A country paying for non-citizens' non-essential medical bills is nuts when the same country isn't covering many of its own citizens' medical expenses for actually life-threatening conditions.
@@tremontefr5617 I think you overlooked the part about NON-essential (gender re-assignment) and BILLs. Sure, hospitals may be required to provide emergency care but they don't do it for free. They will attempt to bankrupt you first if you don't have sufficient insurance coverage.
@@mholland9330 I thought some of the rambling was good, and from Kamala's face, she agreed. Sometimes, you just gotta let people keep digging, not knowing how awful this is making them look.
So you got your way with Biden stepping down. But now you don't like Harris. It's like, you are making yourself pretty obvious who you want to win. The question now is, why do YOU want Trump to win so badly? Why have you decided to go right-wing for?
Just goes to show, with the right amount of money, a once considered fairly balanced channel and now be skewed towards a now one-sided affair....THE YOUNG TRUMPERS, ...TYT
Thats fine, but then as a politician just admit that you have a change in policy and provide an explanation for why you changed your mind. Why is this too much to ask for?
Cenk, I agree with you on a lot but sorry, gender IS what it is at birth. The mind being more complex than something as simple as this doesn't really have anything to do with it. The mind can be as complex as it wants but the body is what it is.
Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls, and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours, and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl, or boy, as well as relationships with each other (WHO). It's different for Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls, and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours, and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl, or boy, as well as relationships with each other(WHO). Since Gender is a societal construct, it means different stuff for different people depending on one's culture it can be either be associated with sex and say they're only two Genders or you can say that it's a spectrum. But you can't force ones views on the other since like I said it's a social construct we created it for our own ease like Gender roles. Sex how ever are only two and you can't change that even with surgery since it's on a dna level your either female or male or some times in between due to a chromosomal abnormality. You either believe in science or you don't.
@ibrahimrashied9707 😂😂 and therein lies the entire problem with what you *think*. You take "gender" and morph it's meaning. Gender is the sex of a male or female. That's all. Not this long drawn out excuse for why you buy into this idea of "social construct". Over complicating something extremely simple. Period.
To be fair, times changed and the policies have to reflect whatever the current climate or current issues we're dealing with. 2019 waa different than today.
Im confused why there's a whole segment on her 2019 views especially when there's been no indication of her still believing that?? like genuinely confused
Those gender-altering surgeries must be those stories I've heard on NPR about migrants getting their uteruses removed ~ with NO consent. It happened in the south. 😔
"Taxpayer funded transgender surgeries on detained migrants" really isnt an extreme position, that's just framed in an inflammatory way. Its really just an overlap of 3 issues Cenk already believes: 1. Gender affirming treatment is life-saving healthcare 2. Healthcare is a human right and should be publicly financed 3. Detained people cannot be denied medical treatment If you believe all 3 of these things, congrats! You agree with taxpayer funded transgender surgery for detained migrants! Which, by the way, has literally never happened and never will even if it were legalized. US citizens cant get gender reassignment surgery on demand. They have to have a gender dysphoria diagnosis and be on hormones for years first. Please spare us with that "im fine with them getting that but we shouldn't have to pay for it!" nonsense. If this did exist and did happen, it would be a matter of a fraction of a cent tax increases annually
Gender affirming treatment being "life-saving healthcare" is objectively false. Nobody should be paying a penny for illegal immigrants and nobody should be paying a penny for anybody's transgender surgery. Pretty simple.
SIMPLE PRINCIPLE OF ELECTIONEERING: Promise them ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. Once elected, hit the ESCAPE BUTTON and get back to Business As Usual. BOTH candidates are BOUGHT and SOLD. Nothing new but, this time around, it has gotten difficult to tell the difference between The GOOD, The BAD and THE DOWNRIGHT UGLY. VOTE your CONSCIENCE? Rare COMMODITY these days.
Cenk you are no fighter for LGBTQ rights!! Saying, "lets only fight for popular rights so we can win elections" is not fighting for LGBTQ rights its just selfish!!!
I need you to tell me something about me. I’m for allowing sex change for adults. I’m for allowing non-discrimination protections. I’m for allowing puberty blockers and hormones for minors. I’m for allowing people to change their sex on official documents. I don’t care what sports decide to do with transgender athletes. I’m NOT for surgery for minors. I’m NOT for taxpayer funded surgery for illegal immigrants. Am I pro-LGBT or anti-LGBT?
