When you said 773 I was like woaaaahhhh how much do I have to read and then I also saw one that said 1000000 and I was like WOOAAHH that’s to much but then I realized it’s not actually that much but still crazy
@@snoochieboochienoochies3394not like flash is if you really read his comics or shows you’d understand that he treats his villians better than anyone he treats them like freinds even tho half of them try to kill him that’s why it’s a whole big deal with thawne bc no matter how good of a guy he is it doesn’t matter thawne hates him an wants to see him suffer everybody won’t like you no matter how good you are seriously your comment shows nothing but how little you know of flash
@@Peter_Turbo4 I'd take Batman anyday over Waller. Batman won't put a bomb in my head to get me to do what he wants, won't threaten my family, and has a 1% chance of apologizing for his actions
@@Peter_Turbo4Batman may be harsh, but it's because his villains demand harshness due to how messed up they have became. Waller helps create even worse versions of the villains she captures.
Waller is very much the Devil. Not Lucifer devil. No, the Devil. She straight-up does not care about anything but having power and control. Human life is meaningless. She would happily kill the people under her command. If given a chance. And I do not mean the Squads. I mean, the controllers that work in the command room. Waller, as of current DC, is irredeemable. If someone offed her. There likely be no fan would shed a tear. They would cheer. Then, DC pulls typical comicbook move. She suddenly returns. As the woman that was killed. Well, they were a body double. More blood on her hands.
It's not real mate. Therefore, not an "object lesson" in anything that is. An object lesson is a real-life practical example. Not a comic that happens to reinforce what you wish to believe.
She didn't used to be that way. Sure she always used people and took advantage of situations but she didn't used to be such an out-and-out villain. I hate to see that they have done this to a character who used to be so nuanced and well-written.
@@LibraGamesUnlimited She wasn't out and out villain sure, but she still was a piece of trash back then. Trash with a twisted heart in the right place, but still trash.
@@Elmithian Oh yeah, she did bad things but there was always a logic behind it. You could see how she saw it as good for her country or part of her duty. Now it just seems like she's evil for the sake of being evil.
Amanda Waller will sacrifice cities with thousands of people to complete a goal. Amanda Waller killed Beast Boy in Starro form known as Garro because she wanted to try and show the public that the military can fend for themselves after the military killed thousands of civilians that were transformed into animal human hybrids because of Garro losing control. Waller will do what she seems necessary while Lex just hates Superman because Superman has abilities that Lex dreamed of and Lex wanted to practically be Superman. Brainiac just wants to gain information. And Darkseid/Uxas is the God of Evil which makes it practically his job to be how he is. Amanda Waller is an evil that only made it to her position for being cold-hearted and only focusing on the task and not the casualties.
If I recalled. When Lex was President. She suggested dropping an astroid onto the planet. Which would likely kill half of the human race. And do spin control and blame the Supers for the disaster. Lex turned to her and called her insane for even suggesting such a plan. Though, I could be wrong. But it sounds like a Waller thing to me. Being she hates all Supers. Does not matter who. Really, I do not recall if there is a backstory why she is so cold. Other than being a Sociopath (which is what she is).
To me Captain Cold is me to be a dark counterpart to Barry Allen showing what he would've become had he never move past his childhood and the things that happen to him as captain cold is pretty much Barry Allen on the wrong path
@@grimsgraveyard3598 that's only according to the show. In the comics, Savitar is a different person entirely, not an alternate version of Flash from the future. Although he is a rogue speedster and a rather evil one at that.
Unlike villains or heroes, Waller has a job position. No matter how personal the hate for her can get, she's still doing a job, a job someone else will do if she's gone. After killing Waller, one can only hope the next to get her position has better morals but is also as equally capable. Becuase the chances of getting someone who has worse morals and but is also worse at the job is a completely possible thing and the likely scenario the comics would go to just to make a point.
