No, he needs a Mysterium laced skeleton. It’s much stronger than Adamantium, nullifies magic, inhibits telepathy and completely bypasses Spider-Man’s spider sense.
fr, bruh he was explaining that the way a science channel explains why you need a space helmet in space, like this is facts lol, like literally if the writer wanted him to have vibranium he could just give him vibranium because he said so lol
@@pandamoniummusic7430 It's mostly a matter of verosimilitude and keeping the world sensical. Some writers work hard to build a sensible world and others... well kinda disregard that work.
I always liked the idea of him being super heavy due to his skeleton. A punch from this dude without his claws would be like getting hit with a warhammer.
His skeleton alone weighs 300 lbs, iirc. You are correct. Also, he is *super* strong because he's hauling an extra 300 lbs everywhere he goes every day.
Actually, the 300lbs adamantium was a late retcon by a writer that didn't do their homework. It was written long ago that adamantium was a ultra clean pure metal that was 10 times stronger than titanium, and lighter than aluminum. That was why he was always able to swim without sinking all the way to the bottom. Plus, that was why Bullseye was able to have adamantium grafted to his skeleton, without dying from "adamantium" poisoning. Carbonatium metal was very poisonous(the Russian version of adamantium).
In the Wolverine vs Deadpool issue during the Daken storyline, Wolverine lets a woman punch him in retaliation for him and Wade ruining their restaurant during their fight. The woman landed the perfect punch and her hand got wrecked.
Correct they made it poisonous because they felt Wolverine needed to die at some point. Call it horrible Marvel Comic writing. One of the reason why I stopped reading Marvel and DC comics years ago; bad writers, bad writing, horrible plot points, and unnecessary inconsistencies. It’s a byproduct of bad continuity within the core of Marvel comics writing team.
but when magneto removed wolverine's adamantium skeleton in the 90s comics, logan started having an increased healing factor. so while the term adamantium poisoning itself wasn't used, it has been a thing for a few decades that the adamantium impedes his healing factor on some level
Actually it doesn’t matter that adamantium is heavier. Wolverine’s healing factor grows his muscle at an exponential rate, meaning the stress once caused by the weight had long disappeared from his body due to muscle growth being constant until it wasn’t needed. So the weight he feels from the adamantium is no more than you feel from basic body weight. Additionally, due to his healing factor, Wolverine cannot lose muscle mass. Meaning if he starved himself, normally his body would eat muscle tissue after burning fat down below 7 percent. But due to his healing factor, his muscle would just grow back as it doesn’t need nutrients to regrow. That means that any added muscle is retained and never lost. Source material: Wolverine #43: Civil War has his entire body destroyed by a bomb with nothing but the skeleton left (Canon) Logan #2: Hit with a Nuclear Bomb which also completely destroys all flesh on his bones, comes back by himself (Canon) Wolverine #3 Logan is strapped to a bomb with highly explosive warheads as well as the payload and is completely blown up except the skeleton.
understood but... a specific story depicted Logan dehydrated, starving in the desert and not being able to heal properly due exactly to lack of nutrition needing to heal. The hallucination he had at that moment reminded him of this fact. he then proceeded to eat a buzzard raw stating, "What? It's protein right?" He could become ENFEEBLED to extremes of this manner but would still survive and recover overall yes. Nutrition matters even for him though. all i'm really saying here.
@@shaynekell7343 so Wolverine was hit with an atomic bomb, canon, and nothing left but his brain. He still healed. The story you’re referencing, what was it comic book series and number.
Abit but his healing is tide some what to his energie if he has low energie he doesnt heal as wel,he stated if he wants to heal wel he needs food to turn into energie
Actually, there's a comic where he gets vibranium, so no he doesn't explode, it's simply a fact that he has adamantium because that's what the comics chose for him, there's no deeper meaning for them picking that over something else.
Well, what the dude said is true, though if you can't expel the energy it absorbs, then it blows up, so yeah, what the dude said is possible, and it could kill Wolverine if his whole Skeleton was to explode. That's the weakness of vibranium, if it absorbs too much kinetic energy and doesn't expel it, it will explode, destroying what was made from it.
