@@backslash8874because not all positions are equal. For example suppose the evaluation of the position is EQUAL to a COMPUTER. BUT the position for black player is very sharp which means in order to remain neutral black must find the ONLY move in order to maintain this equality, on the other hand white could play 5 different moves that are fairly obvious to maintain the equality or push. In this scenario even if White calls the arbiter and say both player gets 5 minutes to think the Black player benefits more because he needs that extra time to find the only move a lot more then the white player needing extra time because he doesn’t need to find just one move.
@@premojha979 You clearly didn't get my comment. I said at that point Nepo was COMPLETELY WINNING when this happened (the position was no way equal) and it's an easy conversion. Plus Nepo has way more time than Hari, so he can easily call the arbiter and Hari won't have anything to benefit from that time because he was completely loosing. It's later Hari was able to equalize the position because Nepo blundered, and he was pissed at Hari for that.
@@premojha979 Just admit, he was just being a cry baby. And that piece falling once for a few millisecond when Nepo has triple the time advantage over Hari, had no-effect in the game or the outcome. He was only frustrated cause he couldn't convert a completely winning position.
@@backslash8874 I agree. Nepo’s behaviour was absolutely unacceptable. My point was never made to justify Nepo’s behaviour. I’m not sure why you extrapolated that. Nepo is a well known cry baby this isn’t the first time he has done this. My point obviously was that calling the arbiter is not always a reasonable option (this doesn’t excuse Nepo’s behaviour in any case) and the defense that both players get to think is not reasonable because not both players need to evaluate their moves in the same way. Even if a position is objectively equal according to an engine some of the moves are much harder to find for humans and so practically it’s difficult to hold especially in time trouble. Giving more time in these instances to one player provides significantly better chances for them to not blunder. Once again I am not defending Nepo. I am not advocating for him or his behaviour. He even made a comment about Alireza ruining candidates to Fabi on the last round of candidates by losing to Gukesh in round 13. The dude is a massive manchild.
Being emotional is one thing, being a jerk is another. Nepo's attitude here was completely out of line, and I'm glad he lost his chance at the world championship.
Shameful that you couldn't see that harikrishna became malicious when he was losing and decided to cheat in order to gain an advantage. It's written all over his face.
@@JohnSmith-un9jm Absolutely shameful that you have never seen a blitz game and came to comment nonsense here. There are countless games where Magnus, Hikaru, Maxime and also Ian himself, have all in time troubles dropped their pieces and have been slippery with their moves.
Indian players are notorious for cheating western chess players. Harikrishna needs to be banned for such unscrupulous behavior as knocking over chess pieces because your losing. How juvenile
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt when you don't call the arbiter, ref or for a replay. Just like how laws don't apply if the cops or courts don't get involved. He was in a winning position, lost and got butt hurt 😆😆😆 the most the arbiter would've don't is added 2-3 seconds to his time and given his opponent time to find a draw. He lost and like most people without self control, lost it.
6:00 For the record, this is the 1st RU-vid video I hear the author saying: "...smashing the subscribe button" and the "like" button starts shining in different colors alongside 😨...it might be an old feature but I had never noticed that update.
Nepo is so disrespectful towards others, this is why he didn't won wc and candidates this time. After the draw with fabi, he said "ali threw this for everyone" while ali was the only one who stopped gukesh from getting 10/14 by defeating him in time pressure. In the award ceremony, he was acting like cry baby while hikaru was proud and gave respect (clap and shake hands) to gukesh unlike nepo who acting like gukesh won by luck. But actually gukesh lost to ali by luck otherwise he was never in a lossing situation in any match throughout, whole nepo was certainly lost to vidit and fabi.
He literally slapped Haris hand instead of a handshake. Hari had all the right to be completely mad at him. Drawing in a winning position happens hundreds of times in every chess player's life . Absolutely no big deal. He should have been severely penalised for such uncivilized behaviour.
I have seen a few of your chess videos and I just hope you get more subs. Your videos are great in production and content. My respects, new sub here 🤝.
I played chess against a dirty opponent and i didn't call the arbiters, now I'm playing chess inside a colony and everyone repect me here and i always win,i am an undisputed, undefeated and an invincible! i will wait for nepo here.😅
Its a psychological disturbance maybe not a lot for the spectators like us who are free and have nothing tk lose unlike him this thought of not calling the arbitor to claim for penalty was always ticking on his mind while making each and every move and seeing the game is getting equal this happens everytime and nepo is right in his own terms. Most of the players in chess does this kind of psychological warfare like not shaking hands, coming late or it can be anything
Ok if that is so coomon in chess then Nepo should have called the arbiter 5 times in a row as he claimed Hari slipped five times in a row. Shouldnt Nepo be mad at himself for not calling the arbiter instead of being mad at Hari?
