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The Real Billy the Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Shooting At Ft. Sumner

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In this episode, I will examine William Henry Roberts' account of July 14, 1881, the shooting at Ft. Sumner. I will also compare Roberts' statements with those made by Pat Garrett and John Poe. Additionally, I will do a detailed analysis of all the events relevant to what purportedly occurred that night at the home of Pete Maxwell.
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@jimmiethomas7194 11 месяцев назад

This story is the truth! Pat Garret did not kill Billy the Kid, he shot the wrong man. I’m a descendent of the Maxwells and heard the story growing up. Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid!

@afoxxy06 10 месяцев назад

There's many official records of Bill Robert's life. Bottom line:He's way too young to be The Kid. Pat may not have killed Billy, but Bill Roberts was full of shit.

@Mason_hollaway 10 месяцев назад

Pat Garret was my anestor

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

@@afoxxy06 I've already done a video debunking the claim that Roberts was too young to be the Kid using census, employment and genealogical records. Thanks for watching. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EK9oRxqmee0.html

@Hewasthebestthatcame 10 месяцев назад

Carney-Morgan-Wicker-Lamb-Smith-McCarty-Morgan-Carney, that is our family relatives… well that’s what I’ve been told

@dodgeramsport01 10 месяцев назад

@@afoxxy06 The kid was born around 62 not 59

@user-iv3qv4hc8j 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for recognizing my father Johnny Martinez he was so passionate about the true history regarding Billy the Kid. We lost him on Sept 28th, 2023 . He would have loved to have seen this.

@FaceOfAmerica2.0 10 месяцев назад

May he rest in peace. ❤️ 🙏

@user-db5ox4vt5j 10 месяцев назад

God ur beautiful

@blaze3884 9 месяцев назад

I remember watching that interview your Dad did, he was a very knowledgeable man, a serious piece of history. I'm sure you have so many great memories and stories he gifted you with! ❤

@user-iv3qv4hc8j 9 месяцев назад

@user-db5ox4vt5j thank you, I look like my Daddy.

@DouglasRichardson-er4ky 9 месяцев назад

May your father RIP 🥀 best wishes from Buckeye AZ 🌵🤠🐎

@rpgentertainment211 5 месяцев назад

A fantastic video. Thank you so much. I think whether one believes Brushy Bill was Billy The Kid or not, what is at least obvious to me is that Billy The Kid didnt die at Fort Sumner in 1881! My view is that Brushy was The Kid!

@AnthonySolis-dp1gw Месяц назад

It’s funny how there is no photo of the dead body. People say there was no photographer there because it’s in the middle of nowhere at the time, but yet the famous tin type photo was taken in fort sumner. Doesn’t anyone find that odd.?

@brushybret Месяц назад

@@AnthonySolis-dp1gw Absolutely!

@user-sw9zc5jj6p День назад

@@brushybret Most every outlaw killed was immediately photographed either laid out or at the funeral parlor. But......DAMN.... but NOBODY photo graphed Billy....also NOBODY.....found it prudent to mark the location of the Maxwells house after the flood.....NOBODY marked the location of John Chisums main house/headquarters.

@edwardmarapese868 8 месяцев назад

You connected all the dots and left no stone unturned there is no doubt brushy bill was billy the kid awesome job Brett keep it up

@Obizzil. 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been alive 47 years and followed Billy and have even ben to Lincoln, but this is the best understanding and closest to the facts that i have ever been.

@jasonmccullough5743 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for putting this together

@jamesconroy6078 3 месяца назад

For sure there would have been a photo, most wanted man in the U.S., I believe this is the real story. Great job. Thanks.

@samuraisteve2775 Месяц назад

Another ding dong saying there would be a picture… How rare was it for anyone except a professional photographer to have a camera in the 1880’s?🤯 They were using candles ding a ling.🫵🏻

@DavidThomas-qq4hf 24 дня назад

@@samuraisteve2775why so angry? Are people no longer entitled to opinion?

@Charles53412 10 месяцев назад

I'm glad you added John Martinez's story ! It's extremely compelling !

@bobbycagle2506 10 месяцев назад

Good job Brett. Brushys story of these events fills in all the gaps. Very enlightening!

@brushybret 9 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@sichinook3793 11 месяцев назад

I've been waiting for this episode for soooo long! Thank you.