@@e.j.406 Allowing s ex changes for anyone is awful. "Doctors" shouldn't be like Dr. Frankenstein. Allowing puberty blockers and hormones to minors is d isgusting
Cenk and anna are right the old bernie was popular because he was socially centrist and economically populist. His vuew of thinking was that you should earn money yourself and hence against ubi but was in favour government jobs program sinces it government responsibility to provide jobs.his immigration views were pragmatic yes you should have more legal immigration but immigration should include the people that country needs their expertise their money. He focused on public college's, trade schools, health care, increasing minimum wage affordable child care. But people like aoc ruined it by bringing idiotic stuff like defunding Ice. Even on climate change significant changes could have been had been not for these so called leftist who against nuclear power. People need to understand you cant force others to change their habit ,views or way living you have to incentivise them. You want people to use electric car make cheaper electric cars compared to gas powered car. Dont force people to buy those cars by banning gas cars. You want to end fossil fuels invest in nuclear power , provide funding for nuclear fusion research, funding for research for how to power different industries by alternate sources but instead we are disscussing weather to ban fossil fuels entirely. No normal individual wants to live in the 1500s again in order to save the planet. Same stuff for trasngender issue . I agree they should be given the same rights as the rest and those rights are right to vote , right to own a gun , freedom of speech acess to education and affirdable health care nothing more noth8ng less. People shouldnt be forced to believe in what others believe.
Uh Oh, better not point out how inconsistent Establishment Female Candidate (TM)'s voting record was. "Uh, excuse me sweetie, achtually even though it says she voted this way she didnt"
This is what TYT posts during the presidential debate? A video attacking Harris..again. I'll be glad when this channel finishes it's decent to the bottom.
Another thing; if a trans gender migrant wanted surgery, they wouldn't get it like next week. It would start with therapy- which I am cool with. I am sure many migrants need therapy. And before we get hung up on cost- HOW much are the migrants who are working paying into our systems that don't benefit them, like SocSec? I personally knew some one who was a legal migrant, spent 19 years paying ont a system that he got no benefit out of until he was finally naturalized as an American citizen- from Denmark. He dropped his Denmark citizenship for the US. He got barely anything for the years of work he did here
@@Cucumberflavoredmustard I can only think if this ever made it to a bill, it would be as a disposable bargaining chip, since it's ludicrous. I say we worry about something more important... anything else.
Thats not what is going to happen. These people are gonna have a parasitic relationship with the country they migrate to. They aren't going to make things better
Why don't we help the economies of the countries south of our border? Their economies would flourish, the people wouldn't feel a need to flood across our southern border, and we would have strong allies that could strengthen our military position. We need more countries to be our partners, not our footstools.
@@ericpmoss That's ironic, since it actually allowed the Mexican economy to grow exponentially, turning Mexico into the largest trading partner with the US.
@@MattBuild4 It's easy to say it's out of our control when we don't try. It's always about money, and dictators get into power because they share the wealth with the right people. It doesn't take much to set up a democracy when the people want it.
@@coachtaewherbalife8817 Im not speaking in the matter of will, the US does not have the legal jurisdiction to prevent immigrants entering the southern borders of mexico or prevent trafficking of immigrants by mexican citizens into the country of mexico. "It doesnt take much to set up a democracy when the people want it" Yeah so youre talking about creating a political framework to your liking in a foreign nation. Man clearly thats never gone wrong....... oh wait Afghanistan, Cuba, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Serbia, Columbia, Venezula, Ecuador, Honduras, China, Japan, basically any African nation. We are not the world police and more times than not trying to install a system of government and control in a foreign nation has led to thousans if not millions of deaths and future problems that were not previously considered.
Asylum is legal its doesnt matter how you make it here you cross the border you are safe! Same with crossing from North Korea into South Korea! Change the law if you dont like it!
Asylum seekers are also not supposed to take any government subsidies yet that law isn’t enforced. Financial hardship isn’t legal reason for asylum. And if asylum seekers lie about there reason, they should be prosecuted and fined
No, Cenk. We should fund the healthcare for everyone that is in the USA. Full stop. Yes, that includes illegal immigrants. Yes, that includes sexual reassignment surgery. Yes, that includes felons. Yes, it includes all combinations of those, too. If you don't agree, then never say you agree with universal healthcare, because you don't.
I love where your heart is, but let's work on getting non-elective surgeries and other life-saving treatments for US citizens first, ok? Adding that to our list of demands is going to be a poison pill for the whole endeavor. Be practical.
