@@shivam2516 In India height doesn't matter that much bro as average height of girls is around 5'1 so like I would be about 5-6 inches taller than girl if go for short girls plus shoe lifts. And also arrange marriage will always ahead. My big bro ( cousin ) is same height as me maybe little more attractive and hella rich and have married to absolute 8.
The reason why you get height mogged is because a lot pf people way shorter than you are recluses who stay away from social situation that would result in them being heightmogged
Absolutely true. Most short guys stay home because they know how brutal it is out there. Which can raise the average height at many places to well above 6ft.
Yep. I noticed this. If you look outside of a club (never been inside one) you will see tall guys and women in high heels walking around like telling shorties to stay away. Short guys would be in cars so you won't see them pass by.
Most Height averages include old people and people that barely leave the house. When you go out, whether to a bar, a club or to school, you quickly realize the average height in any given situation is MUCH higher. I work at a bar and on an average day I see hundreds of men that are well over 6ft. tall. If you're even an inch under 6ft. you are at a severe disadvantage in modern dating. Women don't give a DAMN if the average male height is 5'9" in America when every club is packed with 100 guys that are over 6ft.
Average height is actually the average height of 19 year old men, the claim that "it includes a lot of old people" is wrong and assumes that old people are short, here in the Netherlands I meet a dozens of men older than 50 who are well over 6'6 every day.
@@spamsam-qq7wd so how do you shorties hook up?? Apps, church (church?!) or what?? I’m still not sure I’m buying this anti-short mentality. What difference does it make to a girl how tall you are? What is it that I can do that a short person can’t? I don’t get it.
@@Lucas-gm3bv If a girl can choose between two guys she is going for the taller one. easy as that. If somebody offers you an iPhone 10 and an iPhone 13 for the same price you go with the iPhone 13.
I'm a 173cm Portuguese and i have a good looking face/good social skills/good engineer degree. I can confirm that night clubs competition was very cut through.
I met up with my friends at the bar about 2 weeks ago and also noticed, that about a half of guys there were chads or at least chadlites. My conclusion was that normies an sub5s avoid this kind of places, because they already know, that they have no chance of success when approaching a girl there.
Same with dancing, all women go to dancing events and if a woman is bad at dancing nobody would ever tell her and she would delusionally believe that she's a good dancer, meanwhile a man who is even an above average dancer would be told that he "sucks" because only the top male dancers are accepted on the dance floor.
@@-haclong2366 I would never tell anyone that they are bad at dancing cause we are going to party. We aren't going to a competition. I want to get drunk and move to loud music. Men that come for flirting are in the way of my fun. Getting rid of people is hard.
height matters if you feel short being 5'10, then i find that hilarious. i'm 5'6 dating is non-existent. As you have mentioned in your other video's i've given up on dating just focusing on me best thing i've done. This channel's content is 100% fact, it sad seeing a lot of video's lately attacking your channels. Keep this content coming as we need to wake more people up to it
@@skomants2997 No , don't do this.. don't risk damaging your body for a woman. Guys, WOMEN DO NOT LOVE MEN. Period.. Look at the divorce rate, it's 53-56%. These are couples that promised to love each other forever.. Women get tired of being with the same guy for too long, think they can do better and leave.. Granted, there's some good women out there, but in general, women are not loyal.. Why go through leg lengthening, just to get laid more often? Your health is more important
When she is threatened by men in an alley or a suitor that wants to steal your girl, will the strength of the guy not matter? The Blackpill doomers that worship fools like TAILS don't have an answer to this, since they never even came close to a woman. What would their answer be? "Women can defend themselves now". Our million year old biology can be undone with 60 years of feminism. Sure thing bro!
Yeah only bad if they can’t see your bones if they are covered in fat. Also they are attracted to lean faces and you can actually get broader shoulder if you train them and put on muscle. Just look at the transformation of Christian Bale
The thing is even though half of men at the night club are top 10% they aren’t the ones who typically approach the women. It’s always the less attractive ones that approach the women.
The top 10% men don't have to approach because they wymen either approach them or make it easy for them(dance right in front of the guy until he notices it). I used to club a lot with fymale friends back in college, if they see a guy they like they will do everything they can to make it easy as possible for the top 10% guy.
@@albertwesker8883 Even the top 10% of men will still have to approach. Most women do not approach men it’s just a top 10% man will 90% of the time not get rejected if he approaches.
I’m 6 foot but I can’t imagine being mogged by many guys. I’ve boxed for like 20 years, which has contributed to my confidence a lot. So if someone is taller than me, my body language and mannerisms don’t change.
I’m probably going to lengthen my limbs, I really don’t like being 5’10”. I read the max you can do safely is 6 inches, but I first have to measure my wingspan and make sure everything is proportional and will be proportional. I’m just not satisfied with life. I want to dominate more men and mog them and make them look small. And on top of that? Being rich and owning guns and armor? I’d be so unstoppable honestly.