@elizabethdann1997 2 месяца назад

Does anyone else remember that INTERVIEW about Jesse James Cousin Ida? She discussed Her Uncle Jesse and Billy the Kid. Jesse actually rode with Billy’s father in The War between the States. Cousin Ida said that when Brushy Bill Robert’s died that her Cousin Jesse cried. Her Cousin Jesse took on several aliases. She called him “Uncle Jesse” as a show of respect. When “Brushy Bill Robert’s” wanted his Pardon and the Governor treated it like “a circus”, why would any “imposter” be so adamant about “his Pardon”. I do Hope that he got The Real Pardon and Forgiveness from our Savior, The Lord JESUS Christ.

@billbradley2480 7 месяцев назад

I suspect when the real Billy the Kid heard he was deceased he took the opportunity to relocate then change his life and identity.

@Cazz8203 9 месяцев назад

This was incredibly done. I was glued to the speaker from start to finish. But I gotta say this. Every time I hear you say "McKinney"....I keep thinking I'm hearing Cartman say Kenny 😅😅

@brushybret 9 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@rboyer77 10 месяцев назад

Amazing as aways. Please keep these coming.

@jasonthompson7520 6 месяцев назад

This is the best video I’ve watched on Billy. I’ve watched more than my share and yours is the best laid out and informative I’ve ever watched.

@brushybret 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@scottanderson4587 8 месяцев назад

Mr. Hall, you have officially become one of a handful of people that I would love to bullshit around the campfire with. Those that are currently still above ground. Billy would be my first pick otherwise. Your diligence and matter of fact approach is greatly appreciated by me, and I'm sure, countless others. Thank you so much for what you have given us.

@rodneyaragon 11 месяцев назад

What a fantastic job Brett! Your work is impeccably brilliant as usual...! So much fascinating information digest over and over.

@Blaze-hr2pk 10 месяцев назад

It is true that Brushy Bill was indeed Billy the Kid!

@user-vj8uu2te8m 9 месяцев назад

Ya I went to school with him 😌

@MistaKnifeguy 2 месяца назад

This is such an amazing and well researched piece, thank you for your dedication!

@Mark-fr8il 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Brett Hall. Ive been convinced of Brushy the kid for a while now, but love the history of all this. Amazing research!

@BetterDaysAhead-zj6xu 11 месяцев назад

Awesome Brett! Thanks for doing this video- you do great work 👍🏻

@johnnybratcher9226 11 месяцев назад

Very good to see you're new episode.

@jimmiethomas7194 11 месяцев назад

Great job Brett. Thanks for your diligence in this matter. The truth always comes out and prevails.

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

I appreciate that!

@patrickg.1170 5 месяцев назад

Should be a History Channel Documentary. Great Job bro. You convinced me!

@brushybret 5 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@gwag8410 11 месяцев назад

I was thrilled to see you had posted a video! This is fascinating information, and you have done an excellent job compiling, and presenting it! I look forward to your future work, thank you for posting this..

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

Thank you very much!

@Phildo8 11 месяцев назад

If the kid had his pistol 6inches from you he would’ve shot end of story! He knew he was wanted and I’m sure he knew Pats voice. I refuse to believe Pat was Faster than the kid who already had his gun out cocked and ready but Pat wants ppl to believe he stood up, drew, fired, killed the kid. 😂😂 right

@maxlife9721 9 месяцев назад

Garret was a known liar....

@BEEZYS-WORLD 8 месяцев назад

Everyone can't be on all the time you going to get caught slipping one time especially as many times as Billy escaped death I'm sure at his young age he really did start thinking he was invisible as most of us at that age do he felt safe in ft.sumner around his ppl Pete betrayed billy as Pete did not like Billy and paulita it is Saud Pete did not like Billy ways Pete was law biding God fearing

@Tornado1994 4 месяца назад

@@maxlife9721 That RIGHT. He was known for telling Tall Tales. He didn't kill Billy.

@platzest1329 6 месяцев назад

What a fantastic example of investigative journalism! I hope you're a consultant on the new young guns III movie! This story needs to be told!!

@brushybret 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching.

@nathenerickson7541 10 месяцев назад

Ive read a couple of these books and am truly convinced he wasnt shot that night. Loves the video and will definitely be checking out more!

@robstanton9215 10 месяцев назад

Well done Brett!! Very compelling information. There is so much evidence supporting Brushy Bill along with plain common sense, it’s really hard to dismiss and blindly accept the popular so called recorded history. What did William Henry Roberts have to gain by spinning a yarn like this? How could an old man possibly commit all of these supported details to memory had he not lived them. My Mom is 83 and doesn’t remember what she had for supper yesterday but she can recall in great detail things that happened in her youth.