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I love how in depth the science is behind a fictional element. Like, who sat down with a bunch of scientists and said “ok so we want to make an element that’s strong as f*** but can’t be used in place of another element we’ve already created. How do we make it?”
because it's not just a coating of adamantium. It started out being described that way, but Marvel later revealed that the adamantium actually was absorbed into his bones and bonded with them.
And this is all a moot point because as far as I ever saw no one knew it would poison him that was only realized at a later time and it was just assumed up until old man Logan that his healing factor would just continually "cure" him indefinitely
Because its a unecessarily convoluted retcon. If they wanted to take back the nerv they would just never mention the posion aspect again. Marvel is no stranger to these kind of decision
Here is a twist, he gets vibranium skeleton and it assist his healing factor makes him youthful again and far more explosive. Elevating him to be truly unstoppable.
@@stephenwonghongweng4298 nah, it would just give him kinetic-energy absorbing bones, as the video stated. And releasing that energy would be problematic because it's inside his body instead of outside like a suit, That's why he would blow his limbs off. Wolverine's mutant physiology and healing factor are already superior to the peak human levels provided by the heart-shaped herb and super-soldier serum.
@@neospock5034 his mutant powers will just enable him to absorb all the energy into his muscles and either discharge it through his claws or power up his healing factors or body even more.
@@stephenwonghongweng4298 what gives you that idea? The kinetic energy release is just an explosion. It's not part of his own natural abilities. It would damage him, and he'd have to heal from it. Wolverine's mutant power doesn't give him immunity to energy bombs going off inside of his body, which is basically what it would be. Sure someone like Forge, Black Panther, or Professor X could develop some technology that allowed Wolverine to safely channel those energy explosions, but that's not something his body naturally does on its own. Wolverine's healing factor just heals him after things damage him, it's not super-adaptation like Darwin or Hulk.
I think the main reason is that, Adamantium was presented in the comics as the most strong and indestructible metal in the world. That is also stronger than Vibranium, which can be cut in half by Adamantium.
@@angelortiz6373 yes Atlantis is a thing in the comics, but they only have significant deposits of vibranium in the movie universe. That's another change specific to the MCU. In the comics it's Wakanda for standard vibranium and the Savage Land for anti-metal.
Adamantium is indestructible by conventional means. Vibranium on the other hand-although it is indeed very durable-is still very able destructable. Someone like Hulk or Thor could break Vibranium if they tried hard enough. They wouldn't be able to make a dent in Adamantium though-unless it's due to magic by Thor.
@@God_of_War-04 Not really. They had Retcon things to make Wolverine’s skeleton a special type of Adamantium, because beings like Thor and Hulk actually were breaking Adamantium in their solo books. A similar thing could’ve been done with Vibranium.
@@donovanlarsen7982 Wolverine's Adamantium-aka Adamantium-Beta-is only adaptive to his biology. It isn't any more indestructible than normal Adamantium.
@@donovanlarsen7982 not really, the retcon just established that all adamantium which had been previously broken by Hulk, Thor etc was an inferior grade that was cheaper and easier to mass produce. Wolverine and Ultron still had the real deal,. primary/true adamantium. It was a quick and dirty way to keep adamantium's unbreakable status intact.
If I was to make a concept of this I’d say that Wolverine should keep the bone skeleton but there’s a disadvantage to this that any wound that he sustains will be very fatal for him,to fix that if make his suit out of vibranium (like black panther’s) or out of adamantium
the best version of Wolverine had Adamantine metal in him, the metal the Greek gods use, the same metal that Adamantium was a failed copycat of, perks of dating Hercules.
Adamantium is a failed copycat of proto-adamantium (the unique alloy of Captain America's shield, created during WW2). Legends of adamantine are what inspired Dr Maclains's wartime efforts in the first place, but he never had any of that metal to work with- so in a way it's twice removed from adamantium.