@doctorakiba5667 But it is an interesting storyline no one is doing. The what if next someone is worse feels like a cop out. Instead of showing a different, worse Waller replacement; they just keep making Waller more untouchable Darkside grade evil. NUK ING a city and blaming it on a Waller mission and near everyone right now would first say 'I would believe it.' Rotating heads would give example of different approaches or levels of collateral and make more sense.. A whole story with her ducking out for reasons nick fury style dodging investigations. maybe with taskforce x sent by her replacement trying to hunt her. All the while, she is making counters as she bides her time for her replacement make an example of themselves. Having that many killers hating you and at least one per mission slipping the leash does not make a long life/ career. Though her never using villains like Joker helps her survival rate.
There was one series where Harley talks about now being in charge of the suicide squad because Amanda Waller was killed by cancer. Now normally I wouldn't want anyone to suffer from that. However Amanda is the exception.
Can we please get a book where waller is held accountable and put on trial. She creates more problems than she solves in the name of being proactive and its getting old.
and her attitutde makes it worse she never mourns or feels bad for the innocents she sacrifices even once. she dosent fight for a greater good she fighting to force the world and humanity into what she WANTS.
That would be quite the fantastical storyline. High-ranking government officials are more-or-less above the law and Waller really appears to fit that category.
@@phyrath5 true I think the way they could handle it is if someone leaked irrefutable proof of what she's done to the public or if the UN got word that she was responsible for some bad stuff and brought her up on crimes against humanity. It wouldn't be a hard stretch get her on trial because even though a lot of high ranking gov individuals do get passes for their misdoings the stuff they normally do is typically localized wallers actions have put the entire planet at risk several times.
@@phyrath5 but is it really in character for her to still be alive and in power without anyone trying to take her down? I'm pretty sure you could get the _rogue's galleries_ to pick a fight with her due to the shit she stirred up It's fantastical for politicians to face consequences... But it's even more fantastical for people with both immense power AND immense anger to not try and do something about that. Especially when that power involves exploding heads
@@lex4478to be fair he’s a Lord of Order, they aren’t really good guys They’d be happy if the universe had practically no life, if not none, in it so that things maintained the ‘order’ they should be in, life is chaos and anarchy (especially for higher life forms)but too much leads to destruction That’s why it’s the Lords of Balance that are the real good ones (though a couple of versions of Fate have been on their ‘side’…)
At this point I don't care for any argument in defense of Waller. She has no excuse for being as twisted as she is. Neither the Justice League, the U.S. Government, nor any stupid future predictions of Dr. Fate will convince me otherwise. She is a monster that no one is going to suffer from the loss of.
I really do hate what Waller has become. She's a good idea. A patriot doing what she believes to be best for her country despite it putting her at odds with both heroes AND villains, but not caring, b/c that risk is a price she's willing to pay for her country's security. In practice, she's just kind of cruel & evil
Can access any point in space-time but can't go back just 5mins before Waller took heatwave. Dc can write golden stories for superman and batman that make sense but hell no they put in the same effort for flash.
His videos are months apart from each other, though. The last 2 videos are 7 months apart. I would hesitate to subscribe to a channel when I don't know if there will be a new video or not.
Honestly, I wish they'd just kill Waller off already. Any nuance to her character eroded away a long time ago. Now she's just Miss Big Bad Government who gets away with far more than she reasonably should. JLU is still the gold standard for this character as far as I'm concerned: She thinks she's doing the right thing. Some even argue she IS doing the right thing (or at least the necessary thing), and just goes about it all wrong. But by the end of it all she learns to work WITH the heroes. Even comes to respect them, all while STILL being willing to make the calls others are unable to.
Now she just sits around toying with lives, and doing anything she can to protect hers alone. She's also involved with every hero, making her come up so often. She sucks
The material itself isnt toxic, its the microscoptic fibers of the material thats deadly. I beat most people here dont realize majority if not all schools u were in had ceiling tiles and floor tiles made of the stuff. It only causes health issues if exposed to the microscopic fibers as they damage ur lungs and affect ur breathing which eventually becomes cancerous over time if continually exposed to them, using a special fiber significally lowers the chance but its a perfect stop gap as the filters can fail over time too
And yes i know this cause one of my training courses for my job in working at the school districts is to learn about asbestos. It is basically a damn good fire proof material, microscopic fibers health issues aside
I like when you say “The Flash always looks for the good in people” it doesn’t matter which one you’re talking about. Also, I enjoy that Amanda Waller legit feels worse than Lex Luthor or even the Joker. Like first person the JL should kill, with no remorse, should be Waller.
