Chris Lambrianou tells the story of what really happened before and after jack the hat Mcvitie was murdered. Click the link to watch the full podcast • Old school London Gang...
I knew this gangster in London who, if you pissed him off, would get hold of the back of your underpants and pull them up over your ears! Wedgie Kray was his name.
Ronnie was a real nice guy , I owed him a fiver and he came around to my house and I told him I couldn't pay so he nailed my right hand to the coffee table then walked up the stairs and nailed my left hand to the bedpost but he was so kind he even put on a pair of my carpet slippers so he didn't dirty the carpet. Ronnie , what a guy
Blonde Carole got her name because she was blonde. Jack 'the hat' McVitie got his name for his penchant for wearing hats. Ronnie Bender was so-called because he owned all 7 seasons of Futurama on VHS
My neighbour worked on a building site and one of his fellow workers was on parole so he befriended him and invited him to dinner one evening. The man who came to dinner was Chris' brother Tony.
it's his own fault for not wearing a mask, the vaccine would've saved him 100% though, even after he was stabbed 34 times, miracle of science that stuff is.
Speaking of McVitie I once saw a fight break out in a biscuit barrel. Bandit hit a penguin over the head with a club then made a breakaway for it in a taxi.
Talking about American dollar gold coins I've not long got rid of a 1 once 20 dollar coin and a 50 dollar gold coin as well Yer great interview as well
Very interesting video James and very informative.i believe Chris lambrianos story of the events of that night ,but I think he was very naive ,in the first place to go looking for tony ,and then to get deeper involved when he could have distanced himself .he and his brother spent a long time behind bars for taking J T Hats body out of evering road for short spin around London and did not even dispose of the body.with nipper Reid you were either on his side grassing or going down for a long time. nipper was feeling the heat from his bosses and something had to give .chris realised he had made a big mistake when his sentence was read out.i think 15yrs??."..he ha d plenty of time in prison to reflect on his mistake. I have seen some of his videos and I believe he is doin ok now .you done your time Chris and I wish you well into the future.good luck and good health from IRELAND 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️☘️.
Which version of Chris's story do you believe because there are several. He spent most of the time that night crying,Albert Donahue called him "soppy bollocks Lambrianou" not much of a gangster monicker eh?
@@dave8204 so Donaghue called him soppy bollocks this is the same Donaghue that went QE against the twins then wrote a book about how he was a real gangster and he most loyal member of the firm his name will go down in history along with Bertie Smalls as one of the most famous wrong uns in criminal history
Chris after coming out of jail gave his life helping young people with severe drug problems in a residential drug and alcohol centre and helping many charities
tony was an arshole just a gofer, they wernt on the firm, at least chris half tells the truth, you must remember, there is a lot people cant say, these 2 were involved with pedo rings to politicians and filth like that
Wxlfie94 Police are criminals all over the world. The “world leaders” and the higher ups of the world, The Royal Family, The Clinton’s etc are the biggest criminals we have ever saw. People like the Kray Twins are a minuscule of what the real world really is.
Chris says there were people at the party but others say everyone was forced to leave and it was just the Krays Lambrianous ronnie Bender and two brothers
I was never part of it but you were ready to shoot the police to dispose a body. You were trying to fit in, to impress the twins and was ready to do stuff to prove yourself. Just like the policeman said, you wanted to be with me Krays.
You read too many bad books. If you had any sense you kept away from the Krays because they were a pair of nutters and it was only a matter of time before they went down and took their cronies with them. If they hadn't got banged up they'd have been bumped off.
He was willing to shoot them for his brother. You stayed quiet and you stay loyal you survived longer that way! Chris is fascinating. He may not be straight but he's so likeable
They sound like the thickest people.. It must have been easy to make it in the underworld in those days. The krays and their mates sound like the chuckle brothers
I liked the movie but the time sequence is all wrong Charlie Richardson is knicked years before Reggie and Frances get married or Cornell gets shot (he was nicked 3 months after Cornell was killed
I know what to say the the judge nowwwwww!!!.... "don't worry about all this fuss about horrific crimes an all that fella, just a little bit of argy bargy downstairs thasall ".... 🤣
not bigger, but there was a pair of them in it. And rightly so. You want a bunch of male nurses and a couple of hairdressesrs to maintain law and order on your streets? I don't. A few bent coppers is some uniformed bruisers will keep us safe better that accountants and florists ever will.
because they reached a new height in their profession, a profession which has always been a fascination to the general public? But just because they don't meet your moral standing you'll never understand why people different from you will be fascinated by something you're not? Some people just can't get off their high horse or get over their arrogance for 5 minutes
He gets away from a dodgy situation, then went back to get his brother out of it, then at the request of someone not responsible for the murder, decides to pervert the course of justice. Why, what was in it for him?
