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The Reason why the Lakers Lost the 2004 Finals 

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Kobetards be like - "Ben Wallace shut down Shaq in the Finals, it wasn't Kobe's fault they lost." NO. The reason the Lakers lost the 2004 Finals was Kobe being the most selfish player in history and trying to play hero ball instead of feeding the ball to Shaq which almost always worked. Shaq crushed Ben or whoever was guarding him when he got his touches. When the Lakers fed Shaq, their offense ran smoothly. When they stopped feeding him, (largely due to Kobe's ball-hogging) their offense was atrocious. Shaq getting more touches = easy 2004 championship.
2004 Finals
Kobe - 70 bricks
Shaq - 84 total attempts

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@a.c.slater7989
@a.c.slater7989 7 лет назад
Kobe shot like 17% from 3 and under 40% overall while shooting 30 more shots than the next closest guy. Kobe absolutely lost them this series
@philliprhinehardt6268
@philliprhinehardt6268 3 года назад
Facts
@phillipmoore6249
@phillipmoore6249 2 года назад
Facts
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 2 года назад
Guess who the next closest guy was, who was shooting well over 60% from the field and dominating the Pistons?
@user-ou5pm6gn9j
@user-ou5pm6gn9j 2 года назад
@@logicaldude3611 You remember Kobe was playing on an injured right arm? He was forced to play on it and it unraveled itself in the playoffs. You're right, Kobe could have diverted to Shaq, but they would have lost, undoubtedly because there would be only 1 scoring threat.
@Bigguy5588
@Bigguy5588 2 года назад
He didn’t lose them the series he literally gave them they’re only win lmao he was they only player that could actually give them a chance of course he shot 40%
@andrewiskb24
@andrewiskb24 6 лет назад
They need a 30 for 30 for this
@hitman321100
@hitman321100 4 года назад
That now will not happen.
@Dwade32
@Dwade32 2 года назад
@@hitman321100 Yup. Nothing negative against Kobe is allowed now after the tragedy
@yeaitsme2961
@yeaitsme2961 Год назад
Lol
@andrewiskb24
@andrewiskb24 Год назад
I love Kobe , would still love to see it .
@aaronwin33
@aaronwin33 Месяц назад
Kobe sucked that season and he threw the series so that Shaq wouldn't get finals MVP. Same thing LeBron did to D-wade in 2011
@LOUIKING98
@LOUIKING98 7 лет назад
Even the announcers are like wtf is Kobes Problem give him the ball
@cyrilglibratv4028
@cyrilglibratv4028 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rocketbunny0989
@rocketbunny0989 2 года назад
and u gonna be regret to post this shxt
@kendallthomas6807
@kendallthomas6807 Год назад
Not the original broadcasters
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 3 месяца назад
@@kendallthomas6807 The original announcers also talked about how Kobe wasn't giving the ball to Shaq
@kendallthomas6807
@kendallthomas6807 3 месяца назад
@@joshuafult84no sir The mentioned that Shaq didn’t touch the ball but never said Kobe didn’t pass it to him In fact they mentioned how Kobe was even looking for his shot and getting everybody involved The original commentators were Al Michaels and doc rivers
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 года назад
Just remember... The Pistons WANTED the ball in Kobe's hands. Just think about that. People completely forget the first half of Kobe's career when it was him running around playing hero ball all the time when he had SHAQUILLE O'NEAL IN THE POST. It got worse every year and this series was when the whole thing came to its peak.
@user-ou5pm6gn9j
@user-ou5pm6gn9j 2 года назад
Did you forger he was playing on an injured right arm?
@Bigguy5588
@Bigguy5588 2 года назад
THEY LITERALLY DOUBLE TESMED SHAQ WHEN HE PASSED IT YOU IDIOT
@jeremybamgbade
@jeremybamgbade 2 года назад
@@user-ou5pm6gn9j which makes his shot selection and selfishness ever worse. Kobe is the most overrated ball hog ever. Sure, he is a hall of famer no doubt, but way overhyped.
@user-ou5pm6gn9j
@user-ou5pm6gn9j 2 года назад
@@jeremybamgbade How? So u expect him to just not shoot. Shaq was dominant, but 1 dimensional, the pistons had more consistent spacing while the Lakers had a few specialist but no true consistent floor spacers outside of Kobe. If kobe doesn't shoot like he did that series the pistons win in 4 since Shaq is too predictable. Even if he's unstappable and efficient, you can contain him, Kobe on the other hand could change the tide of a game a lot more effectively because his scoring opens up the offense for everyone else. Leading up to the finals Kobe had been the way, Kobe just gave out. Sure Kobe could have averaged 18 or 19 those finals on good shooting, but he had to shoot in order to keep them somewhat in it. Also, I honestly don't care what you think, Kobe is the 2nd greatest player of all time.
@jeremybamgbade
@jeremybamgbade 2 года назад
@@user-ou5pm6gn9j Lol. The point wasn't to not shoot, it was to be smarter with the shot selection, ya know, like how he did the 3 previous years???. Dump the ball to shaq, he gets double teamed, he passes out of a double to Kobe for open or easy look, or to someone else who makes a play to get a quality shot. Also, Shaq being predictable is a hilarious argument. Yeah he was predictable and yet he was unstoppable so your argument makes no sense. And you are in the minority if you think Kobe is better than Olujuwon, Kareem, Lebron, hell even Shaq LMAO. Look at his career averages, most missed shots ever, his career FG percentage is way nearer to Westbrook than to Lebron who has shot 50% for his career. I realize Im talking to a kobe fan so your ability to be objective is diminished, but cmon my guy.
@fizzyfuzz5878
@fizzyfuzz5878 6 лет назад
Kobe's selfish play was definitely a factor as opposed to the more effective play of Shaq
@williamwright1281
@williamwright1281 Год назад
That was the Pistons game plan play Shack one on one the Lakers will drop the ball to him more and that will frustrate Kobe Kobe getting frustrated he will disrupt their offensive plays and once he did that the game was over
@pauljordan6615
@pauljordan6615 4 года назад
Phil should have benched Kobe and only played him when Shaq was sitting. This shit was ridiculous.
@xaviervega468
@xaviervega468 7 лет назад
The players should have been wearing hardhats with all the bricks Kobe chunked this series.
@octaviuseugeneraymond5493
@octaviuseugeneraymond5493 3 года назад
lmao
@sypherd.3771
@sypherd.3771 3 года назад
They were too busy chucking their own bricks. Only player who showed up was Shaq
@hushus3943
@hushus3943 7 лет назад
People don't give Prince enough f***ing credit when it comes down to the best perimeter defensive players ever. He totally shut down Bryant in 2004 finals, and the year prior to that, the pistons were down 3-1 against Orlando, but as soon as a rookie prince came off the bench and started guarding McGrady(who was dropping 40s left and right), shit went downhill for the magic and they lost 3 straight games. That's Kobe and T-Mac two of the best scorers ever in their prime getting shut down by a kid who just came into the NBA.
@Doatello1991
@Doatello1991 7 лет назад
The thing about Prince though was that his peak did not last very long. Still decent two-player player for his career though.
@seijuroakashi6232
@seijuroakashi6232 7 лет назад
hus hus then came a guy named LeBron James
@slightexag
@slightexag 7 лет назад
and he lost three NBA finals in a row (though the league did win one of those for him)
@johanndiaz8387
@johanndiaz8387 7 лет назад
smithtable15 taste the salt
@johanndiaz8387
@johanndiaz8387 7 лет назад
Kobe woulda been 3-4 in the he finals without refs not as bad
@Ma1q444
@Ma1q444 2 года назад
Imagine if bron did this it would be talked about forever and people don’t talk about him choking 3-1 lead
@thefoxmccloud2256
@thefoxmccloud2256 2 года назад
*Lakers choked that lead, not Kobe
@TheGr8-1
@TheGr8-1 2 года назад
Kobe has 04, 06 against the suns lol. And getting mollywhopped in 08 by the Celtics. Bron definitely gets the same treatment on his 2011 disappearing act. Deservedly so. Kobe is an all time great but he’s overrated for sure. He ain’t MJ. And at the end of the day Bron will end up higher on the all time list. Even though I like Kobe more as a player Bron is a better all around player.
