If you think eagles are tough, wait until you try owls. :) You've got the right attitude about it though. You might also consider avoiding such specific goals as "eagles in action" at this stage. Being a little more open-ended like "how many species can I photograph today" can make any trip enjoyable even if you miss the target bird. For eagles in particular, they'll sit in a tree doing nothing for hours. But they get a lot more active and predictable in nesting season. They reuse the previous year's nest more often than not. That means once you know about an accessible nest you can put yourself in position for pretty much any kind of eagle shot you can imagine. Early in the season they'll be dropping to the ground nearby to pick up sticks for nest maintenance allowing for lots of eye level shots. Then when eggs are laid there will be routine landing/take-off trade-offs between the pair while the other goes out to eat. And eventually when there are eaglets there will be constant food deliveries from a predictable direction. They'll also typically fish at a consistent spot within a few miles of the nest and beeline to/from it so you have a decent idea of where it is. If it's accessible, then you can set up there and get all your predatory shots too. Consider swapping to the mirrorless for shooting for the all-important subject detection and FPS. Opportunities are so fleeting that you don't want to risk missing it because you didn't lock focus or got bad wing position choices because you were shooting at 6FPS instead of 30. Use your DSLR or even phone for filming. The 100-400 is fine for mammals but a little short for birds on a full frame without the overpriced 1.4 TC. If you can find a way to swing it, the 800/F11 is a good starter lens and very reasonable used. And lastly, join up with your local Audubon's Society for some of their field trips. Learning from their experience and making friends will pay huge dividends over time. Do that, and I guarantee you'll eventually get a message from someone about something amazing happening at location X right NOW that you'd never find out about without building a network. Good luck! -J "I know bird-fu!": macaulaylibrary.org/asset/279805661
Wow! What an incredible comment - thank you. You’re absolutely right, my expectations were wayyy too high. But I learn quick. :) And I love your suggestion about learning where the nest is because they’ll keep going back. I’m thinking of making another trip up to the Nooksack River in Washington as that place seems to have some better viewpoints than the Skagit, and I’ll lookout for nests. And I mostly do landscapes, so the 100-400 RF is what I’m stuck with - but on occasion I could rent a larger mirrorless telephoto. That will for sure happen in the future. Thank you again - awesome tips.
I've been a professional wildlife photographer and videographer for a long time now and these frustrations never go away, but that's what makes the good moments worth it when they happen.
Nice that you live out there you should try a camouflage tent next time. I went to take pictures of ducks yesterday which there were plenty of but didn’t like any of my pictures
Nice video Liam! Wildlife photography is HARD. It is also fun, rewarding, addictive, and expensive. Since you live in WA, consider going to the Spokane area and Higgins Point at lake Couer d'Alene from mid-November through January. You will be able to get much closer to eagles there. It is sometimes difficult and requires patience to get one in a position where they are on the level with you, but it is doable if you spend some time there and cover the Higgins Point area and around that end of the lake. You can hike around Higgins Point and shoot up at eagles in the trees just above you all day long, just don't let a fish bone hit you in the face. When you have a chance, invest in a larger heavy-duty tripod and head. Ideally, a wildlife tripod should not have an unstable center post. If it does, the position it needs to be in is all the way down. And as others have stated, a 1.4x extender will work great with either of those lenses you mentioned.
Thanks so much for your comment! I agree with all of those first four words you listed! Thanks for the tip about Couer d'Alene... I drove through there about a month ago, and it looks like a great spot. I'd love to be able to get closer to the eagles. I've seen some other tripod heads that basically have a gimbal on them that allows them to move freely in all directions - have you used one of those before?
Great clip. I live on a small holding- 11 acres with a fair bit of savannah: thorn trees and grass. I have more shots from here now ( owls, hawks, even an eagle, many birds, small mammals …) because I am always here. I know the animals here. I know where they nest, hunt, court… When I go to s national park etc, I don’t. It is much harder there.
Thanks for your comment! I envy you - 11 acres sounds awesome! For the sake of my photography and just for fun, I need to keep going back to places with wildlife repeatedly.
The title of this video grabbed my attention. As a beginner my self I had to watch. Great video with all the facts of the reality of what happens in the field.
Months late, but great advice already in the comments from others. If you want eagles, I'd recommend you PRACTICE REGULARLY with common birds like seagulls, pigeons, etc... so that you can replicate shooting conditions consistently. (And use the best lens you OWN as you can likely get quite close... "Relatively" without spending on rentals.) Eagles are FAR too infrequent, and consequently painful to miss. (Especially if you've spent money to rent a lens on top of travel costs.) Then when you DO get an eagle opportunity, you'll be more likely to be happy with shots you take away. When you rent a long lens, practice with it first to get the feel, understand the impact of settings, and learn long lens technique. (There ARE different sighting, tracking, & frame stability considerations from shooting less than 300mm.) For me, 1 - I shoot with the sun at my back, so the washed-out/backlit factor isn't an issue. 2 - I try to shoot up-wind of the subjects as they TEND to fly INTO the wind, which brings them TOWARDS me (Avoiding "butt-shots") and 3 - I shoot at 600mm TO START. I have a Nikon 500mm PF that is light & hand-holdable for hiking, but I use it for mammals/critters that I can get close enough to fill the frame with, (And that is with a 45mp camera. Cropping is the LAST resort, and I try to never go beyond 10-15% cropping for the elimination of unwanted elements, NOT to make the subject "bigger". My best luck for getting BIF subjects large enough in the frame is my 150-600mm on my Olympus OM-1 (Yes, OLYMPUS, as it is the "old" original and not the OM Systems mark II OM-1). "Effective" 300-1200mm works a treat, and if I expose properly and fill the frame, I can make images almost indistinguishable from my 45mp Z9 images after editing. Hope this helps, as I'm only stating what has worked FOR ME, and not claiming that this is the "RIGHT way" to do things. You'll determine what's right for you by choosing what works best with your gear and your personal capabilities. (ALLOW FOR YOUR GROWTH, as you WILL improve with every success AND FAILURE as you practice.) And good on you for making an honest run at this highly rewarding hobby!
