The Real Identity of the Man in Ogerpon's Story.. 

Who do you dudes think the "foreign man" with Ogerpon was? Make sure y'all SHANK that like button!

All fun and games till we find out that the old man looked weird to the villagers cuz he looked futuristic. It's actually Ingo and after hisui he ends up in Kitakami

I have this crackpot theory that the loyal 3 killed the man and dumped his body in the lake on oni mountain. The man had crystals on him that eventually grew from his corpse in the botom of the lake and expanded. Or instead of the loyal 3 dumping him, maybe ogrepon laid his body to rest in the lake like some funerals do.

What a lot of folk don't know about the Man is that he could be a reference when the Portuguese first arrived in Japan. Little historical reference for Ya.

Can you imagine how scary the Ogerpon Trainer’s death was? He was beaten up and badly poisoned. And they disposed of the body. How do you think the Loyal Three got rid of the body? As for how Ogerpon killed the Loyal Three, she was overlevelled.

My thought on the crystal pool at the top of the mountain was that it was caused by the fact that Tera Crystals were brought there by the man, and that they somehow “infected” that pool and they started growing there

A member of Heath’s research team staying in a cave below the crystal lake in order to research it makes sense to me

Made me think of the king from 2000 years ago. Kinda like AZ from X&Y. Lost his empire to the four ruined Pokémon, so he up and went somewhere else in search of a new home with some crystals he could have acquired from the crater, as a keepsake from his homeland . Met ogerpon along the way and settled in kitakami due to the crystals in the pool, the treasure he sought in paldea. Not quite sure why or how he would live that long, but just popped into my head.

The main game talks about how the king was obsessed with treasures right….you think Kieran is an example of that where he’s obsessed over ogrepon and being unable to have it has made me go crazy. The game has an overall theme of finding what is most important to you and I think that’s the connection to the main game.

Maybe ogrepon's original trainer is one of the zombie npcs from the datamine. Carmine said that spirits of the dead were rumored to be seen around the crystal pool, it fits pretty nicely.

If the old theory about Terapagos being some "dream granter" is correct, it could possible be that while in Area Zero, the man wished for a child and that wish was manifested as Ogerpon, who is essentially like a daughter to the man.

I think Ogrepon being from Area Zero with the man is a very interesting idea. The DLC is called the "Hidden Treasure of Area Zero" after all so Area Zero's gonna tie it all together somehow

Ttar I’m pretty sure the part about the man “being ugly” is referencing the townspeople being… racist. It’s not about an injury or him being inhuman, these ancient people wouldn’t be used to seeing foreigners, and especially not foreign Pokémon. They shunned them because of typical xenophobia/racism.

Wasn't there an entry in the scarlet and violet books that mentioned one of the expedition members being incredibly injured by one of the paradox pokemon there? Arvin's Mabostiff iirc was injured by one of the pokemon in area zero which needed all the herbal mysticas to heal. The injury and recovery of Mabostiff is interesting as well because essentially the pokemon was rapidly aging? Decaying? Due to lack of strength, eyesight, etc. And each sandwich recovered a piece of their body. Now, a wacky speculation moment, maybe the foreigner is the zombie man that's been datamined. The expedition member who was injured in area zero by a similar occurrence as Mabostiff and experienced the same sort of decaying process without the help of herba mysticas. It's very much out there but I do think Mabostiff's condition that had an entire storyline to fix is interesting to look at though, it's been a while so maybe my memory isn't exact.

I don't think anything says the man was ugly, just that he looked different from the villagers. It could have been simply a racial difference, as a lot about Kitakami's seems to reference how isolated Japan was for much of its history. It's also pretty uncertain if the man was killed. Like if he was then what happened to his body? Why was the teal mask not taken? Why did Ogerpon potentially go looking for him if he was dead?

The man is Kieran, back in time trying to go back to his home. He even has the ponytail from the end of the Teal Mask.

Foreign man could be Pokémon that talks like a human and could be the Pokémon in Heath's Journal that looks like that Gorilla Pokémon? Maybe?

