-1 - 3 were decent - however Hayden Christensen's portrayal of Annikin Skywalker was horrible - whiny little brat - cant believe somebody didn't nix his dialogue/re-write those scenes Star Wars: Episode 7 - The Force Awakens (2015) - had so much wasted potential - i didnt watch another till Rogue One - which i thought was very good - i have kept away from the most recent Star Wars spinoffs have not watched Mandalorian - nor Andor but after watching this YT video - i think i will have to check out Andor
@auroraflash
@auroraflash 4 месяца назад
@@jonniiinferno9098 also the story of episode 3 is a little sus: so Anakin got no access to the restricted area of the Jedi archives, where he hopes to find a solution to save his wife’s life by using the dark side. However, he got access to all the light side knowledge; and force healing is a light side ability. You tell me he was too stupid to tell another Jedi master that he wants to learn how to heal his Jedi comrades on the battlefield of the clone wars? Yeah, makes a lot of sense…
@jonniiinferno9098
@jonniiinferno9098 4 месяца назад
@@auroraflash - agreed - somebody in the writing dept was not thinking clearly...
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 4 месяца назад
@@auroraflash Force healing wasn't a thing at the time ROTS was made. It's another dumb retcon.
@patrickquade6433
@patrickquade6433 4 месяца назад
You just summed up everything I’ve felt since finishing Andor. It was so good and so dramatically DIFFERENT. The way you tied it back to the empire strikes back was really eye opening. Well done! Thank you
@solar4planeta923
@solar4planeta923 4 месяца назад
I agree, ESB has always been my favorite of the original 3 movies for the same reason.
@kit2770
@kit2770 Месяц назад
Great job. Great video. Spot-on with your conclusion, and the production in the video is excellent. Very enjoyable. 👍
@poneill65
@poneill65 Месяц назад
Man, I'd forgotten how good Andor was. Time to do that re-watch! (all the drek served up so quickly erases the memory of the few really good shows) Great job on the music and the montages in this video sir!
@melon_man_dan6888
@melon_man_dan6888 4 месяца назад
Your editing at the end is so good. I’m reliving all my goosebumps from watching the show originally. Andor and Rogue One will forever be my favorite pieces of Star Wars. They’re grounded and show the Star Wars universe beyond the fantasy.
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 4 месяца назад
Honestly, the whole video was top tier.
@jamesbatcho
@jamesbatcho 3 месяца назад
That montage at the end is brilliant. When you really see what's being built through great dialogue writing.
@TheFlyingBrain.
@TheFlyingBrain. 2 месяца назад
I agree. Great idea.
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 Месяц назад
Yes. Ever since the teddy bears, I've been longing for an adult version. Like, when you crap your pants when a platoon of white armored well-armed stormtroopers comes after YOU... because you'ld know your final hour has come...
@burieddreamer
@burieddreamer 9 дней назад
"Calm. Kindness. Kinship. Love. I've given up all chance at inner peace. I've made my mind a sunless space. I share my dreams with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion, I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape. I yearned to be a saviour against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet." - Luthen Rael, Andor "We’re going to win this war not by fighting what we hate, but by saving what we love." - Rose, The Last Jedi
@krkngd-wn6xj
@krkngd-wn6xj 3 месяца назад
"The pace of oppression outstrips our ability to understand it" is a really good quote, god. For me, an Eastern European, that is a feeling I get every time I read the news from my country.
@lunar5616
@lunar5616 3 месяца назад
Reletable af, Poland here
@francischambless5919
@francischambless5919 3 месяца назад
@@lunar5616 Absofraggenlutely, coming from a US citizen marginalized. History is being rewritten to hide the tyranny of today.
@denvan3143
@denvan3143 3 месяца назад
The oppression in Europe during the 1930s and 1940s and the oppression in the Asian theater during the same time. Wasn’t beyond our ability to resist. The alliance to confront that oppression was on the back foot, but it gained its footing and the allies were victorious. Those same forces of oppression arising today; it isn’t a matter of comprehension. It is once again a matter of confrontation.
@francischambless5919
@francischambless5919 3 месяца назад
@@denvan3143 too many Neville Chamberlains in power today like there was then.
