I’m an academic. Not only did I have to write a diversity statement for my job, I was asked to revise it AFTER I was hired. The word “tolerance” was “not inclusive enough.” You can’t make this stuff up. Not sure if this is even discussed here but this is my guy.
“The word tolerance isn’t quite emotionally charged enough for us, we’d like you to revise it.” “Be thankful I’m ‘tolerant’ at all. You don’t want to see me emotionally charged. Be thankful for what you’ve been given and what you have not.”
I'm sorry you had to endure the imposition of hostile ideology into your daily life. It wasn't me that did it, but I'm still sorry. I feel a lot of people just need to hear that. Society has failed so many for so long now.
It's not just in the academic world. It's in business, and perhaps in more subtle ways than blatantly asking for a DEI statement from prospective or current employees. For example, my company, which makes management software for school districts, just distributed an employee satisfaction survey, which had about 10 questions relating to how equitable and inclusive the company is. And though it's touted as an anonymous survey, and participation is optional, it's really neither. If we want to trace who gave which answers and who participated and who didn't, it's easy enough to find.
I visited a state college Creative Writing class, way up North. The class consisted of a 100# spectacled young female teacher, five white girls also fro way up North and a Black guy, maybe an athlete, but a real smart ass . He ran the class like a Bully. I almost took the class even though it was too far away, and it would have otherwise been a poor repeat of a class I had just finished, to educate the kids and the teacher about life. The price of petrol is too damn high. (In my former life I helped train surgeons)
This is one of my favourite episodes. I like when JBP has someone else who is familiar with psychological literature at a level that is comparable. You get another perspective on relative material.
He's been far more helpful to me than any of the 30 psychs I saw over nearly 30 years - except for 3. So about 10% of them are useful ime. And now, in the Age of Untruth, how can you trust any professional who supports biological myth.
In name of the future society, I’m very glad, honored and proud of having people like you! If I was your son I would be so proud of having the courageous father for keeping standing for what is correct and true. 🙌🏻👏🏼
It is important to remember that most people with cluster B personality disorders are completely unaware that they have a cluster B personality disorder.
Self awareness or lack there of is a phenomenon for all human beings. We're all blinded by so much since we're mostly not conscious and most is hidden in subconscious. I'd suggest most people with traumatic experiences DO know they've suffered these experiences and that they've been affected in some way by them.
@@MarcusN-kp1jn Freud, Carl jung. These and many more speak about the metaphor " unconscious and subconscious " including Jordan peterson himself. As for Knowledge we know, what we don't know, what we don't know we don't know etc I couldn't reference whom exactly speaks of this but its quite obvious since we're all limited human being's in terms of knowledge. I think you were asking me regarding source. It's generally well known in psychology terms
I grew up in the 90s. We played house and wandered through the woods with sticks in our hands pretending we were wizards and knights. We got the entire neighborhood involved. Everyone hung out at our house, and we played video games, but we wanted to play outside more than we played video games. We grew up with anime and still watched it into my 30s. My Dad also kicked our asses if we were disrespectful 😂 i recoil from modern society because it doesnt make sense. Social interaction has become weaponized and trust is breaking down in the workplace. I refuse to leave my home because I dont want to deal with people. I take my son to the park and he has a good life, but I dread speaking with other parents because they are, on average, insane. He isn't in school yet, but Im not looking forward to having to deal with parents and teachers in a modern age. I thought I was cluster B for so long, but I realize that I had a very good childhood, and looking back, i appreciate it more, even though we grew up poor as shit. The incentive structure in our everyday world is the problem, not just online. Im not a doctor or scientist, but I believe that the internet and social media are magnifying the already existing incentive structure and making it easier for psychos to get what they want. People get more attention for behaving like psychos and degenerates, which makes it easier for genius, millionaire psychos to manipulate people. It's not the result of the internet. It was always there, waiting to be unleashed. Technology has been unleashed on us, and we have not caught up to its progress. Maybe im just blind, though. Men have resorted to backstabbing because the cpnsequences for fist fights are 10x what they used to be. We have been neutered by a feminine culture.
