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@AncientOrange
@AncientOrange 2 года назад
Hiding the Targaryen heirs on Dragonstone is like a pirate hiding treasure on Buried Treasure Island.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
*taps forehead* it's the last place they'd look
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 Год назад
They could always be tossed onto Driftmark with the Velaryons or put in with the Celtigars. Always thought it was weird they never elaborated on that
@huntershepherd23
@huntershepherd23 10 месяцев назад
Kinda like when Bran and Rickon hide in the crypts. Nobody even looked there because they were sure they’d have fled.
@TheCreepyLantern
@TheCreepyLantern 2 года назад
i FELT that silence of awe from the song quote because it gave me the CHILLS. bravo Zack (Zach?) bravo
@TheCreepyLantern
@TheCreepyLantern 2 года назад
also i can't believe you guys are from the planet nostromo.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 года назад
Fuck yeah, the red door is one of my favourite ASOIAF mysteries mainly because I also moved around a lot as a child and really struggle with my childhood memories and figuring out what was real and what was just a dream/misremembering so this feels really close to home, the fact that this one concept can completely throw Dany’s identity and her entire timeline into question is dope
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
It's one of my favorite things in the series. It resonates with me pretty strongly too, and it's one of the parts of the story that gets the most conspiratorial. And you know I love conspiratorial in this story lol
@MrSilvUr
@MrSilvUr 2 года назад
Tom out here in The Free City of Greyhawk, saving the *goddamn day* for young lovers. Bless you, man.
@leafeon4t
@leafeon4t 2 года назад
I think the idea of Dany's red door being painted black could parallel really well to all those POV character experiences of the Battle of the Blackwater, which had such notable features as smoke on the water and fire in the sky. Special mention must be made for Tyrion, as despite being from a very wealthy family, he ain't no fortunate son. It all will really pay off when he joins Jaime, zombie Jon and Maester Sam to discuss what to do about Dany, as he can explain just how bad things could get once the boys are back in town.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
Dude this is a great take. We might be able to fit in CCR after all.
@Rougarou99
@Rougarou99 2 года назад
Maybe the entire story will end with the main characters left just deciding to go sitting on the dock of the (Blackwater) bay.
@overlookers
@overlookers Год назад
The _Song_ of Ice and Fire is Maggot Brain
@danielturczan2485
@danielturczan2485 10 месяцев назад
Man, I can't believe that Zach and Tom, unlike lemons, are from Braavos.
@fiver-hoo
@fiver-hoo 11 месяцев назад
"Death comes out of the dragons mouth, but death does not go in that way" In this passage, Tyrion is describing the strategy to attack a dragon with scrorpion or crossbow.. The eyes and the brain are the most vulnerable. The belly is not soft as the old tales would tell you, and "not down the gullet, either. That was madness."
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for reminding me of this wonderful one. ❤️❤️
@reddest-x
@reddest-x Год назад
Tom, you're a hero.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
I have been told this lol
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 3 месяца назад
Truly. I am in awe! Given my experience with police down in the south where I’m at… I’d have been the ones they were coming for…
@MrSilvUr
@MrSilvUr 2 года назад
Hey, guys, Peter Griffin here, AND WE ARE HERE TO MELT YOUR FACES!!! EYEAAAGHHH!
@justthat4333
@justthat4333 Год назад
thanks peeta
@toraph1
@toraph1 2 года назад
I can't believe Zach and Tom are from Whiterun, I wonder if they get to the cloud district very often
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
On holidays, but not as often as I'd like.
@ChrisPeteG
@ChrisPeteG 2 года назад
Interesting. I never put much thought into the "Red Door means Dany isn't a real Targ" business...but it being a set up to allow gaslighting, disinformation, and doubt about her claim is a really interesting, wild, and plausible reading of that. Doesn't Dany have a repeating mantra to the effect of "If I doubt myself I am lost" or something? If she doubts herself and then loses it...we're in for a wild turn of events.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
She does say that! She alternates between that and 'if I look back I am lost.' That's a good pull.