@@craitOf course it did. A lot of things led up to the Emancipation Proclamation and do you think after all the slave plantations were just like "aw shucks, guess I'll give up my slaves now" It took years and a lot of hard work after before there was actual freedom. Besides you can't compare everything to the biggest factor in a civil war when talking about owning people. Most all or nothings there won't be a civil war. You'll simply get nothing. Besides the end result it rarely different. It takes multiple steps for big things to happen. It's an easier sell one step at a time. It's still working towards the same goal M4A would be fought in the courts for 40 years and not after implementing but before . Private medicine is a 2 trillion dollar industry, you think it's just going to shut down, even if we had the votes, which we dont? Look how long Obamacare was fought in the courts It makes no sense not to keep improving where you can
@@sdarcy274 The issue is that Erin Burnett didn't challenge the claim from the guy she was talking to. He says that's how Harris responded to a questionnaire in 2019. Is that really what Harris said? How was it worded? It *might* be true, and it might be totally misreading and putting words in her mouth., or something in between.
@@mikeg2306 that's not a specific right. You can't make nor legislate respect, the only respect that truly matters is self-respect, if trans people respect themselves then it shouldn't matter if other people don't respect them.
Like Crazy Bernie said, She's doing whatever it takes to get elected. Then she will go back to her radical, insane, Putin type, Marxist agenda to destroy America. If you think the last 4yrs have been bad, give her another 4 & you will wish, even beg to have our country back with conservative leadership that works for all Americans. Why should taxpayers be spending $500B or more to have "illegals" be able to have sex change surgeries when we can't take care of our own citizens. That alone should tell all you LOW-IQ voters who she cares about. She doesn't give a damn about you.
Changing positions is good. But literally taking the most extreme left position on every controversial issue in 2019 and flipping back to the sensible centrist position on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE is hugely suspect. People expect people to change positions. No one expects this many changes in such a short period of time. And it reeks of just finding the poll tested message and adopting that as your position for literally every issue: We want to know is Kamala a progressive or centrist and literally no one knows
@@linusa2996 All of the above. That's how Marxism and communism work. She's a Chinese asset. There's a reason she picked Walz, who taught overseas in China and came back a communist sympathizer, over anybody people expected. China is going for it now that she's the nominee.
It was not “cooler” to be progressive in 2019. It’s “cooler” to be more progressive still. Look at the number of kids and teens who are trans or non binary. Staggering. I’ve never heard her come out against sex change operations for illegal immigrants. This whole trans issue is why I’m independent, and doesn’t help with who the vp pick is
@@Spiral.Dynamics don't tell Anna and Cenk that... this is a losing battle ... no need to investigate this issue. We should assume the country that won't shell out 5 bucks save the life of a cancer patient will go full force on paying for a sex change operation for an illegal immigrant
@@Spiral.Dynamicsa country outlawing transitioning isn’t a recognized asylum claim. If that don’t like their countries policies they should fight for their rights in their country or immigrate legally
I’m guessing this is more about a person who is actually has ongoing gender affirming care or was in transition. They might just be in progress or with young people they’d need their treatment or it’s cause other health issues. I’m guessing they wouldn’t have insurance. They may have had the care previous of needing to flee or botched procedure too. I can see why it needs to be available for the very very few that’d have this issue. Some countries they flee won’t allow them and risk them lives. If you just say the want to have free gender affirming care which can mean varying things too. They also spoke of free transitions for migrants. Then it sounds like a losing issue. No one in the states get it free but it is a process they are going through and if you detain them you have taken their ability to seek the care or pay for it. I do think continuing the care and treatment should be available but with the normal bill that anyone would have. I’m not sure if migrants use their insurance from elsewhere or have to somehow obtain that in a country they flea or in the states. Maybe migrants need insurance and not paid medical. Though some migrants would have no or little money so just normal healthcare would be hard to obtain so I can get why we would need to provide some healthcare to migrants. They may have disorders, medical issues, medicines, need screened etc. So yes in some ways I can see why Harris would say she supports it. We need to see all people not just the ones in our country with our skin tone. They are human and deserve compassion
Excusing the 2020 policies as positions she doesn't really hold. Acting like the crazier 2024 policies such as taxing unrealised gains, don't exist. I respect that they actually got into the weeds, but either you're arguing that she doesn't have real policy positions, or you're stating that her positions have gotten more reasonable while everyone else can see that they've gotten more extreme. It's also a little difficult to pretend that her policies on immigration were just lip service when they align with her party's most unpopular actions.
