The Quest of the Silmaril | Of Beren and Lúthien : Silmarillion Explained - Part 3 of 9

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Good Elves VS Bad Elves! In this video we'll explore one of the absolute BEST Elves in all of Middle-earth as well as two of the absolute WORST. We'll take a look at the Oath of Finrod, the Oath of Fëanor, and the beginning of Beren's Quest to reclaim a Silmaril!
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Beren & Lúthien 101 | Introduction - • Beren and Lúthien 101 ...
Beren & the Outlaws | Part 1 - • Beren & the Outlaws Un...
Lúthien Tinúviel | Part 2 - • Lúthien Tinúviel - Dau...
The Quest of the Silmaril | Part 3 - • The Quest of the Silma...
The Escape of Lúthien | Part 4 - • The Escape of Lúthien ...
Sauron's Island of Werewolves | Part 5 - • Sauron's Island of Wer...
Finrod Felagund Character Breakdown - • Finrod Felagund - Full...
The Wolfhound of Valinor | Part 6 - • The Wolfhound of Valin...
Inside Angband | Part 7 - • Inside Angband | Of Be...
The Hunt of the Wolf | Part 8 - • The Mightiest Wolf to ...
The Doom of Beren & Lúthien | Part 9 - • The Doom of Beren and ...
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@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 2 года назад

Finrod is like a mini fellowship by himself😄.

@bobbysalkeld2634 2 года назад

I never understood Elu Thingol's whole perspective on the worth of a human courter of his elven daughter. He, after all, is an elf who fell in love with a literal demigod.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Yeah that's a very good point.

@Crafty_Spirit 2 года назад

Well from his pov his marriage was an upgrade to his status and Beren for his priced princess seems like a downgrade, he$'s not being a hypocrite but an elitist. Anyway, I think he did not want to give his truly beloved daughter away to anyone, and that seems relatable 😁

@MichaelDG2023 2 года назад

Imagine finding your daughter making out with a homeless dude trespassing in your backyard. Oh, and when you’re about to call the police he tells you he’s prince of the homeless dudes.

@evenstar1608 2 года назад

@@MichaelDG2023 Nice comment. Tell that to the police.

@TrangDB9 2 года назад

Exactly my thought, he was in a similar position towards Melian as Beren to Lúthien.

@darko-man8549 2 года назад

I’ve always wanted, since reading them, is to call out Celegorn and Curùthir basically with “if thou alone had the strength to claim the simarils until the ending of the world, thou alone should have the strength to take them, yet here you cower under the protection of greatness”

@magiv4205 2 года назад

Finrod just has the absolute loveliest vibes

@tomk537 2 года назад

I love this channel - not just summarizing the lore - the context, the connections - subtle ones I have never heard before - the named elf who picks up Finrod’s crown - never heard him called out before - but Finrod - I know he is too perfect a character - but how do you not love him entirely anyway??

@Harpyr1031 2 года назад

Perfect day to listen to this. I have my hot cocoa, knitting and I get to enjoy a snow day while listening to one of my favorite RU-vidrs talk about one of my favorite works of Tolkien.

@sharoncraker8393 2 года назад

This was brilliant. Perfectly brilliant. You really made me feel this. Your skills are unmatched. I am certain Finrod would find you as lovely as you find him. I sure do.

@docopoper 2 года назад

Ok, I can see why you consider him best elf. He seems like someone who would give off very good vibes.

@obZen327 2 года назад

Tolkien smiles warmly in his grave due to the passion, depth, and knowledge you spread of his fictionist masterpieces.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

That's so lovely! Thanks.

@David_Fellner 2 года назад

It's no coincidence that Celegorm and Curufin both have names that start with the letter 'C.' Even their father, the biggest 'C' up to that time, (among the elves at least) had a bad feeling about them.

@MellowMutts270 2 года назад

I love the epic scope of the first age. Every thing is so sweeping and massive and romantic in a way. Amazing video Rainbow Dave!!

@TLC62 2 года назад

Finrod has always been my favorite Elf of any age in Middle-earth which makes me super happy to hear him being appreciated, and so glad that he's such a major character in my favorite First Age story. Of course that means it's incredibly sad to me when he is killed, but at least he dies nobly (of course) and he'll be resurrected in Valinor so it's all good except that he won't meet Beren or Luthien again.

