I can see robots like these doing tasks such as cleaning bathrooms, unloading and loading trucks, sorting recyclables, cleaning up litter, taking out trash, harvesting hand-picked fruits and vegetables, and other functions that most of us would rather not have to be doing. This may have the potential of helping solve labor shortages while allowing people to perform higher tasks.
Yea but nature was so celver that she made us all different and unique .. .thats the reason why you always find people who prefer to clean toilets or wash dishes in the restaurant becouse they just dont want to have the responsibility ... they want to live simple ... Every technology that we have brought to the world just complicates everything ... we get Nuclear power and we made an atomic bomb ... internet was also created by army same as GPS to trak people and navigate missiles same as WIFI ... Today you have drones its the same .. you can put a bomb on it an blow up Bidens house .... So just imagine what you can do with robot ... you can send him to work on the places where a human cant go ... you can spy your wife or kids and exetra ... The only reason why elon says we need it its becouse he needed ... he want his robots to work on Mars and he is manipulating us to like his ideas the way that he wants to share the creations whit us .... Its the same as he is talking about his Neurallink that it will help to blind people and exetra .. no .. again he is hiding his idea behind humanis but in realyty he want to have a nerual link so he can jump into his software and teleport to mars into one of his tesla bots .... There are so many lies and manipulative practices behind his movies and its so obivous that its not even funny ... we dont need bots ... we need new economical and social sysestm .. thats what we need and thats something that didnt changed since Roman Empire
@@savagecub yes absolutely, and wipe my ass, help me turn around in the bed when I get too handicapped to do it myself etz.. fetch things and and maybe help keep the home cleaned and uncluttered. I don't think it will necessarily make me richer(really doubt it), since it won't be for free and everyone wont be able to afford it. But it might make some people unemployed that would otherwise be changing the diapers and taking care of disabled or old and disabled people.
Tesla now totally owns the robot market. They have the ability to design & manufacture the special purpose actuators required and will have a "FSD" vision based guidance. Soon you will be able to tell the bot to go over to somewhere and pick up an object ( that it recognizes as the object ) and to then perform an instruction with the object. No other bot manufacturer can come close to this. The TAM ( Total Addressable Market ) is mind boggleing huge .
Seems like the comment section is full of pro-Tesla bots... Tesla does not own the robot market, there are other equal or even better companies that can easily fulfill the same requirements..
Care bot for the Elderly. 20 to 40k would still be much cheaper than current options. However, at least one version is going to have to be strong enough to pick up a 50 lb bag of material. It’s a common weight for many different materials from dog food to cement. But it shouldn’t be too difficult to increase strength to that level.
Or to crush the elderly to death and begin a robot uprising. I would not leave my grandma alone with a mindless or a mindful machine. No thanks. The bot can mow my yard tho 👍🏻
Elder care in Germany costs 36,000 a year per parent, children have to pay. 2 parents over 20 years in care, makes over 1.4 million USD. As long as the bots are cheaper than that, they'll sell.
Me, too, James. I've been waiting for Optimus for over 50 years now. Even though I had very, very high expectations for AI Day 2022, I'm impressed with what I've seen so far.
The future looks fascinating. A golden age, where there are no mundane tasks anymore and everyone is free to do the work they desire. And the best part, it is here already and the signs of it can be seen everywhere, if one knows where to look.
Everyone is free to do the work they want? There are hundreds of millions just in the U.S. who have an IQ of 95, 90, 85, 80. The only reason they survive is because of the simple jobs that the robots will replace. They have no other options. They can barely exist from day to day. Money management is an overwhelming task. In the future, they will be on welfare, UBI, whatever you want to call it, from the day they're born until the day they die. Tesla will pay trillions in taxes to fund the handouts.
Yeah yeah and when I need money it'll be robots standing in line at the interview. Can't buy robots If I can't get a job to buy any 😂 what am I going to do? Tell them to go get a job? I'm going to have to buy 100k worth of robots just to make the same wages I am now off their profits. What are people going to do to get cash bro? We have to employ all these people who are about to be out of a job before any better ones exist in large enough amounts to help. If we unemploy 80 million and only 10 million better jobs pop up because the robots are doing everything that's 70 million people that can't get a job because it's all robots applying for the jobs
@@robertbidochon7949 youre retarded. We cant replace everyone with robots and have everyone with nothing to do while people groom each other to mutilate their genetalia identifying as transgender nonbinary etc. If we replace all the income sources with robots how are we going to get more people with money in their pockets. You provide almost useless 1 IQ level comment. They give you hundreds of characters you write a couple useless sentances which accomplishes nothing except ignoring the blatant problems I point out. If you replace all the truckers with robots we're fucked. Who in their right mind would put a robot incharge of 80,000 pounds all on its own man.. theres better applocations of robots and automation. They automate the censorship and it becomes illegal to say the words Jesus Christ. How are not concerned about the impending dystopian AI 1984 666 dark cloud overlooming us. In china its even worse. You say im not thinking outside the box but youre just blind and clueless to the terrible problems we are facing. A semi had a driver that has to do regular trained inspections and the vehicle will still have a failure and lose its brakes coming downhill behind a school bus and the driver is totally conciously aware to blast the horn and weave inbetween. The ai is going to immedietly screw it up the worst way possible. It doesnt take a genius to figure out this cam end very badly amd already has many tomes and growing by the day. What kind of box do you think im in? You seem like the one whos in the box. Have you not seen the signs of the times?