_Vote this way in November:_ *1 of 2. This is how you always need to vote-* We must fully criticize and _always vote_ *against* (& less authoritarian than) both the Republican *and* Democratic Parties- including *Tim Walz, Kamala Harris,* AOC, all of the squad, Bernie Sanders, Edward Markey, Mark Pocan, the justice democrats, & all other democrats. Vote in every single election- at all levels. And also _endorse or anti-endorse,_ in all elections you can, for outside your voting jurisdiction. For _all_ public positions. And this same strategy applies against the one or more party-monopolies in _all_ countries worldwide. Real progressives will never be Democratic Members or Democratic loyalists. Never vote for _any_ Republican member or loyalist either. If no candidates for a position fit that bill: -Where _write-ins_ are permissible, always write-in an anti-authoritarian person; -Where write-ins aren’t permissible, always vote uncommitted or leave the ballot blank. This will continuously reduce the power of _all_ authoritarian parties in the party monopolies: Until our task is complete. Repeat strategy for all new authoritarian parties that emerge. _Vote this way in November:_ *2 of 2. This is how you always need to vote-* We must fully criticize and _always vote_ *against* (& less authoritarian than) both the Democratic *and* Republican Parties- including *Trump,* RFK Jr., Vivek Ramaswamy, Rand Paul (He’s _no_ Ron Paul), Thomas Massie, Warren Davidson, Ron Johnson, and all other Republicans. Vote in every single election- at all levels. And also _endorse or anti-endorse,_ in all elections you can, for outside your voting jurisdiction. For _all_ public positions. And this same strategy applies against the same one or more party-monopolies in _all_ countries worldwide. Real libertarians will never be Republicans or Republican loyalists. Never vote for _any_ Democratic member or loyalist either. If no candidates for a position fit that bill: -Where _write-ins_ are permissible, always write-in an anti-authoritarian person; -Where write-ins aren’t permissible, always vote uncommitted or leave the ballot blank. This will continuously reduce the power of _all_ authoritarian parties in the party monopolies: Until our task is complete. Repeat strategy for all new authoritarian parties that emerge.
Cenk at 13:00 is sounding like Dave Chappelle in his comedy routine talking about how the car with L, G, B, and T passengers was getting delayed from it destination by a very rowdy T. He wasn't wrong about that, IMO.
There are nations that provide U.S. Americans with health care and education the latter could not afford at home. That largesse does not necessarily extend to _undocumented_ foreign visitors, though. However, what they provide even for prisoners may be from the American perspective enviable. A captor incurs responsibility for the welfare of captives. It’s absurd to claim that prisoners are “free to” provide for themselves when deprivation of that freedom defines their status! What’s reckoned not an essential entitlement for literal prisoners is hence also not respected as a right of relatively free labor, citizens or not. There’s a straw man in making a bugbear of public spending, which is a fraction of the tax on labor that capital takes _before_ even giving gross wages. It’s intended - at least by the better informed setting the top-down pattern of propaganda - as a scapegoat distraction from the profounder problem of the capitalist system itself.
What kinds of common mental health care are rejected by the prison system? What is the most expensive mental health care that is enjoyed by prisoners? Do we just hate these people and the way they exist or live, is this why we don't want to give this care, or is it honestly really too expensive? How many people want this care?
Harris has defended her flip flopping wrong. If there is anything Trump has taught to political aspirants it's to lean into perceived weaknesses and double down. Harris should short and succinct say she is changing her positions, moving to the centre, into order to best deliver most Americans want. When asked "did you change your position?" she should reply "I absolutely changed my position"
Given how much of illegal immigration does not entail crossing the border illegally, but overstaying a visa, something like ICE is needed if you’re going to do more than nibble at the edge of the phenomenon as Border Patrol does. Meanwhile, though, ICE has quickly built a reputation for bad behavior. Denial of funds that it’s misusing can be an incentive for correction. (It’s probably not sufficient incentive without institutional leadership motivated by additional considerations.)
What _is_ at the present time is a different question from what _ought to be._ That gender is determined by sex at birth is in the practical, customary sense as true as it once was in the USA that chattel slavery or freedom was determined by ‘race’ at birth.