@tarlhall5149 2 года назад

Another beautiful account of the dreamlike story of sorrow and hope that is Luthien, Beren's tale, and their faithful friends Felagund and Huan. Thank you RD.

@Crafty_Spirit 2 года назад

Celegorm and Curufin would fit as characters in the Iliad, where 'real men' would laugh at the idea of fighting for love but encourage bitter hatred, cunning manipulation, and cold steel against the supposed foe of all their people, who snubbed their honour (but really it's just a pretext to pillage and loot)... but honestly, the people of Nargothrond letting their king down are the real disappointment to me personally 😢

@MichaelDG2023 2 года назад

I always thought that strange how disloyal they were. Leaves you to wonder how much authority a ruler actually ever has….

@Crafty_Spirit 2 года назад

@@MichaelDG2023 I think they inherited some of their father's talent to give a rousing speech and then get people to act against their own interests xD Maybe their words even have 'magical power' like songs of power do

@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 2 года назад

Yaaay! Well met RD! Keep up the great work Mellon! Beren survived nan-dungortheb so he isn't afraid of Morgoth...I absolutely love his story. Thanks again RD! Ecthelion!

@32kirby32 2 года назад

Thank you for telling me Huan’s origins. You bring each character to life in my mind 💯

@GaiusMarius65 2 года назад

Regarding Huan and his presence at the side of Celegorm… perhaps it is a case of his original master had instructions from Eru Iluvatar on where Huan needed to be so as to be available when Beren and Luthian needed him. So much in relation to Beren happens in accordance with Iluvatar’s Plan that it isn’t really a stretch to think he may have been guiding things a bit.

@ana.cosmic.humanity Год назад

If "rings of power" brought anything good it was my discovery of this beautiful channel. It is such a peaceful joy to watch your videos and hear your take on these stories. I'm binge watching everything :)

@tolkienuntangled Год назад

Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy them!

@stetsonstarkey 2 года назад

Amazing series. Thanks for your sharing your passion and storytelling with us!

@EdoDoe613 2 года назад

Another stellar video!!! I’m still on the edge of my proverbial seat for what’s next! 😬 Thanks, 🌈 Dave!

@masoodsarfi1169 2 года назад

This guy is epic. Hope you get more recognize

@richardjohansen5371 2 года назад

Absolutely loving everything you do on this channel. Keep it up!

@SkywalkerSamadhi 2 года назад

linna tanwë quetta maer banathfan I love this series!! I love this channel!! I love this guy!! And I am not being even a little bit hasty by saying that Rainbow Dave, or Dave of Many Colors; SongMaker as I choose to call him, is fast becoming one of my favorite Tolkien Channels!!

@sweety-samathedrama3042 2 года назад

The more I watch your videos about the simarilion, the more I question my ability to remember. I once read it but I barely remember a thing! 🙈 I really should read it again.

@tbre 2 года назад

Thank you so much for these videos. I have rarely come across such professionalism mixed with humour and charm. You manage to make us feel like if we are hearing these stories for the first time. Your delivery is very pleasant and the details mentioned make these an invaluable source material. Congratulations. Keep going !

@matts3137 2 года назад

Best Tolkien channel! You ruled them all!

@tonydomo1610 2 года назад

Hey Rainbow Dave! I just want to say thanks for all your amazing work! Your videos have helped me get through a really tough time in life. Things are better now but I still love listening to your channel. The Silmarillion is my favourite work of Tolkien's, and you're definitely doing it justice! Your enthusiasm and attention to detail is unmatched. Keep up the great work and I'm looking forward to the next video! :)

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks so much, I'm really glad you enjoy the videos, and especially this Silmarillion series!

@eoghainohara6624 2 года назад

Fantastic analysis and comparison to the fellowship. Thanks.

@gustavog8683 2 года назад

This Rainbow Dave is indeed a loremaster of great or legendary craftsmanship from ages beyond ours, where great deeds where done!

@charlesmartin1121 2 года назад

Does Beren at any point say to himself--'I am asking too much of this decent fellow (Finrod) in my personal quest to get a jewel (Silmaril) so I can then get a girl (Luthien)?' I have not reread the story in years.

@12classics39 5 месяцев назад

My personal theory is that Beren knows Finrod of all people will understand his love for and need to be with Lúthien in spite of their differences…because Finrod was actually in love with Beren’s mortal ancestor Bëor, who literally walked away from his people permanently to live with Finrod in Nargothrond. So no matter if Beren asks for help or not, Finrod will give it to him, not only because of his oath to Beren’s father, but also his love of Beren’s forefather.