The Flash is one hero I always hate to see turn evil. They're supposed to always be the moral compass of the justice league. If Jay, Barry, Wally, Bart, Jey,Irey or anyone says "uhhh" then we should all be like..."UHHHHH"
Heatwave is just an interesting character First you see him being the random, crazy pyromaniac trying to out Flash down and then you get either a human side, a redeemed side or just a cooperating side that makes him look even better than a villain. Like dude using the examples from the DCAU and Arrowverse. He was jsut another crook and villain that ended helping lots of heroes, redeeming himself to become a better person Flash villains are all interesting tbh
also like... what could the flash do? Can the flash cure cancer? If so like, holy heck I didn't know that was one of his feats. Or does flash mean like... paying for medical treatment? What does helping mean? Also like, hype for heatwave that some unrelated deal with Dr. Fate cured his cancer. Hard to blame the guy for taking a job when it comes with those kinda benefits
The suit and character were made a while before the true dangers of asbestos was widely known. Back then, to both the readers and the characters within the comic, it was just a suit made from a material that would serve him well. Afterwards, however.....
the fact that everyone unanimously hates Waller just shows how well they wrote her corruption, it’s really impressive to make an entire community think one way about anything, let alone a human being
No. It's because she's just a horribly written character. I have zero problems with a super corrupt character, so long as they're written RIGHT, like Waller was in JLU, but here she's just pointless. Literally NOTHING about her adds anything of worth to the story. You could literally take her out of the comics completely, throw in pretty much ANY character in her place, and STILL have a better story. THAT is why she's so hated. Has nothing to do with her corruption.
I love the contrast between the flash and batman. The flash always looks for the good in people whereas batman always looks for the bad. The reason i love this contrast so much is because the scenarios play out realistically for both of them. And they both have proper consequences for the way they do things. Flash is able to connect to the human side of his villains and often soften or prevent conflicts that arise. Whereas with batman Hes ready for when conflicts arise before they happen. This gives him a great advantage when a persons good side fails them. I know that superman and batman are the iconic pair but i wouldn't mind seeing more stories with batman and flash. Not to say there arent any but more would definitely be welcome
@@antoniofinotti8877 I'd actually disagree to some extent, Batman is known for his not Killing Rule and one of the main reasons for it is his faith in people. He often tries to reabilitate his villains and succeeded with Cassandra Cane, Harley and many others. So I do believe he tries to see good in people.
Wally is the purest hero. Everything he does is to help people, even his rogues. I loved the episode of The Justice League where it shows that Flash only acts like a goof but deep down, he is a kindhearted soul who truly cares.
Damn im early for once. Just wanted to say great job, love the content man! you always have interesting comic stories to share and i love seeing em. great editing as well, ik how annoying editing can be sometimes, so great job on all the hard work!
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This is really frustratingly sad. A flash or Batman are probably the 2 most heroes that can help villains back to society. And most of flash villains are mostly healthier versions of Batman rogues. So Waller keeping them separated is just so AAAAAAHHHHH.
At this point, I'm just waiting for all the criminals she's stomped on to just team up and take her out already. Bonus points if the Justice League catches wind of it and just go "not our problem" because they know Waller's more trouble alive than dead. Maybe that wasn't the case some time ago, but by now she just doesn't seem to care whether or not anything she does is "good" to anyone but herself and her own interests
This is why Flash is such a good character (and my second favorite DC hero behind Batman (Batman the animated series is peak Batman)) when your fast enough to basically do all the superheroing you need to do in like under a minute. You have time to actually understand why people are doing.
i feel like waller is so hated because she represents corrupt authorities, people that are supposedly on your side but not really, atleast someone like joker you know exactly what they about.