@StrangeGamer859
@StrangeGamer859 4 месяца назад
The human heart in conflict with itself... Fuck this one is good
@anyaabusable9888
@anyaabusable9888 29 дней назад
If she doubts herself, she might go nuts and burn a city to the ground!
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan Год назад
COOLEST story ever! Distracting cops to protect some young lovers (or just young fuckers) is an admirable deed. ACAB, always look out for people
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 3 месяца назад
ACAB And protect the young lover and fuckers. They’re the future, cops are the past
@chaos_reigns4022
@chaos_reigns4022 2 года назад
Before this theory, I was looking into my own theory about Dany being a Blackfire, mostly based off the R+L=fA theory and the fact that black metal dragon sign came back rusted red. Now none of us will truly know the truth, as we will have to consider all evidence towards Dany being or not being a Targaryen as parts of elaborate information/misinformation campaigns.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
That's what I'm thinking. I think it's going to be very ambiguous until very late in the story.
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 3 месяца назад
Tge original “stop tge steal!” When will enough be enough?
@MeeraReads
@MeeraReads Год назад
Tom, you are a saint
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 3 месяца назад
Literally restoring my faith in humanity, slightly… not enough to balance things out… just enough to make me feel more lonely and wish for anyone to care about me enough to do such a thing.
@Jakeabe
@Jakeabe 2 года назад
I can’t belive Zach’s Forgotten Realms and Tom’s from Gallifrey.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
As the resident time traveler, I came back to explain the plot of The Winds of Winter exactly.
@Elliot226
@Elliot226 Год назад
Not done hearing the theory yet, so I'll edit if this is answered, but my immediate question/skepticism to Varys being successful in trying to gaslight Dany was "But she has REAL DRAGONS??" So like...obviously she's not a fake. Unless he has a way to take all of them, but that seems to be what Euron and Victarion's storyline is about. Like honestly, who would listen to Varys when she controls the only 3 living dragons in the world? And no hate to you guys, I am so happy I found your channel this weekend. Just me being a skeptic. Varys having her mom's crown is really fascinating and I never even considered he might do something like that (which IS a very Varys thing to do) So not answered, BUT that song tie in was really fucking cool. I wonder if Varys might just enact his plan before Dany comes to Westeros, so no one there would know the dragons are real. And that might just mess with her head hearing about it and not having a way to defend herself. And I can't believe Zach and Tom are from Gotham City. Blew my fucking mind.
@MugenHeadNinja
@MugenHeadNinja Год назад
Just to clarify for them, having three dragons would throw a wrench in things a bit (I personally think she'll lose them eventually, except for Drogon). But the idea is that she's a Blackfyre fake instead of a true Targaryen, when the opposite is what's likely to be true, being a Blackfyre makes her having a Dragon not impossible and could be explained to the court and understood by the smallfolk. (Especially if FAegon is somehow able to get one of her dragons).
@raph3699
@raph3699 11 месяцев назад
They could be presented as blackfyre hence the dragons but what I really wonder is why do you want to make an enemy out of the only person with dragons in the world, even if she only has one left become people came to steal them, she still has a dragon, probably the biggest one even.
@peterusmc20
@peterusmc20 4 месяца назад
I went and watched paint it black after this and man i am so convinced. I also find story and in particular character inspiration in particular songs. And i see this EXACTLY in paint it black for dany. Pretty much every major character beat is touched on it that song. She could not forsee this thing happening to you about the unintended consequences of her actions such as with drogo. The girls walking by in summer clothes and that emphasis on summer is striking. If i look hard enough into the setting sun. What is in the direction of the setting sun? The west, westeros. Similar the mentions of my green sea could refer to the dothraki sea and not turning blue meanibg drogo not crossing the sea for her. People quickly looking away both being her and viserys when they were young, her touring the cities in the early books and when she returns to westerous as spectulated here. The mentioning of the newborn baby, mentioning of flowers and my love being jon, no colours anymore being a rejection of the houses system similar to the rejection of slavery. My love will laugh with me before the morning comes, in particular that her love will do something before morning. That dany wont see the morning, the end of the long night. The way the song builds up to painting everything black when we have a black dragon in the story where a point has been made of dragons having different coloured flames generally matching their scales and that aegon the conquerers dragon who drogon parallels had black flames. She will literally paint westerous black with drogos fire in the crescendo after the rising tension like in the song. Similarly, blotted out from the sky and blotting out the sun in particular could be ending the martels in parrallel to aegon and his sisters not doing so. Quentyn has already "died" to her dragons. But also drogon literally blotting out the sun and is described black as night at one point right? I genuinely cant not believe this now. Dany is literally the song paint it black!!!
