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Uh.. we have them all over rural northwest Michigan.. i posted it 11 years ago, also... biggest grouping in the states actually, indiana and michigan at the time
Meanwhile in China 🇨🇳 during the period Jan-Aug 2024. Increase installed wind energy capacity Grow by 33,6GW.(4,2 Every month on average) . So on average in China, 1GW of wind energy capacity is built and connected to the electricity grid every week. Every week!!💨💨💨 If the average wind turbine has a capacity of 5 megawatts (MW). The government must install in Average 28,5 New wind turbines every day.Every day💨💨💨 Or 1 wind turbine every 50 minutes.
Good video Matt. I have worked in the wind industry for going on 12 years now in multiple roles. A major factor in the struggle of manufacturers is about 6 years ago, we all got into a race to the bottom. Who could sell the cheapest turbines, most kw per dollar? Who could sell at a loss and make it up on the back end with service contracts? Who could underbid and take service contracts from other OEMs? GE, Vestas, and Siemens all went to war and pretty much destroyed themselves. In the process, the new model onshore turbines lost all the quality and reliability that had been built into them over the preceding decades. There are utilities out there that want to, and have the ability to, build new onshore wind farms. They can't because no one has a turbine to sell them that isn't utter garbage.
Sure it's that. Corruption through very much "free market" state contracts and very much "free market" dei agenda have certainly absolutely nothing to do with it.
Honestly, that sounds about right. A while back I saw a video here on RU-vid that described how absurd Wind's continued dropping prices were given that steel, aluminum, and the various elements going into the gearage are commodities. It's not like solar slow process improvements or microelectronics' rapid shrinkage. I'm not surprised GE and Siemens thought they could get into a price war and survive, they're so large the folks running them start to think they're invincible.
That sucks, I know a lot of farmers who have become hobby farmers with a good wind lease. Probably not you with just 4, but it can still be great consistent income.
Good. Farmers around here took the money for the turbines and now it's impossible to get a good picture of the horizon because they're all over the place. Wind energy and the people who support it can all kick rocks. Not worth the benefit of a few to screw the rest.
Turbine blade fragments seems like such a strawman argument. Why does a ton or two of chips matter but thousands of tons of random trash are just business as usual?
@@2MeterLP As someone that lives in a shoreline community where this debris washed up, any thinking person knows this is a strawman argument. Honestly, the bigger issue from a NIMBY perspective for offshore wind is the Community Benefit Agreements. Because there are so few economical places to land cables, local communities are attempting to extort millions from these companies well beyond the economic value of any impact. This makes the whole thing more expensive and less likely to succeed.
It's all inconsequential. All the trash, all the 'waste' that ends up in the ocean is inconsequential compared to how much shit ends up in the ocean from a single tsunami dragging... an entire fucking town into the sea. If anyone, anyone gave a real shit about the environment they would A: Get back down to about 2 billion people for global population, B: improve the building codes for flood plains and coastal locations so when a tsunami happens the ocean doesn't get 200 million tons of shit dumped into it with entire fucking buildings getting dragged into the sea. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EPjliKVtmUA.html Just look at the amount of shit going into the ocean. They aim for low hanging fruit that accomplishes nothing but looks productive because real changes won't get you elected for another term so you can skim from the taxpayers.
@@bryanshoemaker6120 There was a scientific article out recently where fiberglass was found in increasing concentrations in the ocean adjacent to boat repair facilities
Yesterday the UK switched off its last coal fired generator plant. Over the last year according to figures I have seen from National Grid 32% of electricity was generated from wind whilst apparently only 5% came from solar. On shore wind installations have effectively been banned at the planning stage in recent years although the new government has now lifted the ban
Meanwhile in China 🇨🇳 during the period Jan-Aug 2024. Increase installed wind energy capacity Grow by 33,6GW.(4,2 Every month on average) . So on average in China, 1GW of wind energy capacity is built and connected to the electricity grid every week. Every week!!💨💨💨 If the average wind turbine has a capacity of 5 megawatts (MW). The government must install in Average 28,5 New wind turbines every day.Every day💨💨💨 Or 1 wind turbine every 50 minutes.
@@AlfarrisiMuammar China led the world in the construction of new coal-fired power plants in the first half of 2024, with work beginning on more than 41GW of new generation capacity, data published on Thursday showed. So on average China added 1.6GW of coal for every 1GW of wind capacity.
Having worked in the commercial-scale wind industry for 12-years, now in utility solar, I know the industry extremely well. The vast majority of wind developers transitioned over to being solar developers over the past decade as solar developments take ~2-years to originate to COD, while wind takes: ~7-years to COD, for the same size system, and requires MUCH less equipment and manpower, and, solar availability and yield is higher than wind, and now, solar is less expensive and provides a lower LCOE, in fact, the lowest of all energy sources. As a developer, you have to keep the checks rolling in to pay staff, investors and profit, and solar delivers more checks, much faster. Coupled with battery storage, solar will dominate new energy production until we hit 100%, in the next 2 decades. I predicted wind would taper off to max ~20-25% of total power capacity, for the reasons I mentioned above, and for lack of new low-cost sites, while solar will continue to grow exponentially. If ALL roof space in the U.S. were covered with solar panels, we'd produce ~50% of our power via solar. If you add all parking spaces, you add another 10%, and other dead spaces: 10%, and this doesn't even include large solar fields, which is almost unlimited. No question, solar + BESS will be the dominant energy producer in the near future, and beyond.