Wolverine has one of the most unique abilities , i don’t even think another ip has a clone version He constantly heals while his skeletal System is covered in metal , that he can also use as weapons Thats literally so genius
My only counter argument is that between Reed Richards, SpiderMan, Tony Stark, just to name a few, could make a vibranium that doesn't come with any of those drawbacks
Actually the only three smartest Marvel characters that can pull off such an experiment in creating a vibranium with non-toxins in it are, Reed Richards, Doctor Doom and Forge. 1991-1993 Marvel universe series cards, intelligence highest rating levels 6, human/mutant abilities, not including cosmic like characters.
they aren't "drawbacks", those are the fundamental properties of the metals. Vibranium (from Wakanada) has that name because it absorbs vibrations. If you don't want vibration absorption (including kinetic energy impacts) then you'd use a different metal. Likewise anti-metal (antarctic vibranium) has that name because it destroys other metals. Literally that's what those particular subtances do. Neither Parker, Banner, Stark, Pym, T'Challa, Doom or Richards can change that. Vibranium isn't as tough as proto-adamantium, or adamantium, or uru, or adamantine, or dargonite but admantium is the only one of those metals available on modern-day Earth.
@@neospock5034honestly I agree and after watching Logan and him dying from the poisoning. I feel like they'll fix it. As the only way to save Logan. And from what I'm thinking it'll be Uru with some other metal to create something lighter stronger and better than what he has.
The crazy thing about wolverine,professor x theorized that wolverine wld be more powerful w/o his adamantium covered skeleton and claws. And he was proved right once magneto ripped out every ounce of it from wolverines body. His bone claws got bigger and thicker along with his healing factor got supercharged. He was also faster bc he was lighter and became more animal like than human. So the adamantium was actually holding him back from being
Vibranium existed before adamantium actually And adamantium is MADE OF vibranium To be specific it is called a "vibranium-steel alloy" in the comics when it is introduced
You are right in it holding him back however they explained already in the comics that when he fought magneto he had removed Wolverines vibraniam skeleton and when he recovered wolverine became even more savage & over time he was consumed so much he became more of a savage beast than human. It’s kind of like wades healing factor combating his cancer. The vibraniam poisons him dulling his senses so he doesn’t become feral like sabertooth had become since they’re one in the same from immortality, heighten senses, & O͎f͎c͎ healing factor wolverines vibraniam keeps him in check from letting his inner beast fully unleash
There is no adamantium poisoning in most versions of the Wolverine storyline. Adamantium is not a metal & it's damsure not an earth metal. Adamantium is Indestructible it doesn't shard it doesn't break down it doesn't leech & it doesn't corrode so it doesn't oxidize. U can only melt it once. Read ur comics people 😊
Exatamente. Isso se disseminou após o filme logan. Com um cineasta usando o personagem pra fazer um filme comum sobre laços e envelhecer disfarçado no gênero heróis e usando a comoção pra ganhar o público e fazer seu nome, ele não liga pro Wolvie. Ele até foi contra seu retorno.
According to the anatomical drawing of Logan; he has feet for hands. " The tarsal bones are seven bones in the foot that connect the lower extremity to the foot" They aren't located in the Hand.
Writers... if T'chala doesn't blow himself up, he can focus kinetic energy so they could write that Logan can do the same AND it could look like something similar to Baraka's ranged attacks from Mortal Kombat (yes, it's Kombat, go look it up) and they can also write is so that Antartic vibranium is healable by his regejeration factor same as is adamantium skeleton poisoning. Vóila
Last in my check, In the comics they're all out of Vibranium when weapon X was being developed! But if he had the atlantic vibranium, his own mutant healing factor will prevent it from eating the iron in the blood!
The type of metal used for caps shield would be the best for him. It's a mixture of adamantium and vibranium canceling out the negatives effects of either metal
Adamantium was a composite using Vibranium though......isn't it? I seem to remember that Adamantium was the government's answer to Vibranium, because Vibranium was so difficult and expensive to procure from Wakanda. So they found a way to use a small amount of Vibranium mixed with other alloys to make Adamantium, it was almost as strong as Vibranium but lacked the vibration absorbing effects.....
Also the properties of adamantium go beyond what vibranium can do. Vibranium is not indestructable like adamantium. In fact, it has vibrational weaknesses that are in the name. Vibrational frequencies. While adamantium, is made with the notion in mind that they needed something that can pierce the superhuman defenses of mutants and super heroes. Not many realize this, but wolverine was created as an anti super hero weapon. BEcausse adamantium is so strong, that it almost separates matter like butter. No matter what its made out of.