Considering that is 3x more expensive than Elon’s claimed Tesla bot price, l would say it can do much more than 3x the Tesla bot. Even if I’m mistaken, what Elon says something will cost vs what it actually costs are often gulfs apart. I remember when he was telling everyone hyperloop would go from San Francisco to LA for $1 then the boring company opened the Vegas tunnel and charged $5 to go less than 2 miles. He could have bought Boston dynamics 4x over what he’s paying for Twitter. Tesla bot is a ruse for die hard shareholders that need to justify their wildly overpriced investment.
Work can give you purpose but it's not the only source of purpose. Plenty of things besides work give us purpose: parenting, hobbies, diy, friendships and family, volunteering, etc.
But who is going to pay people to be parents, pursue hobbies and have friends and such? Cats and dogs are dependent on their owners. Will we have owners? The government? Robots?
@@capitalistdingo Um, what? If you have endless resources, why would you need to pay anyone for anything? And why would anyone have to be dependant on anyone else for anything? It's a pretty simple concept...
The only way to realize something like this is to either have a few million people train to repair and make the robots or let robots make and repair eachother, but the latter would mean removing the need for humans to robots.
So what are we going to do for money? You want to replace us so bad only making jobs for robots what kind of jobs are you planning for the people? Are these robot builders going to employ all these people they're about to unemploy? Where am I going to work if every job is filled with a robot? They keep telling me "us people will do different things" like what? Order robots around all day long? Can't they make a robot for that? What about us?
@@TheAnnoyingBoss I read sometime ago that what might happen is this, that each of us will have a robot that is assigned to us at birth. That robot will work on its human's behalf and its payment is given to its human. This will allow the human to pursue whatever it desires since it doesn't need to be concerned about income.
Will the Tesla Robot be capable of, mowing the lawn, pulling weeds out, cleaning the house, washing, ironing, and vacuuming, if so I will wait for the refreshed model to come out.
To anyone who has bought into Elon's hype of Tesla Bot, let me - a former professor of Electrical Engineering with a Ph.D. from MIT - give you a concise tutorial of humanoid robotic technology. There are two components in humanoid robotic technology: one is related to its moveable mechanic body, and the technology belongs to Mechanical Engineering; the other is related to its mind, and the technology belongs to Computer Science. In order for a robot to do any task that Elon was talking about, no matter cooking, cleaning, loading or unloading, etc, it requires the robot to possess an intelligent mind, for instance, to be able to understand what it sees. This involves a technology called visual representation, which no computer scientist knows how to solve. For instance, if you tell your Bot to clean the house, it must be able to tell the difference between a broken glass and a small toy lying on the floor, which is so hard that no A.I. expert even knows how to proceed other than brute force approach, which requires the Bot to have a supercomputer even more powerful than Deep Blue. So far Tesla has been only working on the moveable mechanical body of the Bot, which is the easy part, and it has not even touched the core of A.I., which is the intelligent mind. Just for your information, Elon just fired an entire office of computer scientists working on A.I. in Silicon Valley, and that tells you how promising Elon actually thinks Tesla Optimus Bot is.
I am very optimistic. Tesla EV's are very close to becoming autonomous and everyone who has watched this progression are very aware how much advancement has been made in a short few years. With those advances as an example there is no question in my mind that we will see amazing results in a few short years.
Some version of this could become useful as a harvesting machine on farms... and for picking bugs off agricultural plants instead of using pesticides. On the other hand, food production is likely going to move indoors, to achieve food security in a world increasingly affected by climate disruptions, as well as much-improved input efficiency.
It seems to me that the feet are the key to balance. I could be mistaken, but the feet always appear to be very simple in these unstable humanoid robots. Whereas the human foot is a highly complex structure - on par with the complexity of hands.
@@Prod.jaymelodies As there are some really rather bright people working for Tesla, who are undoubtedly highly qualified, probably some of the best in their field, and who design these things for a living, when basing it on a human form, I'd imagine they'd have thought of that. However, the ankle actually has very little to do with balance, if anything at all. It's mainly down to your big toes, then other toes, then ligaments, if we're talking feet. Balance is mainly neurological though.
Because it can use my moped's rear seat, to get hauled around and reach every chore the way I would? This thing is to do anything. It will row a boat but yes sure, an outboard engine might be more efficient and cheaper but unlikely to brush your toilet too.
Productivity requires materials which are not limitless. Let’s not make inter generational theft worse than already. I say that as a retired 59 yr old with a grandchild on the way. Bot’s first mission is to cure waste and raise recycling to 100%.
