The Red Flags Missed in the Tragic OceanGate Case, Ex-Employee Exposes CEO 

I had a student come to class even though her mother had died the day before. It’s not necessarily unhealthy, for many people going forward with plans and activities helps them process the stages of grief, and makes the initial shock easier to cope with.

@sarah259 I didn't do normal things, instead people made sure I got to do fun stuff I usually didn't get to do. I was constantly with my friends, I was going to amusement parks, and getting to do all kinds of activities. I was 14, I didn't actually start grieving till I was 18-19. I'm now almost 23 and have a kid of my own. For me it wasn't sticking to a plan, it was putting a barbie bandaid on something that needed stitches, I hope that's not what that guy is doing. He probably bought the tickets months ago and was excited for it and thought it could give him a couple hours of stress relief. I hope the families of these people are doing okay. Rich or not, losing a loved one is far fr easy.

I think my problem was he posted about it and came up with excuses

Same , when my mom died her family gave me and my siblings money and we bought a membership to water park place for a year

No one should presume to tell anyone how to behave during a death, because kids are going to still run and play. That said, the fool kid was not in a grief stage yet. He was in a crisis. When adults are in a crisis, they stay together and comfort each other while little boys play. The fool kid was immature and did not understand that he needed to be with his family until the crisis was resolved. When the sun was found and everyone was known to be dead, it was perfectly okay for him to go to a concert. But he’s an immature child who doesn’t take his responsibilities in a crisis. Boys like that are the same kind who drop their wives off at the hospital and go to a concert when their kids are being born. They don’t understand what it means to be in a family crisis, they don’t care, and they leave it to the adult women to take care of. The fool kid probably never saw his stepfather and didn’t give a rip.

Good point. Never thought of that.

More importantly, the Titan had already done a couple of dives that far down.

OceanGate had a 100% safety record prior to the implosion.

@@buckmurdock2500 As Inspector Jacques Clouseau would say "NOT ANYMORE."

Good shout

well he was a rich man child so what do you seriously expect he didn't care if someone told him he was going to fail he had the assumption that cause he was rich he couldn't fail no matter anything he did or didn't do🤣🤣🤣

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Agree. 💯

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Idiots get what they ask for.

Exactly, he was a narcissist.

This

I guess ocean exploration is like the wild west, anything goes. He did believe in his invention or he wouldn't have went. Too bad people followed him.

@@averageguy1261 and many experts have warned him, but he was too arrogant.

Indeed; the difference between the vacuum of space and the inside of a rocket at normal pressure is a mere 1 Bar. And as the experimental Bigby Inflatable Habitats proved, you don't even need metal for all the spaceship! For parts that require strength, carbon fibre needs to be laid in alternating crosswise sections. The way they made the Titan's hull was to simply wind carbon fibre into a cylinder, making it susceptible to compression. There's a reason all other submersible passenger/pilot cabins are spherical; it's the strongest shape against external pressure - a cylinder is far weaker.

Actually the forces on lots of the parts as it goes into space is far hgjher than 5000 psi but those forces are not coming in from all directions or going out in high amounts. Hence whatever parts get that kind of force are designed for that. Can't compare sub to space station but instead the rocket ship gets it there. Best example of a pressure coming in that covers ship is reentry. Lol those hear mg tiles there because of frictional pressure. Lol it registers in the 100ks psi but its mostly frictional and one sided. Instead of imploding at that speed if not heat protected you'd burn into a crispy cinder well under a second if not ripped apart faster. Red bull jumper suit was way more for friction and reentry pressure than coldness of height. Lol think of putting your face out of window when in car lol. That's only highway speed not fifty times that

Rush still reminds me of some of those"style" salesman selling cars or homes to people, inviting them to come ride his 'titan". It is a real "cream puff", you will love it for my asking price of only 250k😫

My husband pointed out it’s the crappiest controller he could’ve chosen too 😂

Yeah but people are also saying they picked a really low quality prone to failure controller though, which is way riskier than an xbox controller. My friends dad certifies subs as his daily job and he said he was shocked by the choice of controller, and he wondered what fail safes were put in place in case the controller malfunctions. To my knowledge the only fail safes were the elevator like buttons, but i wonder what they’d do if they were positioned under something & couldn’t move ? you can’t just rise to the top then

one controller, no backups if something happened, doesn’t sound safe at all

The submersibles that go down that far cost like $40 million and only fit 2 or 3 people. That guy built a discount version. It was the Renault Le Car of submersibles.