I genuinely think the Man was the PCs ancestor. That explain why Ogerpon is so quick to trust us

One important thing to note is that in the original momotaro story is that the ogres took with them a princess that momotaro saved, and that in the original momotaro story the animals were evil before they met momotaro. The monkey I think stole Momotaros food, The dog tried to steal the food from the monkey, and the dog also tried to eat the pheasant. Momotaro had to fight ALL of them before they were tame enough to become good. He then took them to save the princess. Since they are inverting the story, it's my personal belief that YOU represent the ogre, and ogrepon might actually be the princess in this story, with Kieran representing momotaro who is trying to take the princess from you. I think this might be why Ogrepon likes you and not Kieran because you remind her of the original "ogre"

I still think the real "villains" of the story are judgement, prejudice, and paranoia. The "Loyal" Three most likely originally stole those masks because [the masks] were really shiny, and it wasn't until they started wearing the masks, they realize that [the masks] could make them powerful & give them what they desire. If anything, the three Pokémon are just corrupted kleptos and/or thieves. *Off Topic: In my headcanon of the "Loyal" Three's personalities, they are basically Pokémon versions of the three outlaws from "The Princess Bride." Okidogi is Fezzik, Fezandipiti is Inigo, and Monkidori is Vizzini.

the man could be the person on Heath's expedition team who was injured but the iron treads or great tusk in area zero

Fun fact- in the Ogre' den, you can find. Black smudge on the floor, where most likely the man got killed by the loyal three

Something I feel needs mentioned that I don't think anyone so far has. As soon as the DLC downloaded, I wanted to see what I could transfer from HOME. Diancie is among the pokemon that can transfer, such I found interesting. Not only that, but it's ridiculously well-detailed. The pokemon model is very polished. I also found hidden Carbink cavern at the Crystal pools in the middle of the DLC map. Pretty much just Carbink there. Skim the perimeter of the springs area. From the edge, look toward the center for a rock with a cave hole in it that's hidden (because the entrance is found where you probably won't see it unless you're standing at the edge) Go in the cavern. It drops down, but if you act quickly and go into the hidden cavern inside the drop-down, you'll find it. I think Diancie has A somewhat significant place in this DLC.

The identity is obvious the Human version of Shrek

Many legendaries in this region which is grouped by 4, number 4 keeps reappearing. Maybe it is because a reason and maybe they are connected? Ogrepon masks 4, Bullies legendary 4, Chinese cursed legendaries 4.

I think the events took place a few centuries before Heath's expedition since people had been trying to go down into Area Zero. The guy could of actually been successful in getting down there found Ogerpon and developed a fatherly instinct towards it and instead of announcing his success decided to leave the region in order to protect Ogerpon.

Do they ever actually say the man brought the Tera Crystals? I thought it just said the mask maker had crystals from a far off land and put them in the masks

if the man is a traveller and researcher who has been to Area Zero...that makes them a parallel for the player (from wherever, moved to Paldea, went to Area Zero on a research mission) so maybe there's something we all have that draws Ogerpon to us. no one has seen Ogerpon in ages, it seems, until we arrive so maybe the Tera Ball or something has drawn Ogerpon to us

Khu said the face on the Tera Hats had something to do with a legendary in these games, but it doesn't really look like the forms of Terapagos we've seen. Kinda looks maybe a bit like Dokutaro though??

I always thought the man looked like an orangoru. it would explain why the vilagers where so unsettled and orangoru is able to apparently catch and train pokemon the head also looks identicle to it

I think AZ is the king from the Paldean story’s because they say that he is obsessed with the treasures like him and his floaet from kalos and that he sealed away his treasures after the war between Kalos and Paldea and he could have some connections to Ogerpon and the masks because the masks are treasures right.

Have you noticed that peach Pokémon plushy doesn’t have a price next to it in the shop. What if its been there the whole time hiding and scouting out?

Your video are really hyping me up for the second DLC a lot! I am lookinf forward to your future videos and I love to see your motivation to connect the dots And in regards to the man, I would imagine the crystal lake is somehow related. Maybe it is the reason he and ogrepon settled down around kitakami, or maybe they are the reason the lake has terra crystals. If we take that face-injury theory and spin it a bit further, maybe it was more like some kind of mutation thanks to the terra crystals (like it happens to the professor-AIs at the end of the game). And if he died, maybe ogrepon buried him up there and over the time his grave became the crystal lake.

Considering how long ago this took place, I dont think that the man and Ogerpon were ugly. Just that they were different, since if he was from Paldea, that means he was a Spanish man in Japan. It makes sense that thered be discrimination, even more if it was 200 years ago

Its me I'm the old man in the story, I did it for the lols

My theory is that it’s AZ. After all, imagine a bunch of Japanese people seeing a severely wrinkled, 8-foot tall white dude 200 years ago? I’d be screaming freak too TBH

thx for keeping us entertained ttar ❤

I’ve been laughing at the Whack Ass Three ever since I realized they all got killed by a Grass-Type

What if it's my boii AZ?

