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The Real Problem with StarCraft Broodwar Ladder 

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@ArtosisTV
@ArtosisTV 2 месяца назад
Have you ever tried playing on the ladder?
@41italia
@41italia 2 месяца назад
ladder is too hard, i'm not good enough nor fast enough lol
@moralessanchezoscarelias6412
@moralessanchezoscarelias6412 2 месяца назад
Yeah, 9-pool zergling rush all-in
@stardog2312
@stardog2312 2 месяца назад
I've been pushing C rank with my Terran but even in D rank I either play major smurfs or people with 60 APM. It's not that often I encounter someone at my level, they're either way above me or way below me. I always end up playing a pretty middle of the road style to account for how unpredictable any given game is.
@TimJBucci
@TimJBucci 2 месяца назад
My mineral line got nuked when I was like 10 years old, never played it ever again. Maximum APM is like 60, no idea how the game works.
@langa77777
@langa77777 2 месяца назад
I love this
@benny_the_jet
@benny_the_jet 2 месяца назад
Classic Artosis ruining a good day with some brood war ladder
@crispysocksss
@crispysocksss 2 месяца назад
Imagine if he casted like this on tv 😂
@JJ-Toreddie
@JJ-Toreddie 2 месяца назад
Maybe people who game then wouldn't be such pu33ies then. The modern gaming community makes me sick 🤢 🤮 in fact I quit playing video games for about 6 years for my own sanity
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT 2 месяца назад
*cast
@atdmt8926
@atdmt8926 2 месяца назад
The phil hellmuth of starcraft
@rares0128
@rares0128 2 месяца назад
Arty is so blinded by his hatred toward risk that he completely misses the positives of it. He views risk in general as incarnate evil lmao love it
@ewecue
@ewecue 2 месяца назад
"That guy who just won (the winner) is such a loser." - Artosis (the guy who lost, in other words, the loser of the game) At least Artosis has reached the pinnacle of mental gymnastics because you literally can't spin reality any further than that. Fuck me I love this channel
@SchemingGoldberg
@SchemingGoldberg 2 месяца назад
"The best way to win is to lose." -- Sun "Artosis" Tzu
@VestinVestin
@VestinVestin 2 месяца назад
Look up "scrub mentality". Then realize that this isn't a mindset exclusive to gamers.
@kathorsees
@kathorsees 2 месяца назад
sometimes, I think Arty would become an ascended human being if he picked ANYTHING else as his job other than playing Brood War all day. he was so chill, relaxed, even pleasant before the stream started.
@VestinVestin
@VestinVestin 2 месяца назад
His job has him repeatedly do something that makes him angry while a writhing swarm of onlookers criticizes his every move and posts the most crazy and obscene things they can think of to torture him. It would be fun to watch him, say, play an adventure game, but that wouldn't work when constantly poked out of focus and immersion by a Twitch audience, and doubly so with an audience like that.
@katesperinck1401
@katesperinck1401 2 месяца назад
I can't think of a single RTS content creator off the top of my head that has monetized playing the game as well as Artosis has.
@kurzackd
@kurzackd 2 месяца назад
0:08 -- "I was at the beach ... like... "for ...fискiпg...* " :D
@barti6858
@barti6858 2 месяца назад
Arty I see a huge potential in your natural, sarcastic style commentary on some of the top tier Terran games (like Flash). Could you just do one for the lols please? :)
@miqotesoulia8620
@miqotesoulia8620 2 месяца назад
love the updated end video screen. Good job editor! you rock!
@oefebeele
@oefebeele 2 месяца назад
It's really fun how you choose your worse playing moments to make a video instead all the winning joy as many other players.
@Materialist39
@Materialist39 2 месяца назад
shhh he has kayfabe to maintain
@soldier22881
@soldier22881 2 месяца назад
any idea as to why he would do that?
@SchemingGoldberg
@SchemingGoldberg 2 месяца назад
How else is he going to farm all of the donations from Guys in the Chat? They feed off of his salt and misery.
@thalanoth
@thalanoth 2 месяца назад
I played a ranking deciding patch, first, 1/5... My 102 apm vs 305 apm, TvP; I'll pass on ladder lol
@wildcat8332
@wildcat8332 2 месяца назад
He is like phil hellmuth
@Wasape1323
@Wasape1323 2 месяца назад
He called my opening with CC first, honey!
@wraith_wr
@wraith_wr 2 месяца назад
The ending was priceless. :D
@petar.stoyanov
@petar.stoyanov 2 месяца назад
I remember back in the day the ladder also sucked, so there were leagues like pgtour and wgtour. I even placed bottom B in wgt (as pgt had terrible latency where I live). Aren't there any such custom leagues now and why?