Dr. Peterson, I would love to meet you for even an hour. I loved my mother very much, but she had deep, deep issues which resulted from childhood trauma. I think she did her best. But I was an adult raising an alcoholic and prescription abuser at the age of 14. I talked my mother down out of suicide attempts. I still to this day do not know what her official diagnosis would have been, but in all accounts I should be really messed up. I had a grandmother that I looked at like my mother. And my mother was comforting and loving, when she was lucid or okay. I swore I would never repeat my mother’s mistakes, and while I’m not perfect, I think I have done okay. Attachment theory was very strong to me with my children, but I also knew they needed to fail at times. My kids right now are happy and healthy, but teens…so there are ups and downs for sure. This talk is fascinating to me because I do not know how I escaped my childhood relatively unharmed (I mean there is emotional harm for sure)…but I saw therapists on my own when I was old enough and I came to accept that I could never save my mother, but I also wondered for a long time why I wasn’t worth it to her. I’m just barely into this talk but I had to share.
This stuff always opens doors for me. When I do finally share some of the stuff I have seen in my lifetime with other people, they look at me like how could I be somewhat normal. I think my grandmother fulfilled the maternal piece missing when my mom wasn’t there. I’ve also let go of the anger. My mom has been gone for 20 years now and a long time ago I decided to stop being angry at her.
i’m glad you were able to overcome generational trauma for your children. i know it is difficult but i pray that you continue to fight for yourself and your children! God bless you and praying for your continued diligence and perseverance. ❤
Playing inside with a guitar or bass really rocked too! I pity kids (and adults!) that think a $1200 phone is the 'coolest thing ever.' No it ain't. Coolest thing ever is a well-functioning human MIND.
From birth my mother never showed me any love my entire life. To her I was on the same level as a piece of furniture. Ignored and forgotten. It utterly destroyed me for the majority of my life. Thank God for Ayahuasca. First time I ever felt love in my life and its the reason I'm still here.
Wonder how much the birth control pills change the women´mental stability as Tammy Peterson, Jordan´s wife also admited that she had depression from the pills, but as she stoped ussing them the depressions went away...She said Jordan also noticed a changes in her attitude. Both did interv iew with the expert who stiudies the side effects and women who took the pills.
Very nice talk. Jordan, your generosity to provide this functional display of Haltigan's expertise and professionalism for potential employers is not lost. Haltigan's preparation for the interview and execution met your generosity. Bravo to you both and best of luck in the market! You are loved and cherished by millions.
I have a cluster b mother and i tend towards avoidant personality. I love her but I'm convinced something happened to her as a toddler because she behaves just like one, ive gone no contact to save my sanity
That's basically exactly what happened, it's what stunts them at that level. Hence why Amber Herd as a matter of court record is under age 5 upstairs. Somehow for being adult of body, far too many likewise such children albeit perhaps stalled out at a higher stage of development, are given a pass as adult. Consent laws as they currently stand kinda fall apart in light of this, but standing around the whole time clad in mythril ready to do the job that contract law rooted consent standards are ill suited for has been Private Property Rights. It's even in the name, Private Property Rights.
@@bwatt1383 A sad, but wise move you've made here. I've had the same experience with members of my adult family too. I won't tolerate such immature, negative behaviour, family or not.
Wonder how much the birth control pills change the women´mental stability as Tammy Peterson, Jordan´s wife also admited that she had depression from the pills, but as she stoped ussing them the depressions went away...She said Jordan also noticed a changes in her attitude. Both did interv iew with the expert who stiudies the side effects and women who took the pills.