@@Us3r739 possibility the dumbest idea, what are you a child? If you are still a teenager judging by your childish ideas, I would recommend HGH, TRT and anavar about 2-8UI of HGH per day, with 250-500mg of trt per week, and the dosage for anavar you can search it up but do a low dosage just because it's oral. You will grow that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks and even though I am 19 and at the end of growing cycle, I still grew 1-2cm, which means probably because of my fast results either I was deficient of HGH or TRT, either I was not heaving enough sleep as now I sleep a lot more. Either way it's much better than any surgery that will put in a wheelchair for half a year to a full year and then of course 2-3 years of recovery, that's a lot of years that you will lose instead of focusing on what you can change in life for real, either way even if you do get this surgery you will still need HGH and TRT and anavar mostly because your bones and muscles will be very atrophied and you will need to get them strong and thick
The more that I watch your videos the more I feel like the black pill is true. I am someone who might have been considered a chad in college. 6’2 230 lbs with relatively low body fat percentage, good muscle mass from constant gym training and diet, above average facial attractiveness and 130 iq. I had my body count in the double digits by the end of my first year at college. After putting on some weight in fat after college during Covid, I am treated like shit by women of varying attractiveness although not only am I nicer and more conscientious, but have my life in order as well and making a lot more money. It leads me to believe that women base their attraction solely on looks and nothing else. Stay strong brothers it’s a rough dating market if you aren’t perfect
"had my body count in the double digits by the end of my first year at college" Lets applaud this man, most men would dream of such numbers and this guy is casually pulling it off.
@@adamg6711 *was, as it's now in the past. To a woman neither your past nor future matter, only your present. You could buy her a diamond ring and tomorrow she would have forgotten it and ask "¿What have you done for me lately?".
@@Krelian4400 I don’t know where you get that from. I never discuss the topic (it’s the biggest red flag), and I’m having no problems (I’m 23, well out of Uni.)
I got rating from Waffles a half year ago and I keep maxxing following his recommendations. Maybe it will be 0,0001% chance to succeed, but I prefer this scenario than 0% because of not trying...
25 year old kissless virgin here. My face got 4/10. I also calculated SMV using Waffles formula: 5,32/10. Since last rating I've lowered Body Fat percentage from 19% to 16% thanks going to the gym. This week I got second Carboxytherapy for skin under eyes to reduce dark circles. Next month I'm going to go for Rhinoplasty and Septoplasty for my curved and crooked nose
Basically a slave auction house. THey just want to put the top tall guys and women in heels up in front to breed. You're basically PAYING the slavemaster to enter and dance and drink
Most guys don't know their true height. I've found that guys who think they are 6ft are usually truly 5'10. And the guys who think they are 5'10 are closer to 5'9. Anything legitimately over 6ft is negligeable unless you're in the 6'4 range. But any true 5'10 guy is easily 6'1 - 6'2 with shoes and no one notices.
@@GregArmyStrong won't call him a liar But if he's 5'10 it's more than likely with shoes. He likely got mogged in other areas. And being ginger is a huge handicap.
@@jones848 Shoes only add 1 inch of height or so. If a guy puts lift inserts in his shoes, it'll give him another inch on top of that or so. But 4 inches from wearing shoes? You'd have to be wearing some high boots for that.
If you're under 5'8" ITS OVER. If you're between 5'8" to 5'10" you've got an insane uphill battle. Between 5'10 to 6' you are still going to have to work really hard. 6' to 6'2" should be like shooting fish In a barrel. Over 6'2" like shooting fish in a barrel with a grenade launcher.
Don’t matter if your tall you still gotta put in hard work. Your perception of height correlating to dating is skewed. My friends and I are between 5’7 and 5’11 and never had any problems with dating 7 to 9s. We’re all athletes and women come naturally. And not all people over six foot have it easy, if they don’t in effort women are repulsed by them and prefer shorter guys they work on themselves more, It’s not some Herculean task like you say it is.
I don't agree with the blackpill but the feeling of being surrounded by guys who are taller than you is a truly embarrassing experience. I am supposedly average height (179cm, just over 5'10) and it feel like at least 70% if the people in my college are taller than me. Even the girls. I send my prayers to guys who are shorter than me and I hope they find some peace in their lives
even in the netherlands girls taller than 180cm is very rare like 2-3% in the uk and usa its more like less than 1% even in tall ethnicities either those girls are wearing heels or you buddy are 170-172cm max
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL omg what an idiots brainwashed blackpiller. "even the girls are taller then me" girls are taller then 179 cm ofc bro. as someone who lives in Germany really tall country rarely I see girls over 179 cm. even a young guy in germany who is 179 is 99% ok with height. face is MUCH MUCH MUCH more important then height once you reached 178 cm. once you reached 180 cm and you have pretty face even a a guy who is 190 cm is insignificant. there is a critical mass in height and once you reach it that's game. other factors come to play.
I'm 5'5. I threw the towel and gave up on dating 3 years ago. I have since decided to focus on my career, fitness and hobbies and it's been nice to not have distractions that are derailing me from my personal goals.