@kawaiiafangirl
@kawaiiafangirl 2 года назад
@@TheGr8-1 True. Kobe fans are very hypocritical when it comes to their lord and savior but don't treat LeBron the same way. When LeBron loses against the Mavs in 2011, they forget that the Lakers were swept by the same exact team 2 series prior. When LeBron loses the 2-1 lead against the Mavs, they don't say anything about Kobe losing a 3-1 lead against the Suns and losing in the Finals against Detroit which they were heavily favored to beat. When they knock LeBron for losing against the Magic in 2009 and the Celtics in 2010, they don't talk about how LeBron out-performed Kobe when Kobe played those teams, but simply didn't have as good a team or coach. When Kobe loses in 2004 (and even 2008), it's bc he was learning but when LeBron loses in his first 7 seasons, it's bc he's a choke artist. LeBron took a bad Cavs team against a great Spurs team but to them, he just played like garbage but when Kobe loses against the Pistons and Celtics, he had to learn how to be the man, etc.
@Swiftie-d2u
@Swiftie-d2u Год назад
@@thefoxmccloud2256 kobrick*
@gim12345
@gim12345 Год назад
​@@kawaiiafangirl both are overrated.Duncan lectured them both
@derrickbernard1113
@derrickbernard1113 6 лет назад
Kobe wanted to be the finals MVP so he was trying to take over selfishly
@nikosuavesworldofsportsmusic
@nikosuavesworldofsportsmusic 4 года назад
@Gr8 1 As a die hard Los Angeles Lakers fan YET an objective Kobe Bryant admirer not one of his non-objective delusional Kobrick/Kobetard fanboys or girls, Stans EVERYTHING you said in your previous message to that other gentleman is 100% FACTUAL. This 2004 NBA FINALS selfish brick shooting debacle, his blown 3-1 2006 WESTERN CONFERENCE CONFERENCE first round playoff series vs the #2 seed 54-28 Phoenix Suns who didn't have the services of all-star big man Amare Stoudimire that ENTIRE 2005-06 season btw when Kobe in GAME 7 selfishly/petty like only took 3 shots in the second half because he was pissed that the local Los Angeles media criticized him for taking 35 shots in his only career 50 point playoff game in GAME 6 back in Staples Center when the Lakers blew an 8 point lead with like 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter with a chance to clinch the series at home in Los Angeles where the Suns forced over time & eventually won & forced the aforementioned GAME 7 back in Phoenix where they blew out Lakers primarily because the Snake was in his feelings lmao, & finally his lackluster ass 2008 NBA FINALS performance vs the '08 Boston Celtics in his lone MVP season where I feel Chris Paul who I can't stand by the way but I give credit where it's due was robbed of the MVP that year as member of the then New Orleans Hornets he led them to a 56-26 record #2 seed in the WESTERN CONFERENCE with sorry ass Maurice Peterson & Tyson Chandler as his 2 best players where they lost a heartbreaking GAME 7 at home vs the San Antonio Spurs in the WESTERN CONFERENCE SEMIFINALS but I digress. The '08 FINALS exposed Kobrick as a great regular season scorer against soft, finesse, non physical bottom tier defenses but when presented with a smart, physical, & intelligent defense which REFUSED to give up easy penetration to the lane/basket for high percentage dunks, lay-ups, & fouls which would result in free throw attempts Kobe became mentally intimidated & simply resorted to taking low percentage 25 foot bricks with multiple defenders on him lmao by the time the Celtics won GAME 6 by an NBA FINALS record clinching 39 point margin Kobrick was relegated to shooting 35 foot bricks/jumpers because he wanted ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with '08 NBA DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR Kevin Garnett (ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE smh as a Lakers fan that STILL hurts my feelings whenever they show GAME 6 of the '08 FINALS & Garnett's post championship interview when he uttered that phrase 😭😭😭😭), P.J. Brown, Leon Powe, Kendrick Perkins, or Glen "Ashy lips/Eating Popeyes Chicken on a private plane with $100,000 cash in your hands while simultaneously having a warrant out for your arrest/Big Baby" Davis. Those 3 scenarios FOREVER disqualified Kobrick from NBA G.O.A.T. player discussions in my book as a matter of fact I currently have him ranked #12 all-time in NBA history.
@IWantToMature85
@IWantToMature85 4 года назад
😢 😢 😢
@nikosuavesworldofsportsmusic
@nikosuavesworldofsportsmusic 4 года назад
@Gr8 1 Appreciate it sir. It's unfortunate & tragic how he & his daughter met their untimely demise so I understand if his fans or NBA fans of other teams are currently in mourning yet that doesn't mean we should overstate or overrate him as a NBA player & I've always felt that he was a great player but not in consideration for G.O.A.T. NBA player status or top 10 all-time & I've expressed that opinion numerous times on social media in years past but since his death now all of a sudden his delusional non-objective “Kobrick/Kobetard”fanboys & girls/Stans are calling me a hater regardless of me providing statistical data/evidence & game footage such as these 2004 NBA FINALS vs the Detroit Pistons they STILL won't except LEGITIMATE constructive criticism as anything other than me being a Kobe Bryant hater because I refuse to be a delusional fanboy who lacks OBJECTIVETY just because I'm a Los Angeles Lakers fan as well as Kobe Bryant fan but I would call him out on his flaws as I & EVERY fan of a player or team should instead of being a blind non objective fanboy or girl/Stan but I'm a big boy & can handle myself it is what it is ijs🤷🏾‍♂️.
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 4 года назад
Jordan Sharpe Kobe is borderline #10 buddy. Quit overrating him because he had a tragic death.
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 4 года назад
Jordan Sharpe #1. Michael Jordan #2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar #3. LeBron James #4. Wilt Chamberlain #5. Magic Johnson #6. Bill Russell #7. Larry Bird #8. Tim Duncan #9. Hakeem Olajuwon #10. Kobe Bryant #11. Shaquille O’Neal
@chitownkidd33
@chitownkidd33 5 лет назад
3:44 “I think Kobe knows he’s 1 for 6 and his shot is not falling as opposed to Shaq being 5 for 5.” Perfect illustration of this series.
@shadyboy5090
@shadyboy5090 5 лет назад
Shaw just stands in the post
@chitownkidd33
@chitownkidd33 5 лет назад
Shady Boy and that would’ve made the series competitive if Kobe didn’t throw the series
@shadyboy5090
@shadyboy5090 5 лет назад
chitownkidd33 Kobe didnt Shaq was out of shape and fat he was still a great player but he was just lazy. Karl malone was injured and Gary payton struggled with the triangle offense derrick fisher struggled comin off the bench and Kobe was going through that rape trial and his marrige was in crisis also Phil jackson was gonna retire after the year and wrote some shit about Kobe it was a miracle that team made it to the finals
@chitownkidd33
@chitownkidd33 5 лет назад
Shady Boy It was a miracle against the Spurs but please rewatch the series, specifically games 3-5. Shaq was dominating, while Kobe was ignoring him and building a brick house because he wanted the finals mvp.
@LanceG007
@LanceG007 4 года назад
chitownkidd33 wrong again
@MentalWarrior4GOD11
@MentalWarrior4GOD11 4 года назад
Shaq 9-11 rest of Lakers 9-30. Pass the ball Kobe lol
@Bigguy5588
@Bigguy5588 2 года назад
If he passes they will just eventually double team him stop it
@MentalWarrior4GOD11
@MentalWarrior4GOD11 2 года назад
@@Bigguy5588 THATS THE POINT! YOU WANT THE DOUBLE TEAM!!! THATS MEANS SOMEONE IS OPEN!
