The Punisher Humbles the Joker 

Honestly if you did somethin g with 100 Bullets that'd be cool

Maybe some of the elseworlds stuff?

There was a great Batman/Captain America vs Red Skull/Joker. Had a lot of great lines!

​@@derp-construction3341a simple undoing of that with Joker and Red Skull wouldn't get along also I think there may be a crossover already establishing that cuz Joker doesn't like Nazis I can't remember if that's New or Old writing though

@@codyfoster148 Joker, upon finding out that Red Skull isn't just a gimmick but an actual Nazi: "I may be a criminal lunatic, but I'm an American criminal lunatic." It was also interesting that they were both immune to each other's poisons.

It just shows why Joker doesn't mess with anybody else that isn't from Gotham

@@novaeye6081 He does all the time. In Injustice for example. But even in the canon of the comics, the Joker poisoned the Justice League and sent a Jokerized Superman and others against Batman. Joker doesn't really fear anything.

@@CrazeWayYT You're right, but the only one he actually enjoys messing with is Batman. When he tried to mess with Frank, he saw he wasn't messing around. I think Joker can't deal well with heroes that kill without a thought... like Punisher. Those that never had anything against killing to begin with are kind of his weakness in a way. They're "no fun" as Joker would say.

Not really the Joker before 2016 rarely went after other Justice leaguers because nothing he had could effect him. Now he has plot armor. his gas can effect someone faster the speed of light, aliens, with different DNA, demigods, because writers need him still be a threat to Batman.

@@novaeye6081frank castle can pull trigger, because he doesn’t give a damn

The punisher # 1

Red Hood: FUCKING FINALLY

@@vsgfilmgroup hahahahaha!!

Oh hello again

Ohhh, that's so fuckin' badass.

Possible. After all, if he ever got Batman to kill him, it would be the ultimate victory for him, having finally gotten the Batman to break his one rule. The Punisher, on the other hand, would barely care.

Modern Joker IS this force of chaos now. He's not afraid of death the way you or I are, like you said, he almost doesn't care if it was a good funny chaotic death.

@@TheyCallMeVincenzo true, but I still think the idea of his death not meaning anything to the guy killing him would throw him off

@@garasu29again not really Death stroke was hired to kill him and joker made fun of em through the whole ordeal,even outwitted him cause death stroke underestimated him Again Death stroke Slade Wilson One of if not THE top assassin in DC

​@@brandonspencer5594Caracterizaciónes siempre son incosistentes en cómics así que eso explica porque Jocker actuó así Characterizations are always inconsistent in comics so that explains why Joker acted like that when Deadshot went for him. But something that is more or less consistent is his fear of being forgotten without importance. For example, at the end of the Arkham games, the Joker takes over Batman's body and is injected with the fear toxin and everything he sees is like no one except Harley remembers him.

From Franks perspective the Joker is a common thug. Lunatic to be sure, but some worthless thug all the same.

@@WhipLash42o yep, exactly.

He did talk to him for second to be frank.

Well said! 👍

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Joker’s biggest fear is being forgotten.

Same.

The mouse ain’t having it.

@@Emery101 disney hahahaha

they just dont fit the same mold, most of DC is just on average alot more powerful then their marvel counterparts and then it creats this weird bit where popular characters cant lose fights they should, flash could body the vast majority of people in marvel and so could superman and mm because they were made to fit a different mold, it doesnt make marvel any worse of a franchise but it creates inconsistencies that nobody wants

​@@shastacat9632batman😂

Superman: No, Not again, Not Anymore! *Erases Joker out off Existence*

They’re secret lovers

@@TheSuperboy_Prime then batman says fk it and puts superman on prison for the rest of his ife for killing a single maniac and not the maniac itself

@@Niccogamer01 Superman will Laugh at Batman then Fly back to Kansas to enjoy Dinner with Lois and Jon

@@_grievous_the_epok_gamur_7140 with how this comic ended I have to agree

Depressingly so yes.

@@nash6568Cept it doesn’t 😂

​@brandonspencer5594 It does. Batman has had Joker dead to rights but he let's him go because he thinks it'll make him just as bad. When in fact letting him go causes more death than killing him. But Batman isn't directly killing those people so he doesn't care. Batmans a pussy.

Batman isn’t a murderer, plain and simple.