The LCOE of solar doesn't include the cost of battery storage to provide power as part of a holistic solution. Solar is nearly free during the daytime if you're using it at the point of generation, but often ignores the grid\distribution costs along with the battery storage costs when used as a primary means of electric generation. You don't need batteries for the first 25% of solar on a grid. But the more % of the mix they make up, the more expensive it becomes because of the additional infrastructure that's required.
Wind prices go up, solar and battery go down. Big squeeze on wind. A million solar panels sounds like a lot, but these wind farms cost billions. I expect that the cost is a solar farm is increasingly dominated by the non-panel bits, labor, wiring, etc.
Resin prices during Covid went nuts, and never really came down as far as I can tell. Any product that uses resins went way up. Those turbine blades are about 50-70% resin.
Another future cost issue will be the dynamo magnets (mostly sourced from China) for the turbines, if there is ever a trade war with China or perhaps an economic collapse there. At some point companies are also going to need to figure out a cost-effective and environmentally safe end of life disposal plan - which will be a huge insurance and share-price hit when government legislation finally catches up (in a couple of decades from now).
@@davidbarry6900 ... erm ... permanent magnets, especially huge industrial ones, in large quantities, are infinitely recyclable. If properly designed, it is almost trivially easy to "recharge" them.
@@danielch6662 that doesn't work if you are still building new wind turbines, only if you are replacing old ones. You need a supply chain. Also, sooner or later, a recycling/reuse chain - which will only happen if the necessary businesses are either profitable or financially supported by government.
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Have you ever paddled your Kayak in a river when the dam starts letting out water? going from about 60 cu ft a sec to 250 in about 2 or 3 minutes is something to behold. lol
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I truly don't understand the pushback on turbines. Where I am in Iowa, we've had them since the mid to late 90's. I remember driving past the massive wind farm on the cropland in the northwest part of the state when I would visit my grandparents. We never heard a bad thing about them; they just stood over the fields and spun, doing their generating thing.
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You see the reasons to be opposed every day. I'm in Kansas, can't take a picture of the sunset without stupid turbines ruining the photo. The turbines ruining the views for everyone for the benefit of a few, it's not worth it.
In Italy, Sardinia is a prime exemple for the community or local government opposition issue, 75% of their energy production is still thermoelectric production with Gas ~34% Coal ~33%, people are protesting and antagonizing solar farm and wind farm both onshore or offshore they are even vandalizing some construction sites, the local government dispanded most of the project and refuse to accept any further application. It's a pity, begin a big island in the middle of the sea offshore wind farm would be an amazing idea in order to reduce the impact and have cheap energy production.
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Because it’s stupid…When are the sustainable freaks going to at least acknowledge their green stuff isn’t “sustainable” and can not be recycled?? What happens with used solar cells, batteries and windmills?? They can not be recycled and spread harmfull microplastics and disturb marine life…
then the government should pivot to roof solar personally i think wind is a bit shit, solar and batteries are the way forward wind should be reserved for extreme high resource locations
Wind energy can definitely be profitable, but not THAT profitable. This is due to a wide array of factors. I work in the industry and it gets quite obvious once you’ve been there. You need a lot of technicians, and a LOT of different systems installed in the turbine to actually make it function properly. The whole thing is complex, and requires many other industries in order to work properly. If you, for example, don’t have large cranes available in an area you can’t repair them when any of the larger components break down (and they ALL break down eventually). A turbine standing still quickly becomes a huge loss as they cost a lot to operate.
It suffered a scale issue that people thought they could engineer out of using the same method. Balloon kites and smaller multi direction turbines carry less support costs. They can also be made far cheaper than people let on.
They pay for themselves in a couple of years (if installed in the right locations), but the NIMBYs make the approval process so fraught you could install a wind farm many times over just for the cost of making it through the approvals. It could be many years to get approvals where you’re making nothing and spending money, then years to build. The US also has cheaper power in than many other countries to start. If it was just building the turbines it’s still the cheapest form of new energy, by quite a margin. Solar is the next closest but in some countries solar during peak daylight hours is already saturating the grid during summer and nearly meeting 100% of the total grid demand alone. More solar in those cases needs batteries to shift the power availability later in the evening.
Electric cars wasn't profitable... Until government subsidies incentives people to invest in scaling up manufacturing to a point where they can compete against gas and it's still struggling. Wind is up against much cheaper energy
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Offshore wind in the USA may not require territory or sea coast in the USA. In the two most eastern provinces of Canada there are several large developments in the near 5GW range on land. Because the areas in question are scarcely populated and have low economic activity these developments well go ahead along with about another 3,700MW's of undeveloped hydropower above the some 8000MW's now developed. All of the proposed wind farms will be located on Crown (ie pubic) lands and at present it will go into the production of Hydrogen and Ammonia to be shipped to Germany but with the proper grid connection, wind generated electricity from eastern Canada could also supply the eastern seaboard of the USA. Another aspect that is coming of age is Hybrid Wind/Wave offshore platforms that generate electricity from wind and waves while sharing the same structural, grid connections and Operation, Engineering and Maintenance services. This could potentially be the biggest boom of all since a 15 MW offshore wind platform would have the capability of generating possibly upwards of 30 to 40 MWs in a single structural platform either fixed or floating. If wind energy is to survive then it must adopt to this Hybrid technology
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Our local power company rents the turbines , then rents the land separately. So far they have at best broken even and usually run a loss , driveing our power prices way up
This is the second dumbest post of the day. P.S. Power prices go up. ALWAYS. I'd love to have the electric prives I had when I was 18. Gas was $1 a gallon back then. However THAT is not how economics works in the modern word. The simple fact is Wing and Solar are right now cheaper than ANY other power source and it is unlikely fossil fuel power will ever be cheaper than renewables again in the future.