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching.

@nickg9340 9 месяцев назад

Congrats Brett on nearly 90 thousand views! I hope you get more subs, your channel is underrated. Your content is documentary worthy.

@brushybret 9 месяцев назад

Appreciate that.

@PaulDKidd 7 месяцев назад

@@brushybret My dad was born in 1916 if I remember right. He said that an old man who had been a cowboy out west moved near by where he lived in Kentucky. He said the old cowboy would tell him and other children about life in the old west. He said that Billy The Kid was not killed by Pat Garrett that Pat had killed the wrong man. This was many years before internet or you tube. The old cowboy was supposed to have known Billy and talked to him after Pat was supposed to have killed Billy.

@brushybret 7 месяцев назад

@@PaulDKidd Thanks for sharing, and thanks for watching.

@bethbartlett5692 6 месяцев назад

238K now!

@rodharp972 8 месяцев назад

Brett what if I told you that I can't prove that Pat Garrett by his own words did not kill Billy the Kid. Ok here we go if you go to Pat Garrett book he said that " We approached these houses cautiously, and when within ear shot, heard the sound of voices conversing in Spanish. We concealed ourselves quickly and listened; but the distance was too great to hear words, or even distinguish voices. Soon a man arose from the ground, in full view, but too far away to recognize. He wore a broad-brimmed hat, a dark vest and pants, and was in his shin sleeves. With a few words, which fell like a murmur on our ears, he went to the fence, jumped it, and walked down towards Maxwell's house. Little as we then suspected it, this man was the Kid." Now from here Pat goes into what he was told by someone else what Billy was doing before they got to Maxwells place. Now let's pick back up where Pat start talking about Billy again. "When the Kid, by me unrecognized, left the orchard, I motioned to my companions, and we cautiously retreated a short distance, and, to avoid the persons whom we had heard at the houses, took another route, approaching Maxwell's house from the opposite direction. When we reached the porch in front of the building, I left Poe and McKinney at the end of the porch, about twenty feet from the door of Pete's room, and went in. It was near midnight and Pete was in bed. I walked to the head of the bed and sat down on it, beside him, near the pillow. I asked him as to the whereabouts of the Kid. He said that the Kid had certainly been about, but he did not know whether he had left or not. At that moment a man sprang quickly into the door, looking back, and called twice in Spanish, "Who conies there?" No one replied and he came on in. He was bare headed. From his step I could perceive he was either barefooted or in his stocking-feet, and held a revolver in his right hand and a butcher knife in his left." Now if you read this Pat just describe two different people one person with a hat who hoop the fence with no gun or knife in either hand. So what Billy hoop the fence took off his hat then head down to Maxwells place? Why would Billy do that? And the other person bear headed bear footed with knife in one hand and a 41 in the other.

@jason686361able 3 месяца назад

Garrets book was discredited

@foetaltreborus2017 5 месяцев назад

I find it amazing that SO many staples of history are when looked at in depth crumble ...very interesting vid ..

@brushybret 5 месяцев назад

I agree! Thanks for watching.

@budinfield9746 11 месяцев назад

Brett, I love your logic and appreciate the research you do.

@debravance5428 11 месяцев назад

Awesome job Brett

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 6 месяцев назад

Yah Brett you are a keen story teller and you have great skill and I like those true tales of billy and the different points of view keep up the good work

@micahlangford76 9 месяцев назад

Great Video thanks for making it,Top Notch

@brushybret 9 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it!

@joseywales7930 4 месяца назад

Very interesting. Thank you for your hard work and sharing of your findings.

@brushybret 4 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@tommyfox8041 2 месяца назад

Brett excellent documentary. And I firmly believe the most accurate fantastic work

@brushybret 2 месяца назад

Thanks!

@SumDumGy 7 месяцев назад

I never hear anyone mention what ethnicity Pete Maxwell was but, assuming he was a white man, my big question was always this: Why would a white man enter the bedroom of another white man, after midnight, and ask, “¿Quien es?” Even if both were fluent in Spanish, there’s no reason for this to have occurred. Thank you for being the first person I’ve ever seen also raise this question.

@SP-qo3pd 7 месяцев назад

Judging by the photos of the Maxwells, they're either half mexican or native. Many natives adopted English surnames. For example, one of the men who raised the flag on Iwo Jima was a native man from the southwest by the name of Ira Hayes. Maybe Navaho or Apache.

@SumDumGy 7 месяцев назад

@@SP-qo3pd I’ve never seen any pictures of them, nor heard anyone address their ethnicity. Without context, I always had to include he was a white man with a name like that.

