@@RandomSaiyanManof course it’s real , people genuinely get more excited and happy when talking to an attractive person and will almost always treat them better
@@RandomSaiyanMan it's not because it's harder for them to keep long term relationships since they used to get it very easy and have as many relationships as possible. And another side of a coin is that their perfection seen by curtain people with time starts to crumble because in reality aint Nobody perfect. And their sides of inperfection is making for them harder to keep relationships than for those 3 to 5s, who has that space for maneuvers to make people dependent of them. Imagine short examples like 2pac and Eazy-E that are 3s. It's vice versa about privilege then you know direction. These above 5s Most of them have deep inside depression since they know its all about their 1sr impression and thats all.
Especially in the West. But it does come with it's down sides. especially in your teen years.particularly the stereotypes and perceptions from male peers.
Lost all credibility when you put Brandon Fraser as a 5 and then proceeded to put Prince Harry and the Office guy as a 6. Brandon Fraser in his prime was voted sexiest man alive by People's magazine.
True however outside of cosmetic surgery don't confuse Sexual Market Value ( Raw Physical Attractiveness ) with Resource or Simp Market Value with the latter being an asymmetrical transfer of resources. Also there's Social Market Value ( Status, Charisma, and Voice.) as well.
Damn bro my job and sleep deprivation the past 5 years had me go from a solid 8 down to like a 6 😂😂😂 but this video is very true. I never realized from like 20-23 why I was playing life on easy mode, and it’s so accurate people will treat you good often just because of looks. It sounds shallow, but regardless of gender or age people on average tend to just not want to look at “less good looking people”. I think this is why many new series are flopping in which they cast very run of the mill average faced people. It’s not that their ugly, it’s just subconsciously not super desirable to audiences
Very very interesting take on this topic. Your “you know it when you see it” description of 7s is fantastic, and spot on. Both sexes acknowledge it’s rare; maybe the 7s aren’t getting modeling contracts handed to them, but when you see him - you know.
@@GrandChallenger-bd8yfOn a bell curve scale normal distribution 7 is pretty good and not too rare, the Reddit true rate scale a 7/10 is like 1 in 1000
My biggest contention with this list is the assumption that an 8/10 and above is automatically going to want to be a famous Hollywood actor. Even among the more attractive, it isn't rare to value privacy and anonymity.
Normally, I just watch this type of content for entertainment purposes. But for the first time, I actually agree with someone else's scale. I think you explained it well and clearly. And I think you are pretty spot on
@@rokiejoe8452 ive seen men far more attractive on the street facially ...body wise yeah He's up there but otherwise ...he is kinda an avarage joe ....im nigerian too so
Always thought I was like 7-8 in my 20’s young, fit, working on stem companies and having good financial structure early on in my life… but time passed and wow I definitely need to get back on track physically if I wanted to up my value out there! Thanks for the insight!
Extremely good looking men such as the young *Marlon Brando, Francesco Cura, Alain Delon,* or the young *Brad Pitt* are definitely and universally considered to be _fully 10._
This video is way more accurate than the others I’ve seen where dudes are throwing in random phenotypes into ratings where they see fit. I like how each rating is drastically better than the last.
@@Forbiddenqo8pv for example this RU-vidr “ascended” made a looks scale and it made 0 sense because he put the same phenotypes (genetics) at a 6 and guys with the same phenotype at 9, like Ben affleck at 6 and Chico at 9. It doesn’t make sense because they are the same in terms of features
It doesn’t work like this for men. Pure facial structure etc. is really not that important for most women. The 7s on your list will out pull the 9s and 10s most of the time. Women care much more about your status, wealth, and swagger.