The writers just didn't want wolverine being able to one up most heroes who beat on him. I sometimes see writers just hating on him and making him a punching bag for other heroes when they're mad
Vibranium would make him light and agile BUT his power would be less effective. The adamanthium weighs more which gives he stronger attacks. He's already crazy fast with what he's got, he doesn't need another speed or agility buff in exchange for strength.
They always over look the fact that the metals are supposed to be indestructible. That means you can't pull atoms off to interact chemically with other things. The metals would actually be chemically inert, and this not poisonous at all.
Wakandan vibranium sounds pretty usable for Wolverine. Like his arm meat is gonna blow off, but it’s not gonna dislocate it bc his whole body is covered in it.
Eh, you don't even need to explain it on this level. The metals have different functions. A Vibranium Wolverine would be just weird. We don't need him to be light as a feather absorbing shock and flipping all over the place like Spider-Man. He's built to take damage. He's a tank character. Adamantium is indestructible. That's it's function. It's designed to be crafted to a character who steamrolls through obstacles. I like the idea of Wolverine being as agile as a ninja while being weighed down by the Adamantium making him this brawler type. But Vibranium would legit make him move more like Nightcrawler. You'd see way more flips. Way better suited for a martial arts character.
I was honestly thinking of having him with a specialized Vibranium. One formulated especially to his abilities. So yes while instead of absorbing vibration he can disperse of it. Greatly reducing the damage he takes. He'd still be him and still be a tank but I think he needs something new.
I don't really think the Adamantium skeleton makes him any less agile I think it's mostly just his preferred fighting style that keeps him from flipping around everywhere because he has shown the ability to move with extreme agility many times
The reason he doesn't have a vibrainium or adamantium skeleton is that if his bones were repalced, he would have no immune system since white blood cells are manufactured in the bone marrow. Get it right. His skeleton is not made of magic metal. His skeleton is PLATED with it. Some comic readers are smart enough to understand why these things matter.
Let's forget logic for a second since comics have done somethings that don't make sense. I'd like to think that if the writers choose to give him Vibranium. That they would also give him the ability to concentrate the energy directly into his claws. It would be seriously cool to see him slashing mid fight to then give a stabbing punch that pushes back his enemies through multiple walls or just makes them explode 💥.
In one run, Wolverine got his Adamanthium removed. Turns out it wasn't just poisoning him, but keeping him from his mutation fully taken over. He turns into a blood savage monster
To think my childhood would be relevant again to the new generation, and I'm all for it. Ryan Reynolds, you didn't just save the MCU. You revived something better, and rekindled something great since the Red Ring fix of 2008. Turning Red took that chance before, then deadpool walked in and said "Hold my Carbonadium." NSYNC 4 LYF3, baybeh!
because adamantium is the X-men's version of Marvel's vibranium and vice versa. They're technically the same thing, if you think about it. That's like saying this one character that's in both Marvel and DC (like Deadpool being Deathstroke). I mean, it's even a real Deathstroke in Marvel called Deathstroke The Terminator, which will be the inspiration for Deadpool (but let's face it, it's the DC's Deathstroke)
The "Main reason." Is because Adamantium is stronger, at least in the comics. And With Adamantium Wolverines healing factor altered its molecules that created its own variant. So who's to say his healing factor wouldn't do the same to vibranium that it did to Adamantium, which is an alloy of vibranium and steel anyway.
Wouldn’t it be cool if the MCU introduced Adamentium and said it was an unsynthezied version of Vibranium? Or like when Tony created a new element (with help from his dad) … they used a similar process to turn Adamentium into Vibranium…
Omnium. Organic steel like Colossus. Non toxuc amd almost as tough. Maybe with adamantium claws as long as they're shearhed in omnium while they're retracted.
Vibranium has no drawbacks. It's lighter, not magnetic and the force repulsion thing is more of an advantage than a disadvantage (he can channel the stored energy via his claws). That makes wolverine OP...and stops getting his ass beat by magneto....that's why he doesn't have a vibranium skeleton.