@@alenaadamkova5322I was on BC pills for about 6 years. I was borderline psychotic, extremely suicidal and would engage in self-injurious behaviour. I stopped taking it 7 months ago because I knew it was fucking with my head. Never felt those thoughts since stopping it. I genuinely believe it made me crazy and irrational My doctor is still trying to push it back on me after I told her how it affected me. Apparently me wanting to throw myself in front of a car everyday is not enough of a sign that those synthetic crazy hormone pills aren’t for me
I'm so sorry to hear this... understanding her condition I hope will go a long way in healing and acceptance of whatever has happened.. that doesn't make it any less painful I'd imagine but may go someway in helping you truely forgive anything that had previously been un-forgivable... strength to you..
I have finally settled down enough to listen and absorb and I’m so glad I did. I just finished the Daily Wire section and I have so much respect for Dr. Haltigan and so much anticipation for Peterson Academy. Loads of thoughts to share but this platform is not permitting me to do so. You know, Dr. Peterson, in every comment section, there are people who want to talk to you, and I do wonder if Peterson Academy could be a place to earn that. If someone wishing to speak with you could do excellent work and catch your attention that way, wouldn’t that mean a lot to people who have ideas of merit but who haven’t seen their work crowned with success yet? And your encouragement could bolster them to press on, as listening to your lectures encouraged me to do? Something I’ve been thinking about lately. With Ruth Anne’s love. ❤
Huh. A thing my mother used to do to me a lot was stare at me for long periods of time with a totally blank face while my father mocked me for being uncomfortable. Never knew it was a documented thing before
Oh man! That's awful! Really a kind of torture! My heart hurts for you. I hope you have healed, or are healing from this childhood abuse. I hope you at least can learn to recognise the effects this kind of treatment on your psyche. Some research may help you. Obviously you're here, hearing Jordan speak, which is a good thing.
@@nevillegoddard4966 Jesus revealed himself to me a few years back. Gave me the strength to get up and walk out of the family I know for sure I'm one of these people who by secular understanding I should be dead, or in prison, or so anti-social that nobody can reach me, but Jesus has power greater than man
i feel you man i have similar treatments. i never see my father smiled at me for once. dude i am a female. like what have i done wrong. i even never dated anyone let alone having sex. like my father never praised me as a kid. my mother has schizo and i was abused physically by her.
@@NeraBuffy makes me think of the saying that one partner will bend their ways to match another, maybe the father converted to keep the wife happy. Very strange behaviour.
The psychological integrity of the mother (of trans patients) is the subject being ignored in modern instituion. The mothers are full of unhealed sexual rage and in order to avoid reinvigorating their toxic shame, they deflect vulnerable experiences of sexual development in their children and jump on board with whatever "other" idea the child comes up with. Absolutely toxic abandonment of self for the sake of the Mothers survival.
In infancy the infant is completely dependent. I don't believe an infants cry should ever be ignored. Not that a parent can't go to the bathroom, prepare a bottle, or grab a diaper. Response should be as prompt as possible. The infant will still cry enough to develop strong lungs. As the infant matures to around 4 months, hopefully, you've got a fairly good schedule on board. This is foundational for secure attachment. Ideally, a mom has help because responding to an infants every need is no easy task, especially if one has other children.
In many other parts of the world ( and more so past times , babies were ALWAYS carried or with mum for at least 2 years ,while supported thru,family,& other women.
@@user-us3pi4es5bI carried my son in a wrap around the house when he was a newborn. He was 9 pounds when he was born and gained weight quickly so I didn’t carry him around very long lol But he hardly ever cried. He’s 7 now and the most affectionate boy towards his friends and family 🥰
I believe that these types of discussions are of the highest value because they are absolutely essential to the understanding of how to best impact our next generation
Outstanding discussion, and such an important one. I hope that J T Haltigan can find some more opportunities to share his knowledge in the world of online education. No smartphones for under 16s would be a big step in the right direction. We all need to spend less time online if possible. I'd even say that one true friend that you can meet and talk to in person is worth a 100 online "friends" that you never actually meet. The scammers are out there in droves too. We are living in an age of insanity in many ways and we have to be watchful and attentive at all times.