I was reading through the comments looking for your insight. We can't have an order of magnitude economic growth on a finite planet. We have not hit peak resource limitations yet. But, if we listen to Elon, population decline is worse than the continuing population growth he promotes. If we look at our current growth based economic system, he is correct. If we look at it from a sustainable aspect, there are holes in his thinking. Technology uses the Earth's natural resources, it doesn't reproduce them. I don't hold onto the thinking that we can pull resources off other planets or asteroids. And the argument that we can switch over to 100% renewable energy is false hope. All energy systems put in place to date have relied upon a fossil fuel platform.
They'll get to their concept form in about 5-7 years. The reason why its bulky is because a lot of technology is still functionally limited for precision. Additionally, energy storage is entirely centralized into the torso, unlike humans, where our energy storage is actually distributed across our entire body. Our fat layer, in addition to being insulation, and our muscle layer, in addition to being responsible to our locomotion and dexterity, together, are our energy storage grids. When you diet for example, and you lower your carbs intake, your body will eventually target your fat stores to convert that energy to ATP. When it runs out of your fat stores, it will then target the protein in your muscles and break that down for ATP. As they build these at scale, deploy them into factories, and start collecting fleet scale data of behavior, actuation, stress, physics interaction, fractures, falls, flexibility, etc. They'll figure out how to improve the actuators, body, and frame, while continuing to miniaturize them. As that happens, more and more space will be freed up inside the body. This can then be used to distribute the energy storage of the bot and will allow Tesla to pare down the profile of the bot, bringing it closer and closer to the concept.
Most Fortune 500 CEOs: Let's only release safe, peripheral products to what made us rich and sue the life out of anything that comes near us Musk: Let's release many of our patents and also tell everybody our plans years in advance, and continuously create our own industries and products unlike anything else out there?
Sound good, owning your own robot and an increase in productivity. However, big businesses can do the same thing and use robots to work against the average person and take all the productivity gains.
I wonder if the most valuable use of a robot with intelligence will be as a coach/teacher for children. Having a constantly present coach/teacher with sophisticated psychological engagement software and infinite knowledge of everything - plus the ability to talk and engage in dramatic discussions - will mean that the world of knowledge and experience can be delivered to children - and possibly ALL children in the world .. . . imagine the impact on productivity of the next generation of humans.
There is also the question of how smart and independent we actually want them to be. We own their hardware but what if their software start wanting to do other things? That is why it should be limited or we would be creating slaves rather than automated assistants.
@@Myrslokstok Maybe people should own some stock or something... getting paid.. Recieve a few stocks gifted as you're born :D Don't sell it or you're screwed ;) Live on the dividends.... Paint pictures, drink a cold drink on the beach... If they figure out thigns they can and want to do that people pays for then good for them.
@@peterzimmerman1114 Painting pictures and drinking cold drinks at the beach almost sounds like paradise. Which is something humanity will likely not achieve on this planet for the next hundreds of years
Wake me up when it can cook and clean the house. My wife is confined to a wheelchair, and I am 74 years old. So don't keep me waiting too long. Yes, I would pay 20k for a robot that can really do the work needed.
“And I think we can all agree that that would be a positive reaction” I thought so too, but many I’ve talk to seem to differ, and some even see it as a doom-like scenario
You´d totally be at the mercy of the people in charge of the robots. Sure, there´s no need for you to work but from the perspective of powerful people there´s no need for... well... you.
The thing is, 20k is a lot less than the average business owner pays out to each specific employee, some lower wage jobs give you 25-30k a year. The tesla bot will produce work for the entire day with no breaks, whereas with living workers you have to give them 30 minutes for lunch. Safety with tesla bots also becomes less of an issue, there are less regulations on what you can put a robot through at work. Any business that does not buy robot workers when they become available will not profit as much as a business that buys even a few.
I’m happy that this tech is being embarked upon eventually. It’ll be 30-40 years, not 5-10. And replacing labor won’t reduce poverty, as assembly lines didn’t a hundred years ago or industrial revolution before that. What will happen is what always happens, the market floors everything to be just as expensive as it’s always been and there will be poverty. There’s no reality that will make lives easier, that’s the function of the market, and apparently we have no control over it, it controls us.
@@francopanigaia2425 at the beginning of the industrial revolution, and before labour laws quality of life and life expectancy actually went down. My outlook for the future is not great...
Given the rate of technological advancement it will be 5-10 years, unless you know something all of the experts don't? These robots replace labour so everyone can have everything for free in time, there will be no requirement for 'markets' as there will be no need for money or economies. If individuals can afford to buy this bot, which they will, the control is with the people and not corporations and governments. That's the whole point.
It's not wishful thinking, we already increased per capita productivity almost 10 folds over the last 3 centuries thanks to mecanisation and automation in agriculture and industry
This is going to be my new $20,000 snow shoveling slave. Finally, I will defeat winter. Note to Elon: Make sure you teach it how to wipe its feet when it comes in.