Nice scale, however, I always think that sorting rates by factors such as: female attention, likelihood to succeed, social perception, and in general every aspect that is somewhat into the social sphere of the individual, can be misleading to some degree. Cause while of course, the better looking you are, the more you’ll likely enhance your social life and perception. But here I said “likely” since exceptions are still widely present, especially in the upper ranks of most looks scales. To put my opinion into a more practical example, a guy who may be a 6 or so facially (cute, definitely not ugly but not extremely eye catching either) will have a very proficient social and romantic life, so if he happen to stumble on what’s the assumed treatment a person in a certain position on a certain looks scale, he may see himself more into how 8s or above are supposedly treated, therefore may enter a delusional cycle without even knowing. And while it’s still quite unclear on how to rate or consider certain facial features and proportions, I still believe that it’s way better than trying to oversimplify a stigmatized experience for supposedly a certain group of people. Now I don’t want to get misunderstood here, I firmly believe, after a fair share of analysis, to be an 8/10 or so facially (will describe myself throughout if someone’s ask), and I definitely don’t relate to a sub5 or a conventionally unattractive guy, but that doesn’t mean my life has to be a cakewalk, and if it is not, then I’m overrating myself. I dated little since i’m still young but definitely got mostly positive feedback and attentions so far. But definitely not to some absurd extreme like that everyone throws themselves at me or gets mesmerized by my beauty or some shit like that, for the most part I believe my life to be fairly regular. Maybe this whole point I made was intended already, but I do not fully think so. I can agree on the most obvious generalizations regarding treatment based off of looks, but the rest from my experiences is just a grey mixture that is dependent on many factors besides of looks, such as status, wealth, social prowess and character, mental illnesses, different personalities, the whole context and life of the single individual, and it goes on. Hope I made my point pass through comprehensively, so let me know if further clearance is needed or if I may get more in depth regarding a certain topic I mentioned.
the distribution for faces is ~15% of people are 7 or above, it's fairly normally distributed, 8's are like, 3% or so, 9's+ are like under a percent, basically 7's are reasonably common, both the guy and girl distribution is normal and has these same ratios
@@rotm4447 go get a big data set of faces and train a neural network and find out that you're confusing a real 8 for your definition of a 7, I had this discussion with someone else before, the looksmax community needs to get their numbers more accurately, in the real world, when compared to average, there legitimately are 15% of faces in both men and woman(1 standard deviation) that rank at 7 or above the average on a 1-10 scale, in the looksmaxxing community, they think these 7s are 6s possibly, and/or are selecting from certain locations like universities or certain cities, which don't match the broad population, but yes, in a broad population, it actually doesn't take too much to stand out and be above average in attractiveness, a lot of it is just clear skin and lower than average body fat, this dataset doesn't count body shape, which may affect results but in general, fat people have fat and unattractive faces, so it still stands to correlate in the same direction strongly
9 - 10 = Make sure your mouth sticks out longer than your nose, have an ant-shaped head, have caveman looking eye features or look like a cat and have good photoshop skills. Oh! And a professional photographer that is good at photoshop.
2:06 you are wrong. The average is 5/10, but you are using the incorrect method of comparing the tallest and shortest of all time to find the average. Mathematically, this is called the median, and it's not used to find averages. You are supposed to use the mode which would be the height of all men and divide by how many there are. That would be the average global height for males. You are doing the simplifying.
Exactly! His example would be like taking Elon Musk and a completely broke male to find the average wealth of men, and we all know average wealth is not half of whatever Elon is worth these days.
Considering how women treat me and what they say I’d say I’m a 8 to 8.5 overall, I usually always get stares and choosing signals from women, some even start conversations, not to mention I’ve grown over like 100k followers on social media solely from my looks, this is honestly a very good indicator to know if your REALLY attractive or not.
It also depends on where you live. Even though I might be a 5 at the current shape and age I'm in, in my 20's I was a 6 or 7 and was casted to be a top model (to take pictures only) amongst lots of other men. But probably, in another country, I could easily be a 5 my entire life, depending on height, standard facial structure and stuff.
Some of those 7s and 8s seem a little questionable, but when it comes down to getting women, don't forget that charm and confidence pretty much trump (almost) all other factors. Often, very good looking men come to expect that they can wait passively for their desired women to make the first moves, and before they know it those women are swept up by enterprising 6s and 7s.