@addisonhamilton3382
@addisonhamilton3382 7 месяцев назад
50:18 So I'm actually rereading the books rn, and Varys' "I hate magic" speech is there! Some Tyrion chapter in ACOK; my digital copy of the book has it on pages 897-899/1390.
@MegaDook56
@MegaDook56 Год назад
Holy shit I'm so happy to hear that you guys come up with stories by listening to songs to death sometimes. I don't talk about it much, but all my friends are surprised by that when I tell them that's what I've done since I got my first walkman. They just think of parallels to their life. I figured other people have to come up with stories this way, but never heard anyone talking about it.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
Maybe a stream some time could be a writer's room with some of our favorite music! That would be a blast!!
@SpiralSine6
@SpiralSine6 Год назад
1:14:55 that stunned silence is so good. This is such a tight theory, from the information war to the Vietnam parallels.
@Ryan6586
@Ryan6586 Год назад
I can't believe Zach and Tom are from Stormwind
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
You caught us, damn.
@halocat4077
@halocat4077 7 дней назад
Him talking about writing personal fiction and listening to a song to death to imagine scenes and key moments... oh man, I feel you so much. (I mostly write for myself- little bit published, nothing earth-shaking- and music is absolutely the key for me, as I think it is for GRRM and many more. Language of the soul 100%.) Excellent freaking job with the theory! EDIT TO ADD: And to think it came from two guys in Clock Town, Termina.
@gottagodomino
@gottagodomino 5 месяцев назад
Was not expecting to tune into ASOIAF theories and hear Buffalo references. Go Bills!
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 5 месяцев назад
AYYYYYY. GO BILLS.
@lordxelizor
@lordxelizor 2 года назад
Upstate gang! Not the greatest gang sadly but it’s our gang and we gotta make do
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
*jumps through table*
@ryankrelic971
@ryankrelic971 2 года назад
Tom's thoughts when he looked into that car. 'Fucking, confirmed'
@dodgeahray1231
@dodgeahray1231 2 года назад
HEARD IT FROM A FRIEND WHOOoo
@dodgeahray1231
@dodgeahray1231 2 года назад
heard it from a friend whoOO heard it from another you burned King's Landing to the grouuund.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
Heard you got a boyfriend. But that you're relaaaated! We're talking about you and you're burning things doooown.
@keithbidwell7070
@keithbidwell7070 Год назад
I can’t believe Zac and Tom are from Arkham Massachusetts.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
Cthulhu fthagn mrlrllrlrlrl
@eren__morwen5947
@eren__morwen5947 3 месяца назад
This might be the greatest Asoiaf theory I've ever heard
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 3 месяца назад
It is maybe the most correct theory for every come up with
@DukeDukeGo
@DukeDukeGo Год назад
Wow I can't believe someone from Pelican Town in the Ferngill Republic cracked this wide open
@connorbrooks7501
@connorbrooks7501 3 месяца назад
It was pretty obvious he lives in Buffalo just by observing his behavior
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 3 месяца назад
Jumps through table
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 2 года назад
R’lyeh is supposed to have a very great view of the stars, I envy you a bit for being able to experience that daily/nightly
@angelajansons9037
@angelajansons9037 Месяц назад
This is brilliant. I can't believe you guys are from the Undying Lands
@samuelbattershell3413
@samuelbattershell3413 Год назад
25:42, I came for the theories, but God these tangents are awesome. We need a video that is just tangents. ♡ you guys
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
The videos will slowly become 100% tangent
@hacman8732
@hacman8732 2 года назад
I can’t believe Zach and Tom are from Bajore
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
Light of the Prophets guide your way, child.