The stained glass windows at Nemona's house. They might be a new Pokémon

My theory is maybe the foreign man is our ancestor and maybe that’s why ogrepon trusted us so easily

I think Ogerpon and the man stayed at Kitakami because Ogerpon is the last of her kind, the others being dead. So when they came to the Crystal Lake and Ogerpon saw her family and friends again the man decided to stay for her well being. I also think the Ghost Characters mentioned in the leftover code from the DLC are one of Arven's parents who give us guidance to the deepest parts of Area 0 and possibly Heath who explains his journey through the strange place.

I like how ogerpon was just confirmed that she has 3 heads to her name

I think it’s Ingo because he say’s after you battle him at the the place where you battle Zizu in Hisui he says he will move on to find more about his past probably running into Ogerpon and going to Kitakami

Just thought about this channel and many other Poketubers from forever ago. I’m so glad to see you’re still making content as when I was a fan 9ish years ago. Keep it up man !

It's us in a legends Kitakami game. Where they explain the timeless forest, explore more bloodmoon variants ( can have different names ) maybe finally a new Gliscor or something And go in depth about the story. Could also be a DLC to a Legends Paldea game.

I has a headcanon where the bloodmoon ursaluna was the "man" with ogerpon. idk why i thought so

Yeah but you forgot to mention that in the scarlet or violet boom it say that during heath expedition one crew member was hurt by a paradox pokemon maybe this was the man and the injury was in his face it was not that bad but he prefer to cover it with a mask

I just had another thought (at 10:09 paused again cause i came up with it) What if... the reason why the crystals in the lake, are there because 'Ogrepon' is there? do we know how long those tera crystals have been there, if they've been there since 'before' Ogrepon arrived, then that's one thing, but if they are there because Ogrepon was there, then that also ties into your theory that Ogrepon came from Area Zero. What if, like Terapagos, what if 'Ogrepon' can create her own tera crystals, perhaps not in the way Terapagos can, but more 'subtly', over time, the crystals emerged and grew naturally This explains why, unlike when normal Pokemon tera they get a crown, but Ogrepon's mask becomes enormous and 'becomes' the tera crystal itself. She may not have dominion over the tera crystals like Terapagos, but she can still create them and thus manipulate them directly, only she does so with her masks because of how special and important they are to her, they are her identity after all, much like how the crystals are terapagos' identity this is so much fun speculating, i might just make my own theory vid

I had a stupid thought. What if the man was Heath. He wore the mask to hide his identity and he had used orgepon as his first terastalized pokemon. He stayed in the cave to either study the crystal pool or maybe he grew the crystals in the pool to further his research without bothering terapagos or on terapagos' orders.

IT could be the opposite that the oni mountain combined with the belief of a seperate momotaro, together with the crysal lake made that belief in the story crystalize it into reality. Their imagination created ogrepon and the 4 bullies. And the man who came with ogrepon and lived with him, didnt come with ogrepon but when he appeared with crystals then the crystals in the crystal lake activated and then the belief of the people came into reality creating ogre pon and the 4 momotaro pokemon. And he stayed with ogrepon only to research the crystals and how the people's created imagination would play out in real life. If life could conquer the imagination or imagination life.

Ogrepon is obviously just a regional burmy

Pokémon Legends: Ogerpon would go HARD!

Imagine if that man was actually Lucius and that he was a member of Heaths expedition team that went to area zero, that would explain the theory that time passed differently while they were down in the crater and once they exited the crater they realised time was moving much slower for them in area zero, so after that he was seeking a home to settle in these new times, would also explain the theory that he went to multiple regions meaning that this is the reason why Lucius has galarian moltres, shiny rayquaza and arboliva and other pokemon we have yet to see in the anime, just one thing thats weird is why was he defeated, because with pokemon that he had it should've been more than enough

You’re such a good story teller. Thank you for your videos

You mentioned the possibility of the man in Ogerpon's backstory having a scar on his face... what if this guy is the same person who was "mortally wounded" by the Paradox Pokémon as described in the Scarlet/Violet Book?

