Hey Dan - Thank you for taking the time and effort to product this excellent, easy to follow, video tutorial on the placement of smoke/CO detectors - it solved the questions among the members of our family.
Praise God!! Thanks Mr. Dan!! You’re truly awesome!! I thank God for you and your knowledge…you answered my questions I’ve been trying to get answered all day!
I am a mortgage broker specializing in Reverse Mortgages and I deal with elderly clients and THIS VIDEO has been invaluable to them. There are many similar videos all over YT, but Dan Leech is hands down THE BEST. His delivery is plain and clear and pleasant and cuts to the chase. I thank you Dan and my clients thank you. You have wrought a good work here that has helped many people de-mystify the smoke detector and carbon monoxide detector proper placement issue. THANK YOU SIR!! ( I have sent this link to many people )
Thank you for a very clear, brief and comprehensive also understandable explanation. I have just bought an alarm and the positional instructions (except the don't position instructions) were rather vague. Regards Gareth Jones Isle of Wight England.
Dan I like your video so thank you. I will say this though. I have a large kitchen and have 2 smoke detectors in there. Are they a nusance sometimes (yes) but i've been to hundreds of kitchen fires starting out as a pan or pot on the stove left unattended(food onthe stove) that progressed to a full blown kitchen fire. I call them cheap insurance. Second I also have heat, smoke and CO detectors in my garage. Lots of people have electric start for there cars and the range on them is pretty good. It wouldnt take much if the remote was in your pocket jingling around to accidentally start your car in the garage without you knowing it. I had 2 smoke detectors in my basement. neither one went off when some juice from a baked ham spilled in the oven making alot of smoke. The dectors did not go off because the smoke airflow was going in a different direction from the detectors.. I fixed that by putting multiple detectors thru out the basement. Put multiple detectors thru your house!!! I have 7 alone on my first floor (1200 square feet). 2 in the kitchen(cooktop,double wall ovens) 1 in the laundry room(dryer fires) 2 at the bottom of my stairs, 1 in the living room,1 in the dinning room. In my opinion photoelectric are better than ionization detectors. (LOOK UP IONIZATION VS PHOTOELECTRIC DETECTORS) There is no excuse not to have or install these. There a lousy $10 on sale Stay safe everyone Greg A Hartford Fire Ct Department Retired
Hi! I have air returns about 10 inches from a bedroom's door. I have a fan in that bedroom as well. So, is it ok to install the dual smoke detector about 15 inches from the air return?
Just to point out... If you have a CO and Explosive gas detectors unit combo, you should refer to the user manual. The model I own recommend the detector to be near the ground if you use a propane tank and high from the ground if you use natural gas. For the CO, it does not matter. But for the explosive gas, it does matter: Propane sink, natural gas rise...
What is this context ? CO is different than a fuel ie propane or nat gas, which themselves are different. Which model do you own that detects both CO and XGas ?
CO is ssslightlu lighter than air, but it’s so close that movement in the space (like people) will mix the CO and oxygen fairly evenly. The ceiling is fine.
How close is “too close to fuel combustion type devices”? I have a small condo and nothing is very far from anything else. My furnace and water heater are in a kitchen closet with bifold doors.
check out the NFPA requirements for carbon monoxide detection. That is where those people are getting their information regarding placement on the wall, etc. If your an inspector you should know this though. Good luck to you on further videos.
So you don’t put one in the kitchen,? Also my plans are requiring, I hard wire them together so can I just wire one floor or do booth floors all have to be wired together? The floors are separate units separated by a 1 hour fire rated ceiling.