Inflation and the fact we may have entered a technical recession 8 months ago have stopped many good projects. Politicians are incapable of seeing the long-term benefits.
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I guess we can eventually be wealthy enough that we can use wind and power to supply power with a fully matched fuel burning turbine grid with electric powered spinning functionality to takeover immediately upon drops in solar and wind. Batteries and flywheels to keep the power clean, with any other energy storage device to decrease the load on the backup burners.
Bar California, the US can't even power itself on a windy day or windy and sunny in the daytime. Storage makes sense when you have excess power but you could just export it to somewhere with that demand. Much easier than gas or oil or coal.
@@stephendoherty8291 the problem is the entire US peak power usage is the same time period. If you could freely transfer power* from CA to NY, 4pm East can use 1pm solar power to run things, and then when 7pm passes in NY you can send power the opposite direction to power CA from East coast power plants. *the cost and power loss would be prohibitive.
It's always local conditions, you have to make an environmental assessment with these as well as with everything else. When there's a boom going on, it can be easy to get blinded by the speed, and only see the wreckage afterwards.
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Big concern, at building, the turbines have been so heavily subsidized by the government without any long-term concern for the ecology of the fisheries on the East Coast. Building thousands of skyscraper sized, wind turbines.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and videos. As a retired power system operator I can say I have experienced the problems large wind turbines can inflict onto the power grid. I was always a fan of small scale wind but the maintenance requirements usually kill them since a skilled climber is often required to work on them. I was really impressed with the Wind Spire vertical turbines but since they have start speeds that disqualifies them for most locations. I was pondering what they needed was a community wind farm solution where you could have it installed at a ideal location that you rent from the farmer and have your electricity delivered to your home by the local utility. Didn’t see that financial model ever coming into existence. Lately I recently discovered community Solar that has solved the problem and offers a similar solution for people that would like solar but are either restricted by codes, ascetics or simply being apartment dwellers. Community solar might make an interesting subject especially since you have the data for on site installation and could run a comparison. I’m guessing they are likely scooping up most of the savings. Wishing you and your family the best.
Community solar or community wind relies on cheap available land and alot of space to compare to one wind turbine. CA has had old wind turbines running alot longer than 25 yrs. Why would a wind turbines power gen be any more grid disruptive than solar in the daytime. Both can be curtailed if there is a grid stability issue. Wind recharges your EV at night unlike solar without a large battery storage
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@JimWilleke In my country the authorities entice citizens to go solar with large subsidies. Then they put the price of other power up whilst reducing the price for your solar excess. Solar has to be linked to the total grid, so then you are completely at the mercy of pricing regulators. I pay more now for all power than I did at the time of my solar installation.
Imagine if all the money spent on massive wind turbines had been spent on forth generation small modular nuclear reactors. The reactors will consume the nuclear waste of older reactors and be able to be online generating power more than 90% of the time.
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@@tilapiadave3234 well I look forward to trying to make out authoritative reporting from a random person on RU-vid comments with no evidence of their own
They had to do something to address inflation after the mess the lockdowns and stimulus money had on inflation. Politicians closed huge sections of production and services that people spend money on, then gave people "stimulus" checks, increasing the supply of money to spend. That's a perfect recipe for major inflation. It's going to be decades before the lingering effects of that fade.
@@Br3ttM you say so little with so many words. unless there is deflation the effects from inflation are already here. they had to cut interest rates recently because ongoing inflation got back down to target levels.
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i remember when i was living cape cod back in 2010 or so they wanted to do a offshore wind farm and people voted against it pretty aggressively saying it would ruin the view, i just learned from your video about the vineyard wind farm so i guess they actually started to do it.
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Existing offshore wind turbine farms are showing that it is the most expensive to produce electricity among all renewable energy sources. Until they can get the cost of electricity produced by these offshore farms down significantly, other renewable energy sources will be more economically attractive.
I could see if you live in a windy area, and or go to camp grounds that are breezy wind energy is good. Nice to have another way like portable wind turbines to charge your Lifepo4 batteries at night and after sunset especially when you are far from the grid. 😊
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Thank you for this analysis. In the first 60 seconds I had posited multiple questions based on your opening statement, which you then proceeded to address in the video. IMO you are one of the finest science and engineering influencers in RU-vid. Keep up the great work!