Right, I’m SCARED of water where its too dark to not see my feet😭. & I if I step on something I be scared shitless cus what if a crab bites my toe off. 💀

Yeah I got an anxiety attack on the Nemo submarine ride at Disneyland that's only 1ft below water

I get you! I don't like closing my eyes in the shower lol

​@@Jasmin-me9jl😂 The crab would most likely clip it off with it's claws 🦀🦀🦀

​@@Jasmin-me9jl The chances of a crab biting your toe off are ZERO. Crab don't bite, they have pincers on their legs that could grab your toes, but not their mouths. The chances of a toe getting cut off are extremely tiny. In any case, you risk far more getting into a car or crossing a street or being in your own kitchen or bathroom than swimming or walking in water. The majority of accidents occur in people's homes!!!

The navy gave the information about the explosion sound to the search party. The media definitely doesn’t need that information. Everyone who’s saying the opposite should overthink their life.

Exactly. There's a reason that they have human remains detection and recovery teams in Search and Rescue. You're not just going to stop searching until you have confirmation, ideally.

Yeah, at that point, it is super reasonable to continue searching and not state cause of death, until they have more solid proof.

i do not agree. the navy didn’t just detect a random sound and claimed it was it, the sound matched with previous implosion patterns and the area matched that of the whereabouts of the submersible at the time. searching past the times the oxygen runs out is pointless, they would’ve been dead by then, it would’ve been really reckless and puts way more people at risk than the initial number of victims. searching underwater is like a death sentence especially at that depth, plus even if they managed to find the wreckage, the chances of recovering any body parts is slim, so slim that anything you’d manage to find would be a mush of all the people who were on board at best, a few pieces at worst, no one would be recognizable in the least and both cases are absolutely not worth making anyone go through that recovery process and trauma. it’s really not just because the navy said that that the search party stopped, it’s simply not possible to do anything the moment that the oxygen runs out and the wreckage touches the bottom, any attempt at recovering it would be more unethical than just leaving it where it is

This is a complicated one. The Navy did hear the noises and they did tell the correct people who were allowed to have such information during the search as this video does not go in the exact order things were released to the public. These are navel acoustic devices and more for "Navy" purposes than use in civilian issues. The US Coast Guard and everyone involved including France sending in their unmanned underwater unit did continue the search until all hope was lost, but certain things, including the Navel info and other mechanics were taken into account, some mentioned in this video. For instance the US Coats Guard has no way to retrieve the vessel if found on the first day. When calls were made, there was not a vessel that could have made any type of rescue dive that was within the 96 hour time frame they had. They were really hoping the ballasts had dropped and the vessel came to the surface because they didn't have any way to retrieve the submersible. Others who do this type of stuff always have another rescue vehicle available within a certain distance/time frame, but the Ocean Gate CEO was not into "Safety" or by his own quote "then don't get out of bed in the morning". You need to also remember that people, especially in the US, do not search without hope and releasing info like "Well, our Navy thinks everyone died because they listen all of the time underwater" would probably not have people looking very hard. Other countries were much more realistic than the US about the likely outcome.

The youhng man's mother did an interview, she was supposed to go down but gave her son the ticket because he wanted to be the first person to solve a Rubix Cube at the Titanic. Whoever started the "didn't want to go" rumour was not accurate.

@Kiefsti either way it's sad that he lost his life so young

yet thousands of people have gone down… hmm

@@dd4850 the materials of the sub weren’t properly pressure tested. Multiple times going to the titanic will cause the sub to eventually break from the repeated pressure. Doesn’t matter how many people went down there if the materials on the sub had gone done multiple times already, it will be weaker.