@@epiccthuluyeah but it’s not Batman killing the joker it’s the punisher or Gordon or anyone else it’s dumb Batman can perfectly be fine without joker like in Arkham city/knight idk why he needs him so badly it’s silly joker killed thousands of people idk why Batman needs to jerk off joker that badly

Due to how Joker has faced anti-heroes out to kill him in the past, this scene doesn't make any sense and is completely out of character imo just to elevate Frank as more formidable than he already is. Damian Wayne for instance had the intention to beat him to death with a crowbar, Jason Todd almost blew his brains out trying to force Batman to break his one rule and Deathstroke signed a contract to kill Joker as well in another storyline, etc None of these moments phased Joker. In fact it achieved the opposite, it excited him.

​@mikecabrera7393 - Joker's confident in most situations. Even with the likes of Jason Todd. He knows Batman will never let him die. With Castle. There wasn't some emotional vendetta, no revenge, no personal reasoning. It was just Frank treating him like any other criminal. Something the Joker fears. Not being treated like he's special, like a nobody. Punisher doesn't care about nonsense. There's Jigsaw, but Castle is his frustrated he manages to get away more than anything.

​@@jasonalbran376You get it.

But you're discounting the fact that Joker was willing to die that night. He even attempted suicide by bombing all three of them when Batman found a way to win without killing him or Jason. By characterization the dude doesn't fear death. Also Joker has a twisted fantasy of driving Batman off the deep end where Batman finally kills him. So he may know that Batman would probably not end up killing him but if he did he'd see it as a victory. With Deathstroke there was no emotional vendetta, no revenge or personal reason either. He wasn't afraid and in fact welcomed the challenge. For Deathstroke Joker was just another target. I still doubt that Joker would fear Castle but probably would feel personally insulted due to his narcissism if he didn't treat him as special. It would most likely anger him rather than have him pissing his pants. This crossover doesn't really understand Joker as a character tbh@@jasonalbran376

I get it too I just disagree with it. Joker would most likely not fear Castle but he would probably feel offended or angry at the fact that Castle would treat him as nothing more than just another criminal he would kill like all the others.@@CZPC

Gotham looks like metropolis on a good day when frank comes to town

While I dissagre that he should kill villains if they are already defeated and he has a chose to send them to secure prisons (nor Arkham or Blackgate they are pathetic at their job), but sometimes monsters just have to be put down because no one can stop them, Joker is a good example, while I dislike Punishers philosophy because he targets even minor criminals like thieves, jaywalkers and sometimes kills a reformed criminals that weren't a threat even when they were evil, but Joker should be put down for good, he can't be imprisoned so it is better to kill him.

Interesting moment but I also think its one of the dumbest moments in a DC crossover comic. Joker has faced vigilantes out for his blood multiple times(ex: Deathstroke, Jason Todd, Damian Wayne etc) and he never feared them due to how out of character it is. Also Frank wastes his men and for some reason Joker thinks he wouldn't do the same to him? Bad writing.

​@@mikecabrera7393there is a reason he feared frank rather than the others. Joker knows them people. However Frank is literally seconds from killing the joker. In a second a person can change from confidence to fear.

@@mikecabrera7393 Someone else in comments pointed out that same men were also shooting at him and that is just how combat is, when Frank caught him he was no longer a threat and did his spiel about how he is just a sick person needing of help to taunt them to kill him and corrupt them. Joker is a character whose goal is to die, he wants to have a symbol of good and heroism to kill him to point out that it is just one bad day away for anyone to become a murderer. Animated series pointed this out perfectly when Joker got scared that some nobody would take his life and leave his legacy as " killed by some rando ". With Castles there was barely any hesitation or humanity, just hatred and bloodlust with nothing to corrupt or twist. His legacy would end up as "victim of punisher", and that is just no one special. Also this was before most of those characters you mentioned were created or widely used, when this came out no anti-hero like Frank or red hood had come after him

No offense but that is an extremely weak argument. Joker doesn't know Deathstroke at all other than his reputation as a killer and yet he didn't have a piss pants reaction when he was targeted by him through a contract he accepted. This comic and you are making it out to be like Joker has never had anyone try to kill him in his entire career as a criminal. The logic just doesn't add up. @@MildarValsik