The current German government has changed legislation to make it much harder for nimbies to block or defer projects like power lines, gas facilities, and solar and wind parks. They have their chances of protesting, but they can't delay those projects for years and years anymore by simply finding another hair in the soup every half a year. One of the worst opponents was the populist government of the state of Bavaria. They absolutely opposed against the "Südlink" (south link) HVDC power line as they did against wind turbines. Südlink alone will transfer up to 4 GW of offshore power from the north sea, is now under construction, and will start to transfer in 2028. More lines are to be built. They heavily propagated solar in Bavaria, but it was overdone - many solar plants can't be connected to the grid due to capacity problems. They also backed the phase-out of nuclear power stations. Now, after the shutdown of russian gas pipelines, the suddenly see that they better had some local alternatives. So they now turned around 180 degrees and try to persuade local communities to accept wind parks and gave their OK for buildin power lines - on behalf of industry and businesses. Concerning wind parks, Germany has plans to extend its capacities onshore and offshore massively. Earlier, the damn bureaucracy had delayed the construction of offshore wind parks by many years, ruining the original calculations as the material and labour prices went up massively in the mean time. But they are starting over, and large capacities have been put out to tender successfully with even more bidders applying than there was capacity requested. In the US it may be simply the abundance of cheap gas. Out of 4,000 TWh electric energy produced in the US every year 1,800 TWh are gas-based. So wind turbines habe to compete with that (even nuclear has its problems competing; compare the failure of NuScale). To my knowledge, electric production with gas is about 4,7 cents/kWh, and wind is probably more expensive. In Germany, for comparison, gas is the most expensive option with well over 10 cents/kWh (up to 28), while wind onshore is at 6-7 cents and offshore at 7-9. I think the US should introduce a carbon tax soon and phase out their ways of wasting precious ressouces.
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Mat, that was a good summary of wind industries difficulties. Can you something on tidal energy. It's way more predictable then either wind or solar and seems to be less venerable to public objections?
Two big problems with renewables: first of all you have to borrow all the money for the project up front, and can't start paying back until it is built. With a gas or coal plant, most of the cost is fuel and you can pay for that as you use it. Second problem with off-shore wind on the east coast, fairly close to where you need a lot of power is that storms happen. One more big problem: maintenance is going to require expensive technicians being forced to live in very expensive communities to go out and work in dangerous conditions. Good luck getting that done on the cheap.
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TLDR: The US is BIG compared to Europe and wind distribution is a huge pain in the ass. Solar is easier to tie to the grid and easier to store the energy.
Europe and the US are about the same size, so what are you trying to say here? That said, Europe, being mostly a collection peninsulas on the greater western super-peninsula of Asia, does have comparatively much more shoreline than the US has.
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A half ass solution to a minor factor. We are already loosing the economic war with China and cutting the Jones Act without anything to replace it other than the "free market" would be detrimental factors over any benefits the corporations (i.e. not energy customers) would see.
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Just like it is possible to recycle electric vehicle batteries. It's just more expensive than getting new materials or assemblies from countries where they don't pay people as much or seem to care about their safety.
this pattern of failure is classic among American industry. the problems include over specialization, gigantification, industrialization, burdensome regulation, etc. One of the many benefits of wind (and solar) is its widely available. Yet the industrial spirit is to focus on giant single use farms that arent exactly where the power is needed. The best way to take advantage of wind (and solar) is to apply it locally, especially where height is free, i.e. rooftops, bridges, etc. Wind (and solar) is extremely successful in smaller scale operations like family farms, sailboats, suburban campuses, weather stations, firetowers, etc (which didnt require any subsidies, grants, tax breaks, etc)
Cars put billions of tons of gas into our atmosphere and nobody cares, but ONE turbine blade breaks some fiberglass into our oceans and people get up in arms! Insanity.
Kyle Hill did a video about a nuclear waste site. He stood touching a cask, Geiger counter in hand... nothing. Then he asked, "And where is the pollution from coal?" then he inhaled and exhaled loudly, then stared at the camera until the credits rolled.
Watch the videos of the plastic and garbage streaming into the oceans through the rivers in 3rd world countries. Tons of the stuff per day out of a single river. One or two turbine blades every few years isn't a speck compared to that.
It is a fact. We as human are very comfortable with huge existing risks/pollution, but incredibly worried about anything that is new. "There is a pool hall being built in our community"
solar is great, but wind helps on scale. For solar you need a lot of rootfops (solar belongs to rooftops, especially commercial ones or warehouses) but adoption is slow. As you said, one needs millions of panels. Wind, with a hundred of well places and well designed turbines can do the same. People are unfortunately extreme at times with their NIMBY. They should pay for the opportunity cost. Like: you do not want to see a turbine (that is beautiful btw), then pay the opportunity cost of it. When the wallet hurts, people will think twice. In any case we need more storage to shift at least a couple of hours the peak production (for wind in the night, solar in the day) to those peak hours usages.
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I work in planning in the UK for the Leicestershire area. In the 7 years I’ve been doing this I’ve seen many planning applications for solar farms, but not one for wind. Even in a country with little sun, solar seems to be preferable. There is wind power here, but they were built years ago - no new ones. I believe most of the new UK wind projects are offshore.
@@TrailBikeMike there was a law stopping new onshore wind farms. Introduced by Theresa May as she didn't like the look of them. Hence no planning applications as it was pointless.
The North Sea is fairly shallow, and extremely windy. It's great for wind farms, and putting them at sea means they can be much larger which means more efficient plus you don't have to transport the blades along roads which is really hard to do (they don't fit around corners well and cause escorted shipments and road closures). Wind is good. Solar is good. Both is better. We need it all. Anyone running a country that's not not investing in wind is a fool.