@bearbear3793 Год назад

I absolutely love the channel. The passion you have for the Tolkien Legendarium is just incredible.

@tolkienuntangled Год назад

Thanks!

@SakeBlossom 2 года назад

Every time I watch one of your videos, I can feel your love for Tolkien’s works. Your love and appreciation adds extra sprinkles upon sprinkles of warm feels 🙃 ♥️

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks!

@FantasyNerd-cj7vj 2 года назад

Great video! I love Beren and Luthien’s story and I love hearing the extra historical color that you provide. Thanks!

@georgieleoboy 2 года назад

I'm so excited I'm here so early! Stumbled upon your channel a month ago, and I am hooked!

@justinah7400 2 года назад

Great storytelling! Keep up the good work!

@mikefries7991 2 года назад

I just found this channel and wow, I am so glad I did. I’ve been listening for hours. You knowledge and writing are incredible. Well, done. And thank you for the great videos.

@sacjones7341 2 года назад

🙌🏾 🙌🏾🙌🏾 thank you!

@MrARock001 2 года назад

YES! Another video! So excited!!

@Syntheconductor 2 года назад

I enjoy your content so much! You really take me into the story and it comes alive around me

@MarleyFett Год назад

I never tire of this tale.🤣🤗❤️

@edielungreen 2 года назад

I am… beyond loving this-your work in studying all these writings, in bringing together the stories and retelling them with clarity and reverence and wit-sharing all this with us is an immense joy. I was a young teenager when the Silmarillion came out, and I and all my fellow young Tolkien nerds did our best to get through it, but honestly it’s closer to, say, the old Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology than it is to the narrative of the Lord of the Rings, and I had a scattered understanding of the story at best. It is therefore such a pleasure to listen to you take us through these amazing stories-thank you so much!

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

I'm really glad you're enjoying it!

@Sandbarfight 5 месяцев назад

Best story teller ever!! Thank you brother.

@tolkienuntangled 5 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@ryanwinters7886 2 года назад

Love you videos so much thank you ❤️

@jamesrossi1910 2 года назад

Always eager for more of these videos!

@eric1scooby 2 года назад

Idk why but these first age stories I find so much more emotional than the LOTRs trilogy. The Silmarillion is my favorite book and these videos make me feel so much more connected to these characters! Thank you!

@melkor2650 2 года назад

Aaaaaaah this is so awesome! You do a *really* good job telling this story -- you insert enough context and info. on the characters throughout that I really feel like I'm getting the whole world of it, and not just an isolated story. But at the same time, you also make sure the narrative is so well-integrated and such a part of those characters that I don't feel like I'm getting a history lesson (which is why I could never quite get through the Silmarillion myself). I'm really looking forward to your next video!! :D (this also makes me think -- do you have a Patreon? Of all the Tolkien channels I've seen, yours is the one that seems like it belongs to an actual literary historian/analyst, and I'd love to support you in your work!)

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks so much for your lovely words! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel. At the moment I don't have a Patreon account, because I'm not yet making videos full time, and I don't want to be taking people's money if I'm not uploading videos every week. Thanks for your support though. Hopefully I'll set up Patreon in the relatively near future!

@jojobookish9529 Год назад

"Don't judge the dog by the quality of his master" sounds like an Elvish proverb arising from this very story.

@Frost-EEZ 2 года назад

Eagerly waiting for next one.

@kickbuttme 2 года назад

I love most the beautiful men pictures. * drooling * ok, maybe not most. but i loooove this art so much. props to all the artists.

@cristopherfernandez5765 2 года назад

I have been waiting for this 🙌

@michael198427 2 года назад

Wooooo👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💥💥💥

@josherz7 Год назад

Love love love this. Thank you!

@karlarden6260 2 года назад

I’d buy an audiobook of you reading the Silmarillion. Give audible a call!

@hfcriske 2 года назад

Argh I can't wait to see the next video, too good :)

@thomashylemon9975 2 года назад

Great video as always. Congrats on 20k

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks very much!

@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 2 года назад

I love your videos man.