The wording in poll that you put up on the gender reassignment issue is bad. There's a difference between asking if the government should do it or if it makes political sense to do it. Those are different questions, and the even the question of should can be broken down further. People who vote yes on the should question are coming at it from a moral/ethical standpoint. Their thought will be that all people in the US should have healthcare, that gender reassignment is healthcare, and that translates to yes. Some of those yes voters will vote no if it's framed as a political strategy question.
As a transgender person, I’m against tax-payer money going toward gender reassignment surgeries for transgender detainees. BUT hell yes we should keep them medicated with the doses of HRT they were on before. Unless we plan on detaining them for so long that the cost of HRT reaches the cost of gender reassignment surgery. And still they’ll need a steady supply of hrt.
People really should Google or grab a dictionary and read what "liberal" really means by definition. Anyone using the term loosely or out of context is a professional BS artist or a dummy.
I honestly don't mind if that became policies if, and only if, we do the same for American citizens, and that we do all the things that Americans need, ie medicare for all, a living wage, money out of politics, etc. That said do I think Kamala is serious about the gender transition surgeries? No, not in the slightest, if she makes any move towards that beyond rhetoric I'd be shocked, and I'm honestly surprised she's putting out that rhetoric.
Cenk and Ana acting like that was the only proposal she made. She was talking about Medicare for all, your (and my) favorite thing, and this would certainly fall in that category. This is one of many reasons I stopped paying for tyt. They are throwing trans people under the bus in order to appeal to more people. It’s disgusting and they used to be better than this. I remember them leading the way on gay rights, not saying oh look at the polling it’s a terrible idea to support this. Usually people grow. Cenk and Ana have devolved.
I know. I'm amazed by it. TYT has gotten especially bad in the last few months, in my opinion. Now they're throwing immigrants under the bus too. They're promising to round 16 million people up starting day one. And you can't ship them all out at once so you gotta put them in camps, I guess. It's gross that TYT is spurring this rhetoric on at the worst possible time, even though crime is down....
The world needs this election over, we need to stay focused and stop all kind of conflicts and confrontation. life is too short to keep fighting over senseless. At the end, Kamala and Tim will win and DT will keep being a trillionaire, end of story.
I want the gov't to pay for my new truck. I need that in order to make me feel better about myself. who out there wants their tax dollars going to that?? anybody like that idea? honestly how can anyone be an independent voter when you will ultimately be forced to vote for a blue or red candidate?! sure you could waste your vote on a third party candidate, but why?
These too are becoming slippery. Either you stand with LGBT or you don't. Political expediency is not what the moral high ground of liberals is built upon.
As a bisexual guy I'm telling you you're wrong. It's not that simple. I don't like corporate America co opting LGBT social issues and I don't agree with the government paying for gender transition surgeries when i have to wait 6 months to get an MRI at the veterans hospital because funding at the VA is a joke
12:53 - slow down, fella. Yeah, I get that _gender and sex aren't the same thing._ What LGBTQ+ forgets is that "what's on the inside" is not nearly as sacred as what you'd like to believe. I know many transgenders... over the internet. If I were to talk to them in person, I'd have to "not believe my lying eyes" in order to not offend them. When a normal guy says he's "looking for a woman," he doesn't mean "just the personality." This has nothing to do with whether or not we "allow you to exist," regardless of how charmed the trans view on transness is.
It's not whether or not you "exist." It's that your self-evaluation is largely immaterial. The same can be said of the straight man (or cis woman) - (s)he just has fewer detractors.
@@crait no its not. its a trend. i live in an area where LGBT is free and celebrated for decades. we never had so many ppl claiming this need for transition until a few years ago. Its encouraged and suggested these days. Yes there are some sincere ones but not the numbers we see today.
@@crait and its cosmetic, not medical in any sense. nothing is reassigned but simply made to look a certain way. I could be very unattractive and it cause me severe emotional pain. that doesn't mean others should pay to improve my appearance to prevent my sadness.
Whoa Cenk. You've been a trans rights backer all this time? You sound a lot like trump with "the blacks". What do you have to say to the people who quit?
They are liars ? U know cenk isn't a politician right ? We know trump is a liar because he says one thing and does the other. Cenk s job is just talking. From what I see , what he says is the same.yea he thinks using the word " birthing person " is silly but what does that have to do with actual trans rights? It's ok to disagree on that as long as u respect people gender ,sexuality and transition
@@komlat253 Don't tell me. Tell Cenk. I didn't have a bunch of trans people quit my news organization. *Maybe you didn't know that Cenk ran for congress and announced for president. So he is a politician. 😉