I've never dated. I usually just go to clubs to get laid or at least kiss someone or dance with them. Last time it was a 35 yo. I'm 20. She was kinda cute though.
I’m 6’1 and have had generally good success in comparison to my friends who would be shorter. Although I remember a girl, who I had a fling with, ended up dating a 5’6 guy instead of me. She was 5’4. So height makes a difference, especially in a night club but outside of this environment it’s minimised a bit.
@@-haclong2366 Women mostly only date looksmatched men bcuz those men are often more desperate and accommodating towards the woman. Casual sex is different.
Height doesn't make you a good partner for a long-term relationship. Sure in a nightclub its easier to spot a person if he is higher but that doesn't mean anything for a relationship.
Although I'm just 5'7 I tend to have decent luck compared to guys a few inches taller. My brother's are both 5'9 with a bigger bone structure but I would always get the positive attention from relatives because my face is more attractive. To be honest I think circumstances matter a lot. I only get lucky when I'm out with some good friends having a good time and conditions are ripe. Now that I'm older I simply don't have as many interactions, but I still get the sexy eyes when interaction is a necessity.
I live in europe and been to many places in europe and i’m 179cm, so basically the same height as wheat waffles. I very rarely get height mogged, if I do get height mogged it’s by some nerd or unattractive guy so I don’t give a shit because I face mog them. Technically my height is average, however I’d say i’m taller or same height than maybe 70-80% of men I come across, i’m not even joking. I even have friends who claim their 187cm and when I stand beside them it’s literally such a minor difference, it’s definitely not a mog. I think people over exaggerate the height topic, yeah if you’re like 160cm you get mogged everywhere but anything above 175cm it’s really not that crazy.
Yeah I'm 178cm and these guys are delusional (5'10) Travelled with a 6'2 (189cm) Friend recently and the height difference was minimal, I thought he was only 2 inches taller than me lol Usually when I go out i'm average/slightly above average anywhere I go
It’s only bad in Northern Europe and some Eastern European countries. I definitely noticed the mog in Amsterdam. The height difference between the Dutch and Germans is noticeable
Bullshit dude. I am the same height and i get heightmogged all the time. I live in sweden but traveling in other european countries aswell. People are tall as trees
Wheat Waffles = Liar The Average Height in a Night Club is not 6'1, Wheat is a coping projecting manlet who is lying about his height and he is not even 5'10 anyway, I would say more in the ball park of 5'7 to 5'8 and he is lying about his height up 2 to 3 inches like all normies do, because apparently is it is neurotypical to lie about your height, but that is not the point. The point is that it is ridiculous to say that the average height of a guy in a night club is 6'1 when Zyzz the legend himself claimed 187 cm and was taller than most guys in Australian Raves which is basically the same thing as a Night Club. Wheat you are just coping 5'7 to 5'8 manlet and those guys at the night club are 5'10 to 5'11 average height guys, just accept the reality and stop coping! I can't believe that Waffles is 5'10 when he says he gets height mogged by 80% of guys, that is sounding more like 5'8 or below range, even in night clubs they are not significantly above average. I rarely see a guy that is 200 cm or above that is like 1 in 1000 height or greater, and you don't have to be a giga height mogger to attract females, because average height is enough if you got the face.
Yeah he's in denial about his height, I'm a legitimate 178cm (5'10) and if I wear 2 inch lifts I'm practically taller than everyone in public whenever I go out Just youtube "Nightclubs" on here and you'll see that the men there aren't as tall as he'd make them out to believe - Even in Sweden they're around the same height as the women who wear heels
Im 21 years old and 5"3 and at this point I just swallowed hard the black pill and moved on with my life ( gym, hobbies, career etc) You lose interest in dating eventually and once you accept it, thats when you'll be at peace with yourself.
Good on you. I'm 32 and also 5'3, but during my 20s I was delusional and struggled hard for an entire decade without realising the BP. The sooner you are at peace with yourself, the better. All the best.
No bro don’t give up I’ll advise (if you’re white) you go to Asia where there are plenty women who want white men who’d be shorter than you or if you really want a western woman I’ll suggest you make up for your height in other areas like having a good looking face, money ,status. It’s gonna be tough but it definitely increases your chances and you should also target short average or little bit above average looking girls (5-7) and your priority should be a marriage like relationship because it’s near impossible to be sleeping around.
If you've completely accepted it, you wouldn't be commenting here. You can't just accept being treated like a subhuman by everyone. It's not acceptance, it's "cope".
Hey brother I'm 5'1 and spent 6 years B Pilled. Don't take it in full until you're 30-35 and have spent 9 years actually building yourself up. It's not fair that us short men have to learn to fly to reach beds chad can walk to, but it's worth it if you find the right partner. I'm not going to suggest you work hard for a landwhale, but there are good women out there who will love and respect you... but unfortunately you gotta spend a few years loving and respecting yourself first.
The imperial metric system is also at fault here because in other countries girls will talk about guys being 180cm but that is 3cm shorter than 6ft and therefore is easier to acheive on average. It's because 6ft is where you breaks the cap of 5,..ft and it sounds better, just like 180cm is a rounder number than 179cm and therefore is the cap to be broken up to reach the minimum height in their book.