@superoldbaby
@superoldbaby 2 месяца назад
Shield Battery is an alternative to BNET, but whenever Arty plays it, there aren’t many people on
@pigzy9807
@pigzy9807 2 месяца назад
When Artosis said he had been at the beach all day, I thought he was about to announce he is switching to Protoss.
@LounoirRecords
@LounoirRecords 2 месяца назад
i mean playing vs random in sc2 is annoying but in broodwar it's like you want to flip tables all day basically just because in sc2 there haven't been any 4 player maps for years in the 1v1 map pool anymore
@kurzackd
@kurzackd 2 месяца назад
6:55 - lol
@oldbucket2421
@oldbucket2421 2 месяца назад
I played the c&c 3 campaign again recently, and nothing ever moves the way you want it to be.
@Zyzyx442
@Zyzyx442 2 месяца назад
Wow ascension is a fan made version of World of Warcraft that is amazing, at some point can the SCBW community make their own version of SC ladder that is fun and works?
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd 2 месяца назад
how does a terran have time to go to the beach?
@CrusaderGundam
@CrusaderGundam 2 месяца назад
Fortune favours the bold
@Colendro
@Colendro 2 месяца назад
Oh, drop that hipster mug, Artie. Sheesh...
@Hlodowig-y2p
@Hlodowig-y2p 2 месяца назад
Fish and chips? I thought Artosis was vegetarian?
@alexfriedman2152
@alexfriedman2152 2 месяца назад
It's not even all ins, it's smurfing. There are so many 400 apm players in C rank. A lot of A and S rank smurf into B Rank too. Even Snow has a B and A rank acount that he messes around on.
@zarvoxtoral9926
@zarvoxtoral9926 2 месяца назад
Watch Artosis (2400mmr btw) stream a few days ago, he's streaming himself calibrating a fresh account, opponents are all ~1800 B rank
@alexfriedman2152
@alexfriedman2152 2 месяца назад
@@zarvoxtoral9926 Yeah it's a lot of smurfs. Most of the casual players are around D or C rank. The good players that are around Artosis' skill are in low A rank. So for example I'm stuck around B rank even though Skill wise I'm absoluetly around A rank level. Pretty sad actually. Most players are 1 rank lower than their actual skill level. Even Pros usually have 2 or 3 Keys with 3 acccunts each
@WikiED
@WikiED 2 месяца назад
Any decision really carries risks, CC first carries risks just like not going CC first does.
@AimRobot
@AimRobot 2 месяца назад
Use to play Overwatch where smurfs had to buy a copy per smurf account. Now they switched to Overwatch 2 where smurfing is free, but name change cost like 10$
@crimson35124
@crimson35124 2 месяца назад
“I was at the beach all day” is that code for you were offracing as protoss, RT?
@jon1805
@jon1805 2 месяца назад
you can take the kid out of x17, but you can't take the x17 out of the kid.
@WeVisitTravelGuide
@WeVisitTravelGuide 2 месяца назад
😂😂
@notevenbefore
@notevenbefore 2 месяца назад
*I was at the beach the whole day* Said Artosis while looking almost translucently white.
@AyeeSkippy
@AyeeSkippy 2 месяца назад
I'm baffled that Artosis doesn't auto win every game. He could sniff out every build the enemy is going with that schnozer
@Unabonger420
@Unabonger420 2 месяца назад
jacecks.
@soldier22881
@soldier22881 2 месяца назад
if u aint techin to battle cruisers u aint terraning right son
@bendanonfawkes4189
@bendanonfawkes4189 2 месяца назад
ProblemSSSS
@torbaz5930
@torbaz5930 2 месяца назад
GROD!!!
@bladgier
@bladgier 2 месяца назад
If you know who he is and you know what he does against you and he does it every single time then why don't you.... Stay with me, it's not rocket science... Why don't you counter that build "blindly" from the get go? But then if that was to happen and Artosis was to accept this way of life, would he really be Artosis the Terran as we know? I don't think so. You're free to copy this message as an Arto dono spam or in the chat.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 месяца назад
Starcraft, like all RTS games, is inherently luck based. Thats why it can be frustrating. True skillcap games, like Quake Live for instance, removes almost all luck from the game, so it's much easier to progress to your actual rating relative to other players.