@Alpha_Q_Up 7 месяцев назад

@@SumDumGyThe thing that history overlooks is that 6 months later Paulita Maxwell was married and had a child. There's an image of the son as a teenager and the resemblance to Billy is undeniable. The whole reason Billy was hanging around Fort Sumner was because Paulita was pregnant with his child. Nothing else makes sense especially knowing that Billy knew if caught there'd be no arrest. Billy would have would have entered Pete's room based on the logic he saw him as his "brother in law". I don't think Billy understood how much the Maxwell's wanted him out of Paulita's life

@SumDumGy 7 месяцев назад

@@Alpha_Q_Up Didn’t Paulita maintain that she and Billy were never involved though? That’s what I’ve heard and there’s never been any firsthand contradiction to that so far as I’m aware.

@Alpha_Q_Up 7 месяцев назад

@@SumDumGy You have to keep in mind the social norms of the time. Would you really expect her to say otherwise when she's just married and allegedly had a premature baby? If you can think of another reason why a man who escaped the hangman's noose by deleting not 1 but 2 law enforcement officials, was literally staying in the same "neighborhood" he was from instead of high tailing it to even another State as Federal Laws were a joke or even old Mexico as he was fluent in Spanish I'm all ears

@Phildo8 11 месяцев назад

12:57 Poe said “he had me covered with his 6 shooter fast as lightnin” however garret wants u to believe that he beat the kid even though the kid already had his cocked and ready but he beat the kid by standing up drawing and firing 😂😂

@insertnamehere313 3 месяца назад

Pat does all of that in the pitch dark. Says he knows the kids vioce but doesn't seem to recognize it enough to shoot instantly and instead waits until he get close and waits until Maxwell says that's him. Also I can't believe that Billy was shot in the heart..fell backwards yet according to Poe still had a gun in his right hand and a knife in his left. You get hit in heart. .and you won't still be holding a heavy gun and a knife..you loose grip and function...not keep it.

@Dee_Rod 10 месяцев назад

The thumbnail to the video had: The Maxwell House.. Must've had great coffee there!

@someoneunseen5168 8 месяцев назад

I see what you did there

@1sharingbeinglove756 7 месяцев назад

He's gonna make a video about this in the future. Stay tuned! 😅

@stephanwatson7902 2 месяца назад

I keep rewatching these and it makes me think of more points. To people who think they couldn't fake a death back then, people have successfully faked their deaths in the modern world. This is with cameras everywhere and where people commonly have dozens of pictures of themselves, even online. We, for sure, have ONE picture of Billy the Kid, which there was only a couple copies of and at least one copy was with Billy's friend. It was extraordinarily hard to identify people back then, you would need an eyewitness; or one of these very uncommon pictures. There are people in prison for faking their deaths today, it would be way easier back then... If you believe people can fake their death now, but couldn't do it back then, then you don't live in reality

@ryanbutz5469 3 месяца назад

If he was killed that night youd think their would be a picture of his body .

@JustTheFlecks 2 месяца назад

Fort Sumner is in the middle of nowhere - there was no local photographer.

@Sonderin 2 месяца назад

Allegedly there is one but it's just a covered body... Odd there's no facial confirmation of such an important kill, especially when the guy who supposedly killed him had a picture of him he later included in his book lol... Hmm...

@ryanbutz5469 2 месяца назад

If thats true i still would think their would be some evidence of the killing he was a high profile outlaw @JustTheFlecks

@AnthonySolis-dp1gw Месяц назад

Supposedly there was no photographer but yet the famous photo of Billy the kid was in fort sumner. Don’t believe what your told do your own investigation. Just like a ufo crash in Roswell so many witnesses but there all liars right a bunch of bs.

@AnthonySolis-dp1gw Месяц назад

⁠but yet the famous photo of Billy the kid was in fort sumner. Don’t believe everything they tell you.

@blaze3884 9 месяцев назад

Brett, So much appreciate all the research and time you have put into this. I know Billy would be proud that you are telling facts and not pushing fiction for monetary gain as so many others have done and continue to do. The years of painstaking research you have done is awesome!

@ritamarie4453 10 месяцев назад

Billy the Kid, and Jessie James lived on. I believe both of these stories. The last eldely photo of Jessie James was spot on. I used to look at the Death Photo of James in our History Museum, St Louis, and though it didn't look atal like earlier photos .I was ignorant of Brushy Bill Robert's until this night. I always felt Billy was judged wrong by History. They didn't call it a" War" for no reason. Great research...