@jackhill3273
@jackhill3273 2 года назад
I can't believe Zack and Tom are all the way from Minas Tirith!
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
We've been made. Men of the West, flee.
@Pepsiman1848
@Pepsiman1848 Месяц назад
I know I’m way too late pointing this out but when ilyrio is called a bravo, it refers to the historical job, rather than the place. The bravi were especially common in Italy (hence the Italian name) and they have a reputation as rogueish sellswords
@sirshauwn
@sirshauwn 2 года назад
Those lines are definitely squiggly
@alyswesthill3562
@alyswesthill3562 Год назад
wow I can't believe y'all are from Leng Ma!
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
What's Leng Ma?
@alyswesthill3562
@alyswesthill3562 Год назад
city on the Isle of Leng
@ethanl902
@ethanl902 Месяц назад
dunno if this was intended as an antijoke but this is so funny somuch love
@alyswesthill3562
@alyswesthill3562 Месяц назад
@@ethanl902 I couldn’t even tell ya. Was so long ago I don’t remember 😭
@alyswesthill3562
@alyswesthill3562 Месяц назад
@@ethanl902 Actually I think it was a request from within the video that people comment something like that to indicate they’d finished the video…? Maybe? But I really can’t remember.
@northernbound93
@northernbound93 2 года назад
This is my favorite of your theories so far, despite the low blow with the Green Day comment :)
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
I petition to change the channel to "The Boulevard of Broken Memes"
@northernbound93
@northernbound93 2 года назад
@@InterestingNerdClub whoa whoa, slow down there, don’t wanna be a Westerosi Idiot
@ContactsNfilters
@ContactsNfilters 6 месяцев назад
Where do Thors go? To the Ho-door! I Loki was gonna say it with the original question Tyrion kept asking until i heard you say Thor. Thanks for keeping my comment from being deleted due to YT censorship.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 6 месяцев назад
"Of course RU-vid, were saying Thor. We would never say anything else."
@Chubbasaurus
@Chubbasaurus 7 месяцев назад
The writing being inspired by music thing? Yeah, I do that too. Like. A lot.
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 7 месяцев назад
It's my favorite theory here. Very good, very very good.
@lyndsiedavis4490
@lyndsiedavis4490 3 месяца назад
can’t believe zach and tom are from homeworld 😳
@StrangeGamer859
@StrangeGamer859 4 месяца назад
50:50 OH MY GOD I GOT IT! VARYS CAN SEE THE THIRD WALL! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! THAT'S WHY WE NEVER SEE HIS CHAPTERS! HE IS DELIBERATELY HIDING FROM *US*!!!!!
@isabeldilkey1975
@isabeldilkey1975 6 месяцев назад
Wow, i can't believe Zack and Tom are from Dawnstar!
@angelajansons9037
@angelajansons9037 День назад
I can't believe Zac and Tom are from Whoville.
@noravanguard
@noravanguard 7 месяцев назад
That Kingdom Hearts section had me dying lol
@zenmasterfu
@zenmasterfu Месяц назад
Some heroes don't wear capes
@brynt9835
@brynt9835 11 месяцев назад
Gosh 40 minutes in and still waiting for the theory
@ndsketcher6445
@ndsketcher6445 2 года назад
35:00 Oh Tom. *Him and these* great squiggly lines. Did I do it right?
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
HIM AND THESE
@ndsketcher6445
@ndsketcher6445 2 года назад
@@InterestingNerdClub Oh btw. Spoilers for the end of this video but I found this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j6IsmefJ6TY.html
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
@@ndsketcher6445 that's too good. Maybe the whole end of Season 8 was a clever metaphor we can fit in.