This is the lookism scale, which is bottom heavy, in fact, at the end of peak PSL, we started agreeing that most guys are infact about 3.5/10. Phenotype matters a lot, as well as things like bone mass index (frame) and height.
I’ve always thought that I’m personally an average looking guy but I’ve consistently gotten compliments from women and even men about different aspects of my looks and I’m only 5’10” now due to degraded knee injuries that dropped my height 1.5”. I’ve had dozens of women say I look like Ryan Goesling or Aaron Paul. Even when I let my beard grow out when I wasn’t trying to draw any attention (when I was married and got tired of women hitting on me in front of my wife and during the divorce because I wasn’t trying to give my ex any ammunition to use against me in the divorce because I was on the winning side) but I’d still have women giving me compliments quite often throughout the day of working and going out to do things for fun. When I was a teenager my looks went against me because the majority of girls in my middle/high school all voted me as the cutest in the school. As I’ve aged I still have the looks of youth and get carded even at the age of 40. It is hard to successfully date when you’re viewed as attractive because finding a good partner who values you more for than just your good looks is difficult. Then if you add in if you’re an intelligent man and have a high IQ it makes it even harder because you want a partner that you can actually have conversations with beyond a superficial level. Personally I’ve always thought myself between 7-8 in the range because I know there are things I can do to make myself more attractive if I wanted to do them. Even at work I get far more tips than all of the women that I work with at my current job in between moving states for the second time in a year to my final destination where I got a great job lined up in my actual career field. It always shocks me when I get compliments from straight and gay men because I’ve always been used to getting attention from women and even having them pursue me because unless I see something truly special in a woman I generally won’t try to pursue her because I’m happy being alone by choice and have never had an issue in finding attractive women who would sleep with me. Before I met my ex wife at 26 I was a player for sure and would have a roster of women that would want to come over to hang out and get laid nearly every day. That type of lifestyle was fun for a bit but ultimately unfulfilling because I lacked any emotional/spiritual connection with the partners. After my divorce finalized it only took me 3 days (2 of those days I was thinking about getting back out there and the 3rd day I started to talk with a few women and accepted the nearly 100 friend requests on social media from the women who added me since I remade my social media) and within 3 hours of chatting with a few of them that didn’t have thirst traps as social medias I found a decent woman who was far more attractive in person than on her social media.
The first time I saw this video I was shocked but it made 100% sense after really thinking about it. Being a 6 is really above average but there's always space for improvement that's the beauty of it. I"ve personally have an IFBB pro as my coach (he does my diet and training) I'm at 10.5% body fat and going down to 6% body fat, I've been working out for more than a year now. I use minoxidil to make my eyebrows way thicker and it's working wonders, I also use minoxidil to grow a beard and by December it will be ready. I have a face routine with all the creams that are necessary and I have a processionnal hairstylist too. I'm into fashion so I dress pretty well. Next year I'm also investing in Invisalign to fix my lower teeth, I currently use whitestrips from crest and its working wonders on my teeth. It's a lot of work but I'm on my way to become a solid 7 following this ranking. It's really crazy how men in general overestimate their beauty, they're really not objective enough or real.
@@neolink8197 I used to get average girls, now that I'm way better looking than before due to all my efforts and also have game I pull solid 8"s on tinder and in the bars and clubs in real life, matter of fact I got a date with a hottie this coming saturday. Because I'm doing all the work I described above when I look at the mirror I just find myself super hot and that gives me huge confidence, so when I'm going out to places I exude that and women love it. Yeah It's a lot of work and investment but nothing it's sexier than a woman that looks at you a certain way, that touches you, that smiles so much and its so deeply into you that they can't help themselves and ask you for your Insta or Phone number... and the only thing you did is say hi and smile and be social.... Now that's power... Beauty is power, for women and men remember that.