@ritamarie4453 10 месяцев назад

The early 30s movie was my favorite, and shows much of the violence that started Lincoln County War. Yes, it's an old flick ...but very cool. Being an elder ..I loved how it ended. I've been a Fine Art researcher for almost 40yrs. This is so exacting. I wanna know whom killed Pat Garrett? Another mystery just waiting for a thorough investigator, such as yourself. Thanku.

@albutler9989 8 месяцев назад

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@justinsmith1310 6 месяцев назад

To me it's the shoulders of both along with the hands and wrists as well that give light to the truth. R.I.P. William H. Bonney

@tiekawaterman5547 10 месяцев назад

Amen my sister looked into it and also believed that Billy wasn't killed in fort Sumner and that he was in fact brushy Bill and that pat had shot the wrong man and covered it up fir one reason or another we felt it was because that it was because they where friends and those that where with him that night didn't even know what billy looked like they took pat at his word that it was billy

@pinkushatejar 11 месяцев назад

Wow, I was just minutes ago looking through this channel for a video about what Brushy Bill said in regards to his initial escape and disappearance, what are the odds.

@dungoncrazy2634 2 месяца назад

Regardless of whether Brushy was Billy or not what I have learned here is that Garrett was a coward with how many times he ambushed ppl in the dark. And he killed the wrong man twice? What a lunatic. And I'm not debating Brushy wasn't Billy as you definitely have some compelling videos here, and the "in his own words" series is really well done.

@frankgormley1296 11 месяцев назад

Fantastic ❤❤ very very interesting.

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

Many thanks

@pamelaakapambo822 7 месяцев назад

Awesome presentation !! "If" only modern newscasters would devote a fraction of the time you have investigating before they report "anything" bravo❤

@brushybret 7 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@EvanStout-h5p Месяц назад

This was very informative. I'm very impressed. I thought there was a great chance brushy bill was Billy the kid, before. Not I'm closer to 100%. Brushy bills account of that night is remarkable. The corroborating evidence in your documentary shows he new a great deal more then he could have ,with out actually being present that night. So either this man was hanging out, and we never heard of him ,or it appears he most likely is Billy the kid. One thing to remember this was in the 1950's and the ability for brushy bill to get this information would be almost impossible at that time. Facts are facts and fiction is fiction. Short and sweet.

@Rambo69710 2 месяца назад

Billy and Pat Garrett split the reward money and went there own way Billy went own having kids and having a good life and died on December 27 1950 age 91

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 5 месяцев назад

Hey Brett I found another photo of brushy bill 1893 Johnson county war W.E. Guthrie and in the same photo are both Garretts nephews

@brushybret 5 месяцев назад

I'll be in touch. Would you be willing to do a phone interview to discuss the pics?

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 5 месяцев назад

@@brushybret yes

@saturnfivetwo4 7 месяцев назад

Best logical researched video yet. Wrong man shot. The reasons to doubt Garrett ,Poe version are too numerous to mention here

@jakejonas7366 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know if brushy bill was the kid and without DNA we’ll probably never know for sure. But it’s a great story and you tell it very well where it’s clear you read a lot of accounts surrounding the Lincoln county wars, the kid, Pat Garrett’s book etc. really enjoyed this listen on my drive today.

@brushybret 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@maxlife9721 9 месяцев назад

For sure Billy was not killed...whether its Brushy or not us a different subject....but listening to this book I believe it is Brushy....

@user-bp6fr8ve7p 7 дней назад

I remember this story being told on the original Unsolved Mysteries series with Robert Stack back in the late 1980s early 1990s and it blew my mind then as much as it does now . Hands down my favorite old west story of all time above all the rest.

@janetsaunders5177 2 месяца назад

As many outlaws as there were that ender up displayed in Cedar Boxes in front of town folk, you'd think that Billy the Kid the most wanted outlaw ever, would definitely be displayed for the town folk to see. Too many questions to be coincidental. Definitely Brushy Bills story adds up.

@tomharwill Месяц назад

What excellent video and worth a listen, more than one.

@brushybret Месяц назад

@@tomharwill Thanks!

@markhill8276 20 дней назад

you are spot on with the truth - thank you

@jamesbackus9345 11 месяцев назад

Brett check out Stoneville Valentine 1884 massacre. The article states Billy McCarthy was there and Garrett was supposed to have killed him in Ft. Sumner in 1881. He must have surived.

@brushybret 11 месяцев назад

Thanks, I'll definitely check it out.