@vanessaamesty6739
@vanessaamesty6739 Год назад
Oh wow this is crazy
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
This one do be kinda wild
@OkLikeWhatever
@OkLikeWhatever 2 года назад
Daenerys = Dayne+ Aerys. or Ashara Dayne + Aerys Targaryen.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 года назад
GRRM doesn’t really do the name combo thing. Plus, there’s just really no states interaction between the two, and it’s explicitly stated that Aerys lost all interest in other women after 275 and there’s 0 evidence that that is untrue. Aside from a very desperate name stretch there’s just no reason to think this is true, unless Bran Stark is actually the son of his uncle and a member of house Dondarrion because Bran+Don. If GRRM was to make Dany someone other that who she says she is, he isn’t just going to make her a slightly less good Targaryen, she’ll be some random Lysene peasant girl or maybe a blackfyre. That would be thematically relevant and an actual blow. What’s the point of a bait and switch identity if your identity doesn’t actually change?
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
Oh my god is Dany a Hodor thing? Are all the characters Hodor things?? Is Melisandre Meikar and Sandor? Is Tormund like Tore the Mound, and does that make him The Gravedigger? Dude I'm gonna have a field day with this. New favorite theory.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 года назад
@@InterestingNerdClub Ned is the son of Dolores Edd and Jon Arryn. Edd+Arr(d)
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
@@emilybarclay8831 oh my god Tyrion is the son of Tywin and Jorah. George knew that Iain Glenn was going to play him since book one. We've cracked it.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 года назад
@@InterestingNerdClub fucking confirmed
@franciscovega2042
@franciscovega2042 2 года назад
That was good.
@AlaricXIII
@AlaricXIII 2 года назад
I thought the obvious song you were going for was Ride of the Valkyries which works thematically but confused me as to how it would add information to what you had already discussed.
@sandiaYpescado
@sandiaYpescado Год назад
Sorry but … paint it black was used for the show China Beach and that’s why it’s associated with that war.
@Nenernener123
@Nenernener123 10 месяцев назад
24:53 New here! 👋 At this point I am legit curious if I am unknowingly high! 😹
@haerverk
@haerverk 11 месяцев назад
It's called "waylay", not "heist".
@HFeyn
@HFeyn Год назад
holy fuuuuuck
@GeronimoPlaz
@GeronimoPlaz 6 месяцев назад
Why did this take 11 minutes to start?
@GeronimoPlaz
@GeronimoPlaz 6 месяцев назад
Never mind, over 15 minutes. Goodbye lol
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 3 месяца назад
@@GeronimoPlazname checks out at least… Seriously you bailed after hearing the story of him risking his life for the future of mankind? You’re one cold blooded person.
@Jakeabe
@Jakeabe 2 года назад
No Among Us?????????? Downvote
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 2 года назад
What terrible can of worms have I opened.
@geoffwilliams6072
@geoffwilliams6072 8 месяцев назад
Go Bills
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub 8 месяцев назад
*jumps through table*
@Henbot
@Henbot 7 месяцев назад
Daenerys I think
@norbix-od7rt
@norbix-od7rt 11 месяцев назад
Yeah you spelled Daenerys wrong
@lordxelizor
@lordxelizor 2 года назад
The only problem with this theory is that I don’t like Paint it Black. Second worst Stones song
@loveagoodqueef
@loveagoodqueef Год назад
this is a sad fucking theory its 4 am and im crying u guys are so good at this
@loveagoodqueef
@loveagoodqueef Год назад
im genuinely so fucking distraught, i need forget everything pills. pacing back and forth this is so horrible, out of all the ways this could go this would be one of the worst. i hope grrm writes the worst ending instead of this because i would keel over and die. id rather have a white walker W instead of this. I hope jon con gives aegon greyscale, varys too. i hope all of those bitches turn crusty as that would be so much better than this RAAAAAH SO FULL OF RAGE
@InterestingNerdClub
@InterestingNerdClub Год назад
It's the best theory we've ever done on the channel. I'm mad that Zac came up with it instead of me.
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan Год назад
Okay after all that, lots of fun thanks for the theory. I came here from a @michaeltalksaboutstuff4664 video and hadn’t seen your channel before. very happy, y’all are great! subbed
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