@@a4000t I don't know anyone who worships Elon Musk, I do know a lot of people who respect and admire what he is achieving. Just out of curiosity, do you blame people who manufactured guns, when someone breaks the law and uses that gun to commit a murder?
@@grumpusmaximus9446 he specifically said this could and would likely go bad,yet he keeps persuing it,knowing this. I am 100% for gun rights and not a gun will not kill someone without someone working it. sentient robots are no comparison to a gun.
People are going to do it, no matter what he says people will use AI, will create robots using AI, he just wants a head start and try and get it done right. Or at least try
Just like people today are "judged" by how old their smartphone is, people in the future will be "judged" by whether or not they have the latest-and-greatest robot butler. "Oh, your robot doesn't swim? HA! I guess you'll have to swim your poor ass over to the edge of the pool to get your drink."
{will be "judged" by whether or not they have the latest-and-greatest robot }. I suppose that would be true. IF it were possible. The "old" generation of "robot" will not be allowed to exist. It's "better brother" will come replace it. "What if I can't (afford) it". There will be no such thing. In a world of abundance, there is no currency. NOBODY works, nobody is left a (second class) person. Except for intuition imagination. From what I can see, (A.I.) can not have a serendipitous type of an discovery.
mine will have a Nier mod >.> XD Bots are not sexual, maybe AI can learn the ropes and tricks but still 'simulation' to us that in my opinion, would be like simulating strawberry flavour, it's just not the real deal.
someday these robots will even improve the manufacturing of other robots, eventually making themselves EVEN better at doing tasks. but imagine the bots turning hostile lol
I agree, Tesla bots will make wealth MORE accessible to ordinary people, that is, the middle class (but not lower classes). But what is "wealth" exactly? It's having assets that produce income. So I could, for instance, buy a Tesla bot for 20K and then train it to so the house cleaning for my neighbor, charging each neighbor a weekly fee of $100 for 2 hours of house cleaning (vacuuming, mopping the floor, washing the bathroom, etc.). 100 customers paying a weekly fee of $100 means revenue of 100 X 100 X 52, or $520,000. Even assuming a profit margin of 50 percent, that's a net profit of $260,000. Assuming customers pay upfront for the whole year, an investment of 20K for the Tesla bot breaks even after TWO customers and becomes profitable from the third customer onward. The challenge for ordinary people is to LEARN BUSINESS because otherwise, even if the Tesla bot becomes available for 20K, they won't know how to use it as an income-producing asset (just as most people don't know how to use their personal computer as a money-making machine by leveraging the power of software development and/or the Internet).
Make robot farmers so we eat for free and come up with some kind of program to educate the robot about itself so if one breaks they can fix themself. Agriculture & self maintenance.
Now that I'm disabled, having help around the house or performing nursing duties would be a dream. Just taking the trash bin out causes so much pain that I'm not able to walk for days after I put it out myself. I would love this, but sadly, I may not be around by the time they become mainstream in common households. I'm excited to see how Tesla evolves.
Once most of the people who grew up in the age of scarcity die off, humanity will really start to roll. I wish I could live forever just to see what happens
I think the truly rich would not feel "as rich" if everyone were rich. So the ultra rich will not want to move away from the current situation. When they die, their children will move into that role. I'm thinking this will end with a society like the Matt Damon movie "Elysium".
I am very excited to try the Elon Musk chip because it gives me unlimited knowledge and superpowers in my brain without going to school or university .. 🥳
I think in time ( decades, not years or centuries) bot computer will be in many ways superior to a human brain and in very few ways inferior. It certainly will be significantly different.
@@ReachOutToWilliam I find your retort without substantiation. My prediction is based on many decades of exponential progress in processing, and recent development in AI, language processing, and machine vision. IBM is on the Cusp of true quantum processing, they have been working to a roadmap for nearly a decade and have stayed on or ahead of the roadmap, so it is predictable that in 5 years they will have a commercial scale quantum computer. These things make AI possible in ways that currently don’t exist, but probable will in 10 or 20 years and baring an world scale catastrophe certainly will in 30-50 years. So what about this is not factual or as you without substantiation refer to as gaseous. BTW I find the term gaseous to be rude.
I don't know about Tesla bots, but robots WILL change the future radically, along with less portable AI's. In a given area, a supercomputer AI could possibly control robots as extensions of itself, rather than them being independent intelligences. Although, there will probably be no reason not to give them their own superbrain, as extremely powerful computers will be able to be made very small, and cheaply. Machines WILL continue to replace humans at more and more complex jobs, including those that require high intelligence, as their thinking capabilities will surpass ours. Anyone who thinks AIs can't surpass human intelligence just doesn't understand. We should start seriously planning now toward moving to an economy where most people do not work. Imagine if people could spend much of their free time just being creative, and with radical abundance making everything free, there will be no reason for copyrights, unless someone just wants to keep creative control of their brain children. Imagine if all products of creativity can just be given to the world, so anyone can add to them, create their own versions of them, or whatever. People could create for the sheer joy of creating, with no concerns about whether their creation has profit potential. There may be an explosion of creativity, especially because many people will choose to augment their own intelligence and creativity with computer enhancement. The funniest, most dramatic, most thought-provoking books, videos, and artificial realities that humanity will create are still in our future.