@keepthechange2811 10 месяцев назад

I just checked it out. They was one of the kids aliases for sure. Weird. McCarthy description is alot like the kid.

@jamesbackus9345 10 месяцев назад

I know and Brushy Bill said he was in that area too.

@Dullahan161 7 месяцев назад

Do you know any other sources? I've only seen mentions of a "Billy McCarthy" as a member of his gang in the Stoneville shootout

@Tornado1994 3 месяца назад

@@brushybret Garrett was WELL known for telling tall tales. Its astonishing how much his legend was taken for face value. He didn't kill Billy The Kid. He Shot someone else.

@blaze3884 9 месяцев назад

If you have watched alot of other channels touting their knowledge of Billy/Brushy, you have noticed none have presented facts as Brett has. Instead they give their opinions and alot of hearsay .

@chrismayo4902 8 месяцев назад

Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid’ the facts of Mr Garrets story never added up’ the known fact that he already shot 2 other men he thought were billy was damaging enough’ no one in there right mind would let that happen a 3rd time’ he passed off Barlow as the kid and Poe and others could not argue that fact’ they never saw or met Billy’ Pat most likely thought that Billy would disappear and change his name and live under an alias far enough away to go on with his life’ the chance of that likely since Billy was not your typical cold blooded murdering type outlaw’ in fact he was the law at one point and bad corrupt politics put him on the other side of things’ may he rest in peace that he did not get in his life.

@user-qo8sx1pl1z 13 дней назад

Pat Garrett says the Kid had a pistol in one hand , and butcher knife in the other. yet Garrett ( who was holstered) was able to stand and draw and get the drop on Billy the Kid? I call BS on that " TALE"

@jimmiethomas7194 9 месяцев назад

It is documented through family history and Ancestry

@davidsnyder4362 7 месяцев назад

Thank you, Mr Hall, for your research and reports on the subject of Billy." I have read and listened to a wide range of information on the subject of Billy the Kid by several different people. I have found your research to be the best debated, most logical, and most believable. As history is often the story of events told by those who win or even just survive, it appears possible and maybe probable that Brushy Bill Robert's and Billy the Kid were indeed the same person. Thank you again, and Happy New Years on this January first, two thousand twenty-four.

@brushybret 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching.

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 5 месяцев назад

Eleven days and a wake up and I'm going back to new mexico , I'm retired so research is a good hobby for me

@wgm6 2 месяца назад

Since the late 90s or early 2000s I thought Brushy couldn't be Billy. I think Brushy and Billy are the same person.

@Alpha_Q_Up 7 месяцев назад

I don't believe Garret's story, not to say he didn't shoot Billy but only that he's lying, because he said "i drew my gun". How many cops have their gun holstered when waiting to ambush a fugitive? You have your gun drawn waiting to lock onto your target.

@jason686361able 3 месяца назад

R.I.P Brushy aka The Kid

@patriciawilliamson686 3 месяца назад

I believe that Billy Brushy was Billie the Kid. He knew many facts concerning Billy the Kid that was proved correct.

@johnpierce2095 11 месяцев назад

so if garret shot the wrong man, does billys partener show up anywhere else after that night, if he doesnt that means he was the one shot, but im sure theres records of him after that night

@brushybret 11 месяцев назад

No, he was never seen or mentioned after thar night. A.P. Anaya's great grandson said his horse and belongings were left behind and never claimed. Thanks for watching.

@jason686361able 3 месяца назад

Billy Barlow was the one killed poe said himself you got the wrong guy

@colemartin9077 10 месяцев назад

Man I want to believe this so bad. Billy is my hero. Very well done sir!

@shaunasimpson7689 10 месяцев назад

Who are you..Bobby Brady. Hahaha

@colemartin9077 10 месяцев назад

@@shaunasimpson7689doesn't make sense.

@krisgray8124 8 месяцев назад

@@colemartin9077 actually it was Jesse James that was Bobby's hero. Yes, I am that old.

@TightwadTodd 10 месяцев назад

This is all very compelling but, one of the most convincing Accounts that i read about, was by a woman who was a daughter of one of Billys love interest. She claims she went to Roberts to expose him as an imposter but upon questioning the man , found him to know too many personal and intimate details about her and her mother to be so. She declared him legitimate.

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

I will be covering this in a future video. Thanks for watching.

@TightwadTodd 10 месяцев назад

@@brushybret I was hoping you would say that, because i cant remember the specifics of the instance.