Different metals are good for different things. Some metals are better for structural integrity, some are better for technology, and others are better for cutting...
I like how other comic book commentators say a vibranium bonded skeleton would make logan super powerful. Due to its lighter weight plus other enhancements it would give him.
Maybe if he was made from iron it wouldn't be so bad Since iron is so abundant And we even ingested for medical purposes A kind of stainless iron To reap benefits without corrosion are just chalk it up as a bad idea because you run into a whole host of other problems that won't make this make sense. The only thing there is to do is to fill the spaces between the bones with more bone growth Giving him one of the hardest skeletons ever created And just give his claws the anementium Reducing the metal oxide poisoning And instead of the clause being bone they could be made of collagen like fingernails are made of. And reaching max thickness At the base of the clause when fully extended Instead of thin gentsu knives. And the way the movies had them come out Would not only have them going through pressure points it would filla the whole hand into 4 sections I mean let's be for real it's not a realistic design.
much better if he doesn't have anything at all just bone claw cutting limbs won't be a problem he can re grow it in an instant unlike deadpool who take a long time to regrow, he's a skilled elite soldier during world war his hand to hand combat with super human strength should be on par or more powerful than with captain America, with impressive marksmanship and weaponry because of his superhuman senses.
Yea it has absolutely nothing to do with the chronological release of each of the vibranium and adamantium aswel as the accessibility of the individual metals the scientists may have had at the time of creation of the weapon X program adamantium '63. Vibranium '66 incase u are curious its there for the best of wolverine not the more logical reasons
I'm sure I'm not out of my mind when I remember that Captain America shield is made of vibranium and not adamantium😐 I thought that was the reason why Captain America shield was so effective especially as it pertains to gunshots, and another kinetics hitting the shield... It's because it absorbs the vibration from whatever it's hit wit as opposed to deflection only..
Its a special alloy made of both vibranium and adamantium, callled "proto adamantium" However it is the only sample because the scientist who created it not only lose their own recipe but died before they could recreate it... In other words caps shield be built different
Why not just make an alloy of whatever form of Vibranium would work best with his Adamantium Beta, which is basically Primary Adamantium molecularly-bonded to his regenerative bone cells? It’d be like Cap’s Vibranium/Proto-Adamantium shield, but made specifically for Logan to handle. Either that or an Adamantium alloy with either Uru, Mysterium, any combination of the metals, or all of them.
Also, wasn't it stated that vibranium's "indestructibility" is not due to how endure that thing is, but because of how it can absorb vibrations? I mean, that the whole reason why it's called VIBRAnium, right? So, if Wolverine had skeleton made of vibranium, it would be able to get through some punches and he's bones wouldn't feel some explosions as much, but it still wouldn't be as endure as adamntium. Adamantium was made with being "indestructible" in mind, while vibranium is something that is just "oh, something that punched metal didin't do much to metal itself because metal absorbs vibrations the punch made" Also, it's worth noting that in comics, Caps shield is made both from adamantium and vibranium, unlike in MCU, where it's made only from vibranium (because at the time MCU didn't had right to any mutant stuff which adamantium was, and no one ever decided to retcon that to be more comic accurate)
There’s a Wolverine who actually had vibranium and his life was way better he was stronger could save in extra energy from attacks and use to to jump higher and he was more agile faster and sneaker and had zero poison in his system
The vibraninum was merely the writers wanting him to have his own special metal for his body with adamantium. If i recall correctly vibraninum has no magnetic properties either so he would literally just go around slaughtering his comics universe of villains basically unopposed. He could handle the discharge of energy aspect easily with his rapid regeneration. It would also harm those who struck him with the explosive release he could also learn to redirect and focus the discharges like a wave of energy channeled and directed like an ability similar to cyclops.
0:19. Not persuasive. With adamantium, he's basically been rucking for decades. Mind you, rucking with muscles that adapted to that weight at super-human rate. He's used to it. He's stronger with adamantium. After years of rucking he is also just as as agile with adamantium had he been given vibranium from the start. He would lose muscle mass with a lighter skeleton. He's used to the adamantium.
I think the main reason is that they simply couldn't get vibranium in the first place. I'm sure they would have preferred to use it but adamantium is what they had.