@njprince9717
@njprince9717 Год назад
@@Bigguy5588 lol double team or not shaq is still bulldozing that team shaq will find his way and if not he's gonna kick it out
@Bigguy5588
@Bigguy5588 Год назад
@@njprince9717 stfu that’s not how it works lol shaq ms not bulldozing through everyone especially when they move the pressure up or foul him then they could just double team shaq AND KOBE
@timsnell9326
@timsnell9326 4 года назад
He wanted the finals mvp couldn’t stand Shaq winning another one
@DNikos
@DNikos 4 года назад
Such a shame but no no no it's all about Shaq being "lazy". This was an easy chip if played the right way & the right way is SHAQ!
@arlopear7136
@arlopear7136 4 года назад
@@DNikos I don't know about easy but Lakers definitely should've won had they continued with what got them 3 chips before this. After this Finals it was obvious those 2 could no longer co-exist as Lakers. Which is ashame cuz had they stuck to being a Shaq first team they win in 04, 05, 06 & get that 2nd 3-peat like MJ's Bulls. Spurs were tough & wouldn't keep getting bounced. They'd still win in 07. After that Kobe takes over as the Alpha & they get more chips. These guys should've had 8 rings at minimum probably 10. That's not an exaggeration either.
@DNikos
@DNikos 4 года назад
@@arlopear7136 I agree. Not taking away from the Pistons but my God!!! I mean Shaq is just not a selfish cat, ego yes but not selfish. He gets the ball moving and makes passes out of the post for better shots. Such a shame it was simple to build around He & Kobe if we're working on all cylinders but another disappointment like we just saw with the MJ doc
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 4 года назад
Bilal Ali I don’t see any blame for Shaq. He was still the best Center in the NBA. Shaq cost a few regular season wins but turned serious in the playoffs. Kobe was acting like a damn child and didn’t want Shaq getting a finals mvp
@Loganbub
@Loganbub 2 года назад
@@arlopear7136 OT is a very large exaggeration. It’s actually hard to imagine them getting one more. Even if they are Abel to get back the Spurs,m had they stuck together they would of ran into the Pistons again. That wasn’t a fluke, those Pistons teams were a perfect kryptonite to the Lakers.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 года назад
Kobe’s worst moment ever as a Laker
@mkhan8527
@mkhan8527 Год назад
and 2006 suns and 2008 NBA finals. and 2000 NBA finals. the list is too long.
@Brooklyn11236
@Brooklyn11236 7 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@mkhan85272003 semifinals vs Spurs. Lakers really could’ve did a 5-peat
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Месяц назад
The 4 air balls vs the Jazz
@meeee500
@meeee500 4 года назад
Shaq was supposed to go for 45-50 easy
@dezniko4585
@dezniko4585 4 года назад
Bu bu bu...Ben shut him down LMAO!!! 40 easy! With the offense boomin to another chip but nah!
@christianhilbert1446
@christianhilbert1446 4 года назад
Dez Niko exactly Kobe playing a lil bit better wouldn’t have stopped that Detroit team, The pistons were on a fuckin mission that year
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 3 года назад
@@dezniko4585 did you not watch this series ? Ben did as good as anyone can against Shaq but Shaq still dominated him when he got the ball
@mohammedbabaki1534
@mohammedbabaki1534 3 года назад
@@joshuafult84 absolutely. The key phrase you used there is “when he got the ball” the lakers tried getting the ball to Shaq on every play, but the Pistons TEAM had other ideas...
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 года назад
Kobe missed almost as many shots as Shaq took in the entire series. Shaq was shooting in the 60s and Kobe was shooting in the 30s. That was the story of the series and it was obvious to anyone watching at the time what was going on.
@Brooklyn11236
@Brooklyn11236 6 лет назад
I consider myself the biggest Kobe fan in the world, but this is terrible coaching by Phil Jackson. Kobe was being selfish this game and he should’ve been benched.
@thefinalsay8330
@thefinalsay8330 3 года назад
Looks alot like what booker was doing to the suns
@phillipmoore6249
@phillipmoore6249 2 года назад
@@thefinalsay8330 I slightly agreeeeee. I saw it too. But imagine Deondre Ayton was a hall of famer top 10 player ever…..he isn’t. Kobe literally had that on his team and kept shooting
@alp6675
@alp6675 2 года назад
@@phillipmoore6249 I know in general, he is top 10. But in those 3 finals, he was the best player of all time.
@phillipmoore6249
@phillipmoore6249 2 года назад
@@alp6675 absolute beast
@alp6675
@alp6675 2 года назад
@@phillipmoore6249 Exactly. He literally averaged 38 ppg 17 rpg 3 bpg on %61. That is impossible.
@dominicharris5489
@dominicharris5489 7 месяцев назад
the excuses for Kobe in some of these comments is disgusting. He single handedly cost them the series
@aeriskabkr1110
@aeriskabkr1110 2 месяца назад
He won without shaq, in fact that's 2 rings without a top 75 back up.. unlike other superstars who just jumps from team to team to get rings forming superteams with other top 75 players😂
@dominicharris5489
@dominicharris5489 2 месяца назад
@@aeriskabkr1110 he did not come close to winning shit until they got Pau. and kobe was gonna "jump" to the bulls by demanding a trade BEFORE they got Pau. and kobe is nowhere near as good as Lebron so u can blabber all you want with those high school takes lol.
@dominicharris5489
@dominicharris5489 2 месяца назад
@@aeriskabkr1110 he quit vs suns in 2006 playoffs, gentlemens sweep in 2007, then demanded a trade because he couldnt win without Shaq so they got another all star for him.
@aeriskabkr1110
@aeriskabkr1110 2 месяца назад
@@dominicharris5489 who was pau gasol? if you can't name other top 75 player, this conversation is over... shaq won a ring with dwade and gary payton i believe
@aeriskabkr1110
@aeriskabkr1110 2 месяца назад
@@dominicharris5489 pau not at least at KG level
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 6 лет назад
I mean, you have a Kobe bias, but you're not lying. If the Lakers just gave Shaq the damn ball, it was a perfect series for them. Detroit played slow, which is EXACTLY the way for LA to win. Their troubles came against teams that would speed them up (Portland 2000, Sac 2002, San Antonio 2003, Minny 2004) with some kind of trap or press or just attacking them with their guards. Chauncey and Rip were nice, but if you wanted to play in the 80's, LA could win if you played an efficient game. THE PROBLEM WAS, Kobe was determined to win Finals MVP. You could see it. Even in the swing game of the series, Game 4, Shaq's last stand where he dropped 36 and 20 on the Wallace's heads, Kobe was jacking shots up in that 4th quarter that swung a tie game to an 8 point Pistons win that basically ended the series. 04 Shaq wasn't as dominant as 01 Shaq, but he was definitely enough to get 30+ a game and THEN let Kobe get more efficient looks off of him as the first option. Kobe just wasn't having it. And his 38 percent shooting AND mediocre defense on Rip and Chauncey (both averaged 20+ a game) AND the injury to Karl Malone doomed the Lakers.
@jrthegoatsmith712
@jrthegoatsmith712 5 лет назад
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot Shaq was pretty out of shape at the time. Kobe’s shot selection definitely hurt the Lakers’ offense, but Shaq was gassed by game 5 because of how physical the Pistons were playing him. And on the other end, Shaq literally played no defense. Kobe locked up Rip Hamilton in Game 1. Edit: Also I still think Kobe was more at fault this series. That court case he was dealing with, well why was he sleeping with that girl anyway if he didn’t want to have a reputation as a bad father? That’s Kobe’s own fault. Did he rape that girl? I have no idea, but Kobe admitted to sleeping with her and he settled his court case. Not a good look for him. But Shaq gets way too much of a pass for his lazy defense and being out of shape.
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 5 лет назад
@@jrthegoatsmith712 Kobe needs the blame i saw this coming & i'm a Lakers fan. Not only did Kobe Sabotage the series he sabotaged the Lakers. Kobe said earlier resign Shaq he's not coming back. People forget too many players could of replaced Kobe that this time. Also Kobe had alot of teams he could of went to establish himself. He didn't me make sure the Lakers kissed his ass
@bigfacts4235
@bigfacts4235 5 лет назад
JR The GOAT Smith your name alone exposes the lack of hoops IQ If you actually WATCHED the series you would see that. 1. Shaq led in scoring 2. The Lakers lacked FLOOR SPACING They need Robert Horry this series but MANAGEMENT let him go 3. The Lakers lacked Athleticism 4. Phil Jackson lineups were HORRIBLE why he kept Payton in the starting lineup is mind boggling 5. The pistons defense pressured the lakers 94ft the Lakers were rushed into shots due to the shot clock close to expiring. They had no time to go to Shaq most of the time.
