The Right Starvation 

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Very helpful… Thankyou 😊

Thank you Venerable Sirs. This was an incredibly well timed discussion for me on terms of helping to provide a framework for bolstering the right view behind the renunciation of attachment to views and opinions, along with the roots of attachment itself. 🙏🏻🙇‍♂️

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This is very profound. I will have to listen to it again to understand it more fully... this teaching is very important because we often think we are practicing well when we are actually doing it without right understanding. Much gratitude for expanding my understanding of the true Dhamma. Sadhu sadhu sadhu! 🙏🙏🙏

AN 3.83 Vajjiputta Sutta: The Vajjian Monk On one occasion the Blessed One was living in Vesālī, in the Great Wood. Then a certain Vajjian monk approached him and, on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to the Blessed One, "Lord, this recitation of more than 150 training rules comes every fortnight. [1] I cannot train in reference to them." "Monk, can you train in reference to the three trainings: the training in heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in heightened discernment?" [2] "Yes, lord, I can train in reference to the three trainings: the training in heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in heightened discernment." "Then train in reference to those three trainings: the training in heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in heightened discernment. As you train in heightened virtue, heightened mind, & heightened discernment, your passion, aversion, & delusion - when trained in heightened virtue, heightened mind, & heightened discernment - will be abandoned. You - with the abandoning of passion, the abandoning of aversion, the abandoning of delusion - will not do anything unskillful or engage in any evil." Later on, that monk trained in reference to heightened virtue, heightened mind, & heightened discernment. His passion, aversion, & delusion - when trained in heightened virtue, heightened mind, & heightened discernment were abandoned. He - with the abandoning of passion, the abandoning of aversion, the abandoning of delusion - did not do anything unskillful or engage in any evil. Notes: 1.This statement refers to the Pāṭimokkha recitation, which contains 227 rules. Some have argued that this statement is proof that the Pāṭimokkha currently contains some rules that it did not contain in the Buddha's time. However, this assertion ignores two points: (a) The sutta texts are notoriously vague about large numbers, and - given their manner in reporting large numbers - "more than 150" could cover anything from 150 to 250 rules. (b) The Buddha added rules to the Pāṭimokkha over the course of many years. This sutta may have taken place earlier in his life before the Pāṭimokkha had reached its current size.2.For definitions of these trainings, see AN 3.88. See also: AN 3.85, AN 3.86. (Source: access to insight)

Excellent discussion 👍. Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu 🙏.

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Sallekha sutta: suttacentral.net/mn8

Suppose i have a craving that is bad ( for you no craving is good but for the general folk some cravings are still considered good but this craving that i have is not good even for general folk , then ) should i not feel bad about it ? Also how do i get out of it . My self discipline is extremely low and my willpower is unstable . I cant follow a habit for more than 7 days after that i just become loosely attached and have lost sight of it , sometimes even if i have not lost the sight it , that sight becomes useless Or just too hard to be within my grasp . I feel defeated and waste a lot of time distracting my self from that failed journey until i see another result (bad result) of that craving and my willpower to defeat it surges again.it has become a kind of cycle at this point .i read an article in the internet and he said that thinking of discipline in terms of willpower is not gonna help but thinking of discipline along with acceptance and taking the responsibility is going to ? I dont understand his meaning , i dont eant you to decipher it for me i just wan to know what are your views on this topic and how you and the other monks maintain such a life of discipline , is it that your willpower is unwavering or that you never loose sight or that it's just that your environment prevent you from loosing sight ? Or is it some sort of permanent understanding about life ? I dont really know what a permanent understanding is but i guess it keeps on giving you willpower ?

Is this correct? “The first step is watch intentions and restrain any body, speech, or mental action based on ill will. But there remains the intention of ill will, which is unpleasant. To overcome ill will one must not crave to get rid of the unpleasant feeling of ill will. So the key to eliminating ill will is to uproot the resistance to the unpleasant felling of ill will (or sensual desire or boredom).” So do I just notice the unpleasant feeling and let it be? Trying to understand the particulars beginning at 19:20.

Wouldn't creating a habit of replacing an unskillful behavior with a skillful one, over time, root out the underlying cause?

Is it possible that your motivation for uprooting “Ill-will” in your example is something other than craving to be rid of the discomfort behind it’s presence in you? Put another way, is it possible that there is no discomfort resulting from its presence in you? Moreover, is it possible the motivation (or discomfort) originates from your desire for progress in your attainment of liberation from craving?

35:00 virtue and wrong views....

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