@@Kiefsti I never heard he "didn't want to go" just that he was nervous but wanted to go with his dad for father's day. The rubix cube thing was probably an after thought to keep his mind off the ride. Regardless, 19 is too young to go. All the other dudes had lives they got to live and his was just starting. He's the only one I genuinely feel bad for.

I've heard cadaver dogs can smell human DNA in a tree, if the cadaver was buried close and absorbed in the roots. You search and rescue teams are amazing!

Yep that’s about what these remains will be

😂there’s no finding remains mate the pressure is unreal it was inevitabe

I assume there's some residual human sludge on a recovered fragment, so much for "human remains".

@@c.w.8200 If it comes from a human, then yes, it is human remains.

They sent no one to their deaths, they saw the danger and avoided it. Their replacements saw death and walked into it with their eyes wide open.

​@@TonyBurke100the son that went didn't wanna go. He did for fathersday.

That woman is clever and right humans belong on the land, fish, sharks and other fishy creatures live there and will eat you. If you go there you should send sub type things to explore.

survivor guilt ?

​@TonyBurke100 they didn't see death.. they seen opportunity..

We must carefully select our under water expirations.

@itsKenzie the way we prevent further temptation to do that is take ship wreckage out from ocean, put in a museum even if in sections. Stop this money grab and dangerous depth dive, it’s time to eliminate the source of the problem since there shall always be folks taking that risk, but not if it’s no longer an available option.

@@maryannsinopoli1751 do you even know how much time and money we would need to get that thing out of the water do you know how big the titanic is or better yet how much it weighs why waste that much time and money on a ship wreck

@@jefflee3369 because people waste that time and money to go deep to see that shipwreck and that’s dangerous, continued hazard. Already part of ship was hauled up about 20 ton section. So it can get done again as it’s in sections now! Must Do Now!

@@jefflee3369 to save lives and to stop this unsafe adventure that fascinates some! To also save fellow human beings from exuberant costs of money for this unsafe, hazardous, endeavor which poses an extreme danger to their own life! It has now become a requirement when viewing circumstantial facts to date, a government necessity!

Cheaper & they're ignorant to his idocracy 😭🤯

@@frankiedankymemes right, just happy to be there...except now. Do you leave that off the resume?

Bro didn't know at which point it was a waste 💀

At this point, Mr. Rush is just pure waste. 😪

His mother is kind of a piece of trash for guilt tripping him to go in her place imo. Like yo if you dont wanna go on some wacky excursion ur husband the guy you chose to marry probably for money, dont force other people to. At first i thought the dad wanted the son to go, i didnt know the mother was supposed to go but essentially guilt tripped the kid into going. Shallow people imo

@@profo4544 Shallow is such a macabre yet fitting pun considering they died in the depths, but yeah shallow, rich and excessively vain looking for thrills in abnormal places.

some people think hubris is something you put on toast, and that's the problem

Titanic didn't have enough life boats, also should have had spare spyglasses on board in case the original one got locked with a key that got lost Why did they even call it unsinkable 😂 anything can break

Sod`s Law, sure enough as soon as they started calling Titanic unsinkable, it sank. They don`t usually talk in those terms about brand new ships about to make their maiden voyage, so what`s the deal here? You don`t hear much about it but there has been a big question mark over this thing for years.

The mother was apparently supposed to go originally, but for some reason gave her seat to her son as well. I read that somewhere.

She is going through so many feelings right now. Even her own fatality in retrospect. It was either going to be her or him. They originally booked in 2020 but Covid changed the plans and they had to reschedule. Their son was underage around that time, but because of the postponement he turned 18 and became eligible.

​@@lasirenas1copy paste posts are boring.

She said her husband was excited to go, not the son.

@@pain_weaver wasn’t responding to you. So, what’s the problem? Go somewhere else with your BS. I didn’t copy and paste anything……

Pretty sure they also mocked how this could mean death to- I still don’t understand why they would try to do the opposite of what you should use for subs

@@Alma_asahinathey felt invincible and like nothing could go wrong, i would bet that the CEO was very egotistical. I would guess that when you are so wealthy that you can do whatever you want you don’t put as much thought into what could go wrong, because things like that don’t happen to people like them (usually).