I feel you, brother. I am 6'3 1/2, and I have been height-mogged by 6'7 ultra-studs that are not as uncommon as they used to be in the past. I don't know what they are putting in the water, but boys are growing really, really big these days. I am 6'3 1/2(1.92 meter), I am supposed to be at the top 1,.5% in height, and yet there isn't a single day that I don't see a guy at least 2: taller than me. The new generation is crazy!
@@gdup1728 True, especially since my face is also way above average, and I did photpgraphic modeling in my teens.😁The only reason why I wasn't Prom King in high school is because I had a serious health problem with a rlative that precluded me from going. Don't get me wrong: I am not complaining. I have been treated like Royalty my whole life, since I was a little boy. All I am saying that over the past few years I have been seeing an unusual number of 6'5+ guys, when gus that are like 6'6 or 6'7 are supposed to be a fraction of one percent of the population. The other day for the first time I ever, I saw 4 young guys that were all as tall or taller than me. The "shortest" one was my height, the other was slightly taller than me and the other 2 looked to be 6'6. First time I experienced what a manlet must feel like. Gen-Z boys are growing like weeds! But, yeah, I am still a massive 6 inches taller than the average male. I am not religious at all, but some times I ask myself why I was given so much while others were given so little, especially since I am not a super good person or anything like that. I don't think that the geneticlaly superior such as ourselfves should mock short and/or ugly guys, because it's really not their fault. We also did nothing to deserve what we have. But, yeah, my life is really, really sweet. My only reason for sadness is that, in a few more years, the age pill will bring me down. You see, I am not Gen-Z, but a Millenial. I am starring at the big 4-0 a few years hence, and the inevitable decline in looks and health. I had a really amazing, blessed life. But it all must come to end some day. I guess that the final victory of incels and Looksmaxxers over people like us ist that looks and height can's save you from ageing.
Get in the gym, train hard and become the best version of yourself bro. Don’t listen to these pathetic blackpillers who give up on life just cause things aren’t going well for you now. Progress takes time. Stay blessed king
I'm 5'6 and I was thinking the same way as you in my early 20s at university. I was shy and timid with girls which is a HUGE turn off for them. In my 30s I gained lot of confidence through success that changed my behavior and that was a game changer. I also worked on my body language, tried to look even more confident. Being short is a true disatvantage on dating sites, but not necessarily in real life. When you're in the center of attention and look very confident, your hight is no longer a factor. Try to talk to anyone around you with confidence and a good body language, women will notice. I'm 50 now, I've seen a lot of things, I know you still don't believe this but showing confidence and being somebody is way more important for women than your height or how handsome you are. Women attact to confindent men.
I agree that people exaggerate. However, they probably are slightly taller than the average. Usually tall people have tall groups of friends and when you go to a night club the tall people stand out, so you stop noticing the shorter people.
Im 5'11 and 94kg. Ive been lifting weights for about 10 years and am relatively lean. I do fairly well with women on nights out, i will almost always have options. I must say having muscle does really help, even women who say they do not like it, most of them do when they realise your not self obsessed and do not take steroids. A lot of women want to touch you, a lot say they feel safe when with you. Easy pickings realky. Much more than women though, having muscle leads to many, many men asking me food, weights, training splits on nights out.
@yendevus1747 you seem confused. Lean is related to fat free mass. Fat free mass is calculated by subtracting body fat weight from total body weight, total body weight is lean plus fat. So if you are lean, it has nothing to do with weight, the reason a weight quite a lot is because of muscle mass. My body fat % is less than 10%. Lean does not mean skinny. Simply low levels of fat. Hope that clears it up. Fk hamas.
The only reason the "average" is 5'9 is because of old boomers and immigrants. Men in their 20s who were born in the west are basically all 6 ft +. University is such a massive blackpill.
after frauding my big forehead and getting jaw surgery for overbite, dyeing eyebrows, losing weight and clearing my skin i could be a 7 easily. pretty good eye area, curly hair, amazing frame for my height, semi warrior skull, couple of girls were interested in me. if i wasnt nerfed by being 5'7.5, i would be a pvssy magnet
I'm 5'11 and i asked my sister (5'3) if i'm tall or not and she said i'm too short. Then i asked her how tall she thinks the avg height of a man is, and she answered that what she consider man is anything up 6'1
As a man who barley stands five feet tall, I’ve realized I have no chance of ever dating a woman so I learned to find other things in life (hobbies, goals, etc) to help me cope. I am content in life and I haven’t developed a hatred towards women I just unconsciously accepted that I came up “snake eyes” in the genetic lottery and by accepting that I gained freedom.
Which is fine, really. I'm in my 40ies and can tell you it doesn't matter if you connect with anyone at university or not. You just go on with your studies, go to clubs, meet people anywhere and everywhere else. After 4 or 5 years you'll have your degree, will likely move out of town or out of your home country for work, and will make new friends. The university clique will be long forgotten by then. Totally overrated. You can be a content loner at university with a private life outside the uni setting.