@bigfacts4235
@bigfacts4235 5 лет назад
Evidence watch at 9:28 the Lakers are rushed! Into a shot because the shot clock is close to expiring. They were pressed from the minute they inbounded the ball.
@jrthegoatsmith712
@jrthegoatsmith712 5 лет назад
BIG FACTS I watched the series. All Shaq did was score, and even so he was nothing close to what he was in the Lakers’ 3-peat. And Shaq played absolutely no defense. The Pistons’ didn’t have to worry about him one bit. And Shaq let Ben Wallace shoot open jumper after jumper. Shaq was way out of shape playing no defense and exerting all of his energy on offense.
@evanstowers8529
@evanstowers8529 7 лет назад
Why not just give it to Shaq every time? Let him have career highs in the finals while you have career lows...he's unstoppable...earn respect through your intelligence!
@willseest3732
@willseest3732 3 года назад
Facts, he couldve had hella assists to like 12 or 13
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 года назад
No shit, Shaq was eating the Pistons alive down low and all they had to do was feed him. But this was the peak of Kobe's beef with Shaq and I think it completely drove him insane that Shaq was out there looking fat but still dominating while Kobe couldn't get a bucket to drop. It just drove him crazier with each miss and Shaq make.
@TaybeenTrill248
@TaybeenTrill248 2 года назад
Folks wanna gonna say Shaq carried Kobe when it was true so Kobe tried to prove he was the best player Cost my lakers this series
@Bigguy5588
@Bigguy5588 2 года назад
THEY WILL DOUBLE TEAM DO YOU EVEN PLAY BASKETBALL
@evanstowers8529
@evanstowers8529 2 года назад
@@Bigguy5588 lol. No, not since my brother grew taller than me and started destroying me. He played on a team with Devin Booker when they were young. You're right that it's not that simple at all in basketball. I'm a Michigan guy so the Pistons winning was all I cared about really.
@dogtuber4172
@dogtuber4172 Год назад
It happened twice in the playoff which costs them a potential penta-peat. Phil and Shaq left afterwards because of Kobe selfishness in the playoffs and the media hide it.
@lavellrobinson1648
@lavellrobinson1648 2 года назад
I love Kobe as much as the next person and god rest his soul....But he single Handedly Cost the lakers This series . He had a serious Ego Problem Back then
@TheJemel1994
@TheJemel1994 2 месяца назад
Ok say that but this is what one year out of a 20 year career like come on now.
@derekmatthews2213
@derekmatthews2213 7 лет назад
I'm sorry I love Kobe but man any one this selfish during the most important game of the year is a fool in my eyes...I dont blame Shaq for leaving. Selfish...I'm not a big Lebron fan but I know for a certainty he wouldn't do this type of selfish play smh
@seijuroakashi6232
@seijuroakashi6232 7 лет назад
Derek Matthews shaq was traded. But yeah even though is he wasn't traded , anyone of them would leave anyway
@rcboss1988
@rcboss1988 7 лет назад
the Pistons won it strait up it didn't matter if Kobe was in or not. there defense was amazing and they had player to score like rwallace, Hamilton, bullups, and prince. plus bwallace out playing and rebounding Shaq. didn't matter who they played they were winning.
@Dejayh
@Dejayh 6 лет назад
Derek Matthews he wanted to get his shot going the lakers knew like he knew if he didn't put up 20 they lose
@Only2GendersCommonSense
@Only2GendersCommonSense 5 лет назад
@humanman1 Jordan's "selfish" basketball never cost his team. Went 6 for 6 in the finals with 6 finals MVPs compared to Kobe's measly 2.
@eagleeye3171
@eagleeye3171 5 лет назад
Measly??? Damn how many HOF got as many?! How many don't have any??
@oneman9121
@oneman9121 6 лет назад
I love how everyone loves to make excuses for Kobe when there's video evidence of him shooting 36% and abandoning the offense. Just pay attention to the announcers in the video.... they're calling the game EXACTLY as how I watched the series.... run the offense through Shaq... run the offense through Shaq.... No one is making anything up. Kobe just fucked up. Period.
@jojocapone4861
@jojocapone4861 6 лет назад
IbTusPeter Facts
@whatthafk2864
@whatthafk2864 6 лет назад
And Kobe learned and moved on and went to three straight championships!...won back to back.
@atlaslion5128
@atlaslion5128 6 лет назад
Rycons Rycons wasn't it 2?
@Only2GendersCommonSense
@Only2GendersCommonSense 5 лет назад
@@whatthafk2864 After getting carried his first 3.
@BooBooDaFoo330
@BooBooDaFoo330 5 лет назад
Rycons Rycons thanks to Pau Gasol
@tashrif46
@tashrif46 2 года назад
I mean in his own words he stated that this finals debacle was on him. He wanted to fulfill his Michael Jordan fantasy so desperately that he ignored all team concepts and broke down all offensive flow. Dwyane Wade just 2 years later, totally shred this Detroit Pistons with penetration and getting good shots within the flow.
@shawnerr7417
@shawnerr7417 Год назад
exactlyyyy
@petersonofleo11
@petersonofleo11 Год назад
Not only Wade destroyed them Manu Ginobili shred the Pistons too. Kobetards say that people are unfair against Kobe for using this series against him because the Pistons defense is one of the greatest ever but Wade and Manu proved that their defense can be destroyed as shooting guard.
@jasondye9565
@jasondye9565 11 месяцев назад
Michael won as the leader of the team. Kobe wasn’t a good leader
@acason4
@acason4 11 месяцев назад
Kobe’s selfish ego was his biggest weakness.
@noncomplacent
@noncomplacent 11 месяцев назад
@@acason4 You're wrong. It was his CHILDISH selfish ego that made him always look like a dummy to anyone who knows basketball. Dude was a chump that sometimes got extremely hot.
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 2 года назад
I hope all the young people watching realize that this was Shaq as he was exiting his prime, but the strategy to win was easily, "Just play the Triangle, swing the ball around the perimeter, give it to Shaq." Shaq was great at slipping in under guys as he rotated and all of a sudden, he's 5 feet from the basket 1-on-1 in prime post position. Unstoppable. Kobe single-handedly threw away this series because he thought it was his time. Kobe always mattered to Kobe more than winning ever did.
@TaybeenTrill248
@TaybeenTrill248 2 года назад
For your name to be logical dude that wasn’t a logical statement. “Kobe always mattered to Kobe more than winning ever did” he won 5 nba championships 😂 7 finals in a 10 years span 2000-2010. If Kobe was as selfish as you claimed he wouldn’t won any titles if he really about “Kobe “ championships are TEAM accomplishments Kobe has 5 on his resume in 10 years. He can’t be that selfish contributing to 5 championships sir.
@Joseph-mp5fl
@Joseph-mp5fl 2 года назад
@@TaybeenTrill248 2000-2010 is 11 years + Shaq carried Kobe for 3/5 of his rings
@TaybeenTrill248
@TaybeenTrill248 2 года назад
@@Joseph-mp5fl you’re a casual Shaq ain’t carrying Kobe to anything . Kobe averaged 25/6/5 from 2000-2002 that’s not being carried idiot .I can tell you don’t watch games If Shaq carried Kobe Why he didn’t carry him 96-99 then before Kobe became a starter ??? That theory ain’t holding up buddy
@edmondlau511
@edmondlau511 2 года назад
@@Joseph-mp5fl amazing how people say “Kobe won 5” yet forget to mention Shaq was FMVP for 3 of those 5 rings that Kobe “won.”