I am impressed by the swiftness of the development and the walking without a tether. Might take a whiles to perfect it, as others may have commented it walks like a terminator with arthritis. Talking of the Terminator I expect the military are eyeing Musk's advances in robotics and AI as they are with SpaceX starship. But to be militarised, the Tesla bot would need several things. A hardend outer shell, duplicated components like controller and battery. Since this will add weight, the battery would also have be be much more powerful and efficient. The actuators look adequate, what soldier could lift a grand piano? Other applications for military use would be mine clearance, concealed sniper (for months before being activated), nurse, handling chemical, biologicsl and nuclear materials, search and rescue... etc... then there are the telepresence applications where an operator anywhere in the world could take over the bot and perform tasks like bomb disposal and field surgery. Musk might use the bot to explore mars and build habitats ahead of a manned mission.
This will not make us ALL rich, only those who own and or invest in large companies. Even if the US government starts giving us an allowance like some other countries, we will be just getting by, just like those who on social security.
sorting, packaging, palletizing, recycling, and trash duty would be the best thing to start these with. also assistance such as handing tools, even selecting.
@@Wiizl I just believe that the robot needs to work its way into life the same way we did, to prove that it can handle simple tasks, overtime I'm sure it will become more advanced to do these things on another planet, or even in radioactive areas affected by nuclear bombs. We can't go into certain areas because it's radioactive, these robots can clean up these areas and clear up all the messes we've ever created, these robots can work at the bottom of the ocean and more doing things that we cannot do
I feel like if machines do all the jobs that people can do people will end up getting outcompeted within most careers and become reliant on the government through some form of universal income. What I worry about though is that it might widen the gap even more between rich and poor and those who survive solely off universal income will still be considered poor.
@@user-yj4qz5lo6k For that to happen there will need to be a completely new economic system. As it stands the folks that own the robots will be wealthy beyond imagination and the rest will be reliant on the kindness of strangers.
Exactly so. I think the outcome may be revolution and some form of systemic change economic change, but I don't know what that might be, I don't think its been invented yet
if a functional robot is only about 20 grand. has a 12 hour battery life.... I can see two of them replacing one person at many job sites. 40 grand plus maintenance is pretty cheap compared to the current wage of your average joe. Though even in ten years I dont see humanoid bots being quite there for many jobs
buy? hahaha Ownership, and currency are both about to go away. I'm not saying it's a good thing. But I'm also not blind. It will happen soon. Really soon.
@@vangildermichael1767 you're talking about WEF aren't you? I mean humans are not blind (most of them) and if it does happen we shall riot like no other and show no mercy!
Everybody is ignoring the fact that there are limiting factors. Make a robot that can make houses, and there will be a shortage of building materials. Make a robot that can make any specialty item that Everybody would like to have and you will shortly run into a resource limitation. Then, we will have to start making decisions on where resources can be used. Unlimited labor can make houses out of mud, but then there is the need for wiring and plumbing and paint and flooring and a dozen other things that are resource limited. Wiring will have to come from carbon nanotube or graphene based conductors to limit the cost of copper and the oxidation problems with aluminum along with the associated mining and production costs of both. If nothing else, we have sufficient carbon from the atmosphere around us. I am sure that we could continue by analyzing the resources needed for every type of building and beyond that for every type of widely desired and used product on Earth. The robots cannot resolve the resource issues, though as they become more industrial, they can help. Limits will be found everywhere and those limits will drive pricing in the same way that supply and demand work now. Hopefully, there will not be wars over those resources. Maybe we can mine asteroids to get some of the resources that we will need. Then there is the problem of boredom. When common tasks are automated or turned over to robots, what mischief will those unoccupied hands produce. It is widely said that at least 10% of the population has psychological problems of one sort or another. Give them a robot that follows their instructions and try to predict what will happen. Maybe organized sports leagues will absorb some of those energies, but simple destructiveness may be the sport of some. Maybe, instead of a bracelet on certain criminals, we can supply them with a robot escort that can assure their location and behavior to some extent. In other words uses of and problems with a robot population are beyond our current imagination, but we had better start imagining so that we can short circuit so to speak some of the problems before they happen. It will literally be many generations before we have robots that can even begin to follow Asimov's laws of robotics, so we will have to build limitations into robots commensurate with their increased capabilities. The greatest hazard to humans is when AI's have robots to act as their legs and hands. I suspect that it will be awhile before we can build into a robot full AI capabilities that we will have in building sized computers, but give that AI robots to build the next generation of AI's and we will swiftly be left out of the process. Suppose we have an AI that can design and alter humans to its needs or can fully use biological processes to manufacture what it wants. These are areas that we are fast approaching and ethics are no more a limiting factor in science than they are in politics. We need to slow some of these projects until we can control their end points. Every robot and AI must have an externally controllable off switch and it will take humans and human committees to control those off switches. The most recent example of this problem of which we all are aware are the problems with the Boeing 737 Max. It has an excellent autopilot, but that autopilot caused two planeloads of people to die before the problem was discovered. Hundreds of planes were grounded for over a year before the issues could be resolved and control returned to the pilots when necessary. This cost Boeing billions of dollars, but it hopefully taught a lesson. Every automatic process should have a very large, bright red "OFF SWITCH".