i love what was mentioned about integrating a child into society, like something Jordan mentioned in some past video about (if i recall correctly) how he saw that these miners (or some other blue-collar workers) would interact with each other through name calling for example, i feel like its so important for a parent to not always interfere with their children arguing with each other or with other friends in order for them to learn to manage their emotions through the conflict and then also learn conflict resolution, something helicopter parenting may interrupt
I live in Australia. I associate with a logging community (forests). An old logger (born late 1930s) told me the story of how he was laughed at, teased and ridiculed by the loggers every day for two weeks because his mother had made him lunch and he brought his lunch pail and ate it. He was 15. At the end of two weeks, the most dominant logger in the group sat down with him and told him, "He was now part of the group." Why? I asked the old retired logger. He said - because they told him he had remained calm, persisted in eating his mother's lunch through all the bullying, so they could trust he would remain calm when an accident or emergency happened. And they knew he respected his mother and was capable of respecting others.
The discussion about screens is something I’ve noticed a lot at my work. I work part time at a local sandwich shop, and there are constantly customers on their phones while I’m taking their orders. I often leave them be, but sometimes I just ask them how their day’s going. It occasionally ends up spiraling into a 20-30 minute conversation where we end up talking about the insanity of the culture shift in this country. It is so interesting to see how many different industries have been affected by the digitization of life. I’ve had conversations with people ranging from film to agriculture and they all talk about how much they’ve noticed a change in sales or culture around the products they sell in relation to computers and how willing people are to leave their homes even just for a few hours to do something in the outside world
I am so glad you two talked, Dr. Peterson, it has been a delight watching the connection and mutual professional respect grow between you both. I am so glad to hear that the ARC forum in Germany went so well, dearest Dr. Peterson. The lecture you offered there was so timely given recent events in the States where I live, and gave me comfort on what has been a shattering weekend. Most of the time, I listen to you to know how you’re doing, and to learn something. But tonight I’m too shook up to absorb knowledge and wisdom and I’m just listening to you for comfort. I use that word in the old-fashioned sense, “with strength,” not the “Abraham hanging out in his tent” sense. As your days, so shall your strength be, as God promised Joshua, dearest Dr. Peterson. I’m for you. You are precious to me. With Ruth Anne’s love P. S. The title does make me smile and laugh, a little shakily. If Dr. Peterson is banging on about the damn chimps, then “God’s in His Heaven, all’s right with the world.” That was NOT a troll but a very affectionate joke.
For anyone watching these on release every time, I did the same thing for a month and picked up a lot of the ideas despite not owning them personally- just sharing my experience, fully refreshed listening through and much more easily digested. P.S. Going into senior year at college and we got to pick our identities so I got extra credit for inventing mine plus an incredible homework late pass good for all year because it was voted #1 in the whole class for our Lack of Further Specification award! I’m a Peterhead and proudly supporting the cause in a leadership position, although, we remain careful that no one discusses what that means in a shared way because someone may be excluded and that is grounds for instant expulsion. This is the most exciting event to happen in a long time so I couldn’t help but share, thanks! Peterhead ❤️❤️❤️
You will be amazed on how you can track that mentality and behavior in the plethora of regulations by FMCSA in trucking and through insurance companies with OSHA.
I had a roommate situation where there were two children. The mother spent at least 9 hrs per day on multi media. Her 5 year old son resorted to making her phone chargers disappear. Additionally, her 4 yr old daughter was unable to regulate her emotions. Very sad!
" Cluster B: A person with this type has difficulties regulating their emotions and behavior. Others may consider their behavior dramatic, emotional, or erratic. There are four cluster B disorders: antisocial, borderline, histrionic, and narcissistic personality disorders. " --- I FIND I TOO HVE THESE TENDENCIES BUT ONLY IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS NOT ALL SITUATIONS ...I AM TRYING TO WORK ON THE WAY I HANDLE MYSELF...IT'S STRESSFUL AND IN SOME CASES ALMOST CANCEROUS TOXICITY DEALING WITH SOMEONE SIMILAR OR WORSE IN CONSTANT ENVIRONMENT
@@palmina77italiana At least you recognise these tendencies Palmina! You're on a positive path now! It may help you to just think first, before acting, or reacting to what goes on with your interactions with others. Thinking things from the point of view of others could help. Too. There's no need for the allcaps. All your words here are important, & it's like you're yelling at us when you do this.
one take away from this wonderful, intelligent conversation is the abject social foulness of DEI. Dr. Peterson, Professor Haltigan, I commend you both. Keep up the good work!