@manniesupasport7977
@manniesupasport7977 Год назад
Shaq left Orlando because he was jealous of Penny
@allbullieshaveincommonthei7128
@allbullieshaveincommonthei7128 3 года назад
Kobe is thinking of MVP not the ring
@lewistee1
@lewistee1 Год назад
Doc Rivers was announcing this game in 2004 on ABC, he had just been hired as the Celtics coaches. I think this was the blueprint he used for Kobe in 2008 and 2010. Kobe numbers were under 41% both series.
@oneman9121
@oneman9121 6 лет назад
Probably the most selfish performance in the history of basketball. I've never a seen player so willing to ruin his team's chance of winning a title in favor of scoring points. #NotInMyTop15
@russell9411
@russell9411 4 года назад
Judge a nigga off 1 series wow u suck bad
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 года назад
@@russell9411 Nba Finals averages: Shaq ( as a Lakers ) 33-14-3-2, on 61%. Kobrick ( with Shaq ) 22-5-5-1, on 41%. Gasol 17-10-3-2, on 53% Kobrick ( as a leader ) 25-6-5-1, on 41%
@russell9411
@russell9411 4 года назад
@Shaun King how he make the 2008 finals tell me.
@rafaelramirez9461
@rafaelramirez9461 4 года назад
Shaun King you don’t know basketball, please do more research before you try to educate people, they don’t even make the nba finals in 2000 if it wasn’t for Kobe
@elbowgang9715
@elbowgang9715 4 года назад
@Shaun King lol u high as hell
@kimjongun2946
@kimjongun2946 Год назад
Shaq was always better than Kobe. Not even a debate.
@lioninthesun
@lioninthesun 7 месяцев назад
So how did kobe win more without shaq than shaq did without kobe?
@kimjongun2946
@kimjongun2946 7 месяцев назад
@@lioninthesun 3 of kobes rings are shaqs. So it's 4 rings to 2 rings.
@lioninthesun
@lioninthesun 7 месяцев назад
@@kimjongun2946 you need to get checked kid. The 2001 lakers were the greatest team ever. Shaq and kobe were equals and kobe was the designated closer. Throughout the western conference playoffs which they swept three rounds kobe averaged 31 and shaq averaged 29. You are annoyingly ignorant
@kimjongun2946
@kimjongun2946 7 месяцев назад
@@lioninthesun what a bizarre thing to say
@lioninthesun
@lioninthesun 7 месяцев назад
@@kimjongun2946 I stated facts tho
@MisterBinx
@MisterBinx 7 лет назад
The footage Kobe stans don't want anyone to see.
@tj5180
@tj5180 2 года назад
No one denies this happens. But
@TyroneNBAFan
@TyroneNBAFan 8 лет назад
LMAO, the play by play guys pulled no punches. Awesome.
@kawaiiafangirl
@kawaiiafangirl 4 года назад
Damn. Shaq averaged 26.6 PPG on 63.1% shooting in this series, up from 21.5 PPG and 58.4% in the regular season. Kobe against the Pistons averaged 22.6 PPG on 38.1% shooting compared to 24.0 PPG and 43.8% in the regular season. To add insult to injury is the fact that Kobe only averaged 2.8 RPG and 4.4 APG THE ENTIRE SERIES. I know the injury bug hit the Lakers by this point and that the Pistons defense was on another level but this just goes to show that had Kobe simply dumped the ball down to Shaq and let him score, they could have probably won the series.
@gnicevids
@gnicevids 7 лет назад
Chauncey Billup said it all. I always said this dude Kobe is the most selfish player I've ever seen. He even hurts his team In clutch situations in the last 2 to 3 minutes of the game and the last 10 to 5 seconds. Stats proves my point. Players don't like playing with him
@TheseNUTZ588
@TheseNUTZ588 11 месяцев назад
This is why kobrick ain't top ten
@EatMoreCarbs256
@EatMoreCarbs256 4 года назад
This game shows me such how much of a beast shaq was even in his 12th year in the league, all they had to do was feed him every time
@hisokathemagician9237
@hisokathemagician9237 7 лет назад
Detroit Pistons Defense is the reason why the Lakers lost the 2004 finals
@johnmccarthy4003
@johnmccarthy4003 5 лет назад
Hisoka The Magician Shaq: 9-11FG | Rest of Lakers 9-30FG Your so wrong buddy...
@TommyB1
@TommyB1 5 лет назад
@@johnmccarthy4003 played to the pistons gameplan
@immaasshole4964
@immaasshole4964 5 лет назад
@@johnmccarthy4003 no he's right your wrong
@AllThingsKen
@AllThingsKen 5 лет назад
@@johnmccarthy4003 how is 9-30 wrong lol? that defense caused that
@shonensaiyan
@shonensaiyan 4 года назад
Kobe
@LVSkinny
@LVSkinny 2 года назад
I would have definitely been mad if I was Shaq lol. I can definitely understand his "selfish" comments
@giannisbetta3583
@giannisbetta3583 2 года назад
Ong
@d4mn3t
@d4mn3t 6 лет назад
imagine this game without shaq and only kobe 😄😄😄. tell me again how kobe CARRIED shaq to championships?
@Trump-yb4nn
@Trump-yb4nn 4 года назад
Shaq wouldn't have won without kobe and vice versa
@prancerjohnponce6889
@prancerjohnponce6889 4 года назад
@@Trump-yb4nn shaq could have won. kobe is actually letting him down.
@franknice187
@franknice187 4 года назад
@@Trump-yb4nn their record wasbetter without kobe......e plain that
@user-hx9po6ft5j
@user-hx9po6ft5j 3 года назад
Trump 2020 He won with wade dipshit. Yes the officiating was incredibly rigged towards the Heat. But still without Shaq they never even make it to the finals. What was Kobe doing those years while Shaq was carrying the Heat?
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 года назад
@@user-hx9po6ft5j Shaq never carried the Heat.
@AlanWatts33
@AlanWatts33 Год назад
These announcers are literally just Lakers fans sitting at home on the couch lol
@Trippygaming-cz7bn
@Trippygaming-cz7bn 3 года назад
Sickening play from kobe
@omerban6432
@omerban6432 7 лет назад
And people want to compare him to Michael
@brown123487
@brown123487 4 года назад
@@jhihadoutlaw5549 Kobe ain't shit,lol, you lame ass, he got carried by Shaq for 3 straight rings, and then cost them the 2004 championship by bricking all of those shots, lol
@brown123487
@brown123487 4 года назад
@D-NBA you can't compare pippen to Shaq, Shaq was the go to guy on that championship team,they had won 3 rings with feeding shaq, in the paint, 7 foot tall 25 points a game monster Shaq was, but Kobe got in his feelings and try to prove they could win a ring with him leading the pack and lost, lol
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 4 года назад
clinton mays Your right. I know for a damn fact in the 90s MJ would’ve won atleast 1 championship without Scottie. If LeBron had Kobe’s 2006 squad, I believe he would’ve went to the finals. He probably would’ve had 55 wins
@iranianintelligenceagency9337
@iranianintelligenceagency9337 3 года назад
@@wanilimbe In the west? Ha! No. LeBron Finals teams at least had one all-star caliber player (Mo Will, Illagalskus guy, etc.) and a few decent players before the roster turned to trash, no hate tho.
@phillipmoore6249
@phillipmoore6249 3 года назад
Jordan was so much better. He would of passed to Shaq and shaq would of passed to him. Not even close
@shemhernandez8640
@shemhernandez8640 3 года назад
The answer is kobe wanted to be 2004 mvp. Kobrick
@oldirtydasher
@oldirtydasher 6 лет назад
omg...i forgot how Wallace was abused by Shaq in 1st game.