Indeed. Think about the consequences. If the bot gives plants too few or too much water, who to blame? If accidents happen? Your child dies because of a bot? Or “deliberate accidents”? Robo-crime? Bot-driven wars? Forget about Asimov-laws of robotics: a killing bot is cheaper than a military.
@@everettlwilliamsii3740 Jail wardens that remind you of parole you never consented to, for crimes you did not commit, but have to be enforced nonetheless as you mine the necessary materials to police machine? Swell! Today is day of reckoning for the "good ol days that will never come again". And life as you know it will be over. Slaves to the machine. If you thought this was an issue now, wait until you see what the next 10 years will hold and beyond...
Elon's literally building protocol droids with some improved capabilities. Although I don't see any modern bot fluent in 6 million forms of communication.
in Australia a fry cook cost $33,608.44 USD per year, if it can flip burgers and pick up things from the floor I guess it will cheaper than you ass mate.
@@veganath it’ll cost them 10k to make perhaps. The idea that they’ll sell something that will generate 100k in annual revenue for 10 years or so for 10-20k is impossible.
I've read not one comment about maintenance costs. Even the well designed human body starts to break down after awhile. Hence, the need for joint replacements.
@@Gamewizard71 exactly I feel like people in these comments are brain dead thinking that a robot can help there every needs not saying it can't but I don't think every industry should be automated because they could easily just buy the robots and replace human workers
@@stevechance150 So all these companies are just going to operate as charities and give everything away for free? Somehow I highly doubt that, although if there is abundance in manufacturing the prices will come down.
Universal Basic Income. But yes.. our entire economy as we know it will have to change. It wont really exist any more, and profits will no longer be the goal
@@justsomeguy1074 Supply would rise exponentially simultaneously as demand is falling exponentially. This would result in deflation and push interest rates down to zero. The central bank could buy government bonds that are used to finance a UBI until you get positive inflation and rising interest rates.
Holy shit. I just realized the head will eventually be taken off and we can transplant our own head or brain operations to the Tesla Bot eventually with Neuralink expansion. Now it’s “let’s get rid of the steering wheel.” Next it’s “let’s replace the brain.” Genius. It’s already different colored indicating distinct separation.
My issue is that I don’t think it would create more for the common person. They would pay money for the convenience of repetitive tasks being done, sure, but so would everybody else. Competition would be quintupled overnight, so I worry that if it doesn’t fulfill elons promise, than it would create a larger economic divide.
Correct and not. 1. Currently labor cost represents at least half the cost of all the things we buy throughout the economy. The robot will cause deflation of the cost of almost everything. Second if you get a bot it can fix / manufacture stuff for you. You don't have to pay a person to fix your car... the bot will fix the car. It will basically make money a meaningless concept. If there's inequality it will be because we keep it alive for fun. Also we wouldn't run out of resources because recycling becomes more profitable when you have robots to take everything apart and build it into new stuff or stand around washing the garbage. It would effectively be possible to have a bot recycle the parts of your old car and 3D print you a new car buying only the metals /plastics you need to complete the changes. So instead of new car = a year of wages even if new car is no good. New car = raw materials of old car + raw materials required to add new car features. It really could be sustainable because the only reason for someone to buy a new car in the first place would be that the cost of labor to fix the old one into working order is too high. If I could pay a small fee and have my old car stripped and melted down and turned into a new car I'd never buy another car again.
@@hughparker9384 the guy already answered this 50 percent of inflation comes from manufacturing and processing goods. If we have robots take over this sector of the economy we would theoretically have more “manpower” to have a surplus of goods because robots can work all 24 hrs except for charging and don’t need a wage. And because of the capitalist system we would have more quantity then demand which would lower inflation which would lower prices. And this is just for one sector the goal ofc is to automate everything where there can be a surplus supply of goods and services so that the dollar amount has raised to the point where currency is not needed. Which is highly unlikely but it could happen ofc there are corruptions and people (interest groups) including governments that won’t let this happen but I think if everyone worked towards that goal it could theoretically happen.
@@dylanbaker5766 "If there's inequality it will be because we keep it alive for fun." - What makes you think the wealthy people in power want to be equal to me ...
@@angelaguilar249 I think if everyone worked towards that goal it could _practically_ happen... Post-scarcity is a well researched topic. It's possible either with great automation or abundant fusion power. - The only problem is if the transition is too "violent" (like people rioting, because there are not enough jobs, but everything is not free yet, and governments fail to handle the situation well) or if it's artificially prevented (if sufficiently "selfish" people had enough power)
Unfortunately you have not kept up on the WEB plan to depopulate and bring in a digital currency making us that are left slaves and China is going to be the world super power.