I'd pay to have her written well again. She's supposed to be a hardass patriot who makes the tough calls others can't & will get her hands dirty for the sake of her country regardless of who that puts her at odds with. Not a cruel villain who just serves to make people miserable
I knew it! Flash did try and cure the cancer and have an answer for the problem. But someone else borked his efforts. I would feel so betrayed if the flash just. Did not try, or he forgot.
Do not ever compare Fury to Waller. Man at least has a heart enough to care about something and tries to find options with the least minimal sacrifices required.
Waller is a background character that should have been forgotten, or killed off back in the 90s. She never adds anything unique or interesting to any story and is often serves little assistance to the heroes she is supposed to be helping, actually becoming more of an obstruction than an ally.
Maybe it exists idk, but i want someone who just hates Waller because they got screwed over by her and decided to make her pay by killing her. If it's a short comic or something that's fine, I'm just so sick of her 💀💀💀
Wearing an asbestos suit shouldn't give you mesothelioma, those things are sealed up tight, then again if you get into a fight and the suit gets damaged, the fibres could get aerosolized, by something like someone punching them a hundred times per second.
Flash is the whole reason the justice league is how they are, thats why in the one dc universe where the flash had died, the justice league there turned evil
Waller is more of a villain than most, and I'm honestly amazed it hasn't come to a head yet. Like, waller using all of batman's contengincies to take down the league or try to take over via bomb collars, etc. She wants control, and most heroes are out of her control.
Continuously the stupidest parts of comics is not killing your enemies, and not overthrowing the government. Imagine having superpowers and just letting Waller run amok because shes a government agent.
The understanding hero should be. Understandable! The hero for the peaple! you tell him your problems and he will understand it Very WELL!! Look out once unsupervised children that are now criminals, he will get your problems!!! Understandable! we went for a lot of problems, but he will absorve it all! and since he is imortal he will be alright.
They should update this with PFAS as it lines the gear firefighters wear and is absorbed into the skin at high temperatures. Skin cancer is high among firefighters for this reason
Marvel has a Villain from war era called Aespestos Woman who was basically an ad for all the wonderful fire resistant properties of Aespestos. You can guess what happened to her when she came up again in comics decades later
Frankly (reference 🤯🤯🤯) this was awesome! Gives us another way to enjoy the fangame in video form that was fun to listen and watch as well! Props to NobyJr1 for the music, and thank you for always cooking fangames Frankfro!
50:30 I have no idea if you got the answers to these questions, but essentially yes. They steal your useful memories, (like how to drive a vehicle, military tactics, use Guns, fly spaceships) and throw away whatever isn't of strategic value. Most hosts die within seconds, and at the same time their mind feels immense excruciating pain for a prolonged period, as the flood sorts through their memories and thoughts. But in one of the Halo novels, Wallace Jenkins, the marine who we see the helmet cam footage, is partially infected, his mind is alive and aware of what's happening to his body and what's around him, but the parasite has complete control over his body. He even had a few moments where he managed to regain control of his body just long enough to walk up to a cliff edge to un-alive himself, but the parasite wrenches control away from him before he can go through with it. Yeah the books have some messed up stuff in them, but they're definitely well written IMO.
Wait! Belle Reve Penitentiary is in Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana?! I was born and raised there. I knew it was in Louisiana but I thought it was in a unnamed part of it. The lower you go in Terrebonne, you start getting into more estuaries and then it's pretty much a straight shot into the gulf. I'd guess it's somewhere near Chauvin or Dulac. Hell, it could be out in the swamp near where the intracoastal and the atchafalaya meet. I think Cocodrie is a little to close to the gulf. It's pretty cool to see that the place I love and know so much about is enshrined in DC comics history.
For the fastest speedster (not just man) alive that's not an excuse. Back in the Waid run there an issue where Wally didn't slow down for an entire day. Ran central city saving everyone and stopping all crime. Caught Chillblaine twice the second time when he escaped police custody and wrecked his shiz with a tornado of fists, by the time he stopped his suit was shredded. That's the kind of energy you put in when you have great power.