Maybe the man could be an ancestor of us, so maybe that's why orgepon wants to be with us, it's because we resemble a little bit of that foreigner

I don’t think Kieran actually knows who if was his great-great grandpa he just overheard that it was his ancestor from the player characters conversation with his grandpa

These consistent drops this week have all been EXACTLY when im looking for something to watch. Physic Tera Type TTAR!

Do you think the Horizons anime is linked to the games at all? The ancient trainer Lucius, he's revealed to have legendary Pokémon, (Rayquaza and Galarian Moltres) he travels the world and he has long hair

A few seconds from the point that I have marked 1:56 it is so funny how he doesn’t realize that ogrepon with the sheer rage his base stat total went higher up to 1 million

Honestly if we're going down the path of these 2 being part of Heath's Area Zero journey, I get a Paradox Sableye vibe with mythical properties for Ogerpon (like Cyclizar being a legendary in Kor/Miraidon)

Btw AZ doesnt age, Terapagos castle is timeless where time doesnt pass. Maybe it all is connected.

How the hel did those villagers find Ogerpon ugly? She's so freaking adorable. There had to have been something mentally wrong with them.

Hey T-Tar, I’ve been thinking about the whole “Zombies” part of the code for Indigo Disk, and I think I have an idea. Maybe we’re not talking literal, Brain eating zombies, but maybe something more like husks of a human. So maybe Momotaro, upon hearing of the undoing of the mythology around the Loyal Three, will return to Kitakami and do something to brainwash the population into being it’s ‘Zombies.’

In the Teal Mask it actually says the mask maker made several masks, so there could be 3 other masks out there ogrepon could use or maybe only the 4 masks we have right now have terastilization abilities 🤷‍♂️

Honestly I considering they just decided to set up camp in the mountains I’m willing to bet they were homeless. two travelers looking for a place to call home honestly and I don’t think they had any method of travel so they probably just walked. And the reason they were outcast was probably because they were outsiders just wandering in like we did at the beginning of the game and Carmine confronted us

This is the big brain content I sub for. Thank you TTar

I've been wishing someone would talk about this too! Maybe this sounds kind of crazy, especially considering how off this is from the theory in the video, but my first thought when I saw the drawing of the mystery man was that he reminded me of Alder. Alder's come back into the picture with that mysterious picture in Legends: Arceus, so I'm on the alert for him.

About the idea that the man had an injury to his face: what if he had tera shards stuck in his face?

What I think is weird is that it’s never mentioned where the foreign man was after the fight. If he died due to the fight, he’d be laying in the cave. Did he really die? I have a feeling that the 4th Pokémon has something to do with it

An interesting idea I have is what if the mask maker was the one who had the crystals? I think that would just be straight up cool and connect Carmine and Kieran even closer to the plot.

Honestly I think they were both "ugly" from the locals' point of view because Kitakami seems like a pretty isolated place. The stranger didnt look like the Kitakami villagers, so they considered that "ugly" and obviously Ogerpon was a pokemon they'd never seen before as well. You can even see this ethnocentrism is still a thing with some people in the current day since Carmine didn't like you at first purely because you were "an outsider" as she admits toward the end of the Teal Mask.

My random theory is that the man is a paradox version of Heath

What if the player character is a descendant of the man with ogerpon? Could explain why ogerpon quickly grows fond of the player. Knowing GF they wouldn’t go that route.

Now THIS is some SS+ Tier theorizing.

the way they don’t made it clear if he died or not concerns me

I wonder if the rumors of the zombie npcs might bring back this man from the dead, and explain who he was or how he was defeated. It would be also interesting to see, if as you mentioned, maybe the man was able to neutralize the peach pokemon and in that process make them both dissapear (as neother the man dissapearance or the peach are told by the story nor the towns people). Even more imagine if the crystal pool is a result of such battle between the man and the peach pokemon! I cant wait to play the dlc I really enjoy the narrative they made for this game!!

really like your videos man i think youre right about this and the overall theory for the teal mask

Maybe when he was jumped by the loyal three he used one of the masks and Teraslized himself like AI turo did.