@mohammedbabaki1534
@mohammedbabaki1534 4 года назад
Ol' Dirty Dasher people love saying how shaq could have averaged 50 for the series, but the reality is that he lacked the stamina and endurance it would have taken to have taken that many shots every game. He played 47 minutes in game 4 and then turned around and got outclassed by Ben Wallace in game 5. For shaq to have taken the volume of shots needed to score 50, his shooting percentage would have dropped and even his already abysmal free throw percentage would have suffered as well. The lakers lost to the better *TEAM*
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 4 года назад
Mohammed Babaki I believe they were fairly even. I think Lakers should’ve won. Kobe sold
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 3 года назад
@@mohammedbabaki1534 nah the lakers were the better team . Even Jordan after this series stated the pistons weren’t legit champions
@trumetalheadonmauiey9715
@trumetalheadonmauiey9715 6 лет назад
The Pistons just took it to the Lakers.
@vayduong6806
@vayduong6806 11 месяцев назад
Even later year Kobe won championships. It wasn’t him the team was loading. Bynum and gasoline were the biggest factors.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Месяц назад
Facts 😊
@Only2GendersCommonSense
@Only2GendersCommonSense 5 лет назад
Kobe fans will NEVER be able to get over Shaq winning all three finals MVPS during the 3-peat. It will haunt them FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES!!! 👻👻👻👻👻👻👻
@darkrh5404
@darkrh5404 5 лет назад
br 1251 um bro 😂
@AlanSelph
@AlanSelph 4 года назад
it ain’t that deep pimp
@jhihadoutlaw5549
@jhihadoutlaw5549 4 года назад
They won as a team so shut up.
@menace5802
@menace5802 3 года назад
Thats exactly why KOBRICK don’t belong in the goat convo. Got carried by someone on his first 3 rings, only won 1 mvp in 20 years and you got these Kobrick fanboys talking about he’s better than Jordan😂😂😂
@user-ss1ky4tu8y
@user-ss1ky4tu8y 3 года назад
@@menace5802 You suck
@DanielGarcia-qm7vv
@DanielGarcia-qm7vv 5 лет назад
Why tf did Kobe do this? Kobe had so many years left if he wanted to Prove he could be the NUMBER ONE OPTION.
@Ok-mr3te
@Ok-mr3te 4 года назад
Exactly
@saravanhoose1078
@saravanhoose1078 Год назад
To win mvp
@floydturner2957
@floydturner2957 4 года назад
I Kobe was tripping this entire series...no way they should have lost
@quintonalford2256
@quintonalford2256 7 лет назад
Kobe was flying from the court room straight to the finals a serious rape charge on his head
@timothystacks1257
@timothystacks1257 3 года назад
Bottom line Detroit Pistons were the better team because they had a much better defence than the Los Angeles Lakers and Defence wins Championships.
@PeanutButterAndJellyBros
@PeanutButterAndJellyBros 2 года назад
And this is a huge reason why Kobe ain’t a top 100. Single-handedly destroyed the lakers and got Shaq packing.
@jeremybamgbade
@jeremybamgbade 2 года назад
Okay. Stop it. He certainly isn't top 10, and for me, even top 20 is debatable but stop it with the nonsense. He is a top 100 player.
@droptopOX
@droptopOX 6 лет назад
This is one of the worst displays of selfishness that I’ve ever seen
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 года назад
Yes, because he wasn't even trying to hide it. It was obvious to everyone in the world what was going on. Even the Pistons knew it lol
@teddy1234599
@teddy1234599 7 лет назад
I watched ever minute of that series. I always loved both Shaq and Kobe; but THIS ONE was MOSTLY Kobe's fault. The Pistons were playing Shaq one-in-one. He would have either: fouled out every big man Detroit had on their team OR force them to double-team him - allowing Kobe to go off.
@Benjamin-gn5pb
@Benjamin-gn5pb 6 лет назад
Pablo Novi Shaq’s stats and shot attempts in that series weren’t that far off of his season average. The Lakers were never going to win that series. They could have played 10 more games and the pistons would probably have won every game. It was just the worst possible matchup for the Lakers
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-gn5pb Still doesn't change the fact shaq wouldve fould out the entire pistons team, then whos guarding shaq?
@Benjamin-gn5pb
@Benjamin-gn5pb 2 года назад
@@gangstagummybear3432 Just go back and watch the series - the games are all on RU-vid. The Lakers got dominated. It was just a terrible matchup for them. Not only did they struggle against the Detroit defense, they also had trouble playing defense against Detroit. That’s just a recipe for failure.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-gn5pb Unless the refs are corrupt, and dont give shaq foul cals, detroit is fuqued, even if you think shaq wont make freethrows.
@Benjamin-gn5pb
@Benjamin-gn5pb 2 года назад
@@gangstagummybear3432 Why are you even arguing on this? It wasn’t even like the series was close. They almost got swept and half the games were total blow outs. Shaq averaged 26.6 per game that series. A couple of the games they lost by like 20 points. Or one was, and the last game the Pistons were up by so much that they pulled the starters. So what do you saying, maybe if Shaq had just scored like 50 points a game then the Lakers would’ve easily won? Get the hell out of here man you sound stupid.
@Airdeemoney
@Airdeemoney 7 лет назад
So you don't give this detroit team any credit ????
@Madvillainy48
@Madvillainy48 6 лет назад
Airdeemoney 1 Saying that they can't stop Shaq, but they come in the game with a brilliant gameplan is not taking away any credit.
@Airdeemoney
@Airdeemoney 6 лет назад
It’s okay to agree to disagree!
@ComaAlpha
@ComaAlpha 6 лет назад
Larry Brown invented his own Chuck Daley "Jordan rules" on how to deal with Shaq and knew that Kobe's ego and anger with Shaq would ruin him.
@DNikos
@DNikos 4 года назад
No you absolutely give Detroit credit! Go back and look at Chaunceys quote. They knew mr ball hog wanted finals MVP and knew he would get frustrated if they just didn't double on Shaq. That was Detroit's game planning all the way. Doesn't matter if the Lakers had a better looking team it's about strategy so taking advantage of weaknesses is credit due. Just listen to the commentary in this video
@360escapades
@360escapades 4 года назад
No credit for Detroit lol
@brianthegoatscalabrine1315
@brianthegoatscalabrine1315 4 года назад
"he knows he is 1 for 6 as opposed to Shaq being 5/5". That tells it lol, 'mamba mentality'.
@christianhilbert1446
@christianhilbert1446 4 года назад
Shaq is 4 for 6 you dummy
@shemhernandez8640
@shemhernandez8640 3 года назад
@@christianhilbert1446 cry
@bencruz3805
@bencruz3805 3 года назад
@@christianhilbert1446 3:40
@kimjongun2946
@kimjongun2946 Год назад
Lol mamba mentality gay as fuck
@92CJLove
@92CJLove 7 лет назад
This was one of the greatest teams that didn't win a championship
@deucewayne449
@deucewayne449 5 лет назад
C.J. Love ???
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 9 месяцев назад
The series was basically Shaq vs Detroit and Kobe Lmao
@Jay-n262
@Jay-n262 2 года назад
The Pistons had an excellent game plan. Don't double Shaq and eventually Kobe will start pushing. Prince created allot of problems for Kobe.
@Swiftie-d2u
@Swiftie-d2u Год назад
it almost feels like shaq is having too much fun and kobe was getting jealous LMAOO
@Jay-n262
@Jay-n262 Год назад
They had more trouble dealing with Wade, Shaq, and Mourning. They beat them in 05 but lost to them in the 06 ECF.
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 6 лет назад
2:38 classic Shaq free throw lol
@JustinLeeper
@JustinLeeper 3 года назад
Hard to watch. And I was in LA, cheering on the Lakers even though I’ve never been a Kobe fan. This illustrated why. He deserves lots of credit, but I prefer a team player to a Melo/Kobe type.
@JustinLeeper
@JustinLeeper 2 года назад
@Ralph Lau I can’t disagree. Kobe was that good to be the best option 85% of the time. But he didn’t make his team better like LeBron or Magic or even Bird did.
@bobcousey3780
@bobcousey3780 8 лет назад
I don't understand how this has so little views
@kobenottop1003
@kobenottop1003 8 лет назад
Cuz I barely ever upload stuff so people don't pay attention to my channel.
@seppuku8415
@seppuku8415 7 лет назад
No because your name is stupid and if you really believe your name, then you are nothing more than a troll.