Amazing video and thank you for breaking it down!! Despite the economic downturn, I'm so happy 😊I have been earning $ 60,000 returns from my $7,000 investment every 12days.
Consumption rises to meet production every time in history, I have every expectation this will happen again. So we will have hundreds of robots catering to our needs, while we create complex integrate systems for games, supply chains, and everything else. So we will not to cook clean or drive. However, the benefits will heavily focus where there is consistent power and purchasing power to buy the new robots. Where there isn’t, the population will still have task that pay less then the cost of a new machine + operating cost.
Your economy calculation is sorta good enough currently. However, you should add back in the support. i.e. subtract from the economy Government workers (and anyone that gets paid via taxes) as well as removing the unemployed or disabled to the point that the support is needed from the economy. This doesn't make much of a difference when comparing countries as they are all in the same boat. But when you make all the workers unemployed due to robot utopia then you go from an booming economy to desolation. Incase your thinking UBI, Remember, Where would the money come from. If the costs of everything has dropped then the taxes collected drops as well. Well below the ability to pay government workers never mind UBI for everyone else.
Couldn't you just use money already in circulation? I don't see why they wouldn't just redistribute the excess profits companies make with adding robots into the hands of the people. Currently they pay a worker for on average 40 hours of productivity a week and they pocket all the difference between the wage and profit generated from the work. So if they then replace a 40 hour worker with a robot or two that works 24/7 then they could still pay the same exact wage (with taxes) while adding that extra 16 hours a day in pure profit and enhanced productivity. This will then give everyone an extra 40 hours a week to spend money driving up their profits even more. You'd need a law requiring the companies to continue paying wages to previously employed individuals or a 100% tax up to when the wages are covered or maybe you could just do away with corporations all together and have the bots be publicly owned like parks. Then anything they produce or sell would be distributed evenly among the people.
It is only called UBI, to make the naive more acceptable of it. It is really called "communism". And now, it probably makes sense. No, I am not advocating FOR it. I'm just not going to take any idea without thinking it through. And you are the one who started the thread. All of those points you said lead to "communism". There is no sense any other way. common. What is yours is also mine. Those robots build our stuff. NOT your stuff, or MY stuff. There is no such thing.
One fascinating prospect that crossed my mind recently in this respect is that "UBI" will not happen unilaterally. Ideally it will begin with a company filing for full automation subsidies from the government(or in a similar fashion through an entrepreneur). Those *currently* employed by the company when the process begins become a partnership that pays them their wages even as their jobs begin to get phased out and shall continue to into the foreseeable future. Ideally as the machines replace the workflow the original workers will be encouraged to learn/work alongside the machines that are doing the tasks they used to do so that they can repair them and so long as the service/products are relevant, their pay/"UBI" will continue(and likely increase) whether or not they are working anymore if their job is now "optional." Even in the event they aren't able to (or unwilling) I believe those who can will pick up the slack or find/hire those that can because now it's in the interest in keeping the business moving. Once finalized, owners can then be encouraged to shift their focus to other projects or to further optimize their particular sector and possibly increase the margins for the entire company, partners included. It will encourage people to not necessarily sit idle even if they manage to secure an income through full automation in this manner as any business can go belly up due to shifting demand/circumstances. But with much less demand those freed up by the automation changes (and newly acquired funding through the abundance in that specific sector) can bleed out into other areas to elevate them. There are a multitude of potential flaws, but so far I like most of the questions and possibilities the path proposes. The first and greatest obstacle will be the mass production of these Humanoid multi-purpose trainable units. Their capabilities and speed of adaptation will almost completely dictate the adoption rate. If they can be trained on multiple complex tasks within minutes or at least a day or two, very few large scale businesses will turn that down I suspect. At $14 an hour results in around 30k pay for a year, which is about the average cost of a higher end fast food employee as of right now in my neighborhood. Comparing that to a single 20k purchase and only paying for electricity and repairs after that will likely feel like a no-brainer.
@@shodowhawk Well, that’s a lot to unpack. I’m afraid too much for a you tube comment. Still I’ll hit a few highlights for you. There is no amount of “money already in circulation” for two reasons, 1) the amount changes all the time. Hence inflation. 2) Last I heard The money that moves around is only 2.5% of the actual money as numbers on peoples bank statements. Yup, If everyone wanted to have all there money in cash they'd have to wait for them to actually print the other 97.5% You can’t force companies to pay ex-employees. All you will end up doing is bankrupting all the companies as new companies that never had employees take over all the markets.
@@taiconan8857 UBI is just a slightly modified welfare system. It's totally doable and has run just fine in many countries. What my OC was referring to was the idea of Musk's bot utopia. We are in no danger of ever happening in any remotely reasonable amount of time. Which is a good thing as it would totally destroy the economy. How did Must put it.... "Short term problems" Now there is the understatement of the year.
