The Rise and Fall of Igor Mazurenko and PAL 

I'd like to see some more stuff on federations. Great videos

this was really interesting! I think you did a great job👍

It means a lot to me, 44%stronger! I'm happy you're enjoying what I put out there and I appreciate your generosity.

20 years of Zloty Turs, other tournaments under the PAL banner, Vendetta supermatches, and what I would describe as the pinnacle of what he did, the Top 8 which truly represented the highest level of armwrestling as a supermatch format. The athletes had 3 fixed dates for the Top 8 in Malaysia, China, Poland with 3~ months between each stage which allowed them to truly prepare to the best of their ability. I loved to watch it and also for the content that was produced around it.

@@TimmyTurner421 Personally I always believed Top 8 to be the dumbest idea of all. Having a limited roster of 8 athletes is stupid. Having random drafts among those 8 athletes is beyond stupid. Half of the matches happening there had no sense at all. If that's the pinnacle then I struggle to fathom what would you call EvW, KoTT, WAL or old Arm Wars which all had way better matchups and eventful fights. I'm so happy Top 8 died this fast. It would've died naturally anyway but luckily it did not impede AW for much longer by having athletes on a leash and effectively preventing better matches from happening.

@@datbunneh3671 Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man. It really doesn't matter what you think, the reality was that Top 8 had the best armwrestlers on the planet at that time all facing each other. I don't give a damn if the matches entertained you or not. You realize that armwrestling is also a sport, and not exlusively entertainment? I wanted to see who is the #1 armwrestler on the planet and the Top 8 ultimately determined that this human being is Levan Saginashvili. "If that's the pinnacle then I struggle to fathom what would you call EvW, KoTT, WAL" What a silly comment. I said Top 8 was the pinnacle of what he did. I didn't say the Top 8 is the pinnacle of all time. Perhaps you lack reading comprehension? I would suggest you to read my comment again. Btw, KOTT and EvW didn't even exist back then. Completely irrelevant to the comment I made. You must be new to armwrestling. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got better things to do than educating random people on the internet.

@@TimmyTurner421 Wow. Nice to have *the best* (arguably) arm wrestlers on the planet facing each other... but forget to mention they were all from at least three separate weight classes. Yes, right. Just 8 athletes from different weight classes. Glorious. Did somebody just mention AW being a sport and trying to *educate* people? Of course you could argue that it's "open" class yada-yada. But yeah, let's put Prokopchuk against Levan then. The guy is also the best, right? That match makes total sense, ain't it? And even in terms of what Mazurenko did a regular Vendetta was the apex of his creation and not Top 8. Because it had cherry picked matches that people actually wanted to see and not some retarded random draft among a fixed roster. And don't forget, your opinion is also just an opinion Mr. Teacher Educator sir.

You both should talk less and do more Armwrestling 😀

Thank you! It's no Arm Wars but I'm glad you approve.

I'm glad you enjoy it. I've got a bunch more of the same kind on different athletes, in case you're interested.

@@armhistorian sign me in! You are going places with such quality content

@@xxminecraftpvpproxx2408 Appreciate you

Thanks Eric! I agree. The AW landscape would look very differently.

Thanks, Limo-swine. I'm happy that even the veterans get something from my videos.

What a badass comment! 💪💪

agreed

He will never comeback... for the best

You're very welcome!

Thanks as always, MB! And you're very welcome. This episode was a lot of fun to make, as I decided to try a couple of more out there things. FAP is such an unfortunate name

Thanks, Don Paul!

Same

Cool! I am an arm in a suit and I love armwrestling.

@@armhistorian stay strong

"Big guy". Look who's talking! I'm happy you enjoyed it, tallpaul. Thanks for your continued support!

@@armhistorian lol your welcome man 🤘

That's what I aim for! Thanks for saying so.

Glad you like it, Martino!

Thank you!!

Amazing comment

Might as well be an arm in a suit, right?

I'm glad you like it, Troy! Hope it doesn't mess with the retention too much. People who are not familiar with my channel yet, might find it confusing.

You're welcome!

Good call!

@@armhistorian Thank you, I see his straps and cable attachments everywhere

Yes indeed, well said! Let's all hope history does not repeat itself.

Yes indeed. I said pretty much the same at the end of the video.

Thank you for the invaluable insight!

@@armhistorian thanks for your contribution to arm community. Keep growing bigger and stronger💪

They did seem a little dubious.

Wtf are you smoking buddy? Devon never blamed Igor (or anyone else) for losing to Genadi.

Igor was more interesting. Showing how the athletes train and how they pulled record weights.

Absolute nonsense. He lost money on many events or barely broke even yet he continued for his passion of armwrestling. What's greedy about that? Clearly you know nothing about the man and the heavy lifting he did 20 years for the sport of armwrestling in order to get it to a higher level ..

@@TimmyTurner421 lol

​@@TimmyTurner421 exactly

@@KootBear Yup! Some armwrestling fans are so bitter and close minded. Yes, Igor Mazurenko blocked potential Michael Todd vs Levan Saginashvili and Devon Larratt vs Levan Saginashvili matches back then. I didn't like that either. However, it's insane to reduce Mazurenko to those mistakes and completely neglect the tremendous work in the armwrestling world he did for 20 years. If there is a list with 20 pros and 2 cons why reduce a person to those two cons? Makes no sense to me.

Give Engin time my friend. Up to now he is doing amazing!

I appreciate both of them and also Neil Pickup

A fair observation, one I happen to share with you.