Wow, this is phenomenal advice! One thing I plan on doing this winter is spending 2-3 days in the area with the eagles, rather than just 8 hours. The sun and wind tips are awesome - I'm going to factor those into my planning. Thanks for your comment!!
Much enjoyed and greetings from Spokane. ! I appreciate everything you said. The east end of lake Coeur D Alene is another eagle hot spot in late November and December. Totally agree, eagles are a challenging subject. Best I did this year was a juvenile perched in a tree at eye level about 20' away with a clear line of site. That was pretty cool!
Hello from over the mountains! I have heard of CDA mentioned quite a lot with eagles! Now I know of a few places to try! And yes, December is going to be my new eagle month this year. Seems they arrive in the largest numbers early on in the season. That sounds like a special moment!
That's a beautiful area. Bald Eagles can be frustrating to photograph. Especially to get them in flight. Well, I guess the same can be said about all wildlife. Keep up the good work, I just subscribed. I'll be out in the PNW in a few weeks on my next photography trip.
@@liamminerYT Thanks for subscribing and the comment, my RU-vid skills are still developing. Yours are well done, I can tell you spend some time on them or you are a natural. Anyway, I travel the west coast and mountain states often....my next trip is I will be going to Yellowstone, possibly Tetons (I've been to both multiple times) and then straight over to the coast, then down to San Diego to spend time with my son. I don't have exact dates....probably leave next week.
Stay at it, Liam. Trust me, it's not like shooting fish in a barrel - no pun intended. I'd also suggest investing in some camo clothes or netting if you are able.
Beautiful scenery. Beautiful view of the eagle. I do not have the patience to take these kinds of photos. Plus i am so not fond of cold weather. When i am sufficiently cold, i have no issues about going home. And with the weather we are currently experiencing, i may not be outside for a long time.
I don't worry about shooting distance. I carry my rig, a 7dmk2 and siggy 150-600 on a cotton carrier chest rig. I can fire off rushed shots within a couple seconds A holster carries a siggy 70-200 on a 5Dmk4 for closer critters. I dont mind slow action times, I just sit and suck in nature.
Wonderful video Liam! Hope to improve my skills with video :) Came across your channel when searching for hearing loss. I've have a loss on my left side due to cholesteatoma. Had it removed 7 years ago. Just got myself ite hearing aid!
Just went out today to shoot some birds, wasn't expecting to see any Eagles, was hoping too and to my suprise just driving down a highway by my town there was one in a tree, it seen me park and get out and as I was raising my camera up it laughed at me and flew off. Landed some distance from me in a tree, but had better visual access than before and got some decent shots. Seen two more flying randomly some time later. Cold freeze came through last week and froze all the local lakes where I have seen them before. Best shots I have taken of Eagles was just as the local lakes were thawing and they were hunting where the water had melted. Had one wide shot last year with 12 Eagles in it doing different things. I'm in SE Nebraska so tough to find them once the lakes thaw. They're just tough birds to shoot sometimes. I bought that RF 100-400 you have and it's a great lens, but not the best when overcast and it's easy to shoot past the lenses limit. Had bought a Sigma 150-600 for my 90D ways back and it performed well on my R7 and the 600MM was nice, but at times it wasn't long enough to shoot the Eagles that were out in the middle of the half frozen lakes. I'm now pairing the RF200-800 with my R7 and R6MII, the lens is amazing, more reach than the RF100-500 and costs less, great AF and comparatively almost as sharp as the 100-500 that one couldn't tell a difference I don't think. I run weather radar apps on my phone to view satellite images of clouds and storms/rain. I don't like getting my gear wet so not a true die hard get in the mud wildlife shooter.
You need patience, some knowledge of animal behavior, a love of and respect for wildlife, a willingness to sit (possibly in horribly cramped positions, hungry, cold, hot, having to go to the bathroom) for hours and hours, and a willingness to go back and do it all over again, even when all you come away with is frustration, blurry images or nothing at all. Above all else, you must never, ever push it! You must allow the animal/bird decide if you are going to get anything or not! The welfare of the subject must always be your primary concern. So often nowadays you will see a "photographer" walk right up to a flock of birds until they take off (as an example), and then tell you about the great shot he got! If you want a shot of them taking off, you sit at a respectful distance where they aren't reacting to you and you WAIT as long as it takes until they take off!
400mm too short, even on a crop body. Sorry. Camo for the lens and a ghillie suit for yourself may help. Stay quiet, stay low, move slowly. Try renting a 600f4 RF and 1.4x TC (also RF of course) for your MLC body. It'll be heavier, but you'll get better shots imho. You can go to an area that has a reputation for animals etc, but you can just get there on a day where it's not happening. That's wildlife photography for you . Keep visiting, keep trying, you'll get there. Pro tip - approach said birds with camera raised up to the face/eyes. It seems to scare them less than if you approach with the camera down. You did OK!
If you get a chance, go to Haines, Alaska in Nov for the late salmon run and thousands of bald eagles. You'll will see them like you described walking around and maybe even air to air combat. Likely would see ones coming down to take fish away from another etc
The art of wildlife photography is getting them in compromising conditions- Seattle has a bay near it in June the eagles congregate there that’s where you get shots