Because it would have cost way more

@@vickiehoude9553 Yes. And also steel and titanium are much heavier, which would have made the submersible more difficult to launch, as well make a large 5-person (tourist friendly) model almost impossible create. Solving, or seeming to solve, both the cost and weight issues made carbon fiber very attractive to Rush -- especially since he felt familiar with using unusual materials due to his experience building experimental aircraft. All he had to do was somehow convince himself that carbon fiber was just as safe -- which is, of course, half the mystery...

“Innovation” and hubris is my thought

Famous either way you look at it!

Bro took risks that were completely avoidable aaand he lost that game of chance.

​@maryannsinopoli1751 he's infamous, he's gunna be a joke that's his legacy

The son was not forced. He wanted to go, and even planned to make the Guinness book of records by solving a Rubik's cube at extreme depth. I saw video of him, and he was excited to go, and he felt proud to go after he heard scary stories about being stuck for hours.

Yeah, especially when it comes to safety. If you spend money on a project, safety should be the most focused on part of your work.

Young man risky choices, no sympathy. Cutting costs to save money 💰 and of people life in the end of lives for real life

Carbon fiber was well within the 1000 cycles to failure for alternate cyclic loading of 7500 PSI. Something else happened and the government refuses to investigate.

Nobody forced these geniuses to sign that waiver and go on board, and the families probably didn't make any efforts to dissuade them because they knew they'd inherit.

Indeed, why even include that nonsense

And so are the Tiktokers.

For reeeeal. Such nonsense

@@phillawrence5148They report what the internet and general population are saying and how they react

That essentially was just time filler

*Demonic User Name, says it ALL!!!*

Its not a cursed vessel, it's a graveyard.

The Titanic calls to the egos of mad men and drags them to their watery graves. Or at least that's the headcannon I've accepted since I'd heard it somewhere.

That area of ocean is likely just dangerous. Maybe it often has underwater vortices and extreme temp changes and currents. Maybe the titan got stuck in a downward current and they thought it was cool until they tried to come back up....

​@@solarqueen2555it's not a graveyard. It's a hunk of metal at the bottom of ocean nothing more.

@@pain_weaverthanks for being rational

He convinced himself. He thought he was smarter than everyone else.

No one convinced him, he convinced himself. Everyone else said it was a bad idea.

He did not need convincing. He only needed yes men with money and credibility. 😮

I read that it was titanium for the metal parts and carbon fibre for the pressure hull. If so, there could also be the issue of seriously mismatching behaviour under stress.

probably his lecturers at UC Berkeley

Valid point 🧐🤔

US navy subs cannot go down that deep. But the billionaire on Titan (combined wealth of $2.86bn) could have build their own titanium sub that was rate to go down to the challenger deep and use that to explore the titanic.

Just a little tiny correction - RMS Titanic, not SS

Lol it wasnt the titanic at all so many sheep believe everything they hear even when there is evidence against it

They apparently tried to ascend when something went wrong, but it was too late. This was figured out when searchers saw that the ballasts were released. Tethered to the mothership wouldn’t mean anything if they’re already in a depth where the pressure is lethal and the hull was compromised.

The lead tether would get caught on the Titanic ship itself, making that option more dangerous.

@@ShadowLinkxMasterif your vessel is cracking, after a certain depth and amount of cracks both increasing or decreasing pressure will cause implosion. Doesn’t matter if they were still descending or if they were ascending, outcome would be the same

@@Kiefstiif they were going straight down & they lost connection they would have been pulled up wayyyyy before even getting caught on the titanic that’s not actually the titanic that sinked

@@IdkFoxii ...are you under the impression that the Titan was a straight up-down mission? You're coming to this discussion unarmed and under-educated if so. The Titan was going to cruise AROUND the Titanic grave, hence a tether wouldn't work. Stockton HIMSELF said that, as have many other oceanic explorers. Do you think they can just attached it and detach it a will?🤣

Yeah it was. I had heart spiking nightmares about them being trapped and running out of air.