@NewBruh-px6xt
@NewBruh-px6xt 2 месяца назад
Exactly man. To prove this, Artosis should set up a series of show matches between his wife, and Scan. Obviously his wife will win a substantial number of games due to how luck based Brood War is! lol the self delusion of Artosis fans is truly fascinating.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 месяца назад
@@NewBruh-px6xt Yea. Absolutely. I mean, if you trained your grandma on how to click a few dozen times on the screen, after a few days, maybe a week, she could easily lay down 3 prox rax outside enemy base, who triple expanded, and she runs in attack move with 12 marines that wasn't scouted and she wins. She wins against ANYONE. Flash, Maru, Seral, it doesnt matter. Cos blind counters exist. And its impossible to scout the entire map every single game. Understand? YOUR GRANDMA CAN BEAT YOU AT STARTCRAFT NEXT WEEK. Even after you've spent your entire fucking life playing the game, learning 20 build orders for each race, tens of thousands of hours gametime, ranked top 10 in your country - DOESNT MATTER! Your GRANDMA ... CAN BEAT YOU ... AT THE GAME. Ergo. Luck is a massive factor in RTS games, particularly in fast paced RTS games like SC. OR TELL ME. Am I lying? Now. Do you think your grandma will ever beat me at Quake Live? I could play her 10,000 times and beat her 50-0 every single time. Why? Cos no luck factor, outside of initial spawn. Quake is like chess. SC 2 is like monopoly. With lots and lots of dice.
@JonasVieth-eo8zq
@JonasVieth-eo8zq 2 месяца назад
one great example of this is how regularly Artosis beats Snow because RNG
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 месяца назад
@@JonasVieth-eo8zq I wrote a great example but it got deleted for some reason :D ;)
@JonasVieth-eo8zq
@JonasVieth-eo8zq 2 месяца назад
@@TheVanillatech it's interesting though, why doesn't arty ever (literally) beat people like scan or snow? Obviously the skill difference shouldn't matter due to Brood War outcomes being entirely luck based. Hmm
@SimakSantana
@SimakSantana 2 месяца назад
the real problem is that its an acnient solved game, there are no new metas there is nothing to do but the same op strategies because anything else u wont win with because its a completely solved game
@iiroaro808
@iiroaro808 2 месяца назад
This is a wild comment when Artosis has literally just been casting dozens of games where Flash returns to the game, tinkers with his builds and immediately causes the meta to shift in response
@Wysaw
@Wysaw 2 месяца назад
This is just.. totally incorrect
@heyimSkyee
@heyimSkyee 2 месяца назад
Meta has evolved more in last 6 years than the first 20 years. Getting different every month
@IroncladAlt
@IroncladAlt 2 месяца назад
i bet you also think melee is a solved game hahaha
@rockdrigo9326
@rockdrigo9326 2 месяца назад
@@iiroaro808exactly, but comments like OPs just highlight how genius Flash is. They have no idea he’s been cooking good.
@AGTaNGrA.
@AGTaNGrA. 2 месяца назад
U dont get it,most people use maphack... its not that he got lucky. And yes u will GET rushed every time u try to CC first... but its not because of ur bad luck,its because ur oponent can literally see where u spawned... and what are u doing.
@lambda6736
@lambda6736 2 месяца назад
Pretty much this. Ladder is a nightmare.
@JonasVieth-eo8zq
@JonasVieth-eo8zq 2 месяца назад
@@lambda6736 never forget. if you are 1.5k mmr, and your opponent is 1.5k mmr, even if opponent is 100% a hacker, they're 50% to win vs you. Otherwise they wouldn't be 1.5k mmr (they would have risen above if they have a >50% win rate vs 1.5k players). Complaining about hackers/cheaters/imbalance is one of the top ways to never improve and become the definition of a scrub gamer
@lambda6736
@lambda6736 2 месяца назад
@@JonasVieth-eo8zq uh...what? Ever heard of 'tossing' games? I don't have time to play anymore, regardless. Treating losses analytically and putting blame where it makes sense is a completely different issue, not sure why you felt the urge to say that. The ladder has cheaters at all ranks. Losing an actual straight up game is a different matter entirely.
@JonasVieth-eo8zq
@JonasVieth-eo8zq 2 месяца назад
@@lambda6736 just saying that people who choose to focus on how unfair the ladder is (cheaters/imbalance/terran underpowered etc) never improve, it's a complete waste of mental resources. For example Artosis is currently streaming and is B rank, he plays for a living for the better part of a decade, but he chooses to focus all his mind on how unfair the world is. People who are 2600+ get there because they focus on improving their play - you'll never hear any top player constantly complaining, they too busy focusing their mind on improving
@lambda6736
@lambda6736 2 месяца назад
@@JonasVieth-eo8zq 1) I agree that taking responsibility for your gameplay is how you get better, its entirely unclear why you keep elaborating. 2) Artosis floats between C and S depending on how bad of a day it is; while I don't actually think the salt is good for improvement, he is a much better player than I ever will be AND he has to make a living. Broodwar is a very knowledge and execution reliant game, it takes pros nearly a decade to go from "amateur" to a consistent professional.
@samuelelder1535
@samuelelder1535 2 месяца назад
Hey artosis ..... you're good at the game thanks for the content shows we're human still 😂x
@Ps.lySaber
@Ps.lySaber 2 месяца назад
Blown up unit summer
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