@communist754
@communist754 3 месяца назад
​​​@@denvan3143sorry, but that's such a naive view. The only reason why we believe that the forces of oppression were defeated is because the victors write the history. All participants of the WWII were pretty terrible, although I have a soft spot for USSR as least terrible of them.
@harrykatsaros
@harrykatsaros 2 месяца назад
If I were in charge I would back up a truck full of money onto Tony Gilroy’s driveway and get down on hands and knees begging him to become the custodian of this entire franchise.
@e7venjedi
@e7venjedi Месяц назад
omg 2:18 is some great editing. strap in boys and girls. we're in good hands here 🙂
@user-kp3hw5ny6f
@user-kp3hw5ny6f 13 дней назад
well done-really enjoyed that must watch ANDOR now-again
@discflame
@discflame 3 месяца назад
Your montage editing show more storytelling capability than anything else. The preservation of motion, the correlation of scenes, how everything meshes together. Ough, so good.
@danisnotawombat6042
@danisnotawombat6042 3 месяца назад
Yeah! It must have been so much work
@spell1283
@spell1283 4 месяца назад
Making the analogy between children's shows and the new Star Wars is brilliant. They share a very similar feeling for me too.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 4 месяца назад
Can we please stop pretending that this is some new phenomena? This has been going on since Return of the Jedi at the very least, nd the cast of A New Hope thought they were just making some dumb kids movie.
@wilhelmaschenberger5556
@wilhelmaschenberger5556 4 месяца назад
all star wars movies are for children. never understood why adults are still into it.@@ScooterinAB
@stickiedmin6508
@stickiedmin6508 4 месяца назад
​@@ScooterinAB Agreed - it was ever thus. All over the Internet we see Star Wars 'fans' endlessly complaining and stubbornly holding on to the delusion that things have changed somehow - that the Star Wars they remember from when they were kids was amazing, but that anything that came along afterwards is universally terrible. The exact same complaints, recycled over and over, decade after decade, none of them ever noticing that they sound exactly like those from the previous generation. Someone who grew up with and loved the prequel trilogy, for example, who could never understand why those grouchy old original trilogy purists hated it so much, slips neatly into that role themselves and starts moaning about everything that came along *_after_* the prequels. Star Wars hasn't changed - *_we_* changed. We got old, that's all
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 4 месяца назад
@@wilhelmaschenberger5556 Adults can like things that are for kids. Bluey (a show for preschoolers) is apparently well regarded by adults. But Star Wars is primarily made for kids. The target audience is kids, not 50 year old men who watched the first movie in theatres. There's nothing wrong with that, but it does mean that angry 50 year old men should maybe pump the brakes and stop pretending like it's for them exclusively.
@fancy_avocado
@fancy_avocado День назад
the way each clip transitions into the next one seamlessly HELLO??? come through editing
@fusbroduh
@fusbroduh 2 месяца назад
What a superb analysis. You articulated what has been bugging me but couldn't put my finger on it.
@JuanFigueroa-gh8zq
@JuanFigueroa-gh8zq 4 месяца назад
Thank you. Star Wars is deeply personal to me. My father gave it to me, first as a novelization of an upcoming movie, then standing in lines for hours every weekend in the Summer of 1977, to asking me to put the Star Wars DVD in to watch 2 days before he passed. What Disney has mostly done to Star Warts offends me. I am only glad my Pops isn't here now to see it. Andor, however, feels true. Feels right. Feels like it honors what came before it. Pops would really love it.
@MarysiaKosowski
@MarysiaKosowski 4 месяца назад
I agree. I never actually wanted a "de-infantilized Star Wars." I loved the prequels and the original trilogy just fine in all their blend of epic grandeur, romanticism, lighthearted humor, fun for all ages--and yes, fantasy archetypes. Not so keen on these new Disney sequels, though I haven't watched the shows yet.
@RodCornholio
@RodCornholio 4 месяца назад
Disney ruined our "Happy Ending". At risk of speaking for others, collectively, we saw _Return of the Jedi_ and assumed the main characters remained friends/lovers etc. All we wanted was to see the gang back together, as they were, kicking the butts of bad guys if necessary. Passing the torch, if necessary. Dying, if the death were _meaningful_ . Instead, we got broken relationships, broken heroes. Just dang depressing. The best Disney could do is create some _Men In Black_ Neuralyzer device to erase those movies from our memories, destroy the sequels from existence, somehow convince Lucas to, at least, outline some stories, or - even better - return it to Lucasfilm. Disney, clearly, can not be trusted with the worldwide treasure that is Star Wars. If you give a kid a Ferrari and they wreck it...