@brittongodman7769 4 месяца назад

At about 15:50 into this posting, while relating Poe's account of what happened, I believe there is a strong psychological ''Tell'' that occurs in his story. He goes into saying he was relieved that Garrett, after a little hesitation, states he is convinced that the man he shot WAS Billy the Kid. Poe talks about ''someone whom we did not want to have been killed''. To me, this statement was added on purpose to convince the reader that they [[ meaning one of the 3 ''Law Enforcement Officers'' present]] had not killed the wrong man. Who would put such a statement in there unless they were mentally trying to cover up something wrong they had done on this night? From a normal psychological standpoint, that makes no sense.

@kirklethbridge4477 5 месяцев назад

if this was presented in a court...no judge would rule against it

@lauriealexander5857 11 месяцев назад

New sub. I look forward to these. Thank you.

@brushybret 11 месяцев назад

Awesome, thank you!

@lauriealexander5857 11 месяцев назад

@@brushybret no problem. I find you very concise and to the point. Enjoyable as well. Very good speaking voice too.

@jacksuiter3782 10 месяцев назад

Brett, I love your documentary on Billy the kid!! And I totally agree I do not believe the kid was killed that night...too much evidence and great research done by you to disprove his killing . Are you going to continue with his life after the ft Sumner shooting?? I hope!! Where his life went after he got away ??? Please continue with your documentary...thanx so much for your awesome research!!! His life after he left that night of the shooting...please continue......and thanx again

@brushybret 10 месяцев назад

I'm currently working on my next three videos. The first one, that I hope to have out sometime later this week or weekend, will be focusing on sightings of Billy the Kid after the shooting at Ft. Sumner. The second one will be the episode written by Dr. Jannay Valdez, that I discussed in my video in Brushy Bill Roberts books and authors, and will be his take on the shooting at Ft. Sumner. In the third video, I will be continuing with Brushy Bill Roberts in his own words, and will be covering his life from the moment immediately following the shooting, to his death in 1950. I plan on doing many more videos on Roberts' claim. Thank you for your continued interest. I really do appreciate it.

@sharonw2475 8 месяцев назад

I don't know who was killed the night of July 14 but I do know that Garrett met his fate much the same way as that person (?) Garrett ambushed that fateful night in 1881. He was bushwacked by his two travelling companions sometime after 1905, just on the outskirts of Las Cruces NM, and since there were no witnesses the jury believed the self defense claim and the men were found not guilty of murder and set free.

@kirklethbridge4477 5 месяцев назад

garrett couldnt say he murdered an innocent man hey. this information u have gathered is gold my friend.... i believe fully that the Kid was brushy bill.

@davidmorgan2366 3 месяца назад

Billy wasn't stupid he didn't die

@BrianLamar-es3my 7 месяцев назад

I don't know about this but they did during the investigation and on all accounts you didn't take it one thing facial features if you look closely at Billy the kid's face he didn't look nothing like the great outlaw

@brushybret 7 месяцев назад

I already did a video on this that includes a facial recognition study conducted by two PhD scientists at the University of Texas-Austin that concluded that Roberts and the man in the Dedrick-Upham Tintype were a statistical match. The study used an internationally recognized facial recognition program, that is the same system used by law enforcement and the methods used in the study were peer-reviewed and published in two scientific journals and the results were verified by two independent arbiters. Thanks for watching. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y8KpyQTdBfk.html

@notcherbane3218 2 дня назад

None of this makes any sense why would Billy the kid go into a darken bedroom if you suspected somebody was after him this implies that nobody could see who's inside this very small room.

@noremacm8066 4 месяца назад

I super appreciate your research. I was a Billy the Kid enthusiast. I had a long family legend about my great-grandpa William Maxwell who grew up on the Maxwell ranch and his connection to Billy the Kid. I was against Brushy Bill but your research is so well done that I am convinced there is something there. I am curious, in all your research did Brushy Bill mention having any children?

@brushybret 4 месяца назад

Roberts never said he had any children, however, a man wrote Morrison claiming to be his son after Alias Billy the Kid was published. I'll be covering this in a future video. Thanks for watching.

@sheiladean9394 7 месяцев назад

@48:39 I have a question. If Garrett had worked in Fort Sumner and for Pete Maxwell, why would he not be recognized by locals and have to ask for directions to Maxwells?

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera Месяц назад

The mc sween widow favored the kid to escape , believe that . Do you think she thought him a devil protecting her and her husband . No and another thing the story siringo heard first hand of how billy helped a sick old man payed his doctor bill just like the good Samaritan story in the Bible and when the old man heard billy was killed he cried . Only billy got away and I found his trail 100% he got away . Died at 90 years old with a kind wife that loved him , exactly what billy the kid deserved . Period .