Bro, the Internet says the average man there is 6'1. You are still 2 inches taller than the average man there. I find it hard to believe, might be that you only notice the guys that were taller than you and subconsciously ignored the others
For a guy named Honest Waffles, you don't seem honest at all my guy. I estimate your height to be 5'5/5'6 and you're coping/trying to make real 5'10 guys feel bad because you're shorter. These guys at the night club are probably between 5'9-5'11, you're just short and don't want to admit it. Either that or this whole video is literally a troll/social experiment.
Sad to say, but I have never found a woman I would like to see again at a nightclub. The 3-5 times I have gone to a nightclub, all I have seen are a clientele with bad self control and a blank stare only Tinder could have caused. So I guess there is another bias: "Men who look for women with good values are disincentivized from going again, and men who like a tattooed, loud lady are going to be back".
@@albertelmgart3402 Cope Zoomers are at best 1 inch taller than millennials! Find me one study that says that zoomers are significantly taller, than other generations you literally cannot. Your pulling these statistics out of your ass, the average white zoomer is 5'10 at best
@@albertelmgart3402 It's because a lot of 5'9 to 5'10 guys are lying about their height and saying that they are 6ft when in reality they are 5'9 to 5'10, that is why you get women thinking that 6ft is average height, because 99% of men are height frauders. The truth is a legitimate 6ft tall which is like 6'0.5 in the morning is actually taller than 75% of White Zoomers, and is a good and respectable height for a guy to have. You might be doubting me, but remember just be honest to yourself you might be shorter than you think if you believe that Zoomers are this gargantuan, unless you live in Scandinavia, Netherlands, Germany, or of course Mogger Spain that has 6'1 average for Med/White Zoomers. If you seriously believe that British Nigel's have an average height of 6'1 in Night Clubs you are beyond delusion, there is a reason why the Emperor of Rome said that British People are the ugliest people in the world, because the truth is that they are on average, and nothing can change it. The United Kingdom is the land of the boneless, Bad Teeth, 5'9 manlet height, Overbites which make their jaw look even more recessed, Long Horse like face, Recessed Mandibles and Maxillas, feminized British accent, and Disgusting sickly pale skin, while Spain is the land of near perfect forward growth, good healthy teeth, perfect bite, forward grown mandible and maxilla, 6'1 Mogger Height on average, Masculine Spanish accent, and a nice tanned skin. The Spanish mog the British so hard that it should be considered illegal, that is how bad it is to be a Nigel. Average Nigel's in the Night Clubs are 5'10 at absolute max for all of the reasons that I just mentioned why they are inferior to the Spanish, while in Spain it's like 6'2 to 6'3 in Night Clubs. The UK doesn't mog shit it's literally the land of the recessed have you ever been to the UK, everyone there is ugly asf just like Russia, if you want to see good-looking people go to a Mogger Country like Spain where most of the people are forward grown asf, due to superior testosterone levels. This is also why I don't believe that Wheat is anything above 5'8, because he is a Nigel, and Nigel's don't mog shit.
do I have hope to grow taller I am a 5'7 and 15 years old and 8 months old male and my 2 friends are around the same age as me and are 6'1 and 6'4 and I feel rly short next to them also my 10 year old brother is already 5'3 and hes most likely gonna be taller than me when hes fully grown also to many people from outside especially males and university/college students and high school students tower over me way to much I even see some females in the streets are taller than me once in a while and all of this stuff is making me rly miserable and insecure am I stuck at 5'7 forever or do so I still have time to grow ###### @@@@@@@@@@###############--###########****@@@@,,########################@@@;;########*********############~~~~~~@@@@@@@####'''##########
Why does height seem to be more important in the Anglo world? I live in Spain and I'm remarkably short, yet many girls seem to not care that much. I'm going to study in the UK next year and I'm wondering how I'll be perceived over there
@@marcosbona8260 As a short person you may have access to less girls, but if you can attract every girl that accepts your height, you can still have many options.
Maybe its the UK but I disagree bro. University / college reflects the same average height as the real world too. Infact, I found more good looking shorter dudes (5'4-5'10) who come from families of money in University/college than outside. Short dudes become wealthy, marry an attractive woman, and then send there kids to University. University is a privilege for kids from upper middleclass/wealthy families. Majority of men are unable to afford it so being there in the first place is a luxury. But from my experience it is dominated by shorter, more average height guys. The athletes are tall but they are too busy doing athlete shit they dont even party or go out that much. Could just be Canada/US though cheers mate
Maybe US/Canada is different. The financial barriers to entry aren't so large in the UK because the government gives extremely generous loans that most people will never pay off, therefore prettymuch anyone can go university. I agree when I walk around campus I am average height, but when I go to nightclubs it's a completely different story and most guys are 6', 6'1 or 6'2.
3:26 You also have to think that the average guy at a uni is 17-20 years old, your still growing to some extent not just in height but also filling out. Your frame doesn’t really fully mature as a man until about 24,25. I was still growing height wise until 21.