Nope. Read classic Batman comics of the 80's and 90's, he's been targeted for death on several occasions. The Deathstroke example I mentioned came out before this comic was even published. He was aware of Slade Wilson's reputation as one of the world's most dangerous killers for hire and it did not phase him 2. That makes absolutely no sense. Joker clearly saw Frank kill dozens of his men. The hell does he expect? Joker in the comics is displayed to be a genius on the level of Batman, if anything he'd try to talk his way out of a dangerous situation to get his attacker to drop their guard so he can either escape or go all in for the kill. In this case, if it was clear that he couldn't escape, he'd most likely have tried to pull the latter. This has been displayed many times throughout the comics. In Devils Advocate for instance, which came out in 1996. Two years after this comic but still relevant to this discussion. A convict with a murder count of 80 people, attempted to murder Joker while he was in prison. Joker feigned helplessness and terror to get the inmate to drop his guard, in which he proceeded to beat him to death with his own shoe. 3.This is the comics dude lol not the animated series that severely nerfed his character's capacity for violence and bloodshed for a kids rating. You don't really seem like someone who's read that many Batman comics if you think Joker would quake in fear of someone just because they pointed a gun at him. That has happened to him on countless occasions in gang wars with other villains in Gotham and the many attempts on his life from his long list of enemies he's made throughout his career. @@anomalocaris2593

also he sets traps and will lure villains to him

I think people forget that while batman is to his own level, the Punisher is up there too.

Here is a kicker for you. Frank Castle is one of few, very few, beings to withstand the penance stare from GhostRider. He doesn't view the people he kills as victims. While he doesn't claim what he is doing as good. He doesn't view his actions as evil either. He is a tool of retribution for the actual victims and nothing more. In a way he is actually more just then the systems that are in place to protect. He never claimed to be right, he just doesn't see what he is doing is wrong either.

wrong, he’d be killed and killed quickly.

@@epiccthuluthat’s where your wrong I mean look at red hood he’s literally dc’s punisher and half thugs and goons talk about how’s he’s different from batman and he’s horrifying because actually puts down his enemies permanently

@@epiccthulu reject Batman embrace the Punisher.

@@debasishgoswami9896 no one should embrace punisher, even the creator hates it when he sees cops wearing the logo.

The Punisher would likely end killing innocents and lose his mind in Gotham

I think his primary fear would be being killed by someone that’s not Batman. Like imagine you dedicate your whole life to something and it’s just ended by some murderous tourist

@@Comics.Therapy yeah that's kind of part of it

The punisher gets shit done

​​@@adamantium4797is right it not all talk or chill mode when it comes to the punisher he got one simple goal kill shit there are no prisoners when it comes to this guy

​@@Comics.TherapyI most definitely agree to your comment it make sense getting killed like a regular thug by a out of town vigilante Come on 😂

All of Gotham wouldn't exist by that point

Getting rid of all crime in gotham won't make it a safe place. Gotham's institutions of authority have seen to that.

Punisher could fix literally any city in the world, while batman cant fix his own city.

They would underestimate him because heroes went soft

Punisher gets killed by the competent super powers villains like Clayface, Poison Ivy, Mr Freeze and Bane.

@@luissuazo3684 Still better than letting the Joker live another day so he can kill even ore innocent people

@@luissuazo3684 No he's totally right. The joker has murdered so many innocents that it is NOT killing him that is evil and morally twisted.

batman is the biggest millionarie, uses his money to only catch bad guys and never actually stops them, thearths the actual good guys for actually making the right choice, never ever acually helps the city. No wonder Frank hates Gotham *SO GODAMN MUCH*

For Gotham and Joker? Yeah he's right But not everyone deserve to die

there are probably plenty of people that the punisher killed that could have changed, but i think he is 100% right about the joker, whats weird is batman let him kill multiple thugs who are just basically low iq fatherless kids, but stops punisher from killing the deranged psychopath

I thought the rationale behind letting the Joker live/not killing him is explained pretty well in the DCAMU movie "Under The Red Hood." Batman know that if he gives in to the side of him that's screaming to end this madness permanently (i.e. by killing the Joker), he'll never stop killing the villains simply BECAUSE Joker is the WORST of them. It's like a Domino effect.

Play Arkham Knight video game and you’ll see the repercussions of jokers death that Batman could not stop

@@MrEgofreakIt is, and I can see why he doesn’t do that to most of his villains because once he starts, he won’t stop. However, with him being the worlds greatest detective and him doing the Batman thing for so long, I feel like a part of him should realize that Joker can not be rehabilitated. Try as he might, he put Joker in Arkham (which needs better security, actually) too many times for him to actually come out well. I feel like if Joker did ever cross a line, like say killing Barbara or something equally horrible, Batman wouldn’t stop the person from getting their revenge.

@@Vengeance117Not the best example since Batman was still there to see Joker have his last breath. Joker stabbed him and caused the cure to break but he blames himself because I think the game wants us to believe he dropped the cure on purpose?

Read the white Knight series second book deals with this exact setup

It's fantastic hearing them! it made the video has some vibe.

@@Jar3xe thank you so much!

@@Comics.Therapy You're welcome :)

Yes the sound effect work is AMAZING

I do!!! Thank you (or whoever did it) for putting in the time and effort! Its really appreciated!!! 🥰🥰🥰🙏🙏🙏

No, they would get along pretty well.