Part of the reason is the previous government put onshore wind on hold, with a single objection _de facto_ ban legislation. This caused to deployment focus to shift to offshore wind, that said there are 756 operational onshore wind farms spread round the UK, a further 277 onshore wind farm projects under constructions or due to start constructions and another 407 in the planning stage. Liecestershire being a central county seem less favoured for onshire wind projects, which mainly cluster around the coast and upon hills/ridgeways.
I've long felt that decentralizing the overall power generation system was key to it's stability & profitability. Smaller installations like Aeromine or Turbulent for wind & water respectively had great potential to keep costs low. At the same time encouraging local power generation & having a far lesser effect on the local ecosystem. I would hope to see less of the mega dam & turbine projects in exchange for more rural & urban systems that take advantage of the unique geography of these less outage prone options. Then there is the end of life issues..
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I think the biggest problem with wind power is that it doesn't scale . The barrier for entry is literally and figuratively enormous where was solar you can do big or small fairly easily. Wind conceptually makes a lot of sense but until there are widely available scalable technologies it will lag behind
Wind can be seen for miles, so I can see why it could bother some. Solar is much lower profile and definitely blends into the environment much more and price of solar seems to keep falling at a faster rate.
How does it not scale? You just put more wind turbines out there, and you have more energy. That's exactly the same as solar. Plus, wind is often stronger at night, which complements solar very well. Now, it may be less useful if your local seas are unusually deep, or your land has truly unusually low wind, but electricity moves internationally, and soon, intercontinentally. You don't have to generate it on site.
What's the size of a typical solar panel? 250W? In that case, you'd need 6000 solar panels, to make up for one large Onshore wind turbine. And at least, you can use the soil below the wind turbines, for farming.
6:01 I've been wondering what these very large black (with red+white rings on top) towers on these ships are for, after seeing one of these in the local harbor. Are these towers just used to create a large counter balance mass to oppose the forces from the crane and other parts on the ship or are they some kind of shelving system used to secure the large loads to? Figured I asked here, because channels like these tend to have at least one person that is an expert at any particular subject that's shown in the videos.
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@@MarkBarrackThe impacts of burning coal extend well beyond their visibility or zoning. Besides coal plants have often been built within close proximity of poor folk’s homes. They just lacked the political power to stop it.
I saw a video where another type of wind turbine was very different from the traditional versions of wind turbines, it's connected to a tree and whenever the wind blows and the branches sway, it produces electricity.
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The thing is there are household sized windmills that will produce power in wind as mild as 5mph, and given that cloudy weather puts a dent in power production. Home sized windmill generators would have been helpful in the aftermath of Helene, especially given that power won't be restored for weeks in some places. Yeah windmills would probably not worked out well during the hurricane
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Lots of available options in the renewable sector. Focusing on just a couple is how the US did with petroleum based transportation. Look at the issues we have had there…. OPEC led embargoes, higher prices that stifle our economy, irresponsible (not all) fracking that jeopardizes our ground water… I for one am glad to see those problems go away! I continue to look forward to a future with multiple distributed energy sources supplying our green future. Not one that relies on a narrow approach but one that can ride out shortages in one sector or another as we work with the natural world in a mutually beneficial direction that leads us to sustainability.
None of those issues are going away though...China controls like 90% of the resources involved in "green" energy, which could easily be controlled by them to hurt a country's economy; renewable energy generation is still much more expensive than fossil fuels so those high prices can also stifle the economy, and batteries and other components in "green" energy are also harmful to our soil and groundwater (heck, we better hope ethanol never spills into a river/lake! Or lithium for that matter.). You're just trading one harmful issue for another...nothing has been solved.
I don't like how he didn't compare it to the alternatives much. Last 4 years have been wild weather wise, but geopolitically making oil prices sketchy. Between the Red Sea/Isreal, Russia, Venezuela, etc. Worlds a mess even if we are seeing peak US oil production balancing it out. Wind Turbines are still better than gas even if predictions are off. A company lying about the real cost, unheard of! Sounds like a regulatory problem too. Other countries are doing well. Too bad we don't go nuclear. I am just waiting for pervoskites to go mainstream. Batteries prices are dropping significantly for energy storage as well, and so many technologies being tested. Only issue I have with nuclear is how centralized it is.
@@dianapennepacker6854 Nuclear is bad with large ongoing costs. The lone exception is deep geothermal which uses the heat generated by radioactive decay within the earth. Nuclear above ground is also a potential target for acts of terror. Where do we put the waste and how do we get it there safely?
@@JeffKantin Renewables are safer and cheaper than fossil fuels today, Methods of harnessing without/reduced rare metals are either available now or in the near future depending on which you are referring to. Supply always lags demand but the stakes and potential payoff are driving the future now.
The fact that 2023 was the lowest year for new wind capacity since 2014 really puts things in perspective. It’s striking how factors like inflation and material costs can halt progress so quickly. It’s reassuring to see new offshore wind developments in the pipeline.
The only way for the offshore farms to be profitable is to charge more for its power. Green power was supposed to be green and CHEAPER. No one wants to pay more for their electricity.
