The Queen Has Made A Decision | The Crown (Claire Foy, Pip Torrens, Victoria Hamilton) 

LASCELLES, not LASSELLS.

Oh yes he does!

Pip Torren who plays Tommy Lascelles is priceless,(hope I spelled that correctly, don’t want spelling police to come down on me), I love every scene he’s in. When he says tick, tick, tick….i love it. To me he is a star and he does steal every scene he’s in. I also love when he tells Elizabeth all about her uncle and how her uncle was willing to have them bombed during WW11 and all Edward V111 ‘s dirty doings. He is so deadpan. I LOVE IT. 🥰🥰♥️🇺🇸🇺🇸

I think he is awesome! I love the way he puts people in their places!

​@@marykuga4589Well yes, he is very deadpan. But I would say he has cold, dead, blank eyes more than he is deadpan, lol.😅

That wasn't his line.

Well, once you're in the job - whether you wanted it or not - you might as well take a hefty swing at it. Still counts as meddling though.

Right?? Somehow she, “grew into the job.” lol

Once she got a taste of power, her thirst was unquenchable. A true narcissist. She really thought that she would continue to be the power behind the throne like she was with her husband King George VI. Infuriatingly, Prince Philip also expected to fill that role. Little wonder the two of them butted heads so much.

essentially they bypassed him!

What work?

@@tatata1543 You think that everything that happens at a coronation just falls from the sky?

I don't think the Queen ruled with her own opinions until after her mother died.

@@gerardcollins80 stick to the first three words of that comment

The Queen Mother, the dowager Queen, should’ve kept her mouth shut, period. Shouldn’t even have been present for that meeting. QEII needed to establish authority over all those men and all her mother did was seduce them to do HER bidding. Which failed, btw. “What do you want me to do?” “Exactly as I tell you.” WTF?!

Yeah, true. She wasn't helping the cause that way.

It’s a drama. :-)

@@valeriauk8158 that’s what I’m commenting on. Whether this actually happened this way in real life is doubtful.

Well, the queen mother was a self-centered snob with a chip on her shoulder. Early on, she refused to move out of Buckingham Palace until Churchill told her she had to leave. there was never a queen mother before her - - she made up the title. If my memories correct, she also felt her blood lines were more royal than the actual royal families

Tbh, the more you read and learn about it, it's quite likely that this was indeed the attitude in real life at the beginning of her reign. The Queen Mother was purported to have felt that her own reign was too short and viewed her daughters as nothing more than a continuation of her own. I have a feeling the Queen didn't really rule with her own opinions until after her mother died.

Yeah and she was the Queen before and had experience whereas the new Queen had zero. Her older version of herself would have understood perfectly. Head of state is not a hobby and decisions affect many people. Decisions are not to be taken based on personal whims or self created entitlememt. You might argue the Duke of Norfolk was entitled too but the point is that the establishment had endorsed his role based on precedence.

I think it's not so much that she forgets that Elizabeth is all grownup as it is that she forgets that she herself is no longer Queen.

Mums*

This is just pretend you realise 😂

@@penelopesmith3117 not its all real!!!! LOL.....

She failed. Prince Phillip ended organizing the whole thing.

Tbh though the mother had a point

That’s the difference between you and the Queen in this drama, then. She didn’t need to give her “the mother of all dressing downs”. She did it with just a look.

The mother is just trying to keep order so her daughter's job isn't difficult.

The Queen Mother, like Victoria's mother, was a well-known bitch who should have been shipped off somewhere to stay out of affairs she was only able to be involved in through a turn of fate.

Thank goodness. Imagine CowMilla being in charge of it.

@@JimMac23 not that would have been of any energy to help... they were younger then... not the upper range the King is.

He had a lot less to do, with only a quarter of the attendees, and the Abbey experienced with TV. More security, less construction and carpet.

I am constantly amazed at the number of people who worship the Queen Mum when it's so well documented what an absolute bitch she was.

That book is ahistorical trash

Better things to read than trash from that grifter .

What? Margareth could have married Townsend under the condition of giving up her priviledges as a royal. She made her choice. She did not love him more than her status. The Queen at the time had good reason to not approve this relationship and she had her internal fight with this decision...it wasnt easy.

He was never out of his place. He was amazing and saved the monarchy several times.

People still do that? Sad.

@LifeOfTheParty323 Yep. And maybe to YOU, it is. But obviously not everyone.

@@amjh4lah809 You must not have anything better going on in your life than to worry about being the first comment. Please, go out and make a friends.

@@LifeOfTheParty323 I'm not worried. And have friends.

Looking at the comments, you aren't.

I think they cover some of this later. HM finds out there is a chief daffodil wrangler and a royal purveyor of hats since the 18th century. As an American, I dont really have a dog in this hunt, but it is horrible here having a head of state who is guaranteed to be hated by 50% of the population. Having a head of state carefully isolated from politics sounds so relaxing.

@@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh This, exactly. I think some of our friends in Britain don't always understand what it's like not having someone like the Sovereign to play a ceremonial role. As it is, in our system the President has to wear both hats, and it means a lot more work for them and less time to spend on the business of actually governing. And in a polarized climate, it means that the person addressing the nation in times of crisis or tragedy is the last person half the country wants to hear from. Tradition doesn't make you a laughingstock. The UK isn't a 'third spear carrier' because of the Monarchy, or immigrants, or the EU, or any of the other scapegoats. The UK has declined in importance because that is how history works: nations rise based on certain factors and strengths, then fade when those factors and strengths lessen or become less relevant. There is nothing to be done about it; if anything, be glad that it has been a very favorable fading that has retained your security and 1st world standard of living.

Because they were all part of the old guard. Every one of them played a key role in the monarchy at the time of the abdication, and the abdication almost ended the monarchy. It was only the personal popularity of George VI and Elizabeth, the queen mother, that kept it going. And they dutifully followed orders from those around them knowing full well if they put a foot wrong, that could be the end of it all. None of them were prepared for Elizabeth to become queen when she did. She represented the new generation and they simply weren’t prepared. And truthfully, it wasn’t until the queen mother died that Elizabeth II was able to make a lot of changes.

It _was_ their business, lol. They were her advisers, and as monarch, Elizabeth’s life (and by association, her husband’s) was not her own. But she, of course, had the final say, and they just had to deal with that

Let's say you are a 50 year old man in that office. This would be your 5th monarch. As far as you would be concerned you literally do know her job better than her. It's the same thing with 40 year veterans of the CIA. You would have seen 8 Presidents come and go. Who are they to tell you anything? That is a real thing BTW.

Because Phil and Liz threatened their very existence. Progress is the enemy of fuddy-duddies like this.

@@jayfielding1333 No, you have no clue. The advisors were often right and saved the royals from many f ups. Nobody is perfect though.