@_awkwardmf4564 Год назад

Love your content. Really want a series on the children of Hurin though

@tolkienuntangled Год назад

Just a few weeks longer and it will begin 😃

@CryMyName100 Год назад

thank you so much Dave

@artewilliams758 Год назад

Finrod..he is definitely one of the best examples of the Elves that you would expect from them. What an amazing guy..everything good that you would want in a person, you can;t not love and admire the guy/Elf. I could/would definitely live in his kingdom. As for Celegorm and Curufin? what's that saying?..there's no "I" in team, but there is a "C" in Cxxt. And their oath? they will pursue them till the end of time, yet they're cowering away. Also no heart/soul, that they will kill their own kind without a 2nd thought..total, absolute Cxxts!

@josephrowe1740 2 года назад

Me having a bad day: :( Me seeing that there's a new Rainbow Dave video: :)

@ianheins650 Год назад

Nice work dude

@artewilliams758 Год назад

By acting in haste, thinking he has set the "impossible quest", thinking he'll just turn it down, it backfires BIG TIME and now changes/will change things forever. So, after Melia speaks to him quietly and explaining what he has just done (without 2nd thought), he (Thingol) must finally realise/think "Fxxk, what have I done? And that the path/s of fate are now set and there is no way back, especially the part about the Silmaril attatching him and his people now, to the doom on Mandos.

@mintkit1 Год назад

I‘ve watched this video multiple times already (it‘s just that good) but this is the first time Galadriel‘s comment about Finrod not having a wife jumped out at me. Yes it leaves him unfettered for the oath he makes in the future. But I think there‘s a more personal reason. He did after all leave the love of his life behind in Valinor. And after his reincarnation he was free to be with her again, unfettered by other bonds of marriage (the concept of divorce and remarriage is almost entirely foreign to elves which is why it was so shocking when Finwe did just that).

@pepetrueno5916 2 года назад

You have me hook up with this Beren guy! Thanks a lot for this videos! Btw what does nevaeh melanie means?

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Navaer mellyn nin means 'farewell my friends'

@ThunderhawkVeronicaLazerwolf Год назад

Menegroth vs Nargothrond. Did the Elves know about the coming of Men?? I guess the Valar could have told them at any point, but it seems noteworthy that a race knew of the creation of another race. It emphasizes the lack of evolution? I guess. It's a neat thought! Thanks, Dave!!

@Doe808eoD 2 года назад

Dave can you tell me what you’re saying at the beginning and end of the videos in elvish?

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Yeah, I say Mae g'ovannen mellyn nin a meneg suilaid - which means well met my friends and a thousand greetings. At the end I say Navaer mellyn nin - which means farewell my friends.

@Doe808eoD 2 года назад

@@tolkienuntangled wonderful!! I am so looking forward to the next video in this series, someday I’ll tell my kids this story at bed time :)

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

@@Doe808eoD that's so awesome!

@zubinmetalfan Год назад

That story always seems very strange to me. I get the oath and the bond between the house of Beor and Barahir and Finrod, but this guy Beren, comes along and wants to go get a silmaril out of Morgoths crown because he has a crush. I don't know... I think Finrod should have told him to get himself back into proportion and shut up. You don't provoke an oath just because you got a crush on someone. And besides, you said you'll get a silmaril, than get it yourself, without getting others into trouble on your behalf. This all thing seems weird

@austinling7318 2 года назад

Clearly feanor and his ilk have not looked into the jewelry market. Don't they know lab made gems go for way less? Smh

@12classics39 5 месяцев назад

If Finrod and Beren were talking privately about Beren’s quest for the Silmaril, how did Celegorm and Curufin even find out that a Silmaril was involved in this situation? I highly doubt Finrod would be stupid enough to tell them.

@MogulMogul 9 месяцев назад

Huan doesnt have that dawg in him he is the dawg people have in them

@darko-man8549 2 года назад

Love the Warhammer wood elf art

@alexanderwerner9294 Год назад

" technically Finrod is just the chief prince of the youngest line of the Noldor." Finrod is literally a king, and neither Fingon being High King nor him only being of the third house of the Noldor changes that. He is consistently referred to as king throughout the silmarillion and the other writings. He wears a crown, has a throne, and Nargothrond is consistently called a kingdom. If Fingon is High King of the Noldor that implies that the Noldor have other kings. Anyways, I just find it odd that you seemingly consider Finrod to not really be a king when he most certainly is the King of Nargothrond and the king of its people such as Edrahil. And not just an over-lord to them. Same goes for Turgon. And now I'm curious to know if you'd have the same view on Turgon.