Thanks for the video, very helpful! I do have a question! I'm renovating a house in the Philippines and I'm pretty certain their has never been a smoke or carbon monoxide detector in the 70+ year old house. We have a 2 burner propane cook-top and the propane tank inside the house. This is common practice there. I'm installing smoke and carbon monoxide detectors per the instructions and your general advice. Was wondering if a detector for "explosive gases" should be installed and if so, where? Near the tank/cook-top? Thanks in advance!
my answer to you is other than fire extinguisher refill technian you are the most safety concious fiillpino I have ever herd of my dad was from batangas I wanted to Major in fire protection but had trouble taking classes I think one of the concernig things I say is did you know the company that makes kidde fire extinguisher is called UTC and they denied my claim for a recalled smoke alarm and until I went on social media and left a horrifically negative review with a report titled notice of child endangerment ? as for explosive gas alarms in homes of cheap models still about 70.00 US dollor in the U.S dont know how much in the rp that leaves BRK/ First alert but I have seen claims that their model may not work reliably unfortunately dont know what to tell you if you were in the U.S I could recommend a different more expensive model that I think has a greater chance of working ps did you know these thing contain chemicals so there is not really a chance that you would be allow to export a dangerous chemical to another country ?
So you don’t put one in the kitchen,? Also my plans are requiring, I hard wire them together so can I just wire one floor or do booth floors all have to be wired together?
Great Video!! I didn't know Steve Martin was going around as Dan Leech!! LOL!!! SOOOOO, my question is what do you do with the old Smoke Alarms and CO2 alarms? Thanks!! You're one crazy guy.
please Dan ...if you know...diagram to connect a pull station just NO/NC contact....with a 120v smoke detector ...with or without a sm120x module....would be great
my question is a work at a 3 floor apt bld. the tenant wants a cmd in her unit i was told they need one because she lives right above the boiler room is this right kx common sense goes long way classic ha
🙏Thank you sir!!🙏 Daddy died and he always had the answers to my questions and I could always count on him. RIP Daddy.😭😢 Thank you for helping us daddy less daughters out here!! 🤗💞🤗
For bedroom smoke detectors, you say to install them close to the door. But that is where the air exchanger vents are located in my rooms. Others said to install them in the center of the room. But that is where the light fixture is located. So, where would you recommend in that case? Does it really matter?
I would suggest you consult the national fire alarm code its called nfpa 72 but I think it says something like must be 3 feet from a heat exchange and I am pretty sure there is supposed to be a distance from a light fixture I am not sure I am also not a fire alarm technician but my advice woud be check the above named code nfpa 72 and see if it is not address there good luck !!! also did you know the type of smoke detectors you use can make a difference between life and death have you seen this video ???? it was done by a group that one of my former bussiness conslutants is a member on this was done on good moring america : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9k-EgjYEIgg.htmlsi=yJcxhsB1Ohrf9uG1 and did you know that a us court case stated that the combination is not a safer alternative to ion or photo my former bussiness consultant now on the smoke alarm committe stated if you want both sensors its better to have separate alarms than a combo sensor : Here us a U.S court case stating the combo is not safer than ion or photo : caselaw.findlaw.com/court/al-supreme-court/1746520.html
You should also install 520 HZ frequency alarms in the bedroom areas. As this is required by code as of 2015 (year may be wrong). Also consider tying them to the building audio system. Fewer devices needed this way.
Some people are reluctant to replace old 9v smoke detectors with 10 year non replaceable lithium ion because of the initial cost. The problem with this thinking is that all smoke detectors have a functional life span and should be replaced after 10 years. The total expense spread over 10 years is about the same because you will use (20) 9v batteries in a 9v detector and the total cost will be about the same as one 10 year lithium detector.. And over that 10 year period, your body may reach the point where you will no longer be capable of climbing a ladder to change batteries twice a year.
What if I install the carbon/smoke detector far away from the stove in the kitchen? Let's say 10 feet away? I feel that the kitchen is one of the most important place to put a smoke/carbon monoxide detector....
The best way in to install 2xCO detectors 1 at 1meter above the floor and another 1 meter below the ceiling. CO goes up or down depending the densisty of the air arround ! Normally goes down!
Don't know what to tell you but I bought the 10 year type. Checking all the dates on the units and within one year they were alerting that the batteries were dead. My recommendation is to buy units you can replace the batteries in. Don't get scammed by big corporate. Be smart and save a few bucks in the process
Just get them both separately don’t be cheap with safety especially with kids. CO placement in bedrooms should be placed at sleeping nose level. That is the earliest detection while your sleeping. Think of these as needing to breathe in order to work properly. Put in the best place in the room to get the most air. (Not outside air)all rooms are different, layout is different with diff furniture placements. Install where it can breathe the most air in that room. Use common sense and it will work if needed.