What if... This generation is a story of bullying victims? Students are being "bullied" by Team Star In reality Team Star were the ones being bullied Miraidon/Koraidon was danger to the society when he was out of the crater In reality he's left the crater because he was bullied by the toxic Miraidon/Koraidon "alpha" Ogerpon was a monster that raided Kitakami In reality he was misunderstood, as he took revenge on his bullies for beating up his friend So they were the real villains But let's take it further... What if They were bullied by Dokutarou and beaten into loyalty but promised power if they bring him Ogerpon's treasures But the chain of violence doesn't grow further, it branches out We meet the turtle, but it's angry for no reason, another bully? (Or he's just there being bullied and we see him in battle form later when he fights us like Ogerpon to let us prove ourselves before he joins us) No, it turns out he's been puppeteered by the same bully that turned Loyal Three Evil! Dokutarou's heard of Ogre's reaches, so he's manipulated three Pokémon into getting him those He's heard about reaches of Otohime castle, he's manipulated another one to get those too! What if Loyal Three and Terapagos were Poochyena, Aipom, Staraptor and Chewtle that went through the Johto's Legendary Trio, but this time instead of terrible accident it was bullying that killed them? Give it a thought and let me know what do you think about my theory! ;) PS: Kieran could have been gaslit and bullied by his sis, there are some hints for such scenario in their interactions... even if she means we'll in the end she bullies him being toxic by accident as she's awkward in interacting with him and doesn't know any better...

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I immediately thought AZ when I first saw the silhouette, but I doubt it! 😂

0:27 Ok, why does everyone keep saying that the People of the Kitakami Village considered the Man & Ogerpon as Ugly? It just mentioned that the Villagers feared those two, because they looked different from them, which doesn't mean they thought them as ugly, it could just mean they feared them because of having different skin color or body structure (different ≠ ugly). It's like a tall African suddenly appears in some remote rural village of Japan around 400-500 years ago.

A man and his waifu. A tale as old as time

Seeing how excited ttube is talking about this stuff makes me exited to what a real one truly a poketuber goat.

it's likely that Ogrepon like the Main Character because of our tera orb, which is make out of teracrytals and the other two didn't seem to have their at the time while the MC never seems to go anywhere without theirs

I wonder if the man will ever be revealed

I think it’s so raw that ogerpon a grass type beat the loyal three to death

There’s also the fact that kitakami was full of xenophobic people (people who fear the unknown) the loyal three definitely must’ve had dirty tactics since they bullied ogerpon when we went to return the teal mask this leading to our first fight with munkidori

I think one of the zombies will be ogerpon’s trainer

The reason he traveled to kitakami could be because he wanted to investigate the pool, meaning that briar might be a somewhat descendant.

He probably stayed to study the pool and it's connection with Area Zero.

Bruhhh they thought ogrepon was ugly??? He is the cutest legendary imo

The man could be similar to az from kalos after all it was never explained what give az's ultimate weapon the ability to both give and destroy life. Lysandre loosely rebuilds the machine using the power of xerneas or yveltal but their power is only good enough for a single shot that ultimately destroyed the machine by backfiring. Az's story mentions that each setting could be used multiple times during the period of time in which floette was revived. Az's grief and rage at floette's death plus a small sample of these crystals could have powered that machine, but someone would have to have brought them to him from another region.

this is my morning thing now, is like listening to radio while drinking coffee.

What if the man is the team member of Heath's expedition team that was mortally wounded by the Titan Great Tusk. After he was wounded, the rest of the team retreated. Ogerpon could have somehow saved the man and formed a bond with him. The man sees that Ogerpon could use Tera Crystals to terastalize itself and is amazed. After he recovers from his wound, he takes a stash of tera crystals and leaves Area Zero with Ogerpon. Eventually they make it to Kitakami where they try to settle down, but his terrible scars from being mortally wounded and being accompanied by Ogerpon scared the locals. Eventually they meet the mask maker and they use the tera crystal masks for himself and Ogerpon to go to their festival. They decide to settle on Oni mountain because the man figured it would be similar to Area Zero, which is Ogerpons home ,with the tera crystal pool on the mountain. Sadly, tragedy does strike and the man dies, but while he was alive, he was able to figure out that Ogerpon can change its tera forms using it's imagination so he has the 3 masks inspired by different types, and the teal mask, which he wore. That is why the teal mask doesn't change it's typing, its more of a memento of the man who Ogerpon accompanied.

I wonder if the mountains horn falling is an important detail since in the scene we were shown in the story it is still attached, also it shows the mountain without the left horn on the dlc title screen.

Idk why but the man reminds me of the "gorilla" from the violet book that we still haven't seen the pokemon equivalent of.

I think that the crystals are there for other reasons unrelated and the masks were made by the mask maker using the crystals already there. I saw the man and thought of Alder’s ancestor that we also saw in Hisiui portraits