@jaymoney6233
@jaymoney6233 7 лет назад
+Kobe Not Top 100 Naw bruh you don't get many views becuz you are a hating ass bitch.Your channel name alone is a joke just like your life.
@darkrh5404
@darkrh5404 5 лет назад
Bob Cousey because your bias and jealous of a man way more successful than you lazy. Kobe doesn't respond by typing he responds with his talent. 81 points 62 points in 3 quarters
@atlaslion5128
@atlaslion5128 5 лет назад
Video The gamer Biased yea. But he presented facts here, 81 points is great but we are talking about the 2004 Finals.
@markfish1113
@markfish1113 3 года назад
LAL played like that in 2020 playoffs, it was like 2004 pistons and rough 80s bad boys defense.
@astashasta1
@astashasta1 3 года назад
the lakers that won in 2020? what?????
@ComaAlpha
@ComaAlpha 6 лет назад
13:00 how do you have a camera angle right there? is it in the floor or something?
@aesop730
@aesop730 4 года назад
ComaAlpha they had a floor cam.
@8mathdaddy
@8mathdaddy Месяц назад
Kobe got tired of Shaq getting all the Finals MVPs. He didn't want Shaq to get another so he just ball hogged.
@clipside4823
@clipside4823 2 года назад
Kobe would rather lose this series than give shaq another finals MVP and be the great second banana again
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 9 месяцев назад
100% Kobe literally lost this series on purpose just to spite Shaq.... but Piston fans act like this championship was impressive LOLOL
@jaheenahsan5227
@jaheenahsan5227 3 года назад
Kobe and MJ both had problems with the Pistons
@Sam-ky3su
@Sam-ky3su 3 года назад
Both of them did have problems with that team. The difference is that MJ was dominating them in points. Kobe was bricking.
@jaheenahsan5227
@jaheenahsan5227 3 года назад
@@Sam-ky3su Yeah I agree. I was just saying that 'cause I thought it was interesting to see how the same team caused problems against 2 of the greatest players to play the game.
@detroitfan9596
@detroitfan9596 7 лет назад
Pistons were just that good. They played better as a team. End of story
@ernestboykin2581
@ernestboykin2581 7 лет назад
Detroit Fan95 I loved that Laker team but they were outplayed in every since of the word only Shaq truly brought it only tru time I've seen Kobe shut down
@stillernation7163
@stillernation7163 6 лет назад
Detroit Fan95 Did you watch the video or are you just blindly defending Kobe
@musiclyrics4861
@musiclyrics4861 6 лет назад
He defending #BrickGod
@paulroys5019
@paulroys5019 6 лет назад
Pretty sure he's defending Detroit.
@jsrosete84
@jsrosete84 6 лет назад
pistons were good but not that good. if kobe played team ball and limited his shots they could have won the championship, or still lose but won more than 1 game
@KINGAMIIAMKING
@KINGAMIIAMKING 7 месяцев назад
Kobe didn't want Shaq to win another Finals MVP so he sabotaged the Lakers. Kobe would rather lose than be looked at as a sidekick teammate while Shaq wins another Finals MVP.
@paulroys5019
@paulroys5019 6 лет назад
I agree that Wallace didn't "shut Shaq down," but he and Campbell made him work. Eventually he got tired and that limited his total points. As great as the guy was, he didn't have Wilt Chamberlain level stamina. I'm not saying Kobe played perfectly, but the better team won. You're not going to win too many playoff series if your 3rd to 9th guys are outplayed by the other team's 3rd to 9th guys.
@DrSanto91
@DrSanto91 5 лет назад
Exactly they were not going to give shaq easy shots in the paint. And yes the pistons were the better team.
@ultimateyagerman
@ultimateyagerman 2 года назад
@@DrSanto91 🤡🤦‍♂️
@toddbrown9628
@toddbrown9628 7 лет назад
"Shaq getting more touches = easy 2004 championship" this is laughable. they were just plain outmatched. feeding shaq more sure as hell wouldnt of made enough of an impact to go from getting crushed in 5 games to an EASY championship. With Detroits D that year there was nothing they couldve done that wouldve made it an easy series that defense was way too much for them to handle as evidenced by them pathetic scores they put up. They lost every game by double digits and the final scores looked like scores from college games. Their one lonely win took a buzzer beater from kobe to force OT followed by Det choking in OT by scoring just 2 points. Just face it man they needed alot more then what shaq couldve done for em. They were outmatched in every aspect and they layed down like some heartless pussies when they realized they had no chance. Detroit's D = easy 2004 championship.
@1993smallz
@1993smallz 7 лет назад
funny thing is...wasnt this the season where shaq had got injured at some point the season before and said "I got injured on company time so Ill rehab on company time". And complains about touches??
@toddbrown9628
@toddbrown9628 7 лет назад
no that was in '01 when he hurt his big toe and then waited until after the '01-'02 preseason had already began before deciding to have surgery on it. I remember him saying it was still bothering him throughout the year but i think they still ended up winning the finals that year. I'm sure he was still complaining bout touches though too cuz that was during the big feud with Kobe.
@atlaslion5128
@atlaslion5128 6 лет назад
Detroit was prob still gonna win but the Lakers would have had a better chance running the offense through Oneal. He was the only guy putting up good numbers consistently.
@Only2GendersCommonSense
@Only2GendersCommonSense 5 лет назад
Kobe's 38% shooting certainly didn't help lol. Give it more to the guy who is shooting 63% from the field (MUCH more efficient than 38%). Duh.
@louisvelez40
@louisvelez40 7 лет назад
On Paper you woulda thought the Lakers should demolish the Pistons right? Nope. First off if it wasnt for Kobe's 33 and game tying 3 in Game 2, the Lakers get swept. The Pistons doubled and triple teamed Kobe while Shaq got single coverage. It was good Pistons defense and some poor shot selection by Kobe but he is not the main reason they lost. Shaq's defense got exposed in guarding the pick and roll plus Gary Payton couldn't play and grasp the triangle, Malone was hurt so chemistry was hurt, Fisher played 15 less minutes backing up GP so that was an adjustment, Kobe and Shaq's beef behind the scenes and through the media. I blame Phil for not making adjustments to the Pistons defense and there was a story that Fisher and Rick Fox both went to Phil and asked them to start but Phil's ego wasn't having it. The same 2 guys who helped Kobe and Shaq win 3 straight championships. Kobe becoming a FA, Malone and the Vanessa Bryant situation, Shaq asking for 30 mil a season when he came into camp out of shape since his first championship and Lakers not wanting to pay him, Phil creating a controversial book called the "Last Season" and says Kobe was deemed uncoachable. Kobe Rape trial case, all these things happening. In Phil's book Eleven rings, he even says with all the turmoil it was a miracle they went to the finals. Kobe deserves some but not all the blame. Why the Pistons were the better team and dominant defensively through tactical strategy. Why do you think Shaq averaged 36 ppg in this series? It's because with Shaq you dominate but that perimeter threat in Kobe puts you over the top. Larry Brown took the Strategy that the Lakers did in 2001 to his Sixers and Iverson. Iverson is gonna get his but gets 2-3 guys on him to make it difficult even if he averages over 30 and make someone else beat him who the Sixers had no threats other than Iverson.
@Dwade32
@Dwade32 2 года назад
Dude stfu. Kobe was absolute dogshit this whole series. He was the Number 1 reason they lost.
@louisvelez40
@louisvelez40 2 года назад
@@Dwade32 that was 4 years ago bud. I changed my tune on that. Kobe was the number 1 reason..........NEXT
@neglakay4373
@neglakay4373 4 года назад
The name of the channel is silly, but this video is the real deal.
@redfoxx1417
@redfoxx1417 Год назад
Whats even more puzzling is that in the previous championships he hit the same shots so mentally there was something going where he completely checked out
@jasen5379
@jasen5379 2 года назад
Kobe wanted to be mj shot the ball poorly kept on shooting anyway
@Honest15dx
@Honest15dx 6 лет назад
shaq ate ben wallace
@NewAgeSlaves
@NewAgeSlaves 2 года назад
Damn that was hard too watch at what point do you pull the guy?