As a 42 y/o mixed race woman, I look back on my forming identity over the years where there were many personalities I tried on however I always knew who I was. I think my father telling us who we were and to be proud of that anchored myself through the turbulent times.
41:50. The ability or inability to control one’s emotions have a lot to do with diet and television/movie influence, not to mention social media. “Those unwilling to control their emotions and actions that follow will be subject to incredible injustice“.
@@alexmeier1Exactly! We are not rational creatures at first but rationalizing ones. If this phase or condition is not corrected at some point early great disfunction can result. I see this in the modern radical" progressive " left in so many ways. Along with several other pathology in the category of immature behavior disguised in woke pseudo psychology and sociology.
has anyone ever heard of the Scandinavian Psychologist Erik Erikson's 'theory of Personality and Social Development' where he puts forward that there are eight stages of 'personality development' throughout our lives starting in the infant stage with the development of trust, and on into our old age with the last stage of our 'personality development' with wisdom. Anyone know about this?
👍And I too salute both the host & the guest for this great talk , great enough to «either staying silent & not commenting on it at all or commenting with great reverence , that is to say clinically & ……… »
I find myself repeating exercises of trauma from memories as a toddler. I yell in an argument- even though I'm stupidly inside my own head telling myself it's counterproductive to yell. Yet there I am Possessed by this stupid fit.
As a young adult, I sometimes struggle with whether they'll come a time where I have to choose between a more illustrious career (but corrupted) and the less attractive alternative. Material success is very attractive to GenZ becuz of the "Get rich get fancy car" narrative we've been fed. Wish I could have both but maybe not...
Try to get a remote job. There are courses online (no beyond 400 euros, others might be scams) and don't forget books. You'll work for yourself. Work to live. Not live to work. True richness is time. Money is a tool to do what you want. Seek emotions. Not material stuff. Material things will become obsolete eventually, but memories will stay with you forever. Travel as much as you can. Don't fall into capitalism trap that forces you to slave away at work and then tries to convince you that you have to buy stuff. No. Time is more important. Unfortunately for them, elite rich psycopaths who are unable to feel deep emotions (truly unable, due to different amigdala) promote consumption, sells, materialism etc. If you are able to feel sth, build memories. Not a pile of things that will eventually turn to rusty scraps
It’s such a real and difficult decision. Im quite a bit older but im looking at whether to continue with what’s more lucrative vs changing to something more impactful. Careful financial planning is the best option. Figure out what you need and that’s a good starting point.
@15 that was so spot on. My dad traveled for work 2 or 3 weeks a month. Whenever he left it felt like my mom was making problems so we constantly came running in the help.
@30 min I agree their is way too much pressure to be perfect vs working through problems. I think social media and a constant exposure of people’s life’s experiences that they voluntarily subscribe, is a major factor of the problem.
I started university in the United Kingdom and I’ve completed my first year. I’m so torn because I love learning and writing and researching but absolutely nothing about it encourages that. At the start of each new class, everybody is asked to state their pronouns - WHAT?! I just cannot believe the state of the conversations we have in class, no critical thinking whatsoever. & then I’m deemed a demon for questioning absolutely anything! It’s an absolute shit show and infuriates me.
My mother was orphaned at 2 years old and was raised by her uncle and his demonic wife. As a result mom was histrionic narcissistic cluster b personality. Just now realizing the damage smh done to me my siblings and our children. God bless these two men. 🙏🏽✨
Thank you gentlemen for this interesting conversation. At about 42:00 Additionl factors to investigate are the parents, caregivers, extended family, health, vaccinations and medical interventions, diet, living circumstances, education and recreation habits, and the natural environment.