@@seadragon1456 Why? You don't know them. Whilst everyone can think how horrid it would be, to affect you physically when you have no personal connection to them is somewhat over the top.

Yeah that’s what it was, I think they knew they had imploded because anyone with their knowledge would know that. Even James Cameron said he knew right away, but didn’t want to be a Debbie downer

@@ChrisAndCatsit’s called empathy Chris

@@FabiolaMacabre you can be empathetic without physical symptoms. That's way over the top.

Can you elaborate more? What does this loophole achieve? surely it’s not that they can’t sue.

@@pinheadlarry2921 maybe it's not as much as a liability for Stockton Rush's (family now) if they're deemed "crew members" as opposed to "passengers." Hypothetically "crew members" know and understand the dangers of going on such a shoddy vessel.

@@pinheadlarry2921 I heard in other videos about that topic that their are better legal protections/regulations for passengers. By labeling them crew members he may got around that. But I think his legal workaround may be tested in court,.

@@pinheadlarry2921 being considered a passenger is considered heinous and a crew member a allowable risk...

​@@pinheadlarry2921there's no legal obligation.. they signed waivers that mentioned the possibility of death 8 times..

The young man's mother did an interview, she was supposed to go down but gave her son the ticket because he wanted to be the first person to solve a Rubix Cube at the Titanic. Whoever started the "didn't want to go" rumour was not accurate.

@@Kiefstithe estranged aunt started that rumor, but it’s completely false like you mentioned, he wanted to go.

@@littlepip4014 Ahh, estranged Aunt makes a lot of sense!

@@Kiefsti o

@@Kiefsti well still he was so young and didn’t deserve it

What are you saying

It's henry he's come alive!!! if you know where that line comes from yay if not oh well

His mother said that that is not true, he was excited about going. Who do you believe?

Why only the son? They were all excited to go on. It’s everyone’s fault, but you should have pity for them all.

That is so messed up to have to do that for your father Happyneis

For real y

Agreed and far too dangerous even in a Sub that is safe. The ship is a gigantic piece of machinery that is falling apart more each and every day. Imagine a large structure falling on you down there. Nope. The ship wasn't designed to last this long even without the violent end it met. It is 115 years old and so the equipment on it is ancient as it is.

For real life

Not to mention in the original novel the guy actually died as well.

People have all kinds of ambitions, creativity, it’s that 1 side of the brain hemisphere that gets that overstimulated ability. The world still needs requires minds like that!

🤣 reaching for content ... 39:00 is academically sad… is AI making videos now?

Feng Shui gotta do with everything brah

Well stated! But I feel that wreckage been down there long enough and needs to leave putting government resources to some good, so no more deaths nor temptations to visit those depths of danger!

When I visited Halifax, one of he places we had to see was the graveyard where so many of the victims are buried. Eerie, to say the least, all those rows of Graves with the same date, but humbling at the same time. Kinda hard to explain.......

Certainly, but I think the scary part is that seems it was the *only* way to control the thrusters. There was no manual/wired control on the submersible and no remote access to do so at the surface, so if bluetooth fails... They drop ballast and pray they surface.

And obvs they wouldn't take that warning to heart because they think they planned reasonably well and they think they are safe.

Wut?

wait wait wait there's banging from the titanic and titan imploded hmm seems like that is suspicious🤣🤣🤣

I would want the same for my loved ones. I don't want anyone to be sad about me. To continue living life is more of a tribute than being depressed and sad.

For most people, they seek ways to be happy, because they're not. True happiness doesn't involve outside sources.

That is so messed up and horrible

I think this point is one of the main reasons for intense interest in this case.

I think they imploded when they lost connection. I don’t think they knew that they were trapped. I could be wrong though

Because there was still a chance they were alive. Just because something is most likely doesn’t make the other possibilities impossible.

@@pinheadlarry2921that was an unlikely outcome and the people who held out hope were mostly uneducated about the specifics of the field

Not necessarily the game controllers. The military uses Xbox 360 controllers for certain missions and vehicles. But they use the controllers with wires. The titan sub was wireless which is the red flag.