@25mL
@25mL 2 года назад
So that's who supplied the bricks for the great Pyramid of Giza
@pauloaustria7798
@pauloaustria7798 4 года назад
And you think Kobe is Better than Lebron lol. Lebron and Shaq will combined 80 points a game in this series with 70%fg they would be unstoppable without a doubt. If Bron can pass the ball to his scrub team mates in Cleveland how much more he played with Prime Shaq. Phil should bench Bryant on this series and they probably had swept the Pistons.
@Ok-mr3te
@Ok-mr3te 4 года назад
Paulo Austria Thanks man
@manniesupasport7977
@manniesupasport7977 2 года назад
2011 NBA Finals LeBron outplayed by Jason Terry
@stephaniechavez7436
@stephaniechavez7436 5 лет назад
Kobe let the team down trying to be mvp sad couldve had six rings but trying to be like mike cossed
@rey-l6q
@rey-l6q 7 лет назад
Totally agree, Lakers should always have Shaq as the focal point of their offense.
@Madvillainy48
@Madvillainy48 7 лет назад
Kobe vs. the Pistons was just as bad as a meltdown as LeBron vs. the Mavs.
@DoomDarenxbourg
@DoomDarenxbourg 6 лет назад
Kobe was going for his 4th Ring, not his 1st.
@futuregohan4837
@futuregohan4837 3 года назад
@Gr8 1 Jordan Would've Torched Those Bums In His Prime lmao
@markmacon6792
@markmacon6792 3 года назад
@@simonbelmont548 Bleacher report top 50 NBA best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field Goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 Points scored career LeBron 34,241✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3point shots made LeBron 1,875✔️ Kobe 1,827 Steals career LeBron 2,015✔️ Kobe 1,944 Blocks career LeBron 957✔️ Kobe 640 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Defensive win shares LeBron 70.43✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career high scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs scoring LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoff game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Dallas swept Kobe to stop him from having 6 rings ha ha Pippen 6 rings more than Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings means nothing Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe in 22 career meetings I just ended yo career Kobetard
@johnny6610
@johnny6610 2 года назад
This is when Kobe should’ve taken a book out of Jordan page, play like 91 finals Jordan….
@TheGr8-1
@TheGr8-1 2 года назад
91 Jordan? He couldn’t even play like 2002 Jordan in this series lol.
@Discipleofthelordandjesus
@Discipleofthelordandjesus 2 года назад
@@TheGr8-1 lmaooo he was on par with 2011 Lebron and Jason terry😭
@jayyarbrough9902
@jayyarbrough9902 5 лет назад
Shaq was slowing down and played zero defense. Kobe had a bad series, but that Lakers team had lots liabilities.
@LanceG007
@LanceG007 4 года назад
Jay Yarbrough exactly people act like this team was smoking people
@DNikos
@DNikos 4 года назад
Shaq wasn't slowing down for shit! He didn't get the fucking ball as much cuz the selfish cocksucker wanted to be finals MVP. Ask anyone on that Lakers team!
@envyops
@envyops 4 года назад
@@DNikos Kobe defended every possession, while Shaq didn't even get a block per game. Kobe only shot 38%, but Shaq the only player that shot over 40% for the series. Lakers got exposed. Kobe the only other player to average double figures. Shaq could have averaged 50 ppg and they still would have gotten spanked.
@DNikos
@DNikos 4 года назад
@@envyops ur wrong but ok. Obviously you didn't watch or hear it. Kobe even admitted he fucked that up & plenty of teammates came out to confirm his selfishness wanted that finals MVP. I'm a Kobe lover not a hater but nice try on trying to change the narrative. Tell that bullshit to a casual fan..
@gnicevids
@gnicevids 7 лет назад
Kobe was willing to be selfish and get his instead of going in to shaq and go with the flow of the offense and win a Third Straight Championship. This prove how egotistical this guy is and selfish.
@ttsiu7542
@ttsiu7542 3 года назад
If his shots all pass to Shaq Maybe there will be a chance to win
@jukztv76
@jukztv76 Год назад
Chauncey robbed Kobe of the Finals MVP, he's the main reason why Pistons won lol
@anthonysaster8181
@anthonysaster8181 6 лет назад
Anybody that wants to say that kobe is better than lebron just watch this video. Clearly shaq was the best player on his team when the lakers 3 peated in the early 2000’s. Just saying. He had 3 nba finals mvps, snd 3 regular season mvps. But what do i know.
@jiojihardvea2008
@jiojihardvea2008 7 месяцев назад
Kobe never wanted 6 rings
@derrickharris223
@derrickharris223 2 года назад
Most missed shots in NBA history, just guess......this ain't his only game like this. Kobe! Most overrated player ever. You can't put his name with Michael or even LeBron 27ppg vs 24.9 ppg, and much more efficient. Kobe has the same career shooting percentage as Westbrook. Please.
@jamesfernandez3627
@jamesfernandez3627 8 лет назад
If only Shaq stayed in Orlando, with a healthy Penny, they could've won more than 3 Championships.
@Betelgeuse2142
@Betelgeuse2142 Год назад
Kobe learnt from this and ended up winning two more rings on his own
@mcdude9578
@mcdude9578 6 лет назад
yeah they had two old dudes and gary hadn't played with shaq. when the heat one that was gp's 3rd year playing with shaq.
@jasonborne4931
@jasonborne4931 7 лет назад
The only game they won against the Pistons was Kobe's greatest game ever he played like life and death was in the balance I was always a Kobe hater for obvious reasons but I had so much respect for him after that game
@kipto89
@kipto89 4 года назад
but he made them lose 4 games
@tyroneshavers9847
@tyroneshavers9847 3 года назад
The Announcers were spot on😭🤷🏾
@BenFrankMadeThis808
@BenFrankMadeThis808 3 года назад
How in TF are they catching those floor cam shots??? 😲😲🤔
@tianweiliu2555
@tianweiliu2555 6 лет назад
Expected more on King’s offence vs Pistol’s defence for that season..
@GrandStaffKatua44
@GrandStaffKatua44 6 лет назад
I remember that '04 Pistons run, and it was awesome stuff. People don't realize that the Pistons had easily one of the best defenses in the league at the time and limiting opponents to 70 points or less wasn't an uncommon feat. The only team that had a better D was the Spurs...who they took to 7 games the following year. Pretty sure if Larry Brown stayed focused on the team, it could've been two straight championships. Larry was the right coach for this team for the long haul, but he couldn't stay focused.
@Darknightssz
@Darknightssz 7 лет назад
They could've four in a row. Kobe is my favorite player, but dang man
@mickeyjohnson5247
@mickeyjohnson5247 4 года назад
If the Lakers had won this series, it wouldn't have been four in a row.... They didn't go to the Finals the year before (2003)... The Spurs won the title that year....
@mickeyjohnson5247
@mickeyjohnson5247 4 года назад
@@simonbelmont548 I agree
5 лет назад
Why do you use toaster to upload video?
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 4 года назад
Everyone brings up Lebron against the Mavs when the GOAT talk comes up but they stay silent about Kobe's biggest failure: this series. He got exposed for being a selfish player and then couldn't get out of the first round 3 years in a row.
@kawaiiafangirl
@kawaiiafangirl 3 года назад
I try not to speak ill of the deceased but you're right about Kobe fans bringing up LeBron losing to the Mavs but not about losing 4-1 against the Pistons (which I remember everyone was saying that it was a huge upset and that it was a "5 game sweep"). Not only that, but there are other inconsistencies with Kobe fans hating on LeBron such as claiming LeBron chokes wile Kobe gave up a 3-1 lead against the Suns and laugh at LeBron losing against the Mavs when those very same Mavericks team swept Kobe's Lakers who won 57 games and won their 2nd championship the year prior.
@Bountyville424
@Bountyville424 8 лет назад
kobe weak
@jhihadoutlaw5549
@jhihadoutlaw5549 4 года назад
Bitch you weak shut up!
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