I have never judge my self before cause i dont really think anything about my self but i can tell you guys in today's life the more money you have the higher your good looking score most women around the world only wants bigger muscular guys or guys thats rich
@@stanleysimmonsreactions9056 i'm not white bro😭, it's not that I think black ppl can't be attractive, there's ppl like anok yai the model,kelly oubre jr in the nba,and even the kinda blackpilled ytuber austin dunham. I just don't see the attractiveness of mbj
No one ever talks about what life is like as a 8+. Like as rare as it is, its even harder to talk, and you honestly dont have to, everyone else speaks about it in your behalf. And honestly, I can’t even tell you how much this impacts my life to the point where I’m so sick of even thinking about it. You know I gained 50 pounds to see if it would change things and have my life of you more sen it around other attributes, and honestly nothing really changed maybe ever so slightly but honestly, it was the same. That was the biggest shock and I think I realize that I gave up caring. Pretty privilege is absolutely real and I benefit from it even when I’m not trying to, and it makes you feel guilty honestly.
Most men are below women’s standards because male dominated societies for the most part eliminated female sexual selection from the mating process. For thousands of years, women for the most part did not get to choose who they mated with. When they did it was usually at great personal risk, either through an affair or by eloping. Even when societies became more liberal it was usually the men who had pursued the women and women often had to accept any acceptable suitor because rejecting a man also came at great personal risk. It’s only very recently in developed countries that it became culturally appopriate for women to ask out men.
@@anonymous2858 violence in general including murder, or on the lesser scale social or economic consequences if the advances are coming from a man in power over the woman.
I've always had the opinion that I have a 4/10 face but according to this video it's actually 5/10 😁. Not being a sub 5 explains how I get any attention from girls at all. For context, I'm 5'10 and noticably muscular but it's more of an athletic build rather than the bodybuilder look.
I have seen many 8,9, and 10 guys in Italy, Serbia and especially in Montenegro. Most of them are not famous. So, saying that you are destined to be an actor or a model if you are 9 or 10 applies mostly if you live in La, Ny, London, Milano... or go to live and work there.
Oh man, I've been through each of those countries, and you're right, those Montenegro women 😍. I lived in Europe and one of my roommates was from Montenegro. She was attractive but I saw her like a sister, but I kept telling her to hook me up with one of her friends. Only downside is that that country and Serbia are also one of the tallest nations in the world, and I'm 5'10". She was 6'1" and most of her friends were 5'10" - 6' ft, with one friend being 5'6", but she was taken 😔
I got scouted & modeled for a while & it was the most miserable period of my life. I also never felt as attractive as I was paid to be. Set lighting & editing go a long way too. Also, pictures don't tell the whole story. I can't tell you how many men I worked with that had voices squeakier than my girlfriend. No charisma. No charm. No gaze. My deep raspy voice really adds to own attractiveness, but you'd never know that looking at my portfolio. I wish men didn't care about ratings, or numbers, because no matter what you look like there's always someone more attractive than you & I know how horrible it can feel not feeling enough, even though in reality I should shut up & be blessed I was given the appearance I was. But then again... maybe I'm not as attractive as I think I am & this video was made for people like me. Honest & no nonsense perspective. Subbed.
I hope all my brothers know women don’t care and value looks like men do. I find these videos interesting too and appreciate the guy is sharing this information😊 but just Please know women don’t fall in love with looks!! We value a man’s intelligence 😍 and confidence is over rated. Be humble, secure protect your woman and she will love you forever 🥰
I was just saying this the other day. Every guy that is asked rates themselves as a 7 or above. Women its generally 8 and above with a lot of frivolous 10's. Ridiculous. I figured i was a 3, though hope to move to a 4 on my present diet haha. 13kgs down... 20 more to go... no food for me LOL
@@neillunavat Doing weights to try and preserve muscle on the way down to my goal. Impossible to build muscle at the rate i am losing. I recently ordered some HMB powder which is supposed to help with muscle retention as you lose weight, or with age related muscle loss. I was just looking at the scientific studies on it, and i found one that when combined with creatine it can boost testosterone. Worth a shot. So after the cut comes the mass bulk, and mini cuts in between to keep the fat from accumulating too much. New territory for me thats for sure, i've never had the willpower to stick toa diet this well before.