Most guy stop growing in height between 17 and 18. Sure, there are those who keep growing until 21, and there are also those who stop at 14 or 15. Yet those are deviations from the average. After 18, on average, a man does not grow more than 1 cm.
@@mcamara3914 France is a curious case, since a lot of people from the northern coast, the German and the Belgian borders are ethnically germanic. The height difference compared to southern France, in the borders with Italy and Spain is really noticeable.
do I have hope to grow taller I am a 5'7 and 15 years old and 8 months old male and my 2 friends are around the same age as me and are 6'1 and 6'4 and I feel rly short next to them also my 10 year old brother is already 5'3 and hes most likely gonna be taller than me when hes fully grown also to many people from outside especially males and university/college students and high school students tower over me way to much I even see some females in the streets are taller than me once in a while and all of this stuff is making me rly miserable and insecure am I stuck at 5'7 forever or do so I still have time to grow #################### #########@@~~@@@@###@@@~~@@@@@#####_--###### ###@@
I use to be fat and short and all my friends tall and skinny. Now I'm married, bought a house before 30, successful, still short but lost a lot of weight, then buffed up while my friends are all still tall, fat, single and talk about how depressed they are about their lives. The day I stopped focusing on my height and just did my work is the day I turned my life around, got out of that sad and pathetic lifestyle and started progressing. It's all about mind set and self discipline.
Being at university is already a privilege, a good chunk of men can't even afford going because of how expensive it is, me and a lot of my male friends couldn't go to uni and had to start working early, and as of right now, I work during the day and have classes during the night so I can finish my degree. I am saying this so men don't get obsessed with height when they're already in a place that makes things such as hookups and meeting new people such an easy task. I know a lot of twigs (i'll use your word) that have no social skills, are not even that tall and just look like crap that had a chance to meet so many people and even women just because they were in that environment. My advice is simple, get in shape, even if you're 5'10 you'll stand out, majority of people you see around are either skinny or out of shape, so being in a decent shape will already get you in really good position.
Maybe it is true that in the UK everyone is skinny, but in the US people are generally larger (and fatter). Also most people here go to the gym regularly. So for young men in American uni, you would probably be dead average there. The heightmogging is generally accurate but you are probably seeing taller people more because shorter people tend to be less socially active because they know (consciously or not) that their height is a detriment.
Most guys do not actually go to the gym, it’s just for show. Going to the gym isn’t enough to build a good physique, with good discipline you’ll easily overtake them.
I'm 198cm, pudgy, and not the prettiest man. The only ones in my friend group that get more numbers than me are those that go to the gym. Get tall or get swol.
I simply do not believe that height is as important as you guys always say. I am 6,3 (191 cms) and I never saw that working to my advantage. Girls always passsed me up for someone much shorter but facially more attractive. I dont udnerstand why the heigh issues gets so much attention. Facial attractiveness is king... everything else is secondary...
blackpill states that face > height, but height is still decently important. In your case, the other guys the girls chose over you were probably at least over 5'10, so they weren't short at all.
Idk if you're right about that, but in public I tend to have much better chances than normal. I have a pretty decent looking face and I'm 5'7 with muskles.
I'm 5 10 and usually get with a girl every night I go out alone. With friends less so cause I don't like leaving them and I kinda end up stealing them by accident.
Im 6'1, 190 lbs, been working out for 3+ years. I go to a University in germany and get height mogged pretty frequently, tbh. But I size mogg basically everybody, so I guess I have that.
You are 190lbs at 6'1 and "size mogg basically everybody" at your university? I'm 200lbs of mostly muscle at only 5'10, to explain my perspective. Are all those tall students just lanky and skinny? Is no-one there working out, or a bit bulkier by nature?
@@iancavon7125 Im relatively lean, 12% bf. Maybe its because Im studying Mechanical Engineering, but theres nobody on my level. There are a few guys, who lift, but theyre shorter, fatter and its safe to assume I outmuscle them
@@JSK_03 Ah, now I understand about your kind of university. There's primarily technicians and intellectuals, rather than those jocks and gym rats that fill American universities. So you're something like a "Greek god among nerds"! I guess mechanical engineering hasn't many girls though. Btw, 12%, that's a good bodyfat level. Keep going, and all the best!
@@iancavon7125 Im sure there'd be a lot more people in other Universities, who outclass me, but my Uni is only his Engineering, IT, Physics and other similar majors. All the other majors can be found in the other Uni in town. And ye, we dont got a lot girls.