I was gonna make fun of him about 44sec... But then I watched it through and I thought but he right.... He really right. he made a nigga feel safe.. he said a little common sense goes a long way 💯 lmao
Simply delightful! However, choosing a 10 year battery smoke alarm is now an outdated concept in light of ULs new requirements: 217, 8th edition & 268, 7th edition smoke alarm / detector standards. Placing the detector closest to the middle of the ceiling, away from vents & fans is optimal, according to credible sources. A 10-year-battery life sealed ionization smoke alarm does not trump the new UL 217 & 268 smoke alarm / detector requirements - see ULs website. Also, ionization smoke alarms are notoriously unreliable & have been the source of many lawsuits in fatal fires, so please CHECK what you have & convert to non-sealed photoelectric or UL rated 217, 8th edition type. 9 volt lithium batteries are available if you want longer battery-operated smoke alarm operation times. I've installed professional grade CO detectors, which wire to an alarm panel & directions specify to install approx. 48" above the floor - credible manufacturer specs on a listed life-safety-device.
If you buy a 10 year Carbon Monoxide detector, note the date of manufacture that is stamped inside the unit. The warranty goes from the date the unit was manufactured, not the purchase date. This also tells you when you really need to replace it if it does indeed last 10 years. You really don't know how long the unit was sitting on the shelf at the retailer before you purchased it, so it's good to know.
Ours went off and we had to leave house. Then came the questions on location. Mine was on hearth and it worked. I based this on what may be a lie. A mom riding in back seat with child on lap. Child died due to gas coming up toward roof. Mom was not hurt as she was above level when child died. Now I am not sure this was a true story.
The main confusion I run into is people confusing carbon monoxide (CO) and carbon dioxide (CO2). Carbon monoxide (CO) is a byproduct of certain types of combustion, and is essentially the same density as normal air. While carbon dioxide (CO2) is a heavier than normal air, and in high enough concentrations will sink to the lowest point in the area until it mixes into the surrounding air given enough time and air movement. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the same gas found in your soda and beer, and is harmless unless found in very large quantities in enclosed spaces. Carbon monoxide (CO) is what we want to detect in homes, as it is a byproduct of combustion that can overcome your bodies ability to absorb normal Oxygen (O2) even in low quantities. It is not heavier than normal air, and will travel throughout the home. It will accumulate in our blood over time, and can cause headaches and fatigue. You can be suffocated without even realizing what is happening. We had a propane heater in our home malfunction, and we were being exposed to carbon monoxide every night in our bedroom for months until we figured out the source of our headaches and fatigue. This was before carbon monoxide detectors/alarms were required or available.
I noticed that you never stated anything about a smoke detector in a kitchen, only not to install a carbon monoxide detector in the kitchen. Is that correct?
Here's a question, what are people supposed to do when cars are setting off the carbon monoxide detectors in their house with the fumes from the cars driving by on the road. Rather than simply test for it to say oh you need this or that just so you are aware, why not come up with something to actually fix the problem Mr. Teacher who thinks he knows how to smoke....
No it does not. A gas LESS dense than air would tend to rise in the air. Keep in mind, however, that air is composed of many gases. "By volume, dry air contains 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases. Air also contains a variable amount of water vapor, on average around 1% at sea level, and 0.4% over the entire atmosphere." (source: Wikipedia)
Dear Dan, So because of the fact that there are carbon monoxide detectors on the market that are wall outlet plugin or combination with smoke detectors, you say its common sense that it does not matter to put it on the ceiling, or high or low on a wall. That is not a very good advice. The heigth does matter. The earlier carbon monoxide is detected the more time you have to escape. Did you know that the First Alert smoke/carbon monoxide alarm is more than 20 years old? The battery needs to be replaced every year. Combination alarms should be forbidden. Buy separate smoke and co-detectors. Install co-detectors at living heigth. Sleep height in bedrooms and just a little higher that your windows in living rooms. But not in the draft. Place co-alarms in the same room as a appliance that produces carbon monoxide. And last but not least, please install a co-detector in your garage, cars produce gas with carbon monoxide in it. Questions? Just ask me.