@@e_sanchez0 ah cool. Thanks

@@quinnhouk5369 no problem.

Nah they had me at carbon fiber. I still can't stop laughing about that

"Only opened from the outside." That sentence alone is terrifying!!!!!!!! 😱😱😱😱

the problem with the game controller is that it was wireless.

@@omgwtfhaxfan1221003exactly , in salt water.

@@omgwtfhaxfan1221003 in one of the earlier dives the controller was installed backward, thu causing the titan to go around in circles on the ocean floor😦😣😦😮😲😫😬😩😩😮‍💨

@@crm208 Wait... what? Could you please elaborate or cite a source regarding the "backwards installation"?(While refraining from using emoticons in abundance.) Thanks in advance.

I feel bad for all of them except Stockton. He knew about the issues but thought he knew better and put people at risk because he needed their money.

I agree. That site is also a graveyard. Only fools dare to mess with graveyards. 🤪

What a load of cods wallop, whole empires have been built on the unjust acquisition of material wealth taken in ways much more despicable than the pilfering of tableware from a shipwreck site. Museum's are full of grave goods, do you get the heebeegeebees when going there too ? Watching to much Netflix I think.

Your reading of the situation is needlessly negative. Apparently the CEO's wife is a descendant of survivers from the Titanic, so their passion and interest is understandable. They very much respected the site, the ship and her history.

@@yikes7607oh he was respectful alright, by being a sacrifice and taking other victims as unnecessary sacrifices to the Titanic with him.

@@yamicivetta5252 what a small person you are. You stay safe, safe and small.

"Surely sub-consciously, he knew, he was history !” What does that even mean?

He was a rich and arrogant pos that was never told "no".

Sadly he took 4 souls with him.😢

Don’t forget to invite a Feng Shui specialist, according to the author of this video, if Stockton consulted one, they would all be alive rn. 😊 congratulations on getting a house, I can only dream of that

@bela650 I agree exactly with your statement. It is a pure pity such hatred exist in humankind! Let them try to succeed without any default in building a submersible. See change of tune when see total costs involved and will shop Camperworld also!

I understand but like. They were all rich white men like… the memes are funny sooo

@@chinchillaexists Just because they were rich white men it justifies people laughing at their deaths 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@Gothamscrusader but the memes be funny

@--Sofia-- 🤦‍♀️

They did know, the US reportedly heard something but they didn’t have the funds or something to look. It happened fast so there was really nothing anyone could do

Plus it wasn’t water they had it was air, they thought there was 4 days worth of air to survive

@@ayelmqo right, but no one ever mentioned that they didn't have enough water. Even if they had four days of air, they didn't have four days of water. They would likely have died of dehydration before running out of air. The cruelest irony.

Water suppy isn't the problem. Air is. They had a 96 hour supply of air. And the Navy knew instantly they were all dead immediately. Simple physics.

@@RichardBrock-fv1nq yeah, everyone knew they were dead. As for the 96 hours of air, yeah, that definitely puts a clock, of the egg timer variety, on their lifespan, BUT, as far as i know you cannot go 96 hours without water.

Trust nothing yet as factual!

The brakes failed on the boat!

​@@maryannsinopoli1751 Data indicates.. DATA.. FACTS..

Trust nothing

If that was the case how would he not know that the glass would b pushed in? They made it to 3000 meters and came back up but in the video it says 4000 meters 27:14

@@IdkFoxii The viewport blew in far too quickly for anyone to react to it.

It might be worthwhile to set up a pressure test rig to determine the failure behavior of such a window under extreme pressure, with an air bubble in the test chamber to at least try to mimic the behavior of a nearly-infinite ocean of water as distinct from the behavior of a smaller test vessel whose pressure is being slowly increased via pump. If the window starts to yield in the latter kind of chamber, its deformation may cause the pressure in the chamber to drop, reducing the rate of deterioration, while the pressure of the ocean would remain high.

If you believe the final communication log, they jettisoned the landing frame prior to catastrophic failure.