I am 5'11 and in my country it is barely taller than average. I noticed that at any work place I am like in top 30% of height and in small groups I am the tallest person, but each and every time I go outside I am getting slightly heightmog. This is happening constantly for a few years so I am going to tell a few things 1) Average height does not increase. I see a lot of older men in their 50s who are 6ft+ and they have just the same height as a younger generation. By the way, studies that count men's height usually include people in their 18-40. If these studies say that height stays the same... Well, it actually does. 2) Taller people are more social due to positive reinforcement. I know one dude who is constantly talking about being tall and getting laid every week. He is asian with ugly large face and often get rejected because of his ethnicity but he has rich sex live overall and he is 6'1. I think tho that he is dating wh*res and mid-ugly women but he admitted that his height is the only reason why he is not a virgin. 3) Next generation is going to be slightly taller than the current one. I think that the difference between us is going to be about 1 inch. I often see couples with taller dads and it is usual those who are above 6 foot. For some strange reason they are dating womanlets 5'1 or something and the juggernaut law is the main reason I do not believe that height is going to explode in the future.
@@gj9157 yes, and due to juggernaut law they are reproducing fast enough to compensate for taller men. I don't believe in this narrative where zoomers are all 6'3 or something because with that logic every woman gotta be 5'11 or something but I see them rarely.
I am between 5'11-6'0 relatively above average from Turkey. According to statistics, Turkish man are the shortest in Europe with an average height of a Turkish man is about 5'8 and a half and all my grand parents are 5'7. But new generation is about 5'10-5'11 if the height of a generation increases like an inch or two it means that you are on a good side. For example, when you are looking for a country like India average height depreciates year by year.
i live in syria and am 182.5m barefoot .. 184-185m with shoes and boots .. believe me i still find my height average here at college or as i walk down the street a lot of guys at my college have the same height so being 6ft or 6'1 doesnt make the cut anymore.. the average height is skyrocketing all around the world not just in europe and america
@@jmghfnrtckljhyijnm Some people only bring excuses. They wanna have everything free without working for them. They want that Chad blue-pilled life. It´s like crying over not winning the lottery and wanting to give up on life. Believing in being an inkwell (if you're not below 4in FACE and below 157 cm height ) is an excuse because I always see people on streets(in central Europe) with 4/10 faces with hot blond girls kissing them with passion.
Even as a guy who is 197cm / ~6.5, I cant "capitalise" on my height, because lots of guys in my town is 175cm+. You really cant find much short guys here. So I cant stand out that much only with my height, so I try to focus on fitness and get slimmer/more muscular, because I am still a bit chubby guy
@@Lieutenantfollicle well, I had one gf before, and I realised that some (few) girls "liked" me, but still, most of them would trade a bit of height for better physique/face/money-status, so I dont have that much advantage, since there are an abundance of guys
Wheat waffles I appreciate how good at fitness you are. I would not sacrifice fitness for pure brawn. I am 17 and I dont train in running but I am naturally fast and my best 5k was only sub 19 minutes. I heavily commend you for your athletic prowess. I hope I can reach your level or better in the future.
My smaller brother height mogs me I am the shortest in my family and I have noticed that women are really inclined to talk and interact w him meanwhile even though I try I am always relegated to the sidelines and feel like an npc. I think it is over for me fr I really try , but I realize that I usually get cold responses from girls or some even stop talking completely after they see me. I think the red pill is bs because if women do not find you attractive you are not getting anything attention , affection , time etc. Looks are everything I realized this when a girl would act cold towards me but very warm and welcoming to my brother even though they do not know each other that much. Blackpill is truth if you are average or below g f 'ing g my guys. It over unless you money max, looksmaxx , social max , statusmax and until then getting a girl who really likes you for you is just a fantasy for people like me.
Wow, me and you are literally the same person. My younger brother is 6'1, incredible bone structure and handsome face and I'm a fucking ugly faced goblin at 5'8, he's height mogged me for years. Last Christmas, we had some people over and they were all fascinated with my younger brother, they couldn't believe he was the younger one and I was the elder. I felt so shit, my self esteem went even lower. They were all women too. It makes me not even want to try with women, because I know the truth and how it'll always play out. I either die alone, or find a woman to live a forced, fake relationship with since I know deep down she would NEVER be attracted to me or love me. Physically, I was born premature so I never really stood a chance but goddammit, BOTH my brothers are fully developed men and I'm just HERE in this small, frail body. I have nothing, I am nothing. There is nothing. There is no solution for me, I don't even have a good looking face and I blame my father for all of my physical disadvantages since he is like me. I'm a spitting image of him, although a bit taller since he's 5'6. At the end of the day though, I cannot hate my father because he has lived my exact life, but for much longer. He did not ask to be short and unconventionally attractive. Nor did I, but we live with our burdens. It's for this very same reason why I cannot have children, I will not curse them with my ugliness and abominable features. They will not be cursed to live ugly, unfulfilled, and depressing lives like me. I won't put that on them.
@@Fightookaishiibruh it’s not height at all it’s just attractiveness bro. And If you get a good looking girl it negates lol. Bull up hit the gym to get leverage over your siblings and nichemaxx
@raskult my nigga I been doing all that. Been kickboxing for a year so I'm on the fitter side of things now, and I been focused on my career and hobbies. Still tryna lose some weight though, and of course, there are other things I need to improve upon but it doesn't change the fact that I'm a 5'8 goblin. Even if I do get with a beautiful, tall girl, and we have kids, I guarantee one of them lil rascals is gonna take after me and I will NOT raise a child to despise me because I wanted to be selfish and not think of the consequences of a nut. Not only will they hate me, they will hate themselves and the world and I can't afford for that to happen. I don't want to bring pain like that. Fuck that shit.