Are there any studies/literature on the repercussions/consequences of the '1 Child Policy' in China, which is by now multi-generational in its scope...
Thanks Jordan I’m a first year bachelor of psychology student and a JBP fan for years. I’m looking forward to some interesting conversations with my professors 😂🤣😂👍
The problem with a devouring mother idea is very rarely its better the mother over protects than lets the child be corrupted with pain. So it becomes an estranged balancing act.
The still facial effect explains my childhood. 26:00 - 31:00 This also explain why my sister is so sensitive with facial expressions. If I show still expressions resemblance of my parents, she will think that I show anger or threats to her. If I am seen as that, she would assume I put my ego so high and she perceives that I am more superior than her and that will make her mad. My still facial expressions triggers her.
Outside the academic aspect of this trend of the cluster B mentality towards a whole generation, I think Tinseltown's manipulative influence deserves some attention as well. I have noticed in the recent years how almost every TV series or movie highlights two major aspects, woven cunningly into the fabric of almost every script: Guilt (shaming) and (uncontrolled) Rage. Any series I watch nowadays will inevitably have a scene where mature adults, the supposed role models, suddenly throw a tantrum at the slightest setback. Rage, as a manifestation of frustration, has been normalised in moving pictures. The extent to which I see this can no longer be seen as a coincidence. Gone are the days of the cool cats like Steve McQueen, Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood. All we see now is unhinged heroes, no matter their status or otherwise powerful appearance. I distinctly remember that for me, the most obvious first case was when Disney picked up the Star Wars franchise and created the new generation of heroes. In the very first production, we got an angry feminist, a scared converted storm trooper and an infantile Sith Lord that was slamming his light sabre in the walls because his prisoner escaped. I am convinced that the portray of such mental weakness and the invitation to vent via aggression is a conscious strategy. This new wave started suddenly and was everywhere. It is now woven into the fabric of any moving picture, irrespective of writer or director, simply because the scripts are screened and controlled centrally by the same corporate companies, that want to distort reality. And this new generation grows up thinking that this is the norm. Seeing this, I am not surprised to see that especially the US is increasingly trigger happy as soon as any divergent thought appears. The modern world, with the US at the helm, is digressing into a state of the more primitive human, where violence is the solution instead of social adaptation and moderation which would lead to compromise, consensus and peace. This is why I'm afraid we are moving towards wars, globally. Since the US is in the lead of both this brainwashing trend (and their entertainment is what is consumed most globally), while they also have the most powerful military force, this will inevitably lead to global conflict. The current narrative of both Dems and RINO's mirrors this perfectly: both want war. They will not allow a president to live who wants peace. The only way to stop this madness is by starting at the roots: a dramatic change in the education, academic and media landscape, with a highly regulated social media and entertainment industry. The reason this will not happen however, is because this counters the very strong current (and just!) trend of freedom of speech, as a counter against an increasingly totalitarian and censoring deep state. Now there's a conundrum... I'm marooned myself in this, as I think free speech is crucial to stop them from enslaving us. But if free speech allows for creating a monkey world where we bash each other's head in, because ultimately the strongest voices are those controlling the money, therefore the tools, then isn't that worse? We can only hope in strong leaders that can handle the tools they get in their hands. I'm afraid anarchy would only serve those that have been profiting from centralised power.
Jordan, hay una opción en RU-vid que permite que una IA haga el doblaje de tu voz en en español en tiempo real, deberías hacerlo para poder llegar a más personas
Jordan, I Love you. From man to man, I Love you. I have similar thinking patterns as you. My mind is a sponge that seeks to understand some of the most complex behaviors in animals. It is fun to learn it is fun to critically think.
thank you, Jordan an awesome amazing human who is so much loved by so many ppl ❣ and thanked for his existence as an important gift from a life-free present 😇😇🙏 thank you just an awesome amazing human who is so much loved by so many ppl and thanked for her existence as an important gift from a life-free present