@@Multi1Jason kills criminals to protect the innocent. Frank does it because he likes it, because he’s good at it. Kinda like Walter White. Two different things. I’m still not sure they would get along, at least not for long.

@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX The Punisher is definitely a villain then, no other explanation. If he runs out of actual bad people to kill, he'll move on to decent people.

@@Multi1 exactly. Which is why I think Red Hood would turn against Punisher. He’s just too far gone to get any help. Frank Castle is ultimately a sick man who finds pleasure in putting down the guilty. And while Jason Todd definitely has issues of his own due to his past history with the Joker, he chooses to put down the guilty to protect and avenge the innocent so no one would ever have to go through what he went through.

@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX People must not understand he's an actual full blown villain. This is a evidence to support that there are very few things in life that are actually shades of grey.

I don't think Spawn would work, he feeds off evil, Joker is not evil, he is just insane. I know some people theorize he pretends to be crazy and that it's an act, but every time he is exposed to the Lazarus pit or a psychic reads his mind or something he really is just sick in the head.

"Your Angel of Death awaits." "You can't kill me. Heroes have a moral code!" "Who said I was a hero." -Spawn & Joker Interaction, MK11

@@InitialPC he’s both

Even better Deadpool, who is also crazy and unlike Joker actually funny.

​@@InitialPCJoker IS evil, while it is only theory that he pretends to be crazy, it was shown several times that without Batman he is able to act like normal person, he simply chose to hurt others for his own amusment he is the purest evil you can get.

I think for some reason, Batman thinks he can be helped/cured. He’s always in Arkham asylum and mental asylum. I guess he still wants to help him. So he doesn’t want to kill him

This, i absolutely hate this decision in comics. Batman's savior complex aside, it's completely stupid for anyone to listen to batman when he's trying to save joker. I'm not going to blame someone who wants to cling to their moral compass, but i can blame stupid writing decision when nobody finishes joker after bat turned his back.

Thank you, man. That means a lot.

I use to agree with him then i started agreeing with batman

Opposite for me. I used to think the punisher was cool, now I just see him as a sad, broken man who thinks he's above the law.

​@@crunkers_he respects the law, he just does things his way.

@@shadowx8145 You cant have both. Doing things your way is disrespecting the law when you make yourself judge, jury and executioner. What he does is the very definition of making yourself above the law. Who gave Frank Castle the right to decide who lives and who dies? That's for jurys and judges to decide for a reason. So that we can make impartial decisions outside of our own personal bias. We could follow laws and rules or we could just all decide whatever we want to do. But that makes you a criminal just like everyone else. Even Batman admits that he's a criminal vigilanti at the end of the day.

@@crunkers_ Who gives governments the right to decide who lives or dies? The answer is no one its all made up bullshit. In the end the faction capable of the most violence is the one that gets to decide and this includes democracies.

This kills every argument people have about batman not killing Joker. "Well why does batman have to do it? Let the police or someone else off the clown." We tried, and Batman went out of his way to say no.

the real reason is because if they killed the joker they wouldnt be able to use them in other comics

@@notaclass-d1822 Then they need to stop writing situations where he should be killed. We all know he's too valuable for them to kill so just don't write scenarios that should kill him just to force the plot to bend and keep him alive.

This is a DC Marvel crossover. They could kill Joker for this one shot story, I’m sure. Not like they’re building a universe together.

@@deelovesamy both companies probably had to agree not to kill any of their characters during the crossover for it to happen

But he doesn’t stop anyone, he just contributes to more death and destruction

I'd go longer, just because there's so many special circumstance villains like Clayface that he would need Micro's research to help him beat, even then, Micro is more of a hacker than a researcher.

The carnage …

actually it would probably make sure the rogues never bother gotham again. no one would leave the place alive

I agree. I used to defend Batman on this sort of topic but eventually you realize that Batman is a sick narcissistic “hero” who puts his moral code before innocent lives. He’ll let a mass murderer roam free to eventually escape and do it again but hey, he didn’t break his code right?

More to come!

Because batman does.

Batman always protects his enemy like joker but straight up kills/incapacitated his friends from justice league.

​@@mochachino56 he doesn't hold any lethal contingencies, incapacitate is a temporary measure ex. freezing plastic man They would have to be 1. Attacking 2. Darkseid level and 3. In control of themselves before he even considers killing As for why he doesn't, after Jason's death he was going to kill the Joker even though it would've started a war He had no care for any innocents at that moment, that's what he's like, what he tries to avoid