Honor, he did what he thought was right. Loyalty messed his life up. He lived to the code but when it comes to it not many do and the ones who do so pay heavily for it.
Bloody hell what a story 🥶 I would of told the mum violet I had the police following me everywhere and cant go to the jail . He was bloody mad doing that .
if this is recent chris must of been so young when it happened he dont look that old now. i know Tony passed away. but for such young men who was not evil at all the british govt delt them a severe blow when your young you dont think you can end up getting swept along in the hustle and bustle before u know where u are .very strong people tho and real to the core.live by the sword u gotta respect that
@Frank Green well if that's the world your in shut up and take it too many people these days think they can get round things earn money then grass when the time comes thats bs and its so sad its that way . your going down the road and get nicked cos of a grass. wrong they want kicking out the world
This is about the 5th first hand account I've heard/read about this and non of them are the same. In his brothers book,tony says he and his brother TOGETHER walked into the party,chris went to get another gun after the first failed,not "just go home",blond carol was already in the house, The krays then told them to get rid of the body,they didnt run off,chris and TONY,(who was there the whole time) cleaned up (jacks liver fell out,) they left in the car (no mention of the shop,just people walking past)to leave it on freddie foremans patch ,who knew nothing about it according to tony(but,foreman has since said HE disposed of the body)..etc etc.. Not suprised they got nicked
True everytime he tells this story its always different, in every documentary it's all different and he never says blonde Carroll came home in any of them .
dave h I read the same thing a few different times. Freddie foreman’s book and the twins books all state different and chris has said about 3 different counts of this
He probably didn’t! My mates mum left the nhs because they put all elderly housebound cancer patients cause of death as covid even when the couldn’t go to get it if they tryed.
From Lambrianou it's a different story every time. Others tell of big Chris crying his eyes out that night. Not blaming him for that as it must have been awful but as someone whose supposedly a reformed character some honesty would be nice.
ALBERT DONOGUE interviews are the truest, checkout his last interview with Bernard O Mahoney, were Albert past away few weeks after the interview, he gives accurate story’s of who was really tough in London , but with the lambriano brothers he said they were just hangers on!!!
So Donaghue says that the Lambrianous were just hanged on while he was a real hard gangster. I don't suffer this happens to be in his own book by any chance the book where he fails to mention the fact that he was a small time villain who was able to throw his wait about because he used to drive Reggie about and when that ended he quickly found new employment as a grass
Chris is telling the truth, I worked for Connie and it as he says, Chris just turned up for a party it could of been anyone that night they walked into a nightmare, they said nothing and served there time more than the so called gangsters of the time.. god bless good luck Chris.
I've read dozens of books by these old 60s villains and one thing they all have in common is that they all claim that they were the real deal and every one else was a hanger on and a grass but one thing he has never denied is that he was a prosecution witness at their trial and said every thing the police told him to say l wonder how much they slipped him for that
My Dad knew a lot of the "names" who have become famous from the endless books on crime in the 60's. He was a doorman and debt collector in Soho and around South London for a few extra quid as well as his regular job as a chippy. He personally knew Brian Reader,Johnny Dark,Roy James and Eric Mason as mates, loads of other people through being out and about in the same places/area ,what the books call the underworld but he'd never call it that or the people he did jobs for gangsters,criminals yes but usually just dodgy types who were mostly publicans or builders and the so-called "underworld" was what we'd call networking ,people knew what was going on and who was doing it,where they could make a few quid etc,not even close to organises crime. None of those he worked for ever had books written about them because they had brains and didn't strut around like the Krays with their delusions of being Al Capone and they might use muscle but actual serious violence was an exception as it is with any sane person. As he says the ones who wrote the books were generally considered idiots and that's why they did so much prison time,and mostly those books were ghostwritten to jump on the Kray bandwagon. As my old fella said,"most of them couldn't write their own name let alone a bloody book". The only one he met who he does class as a gangster was Ken Noye and he distanced himself from Brian Reader when he got pally with Noye. Most people avoided people like him and the Krays as they were obviously bad news,they didn't admire them. My Dad doesn't claim to have been anything special,certainly not a villain,definitely not a gangster and most of what was going on back then was guys like him getting offered "dodgy" jobs on building sites and in pubs,Jack the Lad types out for a few quid. Only the fools got sucked into the orbit of people like the Krays,they were known and avoided because they were nutters,obviously heading for a fall and their perverted ways was very well known as well.