I had mixed thoughts when ding won recently. I am now firmly for ever in anti nepo camp. His Russian roots were not a factor but this behavior sways fans
It's a blitz game, you are in time trouble, you adrenaline is like 5000, also he had in a winning position and blew it. It's hard to control your emotions in that situation. Im not saying it's ok, but just don't put too much weight into it. He basically rage-quited in real life
@@burt591aren't we stating something obvious here? your comment is an explanation not a justification (nor were you trying to justify it) . obviously there would be a reason like there is behind every bad action, it would be weird if you act like that out of the blue. it is at these moments you need to show some manners which someone would expect from a player of nepo's capabilities. obviously don't send nepo for damnation but there should be some penalty for this kind of behaviour.
@@riynu7774 Well, I was responding to a guy who said that he is "now firmly for ever in anti nepo camp" just because he overreacted in a blitz game. I'm just trying to say that that doesn't make him a bad person, it can happen to any of us
To people blaming Ian, have you considered how the game would have went had the other player not dropped his piece or adjusted it on his time? Would the result be different? If you think so, that is your answer. You are blaming Ian for being upset over something that the other player took advantage of and should have been a part of the game. The other player took advantage, intentional or not of it and with only three seconds it was a factor.
You got it...and its exactly the reason harry played dirty in that split second. Harry natural reaction as experienced and well respected grandmaster would have been instantly fixing the piece and only then pressed the clock. But in this specific case, harry intentionally did the opposite because harry also realized he only had 2 seconds left.. Imagine what would harry do, if he had 20 seconds left instead? My bet he would have fixed the bishop first.
@@kimyunmi452 Except the guy explained why it’s not on purpose. He didn’t even react to the bishop falling over since the average human reaction time is 273ms and the time between the bishop falling and hari pressing the clock was like 260ms. In that moment he didn’t even have the time to think about it. Not everyone is a scumbag but Ofc if you want to think in a very negative and cynical manner then you can. Harikrishna is known as a classy guy who doesn’t do these things Nepo on the other hand has some history of behaving like a man child and being a cry baby.
@@premojha979 264 is wrong logic...the explanation confused between chicken and egg..ie genetic fallacy. The 264 is the effect and not the cause. Law of cause and effect. The cause comes first. Harry is playing dirty because he already had this dirty mindset: he would just move n press the clock REGARDLESS of whether or not he accidentally knocked over the piece. Yes the 'knocking' part was aaccidental. But the 'regardless continuebpressing' the clock was not accidental. It was his 'intentional personsl choice'...264 was the result of this 'choice'. Other clean and honest player would have reacted by fixing the bishop first..n only then pressed the clock..resulting in maybe 1.5 second duration rather than 264.millisecond..now u get it? 264 explanation is bogus and logical fallacy. Confusing between chicken and the eggs.
Because losing(drawing here from winning position) against Indians feels 5 times worse, as there is in general assumption among developed nations about backwardness of Indians....that's why one slip seems like 5 times.
Please explain to us when the rules don't apply? Nepo reacted in a salty manner but Hari did make a mistake. I doubt Hari had any ill intentions but who gets to judge? The chief arbiter.
Exactly! He was supposed to call the arbiter when it happened and even towards the end if he had any complaints report that to arbiter, not act like an angry child
sliding the knight wasn't intentional and knocking down a piece whaaa? it was an empty square he didn't have to do that, granted nepo should have gone to d6 and attack the queen instead of grabbing the pawn, maybe hari got a little too excited he didn't
Nepo! Such a cry baby! Same think happen in candidates 2024 tournament, he didn’t even bother to handshake with the winner or even congratulate him. And these kind of people Don't how respectful Harekrishna is towards others players. After seeing this video i have less respect for him after these both incident.
Okay but what if he did call the arbiter. I mean maybe he would have won with what? maybe 15s given to him? Ok. But realistically speaking if he blundered like this being 40s up then being 50 or 60s up probably didnt change it too much.
This video explanation completely misses the point that had harekrishna taken the time to fix the fallen bishop before pressing the clock. He would have lost on time because at that time he only had 2 seconds left. So yes harekrisna plated Dirty...not from incidentally knocked over the piece, but by knowingly and intentionally pressed the clocked first and only then fix the piece. Nepo was well aware of the 2 seconds left at that point.
"If you don't call the arbiter you forfeit the right to complain about anything". This is nonsense. Especially after you literally just explained how in a time scramble it doesn't make sense to call the arbiter. In this case, Harikrishna gets an advantage from his mistake either way, so Nepo is right to be irritated. I don't think Harikrishna did it on purpose, but it's still unfair for Nepo. It's just a case where the rules are clearly inadequate, because the player down on time is incentivized to break the rules like this, because it either gains him time or it compels his opponent to stop the clock, which gives him free time to think while the arbiter inevitably decides to do nothing. Your "scientific proof" that it was an accident is also complete nonsense btw. Obviously if Harikrishna planned it, he wouldn't need to react to it as if it were a mistake. Overall bad video.