@medatativemotivations7460
@medatativemotivations7460 4 месяца назад
I'm not going to lie, this comment brought tears to my eyes.. R.I.P to your father and god bless you and your family. I lost my mom 4 years ago and my father is in his late 60s so I understand exactly how you feel
@JuanFigueroa-gh8zq
@JuanFigueroa-gh8zq 4 месяца назад
@@medatativemotivations7460 I miss my Pops everyday. Hugs. Thank you.
@jones1618
@jones1618 2 месяца назад
@@RodCornholio Star Wars has always walked a fine line. Lucas made a rootin'-tootin' space shoot'em up with real heart, real stakes and real good and evil. People criticize some of the sequels for veering toward the rootin'-tootin' easy fun side and some people criticize the sequels and spin-offs for being too gritty real. I am OK with there being two "faces" of Star Wars. However, I do agree with you that the essential thing they shouldn't (but sometimes do) lose is honesty/authenticity. The sacrifices have to be necessary and important. The "wins" shouldn't be contrived, unearned or tricks. Sometimes, over the hours and hours and hours of Star Wars content made by hundreds and hundreds of creators they don't always get that right.
@jasonshortphd
@jasonshortphd 4 месяца назад
Well done! I grew up in the 80s on military bases. I always sort of viewed them as them empire in a way. Andor is my FAVORITE bit of Star Wars. I love it so much. The soul crushing despair is exactly what I imagine it would be for everyone.
@ght405
@ght405 2 месяца назад
awesome video the montage cut at the end was the best conclusion.
@ThirdPlanetStudio
@ThirdPlanetStudio 2 месяца назад
This is so well articulated. I've tried to explain this same thing to other people and why I'm unable to watch Star wars anymore. Now I can just send them this! Great video!
@syproful
@syproful 2 месяца назад
You can just watch Andor ? Or wait for more. It took Band of Brothers also 10 years for sequels.
@minkalampinen9519
@minkalampinen9519 4 месяца назад
I did not expect realism from Star Wars so Andor was a joy to watch. We need more of this level of storytelling in a Star Wars setting.
@Bell_the_Cat
@Bell_the_Cat 4 месяца назад
100% agree. Andor, way more than even Rogue One, felt like someone had snuck in under Disney's radar and flipped the reset switch on the entire franchise.
@CanadianDadReacts
@CanadianDadReacts Месяц назад
I enjoyed this tremendously. Great job.
@ericcolvin3546
@ericcolvin3546 7 дней назад
This is great analysis. I have zero interest in Disney Channel, but I did pass my housemate watching Andor on a couple of occasions - and the experience was memorable. For some reason, I remember that prison escape scene (by no means, I expect, their best - but there was something interesting going on). Back in the days of 16mm, BVU, Betacam and D9 it was easy to tell in a matter of seconds, when you came in on a story, whether it was a feature or TV movie/episode. Since the noughties, that is slightly trickier, since all broadcast quality DV matches (or surpasses - though Nolan would disagree) celluloid quality. But you'll still have a pretty good idea within minutes - largely by the quality of the shots and dialogue. Beghast has effectively explained what that is which makes cinema stand out from TV.
@TheIceIvy
@TheIceIvy 4 месяца назад
I got a star wars ad before watching this video. Thought I'd share for no reason at all.
@magicweaver4466
@magicweaver4466 4 месяца назад
That always happens
@Am-gs3cn
@Am-gs3cn 4 месяца назад
Thx for sharing I love you
@Mikebloke
@Mikebloke 4 месяца назад
Really? I got one for a free adult toy 😂
@wawawuu1514
@wawawuu1514 4 месяца назад
You need an adblocker, dude.
@Bob-Fields
@Bob-Fields 4 месяца назад
Ad? What is that?
@ElSnakeObwb
@ElSnakeObwb 4 месяца назад
Those last 7 minutes. I got goosebumps watching that part. That was such a great honor to one of (if not the) best Starwars spinoff shows, Masterfully done
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