@@MrSoggyjocksRemember have a Good Base and Plan first. Increase Testosterone and other primal hormones through diet. No woman likes a muscle bound gym bro. Work on aesthetics and have a balance. Brad Pitt in Troy for example.
I feel like the looks scale is kinda hit or miss coz there are so much variety between 6 to 7. 1 to 5 is kinda obvious and 8 to 10 is also obvious and subjective but 6 to 7 is everywhere
Based on this I am not sure I have ever met a 9-10. Not only does the guy have to be handsome, but the physique, clothing and lighting has to be on point. I have always used 10% in each category.
very entertaining video but, idk the 4d being average argument doesn’t really make sense with your example: if you have 4’2 in the short extreme and 7’2 in the long extreme, if we have 5’2 in the middle that’s the MEDIAN, not the average. in this case, 5 would be the AVERAGE guy if we use this example
That’s not what the median is. Median is when you line up all values and pick the one right in the middle. Mean (average) is when you add them all and divide by their count. And mode (which is what he actually means here) is the most common value. So if we have: 1, 2, 2, 3, 10 Mean: 3.6 (18/5) Median: 2 because 2 is right in the middle Mode: 2 because 2 shows up the most So here most values are 2 (which is below 3.6). Just like most guys are a 4, even if 5 is the middle of the scale
I may have been an 8 in my youth... but it's all relative... nowadays I take people off guard when I tell them I'm 50... they usually get surprised and tell me they thought I was in my late 30s to early 40s 😂
What would you say is the distinction between a 9 and a 10? I'd say a young Brad Pitt is a 9 and Jordan Barrett is a 10. One is absurdly attractive, the other looks like a literal angel.
For me I just say 9s - 10s because it's so hard to say the difference between them, and I also think it's impossible to have a scientifically 100% "perfect" face. But from my perspective I think you can give those kind of guys a 10/10 because they're as close as it gets and women would rate them as a 10 without thinking about specific ratios and all that.
Thank god I'm not a chick. I can put in a couple years of work and get to a 7 looks wise and by then my companies will have surpassed the 7 figure mark. In hindsight I way rather prefer my position of starting off as a 6 with a fire under my ass to work and improve my life and having the financial rewards long term to go with it than to start off as a 9 or 10 and just be stuck in some 6 figure job with little motivation to endure the harsh sacrifices to drastically improve my situation (sorry if that comes off as pretentious, we all have different opportunities in life).
bro theres more motivation to work in life if ur a 9-10 than ur a 6 all the girls just staring at u and u know whats going on, that gives a lot of dopamine only being present.
I'm a 7 facially tho it might sound as cope but I'm sure about it after noticing the change in attention in public and not to be delusional also tried to evaluate it professionally, my point is I was at a dinner with a guy yesterday and I am sure he was a 8 and it was a humbling expererience, like sure they came and complimented me on my physique but like this guy is a walking 2 meter models and I didn't meet them randomly on the street I was hanging out with them a few hours, I'm a looks guy I love it when someone is different and it felt like I was standing besides a insane person. At first it was like I'm doing all this shi and there are people who are still better then me it really demotivated me, because before that I can tell that I was a 3 or below but I'm positiv to reach that point of a 8 naturally one day facially of course, my body might boost me already to a 8 but I don't count anything under the neck. (just came to the part with 8. and I have to admit I could be put in 7. category but I feel like only surgery can bring me to a 8 right now, I'm still young and my bonestructure is worth being 8 its just my high eyelid exposure is messing it all up, maybe one day I will take the blackpill and get surgery but for now I'll try to get there naturally).