Night club lighting makes people look better, once the light goes on you see the difference. But yeah there is a higher percent of more attractive men. In my city I never thought a frat party or night club was that different
This was very interesting actually. I'm a guy in my 40ies and it seems you youngsters have crazy competition going on with each other, I mean among men for status, and competition for women for being "selected". Phrases like "I was no longer the mogger, I was no longer able to compete, I got completely destroyed" show how stressful this nightclub experience might have been, and what a comparison/competition game is going on. Is this really today's straight dating world? Only the 10% most attractive guys have good cards? I really don't like assessing attractiveness on a scale, eg, a 7 or a 8, we're more than that as human beings. I'm gay which means I never went into the straight dating world, but I think it used to be a bit different 20 years ago. Many of my short colleagues at university had attractive girlfriends and were seemingly doing just fine. I guess social media have set us up for crazy competition regarding looks, which is not doing us a favour. I do realise that women always found me attractive and over the years I indeed got at lot of compliments for my 6'3 and muscles, ie, these Chad-features as it is now called, although I absolutely never felt like a "Chad". I never had problems finding guys for dates, and it is also because of my physical features, I'm aware of that. Nevertheless, there are many many gay guys of my age who are much shorter and still had lots of dates and also long-term relationships. However there is a dominance/submission game ongoing, where height is perceived as a dominant feature which will then fuel expectations regarding your sexual role. But in general, it seems the dating market has really become much tougher, I think it's time to stop this craziness and move back to healthier attitudes. It seems the capitalist competition game has permeated all aspects of life.
Be happy you aren't young right now. Im almost 24 and it's tough in every way. Young people are very very superficial and rude. And it's not getting better unfortunately, worse actually......
Glad I came across this comment as an over 40 year old in America. "Destroyed, mogged" etc. I remember being in the club watching dance-off's with folks looking a sweaty mess but smelling like Coolwater and Marlboros. Sounds like these kids walk around with Terminator/Dragon Ball Z Scouter vision checking stats😂 sad though because I have young ones coming up.
Would you actually be 178 cm, I’m 179cm(measured accurately I’m actually nearly 180 in the morning) and I’m the same height as guys who “claim” to be 6ft. Many guys overestimate their height. Whenever a guy says 5ft 8 is short their more likely to be 5ft 6
What's more likely that the average men in a UK Night Club is 6'1 and they are extraordinarily tall, while the evidence points to the average men in the UK being only 5'9, or that Wheat Waffles is lying about his height by two to three inches like most normies? If you were to ask me it would be the latter
Nah he’s definitely right I’ve been to clubs later on in the year and 6’1 is average I think it’s more the fact that zoomers are getting taller as well.
Would you rather be 5’7 chad or 5’10 normie? According to wheat, they are equal. I think the chadlet is an obvious option (5’7 Zayn Malik v 5’10 normie)
@@GregArmyStrong i agree with wheat where, height with sex appeal will get better results in degenerate environments for low quality women in clubs, but i think looks are more important for warm approach (given your 5'7+) and going for avg height women
Zayn is Chadlite? Are you insane? He is the prettiest man out there and women, especially younger ones, are all about pretty men. Your male gaze means nothing in light of female gaze
5'7 chad, because in real life just being taller than her is often enough or being the same height, and sometimes she's okay with you being shorter when your face is very good, i often see attractive girls (face) picking the face over the height
@@SpecialAbonnentid rather be the chadlite provided he ages gracefully the issue its not really a fair question because 5'10 normie doesnt really have much goiing for him in this market a better question would be a 5;9 chadlite close to model status verse a 6 foot htn ie good looking but not male model that would be extremely not sure who would win because the chadlite would met an acceptable height threshold but the htn would be 6 feet and still pretty goood loo
I'm 5ft9 and about 95-100kg with 10% or less bodyfat. I've been lifting weights for about 15 years and I've never heard anyone (including women) calling me short or small or whatever and no, I don't live in Asia. What's with that height thing nowadays?
I'm 29 (so far out of college) and went to a club in St. Louis. All of the college kids there were 6'7 and looked like Tik Tok models lol. I'm 5'11 and I looked like a midget. Me and my buddy couldn't stop laughing at the situation.
There was a guy at my uni who was slightly below average facially but was 6"2/6"3 and pulled ebery week. It goes to show that height is probably more important.
There are too many 6”2 - 6”3 guys in my age group for that height to save a bad face. I’m 6”1 and feel barely above average, even average in some groups.
I think it’s a pretty silly concept to say mogging someone is just so much about “height” cause it isn’t, it’s about your looks, status, your confidence, style and so on, just cause some dude is 7’1 and I’m 6’4 doesn’t mean he “moggs me lol, that 7’1 guy is probably a twig too