Patrick Hageman , I agree with you about CO height but not on location. Every time you put your car into or out of the garage you will be setting your alarm off. It is generally advised to put the CO alarm where CO should not be so you know there is a problem. I advise inside the house near the garage door but not in the garage. If you place an alarm in the room with a gas appliance it should be at least 15 feet away to avoid constant false alarms from appliance start up.
@@erinbarger3822 Wow, how decidedly petronormative of you. How do you know 'rick doesn't drive a no-emissions vehicle such as the all-new Honda EV Plus? People like you make me sick worse than carbon monoxide ever could.
Not a fan of the 10 year battery idea. We have/had smoke detectors with 10 year batteries and some malfunctioned and went off after only one year. The only way to shut them up is to permanently disable them.Then you're out the money and have to buy a new one. I wouldn't trust the 10 year battery in a CO detector to last ten years either.
All bedrooms, long hall, upstairs, downstairs, and basement, CO and smoke detectors......10 to 20 units per home at $$ each..... how much money is the Kiddie Corp. paying these folks?
The best CO detector is your Cat or Dog. They will be affected first. What I noticed with my cat is she would be walking around half asleep for no reason, and her behavior ass very off.
Also I have the units in the right places,so don't try to use that excuse. At this point it doesn't matter you got your views. Rember people this is a guy that is trying to tell you how to do a job that he has never done or a clue in what he's talking about. It's all about marketing and getting views. Be smart america and do your research
Yes! But make sure not within 6 or 10 feet of any types of cooking appliances and not ionization. Use photoelectric or better kidde trusense 2020 new technology designed for kitchen certified UL. HELP reduce cooking nuisance alarms even installed at 6 ft only that the manufacturer recomendation. Hope it help i am professional certified installler and electrician. Good luck... I have one in my kitchen kidde trusense combo smoke and carbon monoxide. I bought this jan. 30, 2020 i just change my old one only photoelectric. This one exellent multi criteria Advanced sensor detects more types of fires ionization and photoelectric etc, plus carbon monoxide. They have trusense smoke and fire detector only if you dont like combo carbon monoxide.
This video is wrong. The reason for CO detectors that plug in is for marketing reasons because of convenience. CO is lighter than air with a molar mass of 28.0 and air with a molar mass of 28.8 Also keep in mind CO is produced from incomplete combustion which needs a heat source. Air tends to rise because of this warming of the air. This is just plain common sense . We taught this stuff in elementary school as kids when the firefighter come in and tell you to stay low and crawl if necessary to escape a fire. It's not just cause of smoke its also cause the most of CO in those situations will rise ...
Carbon monoxide has a molecular weight which is slightly lighter than air; but despite that fact, it doesn't just rise to the ceiling. The difference in density between air and CO is minimal and because of this difference, it causes the gas to have a neutral effect in any room.
@mikul93 you obviously didn't read my post above stating all factual information. Just because of the fact that CO is produced by incomplete combustion it will rise. Any type of combustion will rise because the air is being super heated to make combustion. All the smoke of combustion RISES at that time. Again CO is lighter than air , yes it is minimal but it will rise first before completely filling a room.....
@mikul93 when you post something like you did, it makes you look incompetent and very stupid. So you just going is just digging your hole deeper. You probably a person that's goggles everything and you probably never used any combustion measuring tools in your life. Anyone can read the garbage your spewing out and cab see you have zero experience with this....
This guys logic is flawed. Why would they sell you a plug in a CO if it were supposed to be mounted high? Because people will sell anything that a uninformed buyer will buy! CO is lighter than O2. Just look at the periodic table and you'll find that Carbon is two left of Oxygen. Carbon's molecular weight is 12.01 and Oxygen is 15.99. Tell me again how CO is same as O2? Do the math! Mount your CO's higher than bed level. If you mount them low, you're already dead or close to it by the time the damn thing goes off!