@jeremydouglas1763 Год назад

Yes it is very surprsing that the awful Celegorm was the *personal friend of Orome for many years in Valinor*. Maybe they just talked about hunting a lot. Sport buddies.

@mwayne8032 2 года назад

I was thinking. Couldn't Beren have gotten the Silmaril, presented as a token of proof to Thingol, then return it to Celegorn and Cuhafin? (forgive my spelling of the Elf prices)

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thingol would never give up the Silmaril to anyone. Let alone the two worst sons of Feanor.

@mwayne8032 2 года назад

@@tolkienuntangled Oh ok. I never thot of that. He don't like the two younger sons cuz of the kin-killin, and they did it for the silmarils, so I can see why he wouldn't go for that. But even then, Beren could have said, "Peace out." Let them duke it out and he gets his girl.....NO????? Maybe????

@jwb_666 2 года назад

Gud vid gib more

@itayshorek6872 2 года назад

soooo good

@suncali3340 2 года назад

Hey Dave, throw out two vids a week. Min 30min each. ;)

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

One day I will reach that goal!

@dolorusedd2586 7 дней назад

15:51 To be fair to Curufin, how many of us are deserving of any dogs wonderfulness, let alone one from the Blessed Realm? answer: none of us

@markwarner5554 2 года назад

The best boy in all of middle earth...omg. Huan is the best.

@sarahgould5435 Год назад

28:30 "Fingon is the high king of the Noldor and Elu Thingol is the high king of the Sindar. Technically, Finrod is just the chief prince of the youngest line of Noldorin princes..." Me: ....😶 ....I mean...isn't he the eldest son of the High King of all the Eldar at this point? (I'm sorry, I was born with terminal smart☆ss and I've been told it can't be removed. It's gotten so bad that I even enjoy Dad jokes.)

@Samael16661 2 года назад

By the Valar, it truly seems to me that Gandalf trusted in Hobbit friendship, dwarves and men during the quest of the ring just to keep these imbalanced Elven Lords out of the game. If Tolkien makes anything clear is that he thinks that power corrupts, and that the simple life is preferable to being an Elven Lord who can raft great things and then do terrible things to get them back.

@rogersmith3657 2 года назад

Excellent perspective on the Elves---since I first started reading Tolkien (50+ years ago), I've had only qualified admiration for them; they have some wonderful qualities to be sure, but often seem like snobby elitists just under the surface, plus (as is beautifully illustrated in all of Dave's videos) can be just the most colossally awful beings out there. Quality of heart is far more impressive than magical abilities no matter how beautiful, and yes---the more "lowly" lines of hobbits, dwarves, and men end up outlasting the Elves.

@countplokoon 2 года назад

Celebrimboar look like Arnold swazhneggar

@synoptic4753 Год назад

So Finrod was suicidal...

@martinecomerciaser1811 2 года назад

This channel is what I’m going to watch instead of the woke shit Amazon is doing.

@charlesmartin1121 2 года назад

This is really interesting. I comment on this channel regularly. I usually try to add a thought provoking remark (not always successfully). Regardless I would never solicit for a 'like' from the content creator on this or any channel. However, when just about every other comment on these videos receives a 'like' from said creator, it is a clear indication my participation is not appreciated. This site has some interesting content, but blatant disrespect cannot be ignored or tolerated. UNSUBSCRIBE.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

I'm sorry that you don't feel appreciated. I've never Intentionally disrespected any commenter on this channel. The truth is there are three types of comments. Single sentence compliments that are very easy to respond to with a simple like, easy to answer questions that I endevour to respond to, and more open ended thoughts that would take a prohibitively long time to respond to fully considering how many comments there are. Yours typically fall in the third category. I'm sorry that most of your comments have fallen through the cracks, but I promise it's nothing personal.

@charlesmartin1121 2 года назад

@@tolkienuntangled I apologize for the misunderstanding. Honestly I do not believe it is your responsibility to like or reply to anyone's comments. I understand why you might feel compelled to do so, but I never leave a comment with the expectation that the content creator is going to reply, let alone carry on a debate. That said, what I had noticed, in the comment sections of the last few videos, was you had 'liked' virtually all the comments except mine. Naturally I drew a conclusion. I appreciate your reply concerning this matter, and look forward to enjoying your future videos.