I've always said that Wind and Solar are GREAT for supplemental energy and diversifying the energy grid. But they are NOT reliable. Nuclear is the clear winner on all fronts and needs to be our primary go-to for clean, reliable, avundant, and safe energy.
Nukes have very limited locations where they make sense. Most of the USA is not well suited for nuclear power, and it should not be used near waterways. There are places it does make sense and should be used, but we do not have anybody qualified to select those places in the USA and may never be able to educate people enough to select proper sites. Very sad that we must ban nukes simply because they will be placed in the wrong areas four to lack of wisdom and education. Perhaps in a few decades the understanding might be developed…
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We absolutely expected the rollout to renewable energy sources to be slow and bumpy. I think we've actually been VERY lucky to date. We knew it was going to be painful. In some ways, the pain is more proof of concept than the success. "Life is pain, highness. Anybody who tells you differently is selling something"
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In the UK though we get around 40% of all the wind that hits Europe around our coasts so wind power is going to play the major part for our energy transition especially now the new Labour government have lifted the ban on new land wind turbines. Saying that, we do have extensive solar, especially rooftop solar helped by % 0 tax on battery storage and some good tariffs when buying excess and exporting to help with grid balancing, you can even get paid to use excess electricity sometimes.
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I live Albany NY and we have wind power construction facilities locally. I hope the offshore wind projects in the region get back on track because I like green power and green power industry jobs.
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you can hurry up and build wind generaor on shore and off shore, but the grid is not up to standard to accept the additional generation. There is no budget to upgrade the grid.
NIMBYists hate upgrading power lines even more than they hate wind turbines. The West Coast keeps having issues providing enough power in the summer for all the AC, because the grid hasn't kept up with population. Dealing with the load would benefit from variable price rates for electricity and smart devices, but customers don't want to deal with that, and most smart devices come with stupid cloud connections.
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People here just talk about the blades, probably because they're the most visible, but there's also everything else like gearboxes, motors, tons of tons of oil that has to be changed, and the whole towers and foundations. The foundations are usually left in place after tearing down a tower. Also road maintenance because they always have to get to them for endless maintenance.
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have a look at California where RWE builds the first commercial-scale floating Windpark, and also New York Bight. Both currently in development, but its something :)
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I have a better question. Why does the US suck at nuclear??????? Why do we locate nuclear at places we know will be at horrible risk of failure just because nature will win every single time?
The main problem with nuclear power in the US is new facilities not getting built at all, and that's a combination of fear, excessive regulation, and a long time for investments to pay off.
Matt, I live in Westport (yes, that one) and those two recent failures that landed debris on Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard, Westport, and other local communities has only added fuel to the opposition to off-shore wind farms. One brief look at the local social media can show you what I mean. I'm sure you've seen the complaints from those opposed to off-shore wind farms as to the destruction of the ecology and marine wild life that it causes. I personally have not seen enough data one way or another to make up my mind on the subject. But, I am willing to keep an open mind.
I live nearby and honestly the blowhards on social media seem to be the same people posting nonsense about other topics too. No science, just rants. Luckily, policy isn't decided on social media.
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How about covering the fact that the UK, who invented the coal fired power station kicking off the industrial revolution, has in the last week, turned OFF its last coal fired power plant, paving the way for other countries to follow suit
I live in the Midwest, and did a wind survey myself; back in 2012, or something like that. I came up with an offshore string from Racine, WI, to Burns Harbor, IN .. yeah that's the most consistent wind around here, combined with the most reasonable water depths. but the problems are political ... because most people, unfortunately, have been disqualified from being considered politically correct on the grounds that we are not black.
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I think it's because they have been illegally hauling livestock feed out near burns harbor ... this isn't funny over here, we have been rapidly running out of topsoil and fossil water resources, and that's when you realize African heroin is a transparent foreign weapons system that has been on the ground and active in the United States since I don't know when, and allowed to get away with murder for a bit too long.....but don't talk to them about it, they generally get information about the reset of us faster than we do about them as it is.
we have been rapidly running out of topsoil and fossil water resources. people have been trying to figure out who is in charge of all the "humanitarian aid" to sub-saharan africa, and people have been getting killed ..it turns out there has never been any rational person in control of those exports ... their heroin had gotten into the paleo-anthropological sciences also, we have had site data, for 80 years, graphically depicting a species invasive breach which occurred about 2 million years ago ... now we have genetics linked to the only possible descendants of that breach with sub-saharans.....they carry species invasive dna ..... so ow we now why they breed faster than the food grows......the problem is, they will never be able to un-learn that....they are genetically adapted to cannibalism for the same reason, and that's why they go until there is nothing left.
I think part of the issue is that a lot of the projections I've seen on future projects were using Moore's law in projecting costs that were not realistic. They thought material would get cheaper as production went up just skipping over when demand goes up on a limited resource price will naturally go up ... and there is pressure on every country to increase their demand. China's issues are another factor causing delays and increases in costs.
They are making the same mistake nuclear power did, the accountants think one big one is cheaper than two small ones. So they are building giant turbines that are beyond the limits of the materials. So the blades are failing, the towers buckle, the gearboxes shred and the brakes fail in strong winds making for spectacular fires. Factor in reliability and smaller turbines make more sense.