@@dave8204 just come across your post and I'm wondering if I knew your dad in the early 70s I lived in South London and worked in Soho I knew Johnny dark ghggghggand his crew and many of the local faces I wasn't a serious villain just another Jack the lad doing a bit of ducking and diving to get an extra pound note. You're right nobody thought of them self as gangsters the more serious and heavy criminals were known as the chaps and anyone's acting too flash was said to think he was one of the chaps it was the press who really started using the word Gangster after the Kray and Richardson trials later I met people like train robbers Roy James Tommy whisby and Charlie Wilson none of them considered themselves gangsters it seems the Krays were the only ones who wanted to be seen as such but I was a bit younger than them and they had already gone down when I came on the scene although nobody denied the Krays were hard dangerous men they weren't looked up to most people had considered them a liability with their swaggering and publicity seeking Nowadays any involved in serious crime who operates with others is described as a gangster and some of the young criminals in their hoodies coming up now want nothing more than to see themselves in the paper described as such. Ive seen 13year olds described as Brian's youngest gangster when what he actually is is a thieving little cunt. Ridiculous word most people haven't been in a 'gang ' since they were ten This isn't America where grown men walk around with the name of their gang on the back of their jacket
The twins quickly fled the scene and McVitie's body was deposited, wrapped in an eiderdown and left outside St. Mary's Church, Rotherhithe by Tony and Chris Lambrianou, and Ronnie Bender, who were minor members of the Firm.[3][4]
@@markp620 hi mate no it's now gone. I said The Harts but it was actually just called Harts. Chris L never confirmed it but it may have been another business owned by his friend at the time Tony Hart. Tony was an entrepreneur in the Midlands and had a car wash with Chris amongst other businesses and was planning a car dealership car supermarket ( like those we see now so he was ahead of his time.) Chris L got sent down before they could start all this so none of it materialised. He was a regular at a club on Broad Street in Birmingham called the Rum Runner. Its still a nightclub/ bar now but renamed. I'm a Brummie myself!
Just don't believe he would shot those police if is brother Tony had been stopped. Think in between what he is saying are lies. They were not gangsters they were gofers and treated liked mugs by the krays.
Well you are right Chris Lambrianou was not working for the twins he was involved in serious crime and working with a few good people back then but not the Twins he just got brought in it buy being in the wrong place at the wrong time I know him personally don’t expect you to believe it but he was very Capable of doing that to save his brother
Chris was respected By other well-known villains he was a career criminal had his own interest in the Midlands didn’t want anything to do with the twins he only came down to visit that night it was Tony who was involved with the twins
Chris Lambrianou was a real stand up character, he omly got dragged into the three ring circus the firm had become because of loyalty to his brother Tony. From all the faces that were involved with the Krays Chris and Freddie Foreman appear to be the best, most trustworthy and ultimately likeable of the bunch.
@@poppaleggansquat3640 Can you actually speak English ? Choices ? a bit like the Harry Roberts ,Foxtrot One One killing .. where he could have threatened the three unarmed officers with the gun.. but basically chose to executed them . Look it up .
@@grahamjonathan762 none of them were good business men or they would have been doing what good business men are doing today, bumping tax left right and centre while paying employees bare minimum whilst making vast profits all under the law.
@@alfsmith4936 good one's never see the inside of a prison or the front page of newspapers, they stay in the back out of the spot light doing their business, same way a good gangster never gets caught.