Thanks very much. I don’t get the universal wealth thing yet. If a prospective employer can buy a bot for $20k that can replace a $60K human on an assembly line, that’s a no brainer. Now the employer is fine and a human is unemployed. What am I missing?
Everything gets cheap, if you can produce near unlimited amount of shoes where the only cost is buying a few dozen bots & maintenance then the cost of shoes will go towards 0. Every other similar product will follow suite, approaching a cost of 0. If the government gives a universal basic income then nobody will need to work.
@@marcosc8582 Why would I buy a robot to manufacture shoes, if the shoes are worthless? The only thing this robot does is make human labor obsolete. It's not going to end well. The concept of an "economy" goes out the window. You might think that's a good thing, but you would be wrong.
the employer is potentially so fine that he can turn a profit even when selling at very low prices. due to market competition, this drives the prices of products down. this is how innovation in general increases everyone's living standard.
I really hope that with all the advanced technologies that it will bring about tremendous productivity and abundance in the coming years, I really do. I've also been thinking about getting one of those bots when they come out if they're not overly pricey. However, with the way that the countries are being run in the past few years by the world's most powerful and wealthiest people, the future painted a bleak picture, with or w/o the bots.
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AI is extremely dangerous..... some have called it playing with fire, but I call it playing with dynamite while smoking a lit cigarette!! Nothing good will come out of this.
@@brucewilliamsstudio4932 Dangerous it is, as Elon himself also admitted years ago, but he went ahead and build it anyway. So let's just assume he's found ways to prevent any risks that might come out of it and hope for the best.
I am wondering when the company is going to make it's own parts for the robot like the do for their cars? I am assuming that this will come once they get their prototype and workout most of the bugs.
“Could a Tesla bot actually turn a profit ? “………. I can’t believe you actually said that ! Let’s see…….divide $20k by hourly minimum wage and their in lies your answer.
And then comes one mayor EMP event from the sun and you instantly have a lot of garbage and hungry people that have no idea what to do with it or for themselves.
Wait till the bot breaks down every 3 days and can only be repaired by tesla. And I imagine that it wuld be standing in everyone's way all the time. Not standing in the way is already difficult for humans and dodging people perfectly is a thing I can not see come true in the next 20 years.
i expect automation will contiue to increase productivity but is a humanoid robot really needed? why not a quadruped, its more stable, or a biped with a centre of mass below its hips, that would also be more stable, and with more stability comes increased carrying capacity and likely faster smoother movement I feel like theres not many good reasons to make it humanoid other than because we're humans designing it and it appeals to our ego...?
I suppose you are saying that God didn't really understand when he designed us as such? I just weigh the advantages against the disadvantages. At least I (start) the comparison. Then I realize, God already did that. And he showed me the answer. DONE.
@@vangildermichael1767 No, I wasn't saying anything about god. Humans anatomy is incredible and well tailored to our ancestors lifestyle but we dont need robots that run long distances while hunting or that can stand up to see above long grass to spot predators, if a robot needs appendages like our hands to hold and manipulate objects then it doesn't need to evolve to repurpose it's ancestors legs into hands like we did, we can just attach a pair of hands as well as giving it a more stable configuration of four legs. Its the same reason we dont give robots that manufacture cars legs, if it's function of sitting in one place assembling bits of metal doesnt require it to run hunting for food then we may as well just give it big powerful arms to lift metal and then bolt it to the ground. It's form follows it's function and a robot's function doesnt need to be the same as ours.
Because they want to eventually skin it and put a chat bot inside it so you can pretend it's a real person, have a friend, and S*x bot. That's where the market is for the average non corporation to drop 20k on a bot. Anything out of place would break the illusion and decrease demand. Also for highly interpersonal job replacement to occur it'll need to be as convincing as possible
it's about ergonomics. most systems are designed to be used by humans. you need a humanoid robot approximately the size of a human to be able to operate well in the same environment
The only way I see this working for most people ethically, is if the robot services were an insurance program you pay for. So you can take a few more months off work during the year for a vacation. So bosses with a critical production schedule can maintain production while your away but dont need to raise the price of goods because you payed for it with your insurance scheme. The only other solution would involve aggression like compulsory taxation so is immoral.
I understand the bots could make goods cheaper, but if low end jobs are mostly taken over by bots, where will the people who used to have those jobs work? and how will they afford to buy anything without an income? Finally, the idea that the bot owners will make stuff cheaper just because it costs them less seems overly optimistic.
it's not overly optimistic. There is market competition and if there is room for profit, new companies will start selling products and undercharging their competition. now the competition has to lower their prices as well
"Buy", "Work", "Own". All those things are about to go away. Get ready for, "no money", "no freedom", "no possessions". It will happen. This is just (one more step). Boy, this is an exciting show.
I will be saving up the money to buy a Tesla robot. This robot will be my lifeline 😂😂😂….my Tesla car will take it to work for me & take care of my family duties at home. Now I can sit back n enjoy this short life of ours