Are u new to chess? Even in time scramble the player can stop the clock to call the arbiter All players can stop the clock to call the arbiter,that's the basic rule that even a fm and im know Nepo decided he wont call the arbiter because he had time advantage+position advantage Time didnt matter,because he can stop the clock to call the arbiter if he want Learn the rule first before u make urself look stupid It's funny how u acted like a smartass but dont even know the basic rule
the rule is also you can only call the arbiter on your move directly after... so as it was said, Nepo forfeited the right to complain. The rule is clear...
@@JohnSmith-un9jmYs! Ys! Actually that malicious word insertion made ur argument "very powerful"'' now letz put sm words that rhyme wd malicious to make ur dumb argument even powerful, lad! 😂😂😂😂 Come on, Nepo can be very proud of his sissy, fans... What an Army, Nepo u got here..😂😂😂
The point is he was supposed to call the arbiter when it happened and not bring it up after the game has finished and act like this. He is an adult, not a child. If any rules are broken report them to arbiter
@@dw96969 Sorry, but for me, its when i was a kids that i was doing the "I call the mommie ref or i call the dad ref". Being now adult, i can find solution in my problem all alone, and not crying for my mother, my dad, or the polize or an arbiter.
There is a reason why nepo is a 2 time challenger multiple time blitz and rapid world Championship podium finisher and probably the 3rd best all round player of the generation while harikrishna was never a serious title contender.
Grandmaster like harekrishna instant reflex reaction after knocking a piece is to immediately fix it...its just their natural reaction. Why in this specific he didnt do it? Well guess what? Because he knew he only had 2 seconds left. Had harekrishna had 20 seconds instead, his reflex reaction would have been fixing the piece and then pressed the clock. So yes..harry played dirty in that split second.
Dear, you can't use nosy auntie standard of logic to comment a high end game in such manner. Dirty did count in taking advantage against Nepo. Watch carefully, all Hari Pentala capturing motions before are directly using piece taking piece, but only at this particular moment, he took white piece first, then use knight to strike down the white bishop to click the clock; but it can't be done without first holding up the white pawn first, as you then can't click the clock without first picking up the bishop, then taking white pawn and click the clock; the whole action of waiting or sorry gesture causing Nepo at least 2 seconds instead of a quarter of second. Using 0.25 speed to see such logic. Human being is interesting and better than AI, as you can consciously play dirty by faking a subconscious act to accomplish, even you convince yourself to believe it, otherwise, it won't be perfect. 🤣
@@hahe3598 yeah and he decided not to call it out it only happened once nepo accused him of doing it 5 times when the entire game is available on youtube go watch it it happened only once and nepo had atleast 20 sec advantage at that point he still couldnt win coz he wasnt good enough now cry lmao crying like a b coz your opponent wasted 1 sec of your time when you are 20 sec in advantage just admit you are trash at that point lol
your scientific 264 milliseconds is very stupid theory. 264 is not the given, as if it is the time harry is provided so he could be forgiven for not having enough reaction time. No. The 264 is the effect. The resulting number. And you know why this number is so fast in this moment? The Law of cause and effect. The effect came after the cause and not otherwise. the cause is the dirty mindset harry had in his mind. Harry would just move as fast as possible REGARDLESS of whether or not he knocked over the piece. Other honest player would have reacted differently by adjusting the piece first and then pressed the clock. And this honest player number would have been like 1.5 second for example rather than 264 milliseconds. You are clearly confused between chicken and the egg.
I'm sure Nepo realised that he overeacted afterwards. However, it's perfectly understandable in the heat of the moment. Some other top GMs have done a lot worse.
Who wouldn't be mad. You probably would've flagged if you replaced the piece on your time, and now you replace it on my time and act like nothing happened. Hari seems like a nice guy, but what he did was incredibly dirty. Hari isn't some kid who doesn't know the rules. He knows exactly what he did, but he acts like what, what did I do. That's bs, and he knows it.
Nepo was totally justified. Don't knock over the pieces. First thing you teach a toddler. He should publicly apologize to Nepo and never sit behind a chessboard again. Banned for life! Not even at home in private! Disgrace to the game!!
@@S189-g7s not the only time he had bad manners. in fact i wouldnt be surprised if he was rude to gukesh in that very tournament. seems to be a pattern with top russian gms. anand told a story of kasparov banging on his door during break time in their world championship match to prevent him from resting
Dude, the real reason is simply because Hikaru offered, but Nepo didn't. It's not even a custom to shake hands with other winners at such a ceremony, Hikaru didn't shake hands with Nepo when he walked up for second place either. Nepo was looking at the audience when Hikaru offered Gukesh a handshake, and by the time he noticed, Gukesh had already taken his place on the stage. Gukesh didn't snub Nepo, Nepo didn't snub Gukesh