Or they're paid to build it and not based on what it makes, so if generates a single watt before it blows it's the same as a 20 year run to the builders. Incentives matter, therefore drop government subsidies.
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@@msromike123 Tens of thousands of past and existing wind turbines have conclusively proven they can generate electricity, NOW, today, and in the future. SMNRs are currently only a wet dream of over-eager engineers, and public-subsidy harvesting utilities. NONE exist today, and even by the admissions of the many vendors (check their websites), will not be commercially available until the next decade -- ASSUMING the designs work, something that has not yet been conclusively proven. Selecting phantasies over reality is dangerously poor energy policy. But it IS so American.
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@@UndecidedMF05 HI Matt -- sorry, but I do not understand this reply. What's "WA"? Please try again, thanks. Also, a reply I made to another who replied here seems to have been deleted/rejected. It was a rebuttal to his/her SMR advocacy, FYI. Be well, keep on doing.
The population at large assumes that wind generation projects will go off perfectly? After all, these projects have been promoted as clean, with little to no negative impacts ever mentioned. They're also typically remotely sited. So when bits of a failed turbine blade wash up on the shores of Nantucket, the backlash from the well-heeled is swift, certain and loud. "How dare you!" Let's get real! No construction project goes 100% to plan. Additionally, "stuff" happens. Wind farms are being held to an impossible standard of perfection. For me, years or decades of emission-free electricity generation from wind are well worth any temporary inconvenience from construction, minimal impacts to vistas from wind farms far offshore, the extremely rare instance of debris from blade failure, and the costs associated with recycling blades at end-of-life. What the population at large chooses to overlook are the immense costs to health and the environment from digging up dinosaurs, pumping the goo out of the earth, refining and transporting the finished product everywhere, only to burn it once at a maximum efficiency of 27% (gasoline) to 37% (diesel): • An estimated 5.13 million excess deaths worldwide annually are attributed to burning fossil fuels. • The US oil and gas industry receives $754 billion annually in implicit subsidies; costs like negative health impacts and environmental degradation that are borne by society at large rather than producers. • Fugitive methane emissions are a huge problem. To put it in perspective, studies have shown that the aggregate emission rate observed across large portions of the country’s 12 major production basins would amount to 7.5 million metric tons per year *(or about 860 metric tons of methane pollution every hour). That’s enough wasted gas to meet the annual energy needs of over half of U.S. homes.* • Disasters such as the Exxon Valdez (11 million gallons of oil), Deepwater Horizon (3.19 million barrels, or 134 million gallons of oil) and others. • An estimated 3.2 million abandoned oil wells in the US, 32,000 offshore, are ecological ticking time bombs. But, hey, if it's not me or mine dying, or my beach isn't being affected, I'm all good. As long as my energy bill remains low, I'm fine with all that rest of that stuff. When are people going to wake up?
I've been telling you Windmills can only put in about 10% some can put in 15% are there maximum rated output just like solar And like Enron when to get credit for 100%
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Storage technology is growing in leaps and bounds and storage for a year is not needed but for temporary storage. Wind varies greatly in localized area, but over large areas like the US it is relatively constant +- 5%. You just us the Grid to move it from one location to another and use storage for peak usage times and as a reserve.
@@SweBeach2023 The US already has a national grid. Any new power project includes connecting to that grid. However, the US grid does need renewal/upgrading in general and especially in Texas which has a standalone grid.
@@edl653Here's a hint for you - power lines have a limit to the amount of electricity they can carry before they melt. You're saying we can just 'use the Grid to move (electricity) from one location to another.' - 'SweBeach2023' replies saying 'creating such a grid is very costly' You reply 'The Us already has a national grid.' You're assuming that the grid, as it stands, has enough transport capacity to bear the localized shortfalls of large-scale wind. It doesn't. It's estimated that a decentralized grid that could handle what you're proposing costs about four times as much as the centralized grid we currently have. But hey, it isn't a discussion about green energy without ridiculous amounts of double standards and hypocrisy. Constant complaints about how coal/oil/gas/nuclear only 'seem' cheaper because they don't include 'externalised' costs. (such as environmental costs) Meanwhile, solar and wind are just plug and play! They don't need any grid adaptations! Batteries are so good! Include them in wind/solar costs? Perish the thought! Environmental impact of wind/solar? Doofus, it's in the name - 'green energy'! Stop being so silly!
The Houston evacuations ordered in La Porte amid a roaring pipeline fire seems like it would make wind safety a lesser issue. How long before another Deepwater Horizon or Valdez?
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Ironically, wind turbines have large gearboxes (to turn the slow-moving high-torque input into a faster, less-torque output for the generators). Each gearbox contains up to 800L (!!) of gear oil. Gearbox failures aren't that rare, neither are mishaps during routine maintenance work, leading to oil spills. They are less "green" than you might think, in the sense that when something goes wrong, particularly for coastal deployments, the results can have far-reaching environmental impacts...
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I don't know if its true or not, but around here people say that they spend energy to make the turbines spin when there's no wind to keep people from blowing up the phones about the turbines not working. It makes people not like them.
Why don't we just use nuclear instead of using massive amounts of land and air space that solar and wind use? How is it green energy when it takes acres and acres and acres of land to get practically no energy out of them.