@UndergroundCC 6 месяцев назад

Great video!!

@brushybret 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@chrismcmaster5964 8 месяцев назад

All these people claiming Brushy wanted fame and fortune to be known as Billy the kid are completely wrong, i personally had never heard of Brushy until 1990 when young guns two came out. As far as i know Brushy never made any money from his claims. He obviously wasn't that famous either as it was 1990 before I had heard of him.

@Dullahan161 7 месяцев назад

He didn't want to tell his story until Morris claimed he could be charged with murder if he didn't seek a pardon

@Tornado1994 3 месяца назад

@@Dullahan161 Brushy Bill in 1949 flat out DENIED that he was Billy The Kid, until Morrison told him, that he was trying to get him pardoned by the Governor of New Mexico for the 1879 Lincoln County Robbery and murder of a Sheriff. When Brushy took off his Shirt, it revealed multiple scars and bullet hole fragments. Brushy then told Morrison that "Yes. I Am..Billy The Kid. I don't want my Wife to know. Its my Youthful Past and I'm ashamed of it. All I want is to clear my name". As if Brushy was Confessing.

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 5 месяцев назад

I think the kid and Barlow were at the dance with celsia and deluvina and when they came back the kid and Barlow put up the horses in the barn and the ladies were first to silvas he told celcia of Garrett in which she told the kid and the ladies went to celsias while the kid and Barlow went to silvas door for food and concealment , the reason celcia showed up at the same time as deluvina at 3 o'clock in the morning

@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 5 месяцев назад

They probably went to maxwells when they heard the news and celcia checked the barn and saw both horses knowing the kid must still be nearby.

@davidswanson5436 9 месяцев назад

The museum in Ft. Sumner is owned by Garret family members. They swear billy was killed that day. And you can buy a postcard.

@craiglittle7367 11 месяцев назад

Why does Maurice G. Felton’s quote state Bonney would “later” be known as Billy the Kid? Bonney wasn’t known as Billy the Kid during his lifetime?

@jason686361able 3 месяца назад

He wasn't known as the kid until the Lincoln County wars

@Tornado1994 3 месяца назад

@@jason686361able William Bonney was a fabricated name and alias. He never existed. Garrett made the name up and claimed that was who Billy The Kid was. Brushy Bill's REAL Government name was William Henry Roberts. Aka BILLY THE KID. Born December 31,1859 in Lincoln County, New Mexico. NOT in NYC, like Garrett claimed.

@tiffanyprichard2197 3 месяца назад

I never thought Billy met the end with Pat Garrett, I never believed Garrett, he wanted the money he didn’t care about the money. I do wish Billy had of been free he was just a young boy surrounded by powerful cruel men for the love of power. I’m sure he would be shocked to know people study and grieve for him. Certainly had I been born in time I would have found my way to pay respects to him and the life he made for himself. I stand with Billy Kindest regards kid that grew up loving Billy the Kid

@jason686361able 3 месяца назад

Theres an old video that I cannot find of brushy on the old video recording with Morrison with his shirt of explaining the wounds and on his thigh they are an exact match to the one billy had gotten

@beardedchicanojaymo7577 2 месяца назад

If it had really been Billy , Garret would’ve been showin off his kill till sunlight the next day

@brianhall1129 3 месяца назад

As good as it be for garret to make a show of the killing and a photo he didnt instead he kept the investigation quiet not once but for all three doesnt anyone find this extremely odd like a downplay cause he shot the wrong guy ????

@the_patriot7 4 месяца назад

I want to ask you a simple question : if he is the real Billy the kid why he have a different last name ? and why he was born in a different city and was in other places ???

@brushybret 4 месяца назад

I will be covering this in a future video on his genealogy. I will say this for now, though, there is no actual evidence that Billy the Kid was born in New York and no evidence that his name was McCarty. Most of the Kid's purported genealogy was simply made up by Pat Garrett's friend and ghostwriter, Ash Upson.

@EricSmith-fp4gq 24 дня назад

Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid

@bobandmaryw4336 10 месяцев назад

I’m gonna repeat that Sederwall has stated that there were two different or blended DNA’s on that bloody “bench ”. I’d like to see you interview Steve and blow this all open. He says , the bench had a large amount of blood on it even down on the legs of the bench. If it was a shotgun to the face to “a Billy” would create a lot of blood. Would it not?