Because the only nuclear energy that is feasible with current technology is using uranium. The uranium reserve is large enough to cover 100 years at current rate of consumption. That covers 5% of the energy we use globally. If we went all in on nuclear, the uranium reserve would last 5 years! I know that sound crazy, so try to google it yourself. Some might argue that we can extract uranium from seawater, but they don't understand the second law of thermodynamics. The same goes for thorium and breeder reactors. They simply don't work well enough, and the thorium reserve is about the size of the uranium reserve.
Nuclear is a baseload power source. Electricity demand fluctuates greatly over the day. Nuclear power takes months to start and stop properly. If you don't meet the exact electricity demand at any moment it can damage all of the generators on the grid and cause brown outs or surges.
@@CheapPartscaster But we won't see a global roll-out of nuclear power tomorrow. So access to uranium is a bit of a none-issue at the moment. Imagine if we had decided to dismiss the Otto engine back in 1860 because back then it only seem like we had oil for a small number of vehicles and this only for a few decades. What I'm trying to say is that we could build a large number of nuclear power plants right now, and if it seems like fuel can become a bit of a problem in a hundred years so be it.
@@PokerKing1993 For the same reason wind is struggling. Solar is just a lot less expensive. And the land area you need can be over a parking lot or roof or in a desert where you can improve grazing.
Altoona Pennsylvania is in the middle of the mountains. The Mountains were a great location for turbines, lining the top of the mountains. There is a problem, however. They found that the turbines were chopping up hundred to thousands of endangered bats, which come out at night, and fly over the mountains. The local eco groups sued, and now those turbines must be halted any time that the Sun isn't shining. When word got out that the primary period that the turbines were needed (to supplement the total lack of solar at night) resulted in a whole lot of jobs lost trying to install the turbines.
Seems like there are a ton of obstacles to overcome; cap ex, misinformation, oil industry sycophants, etc.... Seems to be a solid technology, but the "startup costs" (so to speak) are always going to be painful.
Ever hear of bottom up revolutions? The scientific and industrial revolutions, and hydrocarbon fuels and maritime shipping, and diesel powered construction equipment, trucking, aviation, and private motor vehicles are examples. This "green energy" scam is a top down revolution and like all other top down revolutions in history, it will collapse.
I still like solutions that people can install at their homes, like solar. No transmission issues and no worries about power failures due to problems 50 miles away. I'd like to see more home based windmills like they had in the old West 200 years ago. Or maybe person nuclear generators like Back to the Future's Mr. Fusion.
I have been working in offshore wind for the past 2.5 years and worked in onshore in the U.S. for many years before that. Between the projects I have worked on in Europe and South Fork wind, which I commissioned this past year. The main issue concerning offshore wind in the U.S. that was not mentioned in this video, is the Jones Act. On one hand it is a good law that helps keep and promote maritime and manufacturing jobs for Americans. But when it comes to a new industry like offshore wind, we simply don’t have the proper resources for making these projects profitable. We need U.S. built Installation vessels, currently there are 0. Soon there will be one. The barge system we used at South Fork, and continue to use at Revolution and Vineyard wind. Is a system that will work, but massively increases the amount of time it takes to build a wind farm. It’s understandable though, investors don’t want to put up many millions of dollars on a vessels they don’t know will be profitable or not. Being the first one to do it, is not cheap. That’s why Dominion and Seajacks worked together to develop the Charybdis WTIV.
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None of the problems mentioned are exclusive to the US and the rest of the world kept installing and making profits out of this turbines. the real reason this industry is having a hard time in that country must be a different one. I'd love a video that really goes into details on what's different for the Us, maybe the grid is more obsolete maybe the oil industry is extra powerful, maybe the nonsense on wind by certain politician scared off investors there...
Wind just isn't a reliable source of energy. It's very inefficient as they have specific parameters they can operate. It can't be too windy or you can't run it.
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In the space of 20 football fields, molten salt nuclear reacotors (MSNR's) can produce as much power as all the wind turbines in the world. So why is the wind turbine a logical choice? Modular MSNR's can be built in factories, closely monitored to ensure accurate tolerances to provide the best power plant on earth and by far the cheapest price!!!!! The MSNR manufacturer's need to be the on site power companies as well. Why you might ask? Because they will then manufacture the best product, knowing they will have an income stream the continues for decades upon decades. These companies need to be public and all employees need to be vested 100% in these companies for their retirements. In this way, they will make the best power plants on earth for us and for themselves. They and their families can never sell their shares. If they have no families, their shares will revert back to the company for resale to reduce the cost of energy. Even after they no longer work for the manufacturer/utility company, they may not sell their equity. It is their retirement plan. If they have everything vested in the success of the company, and it's a regulated industry, they will do their best to make the company the best it can be. And they should be rewarded appropriately for their work.
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The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine. I don't see how this tech could replace fossil fuel. Nuclear is the only tech I see that could, but it first needs to be given permission. The French have come up with a way to recycle the spent fuel rods and make them useable again. They even came up with a "safe use" for the plutonium generated in the recycling process. The best place for nuclear is the Dakotas, but they don't have the political will to make it happen. They are centrally located without being in tornado alley. They are also geologically stable (AKA no earthquakes). Sense they are in the middle of the continent, it makes them a difficult military target to hit. The only dangers left are blizzards, wild fire, and weirdos. Apparently, I am not a big fan of big wind.
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