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The Rise of Mexican Drug Cartels (with Ioan Grillo) - Change Agents with Andy Stumpf 

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On the edition of the Narco Wars series, Andy Stumpf sits down with investigative journalist Ioan Grillo.
Based in Mexico City, he has been covering drug cartels since 2001 for news outlets such as the New York Times, France 24, National Geographic, Time Magazine, Esquire, CNN, Reuters, The Associated Press, and many others.
Ioan is the author of three books: Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels, Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New Politics in Latin America, and El Narco: Inside Mexico’s Criminal Insurgency. He also helped produce the television series and documentaries Blood on the Wall, Barrios Beats and Blood, and Inside Narco Wars.
You can find more of his work on his Substack, CrashOutMedia, and on the CrimeWar podcast.
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@ianwatson2945
@ianwatson2945 4 месяца назад
This podcast and everything Ioan does should have way more views, the guy's a wealth of crazy information
@staforiii
@staforiii 4 месяца назад
Most people turn a blind eye until it’s on their doorstep
@shadownaught
@shadownaught 4 месяца назад
One thing many aren’t asking or thinking through is, “how are precursors made?”. Just like synthetic pharmaceuticals, fine synthetic compounds are made from chemicals generated from petroleum fractions. Petroleum contains such an amazing soup of molecules that can be broken and recombined in an almost infinite number of ways, and that capability is where modern medicine…and unfortunately that includes synthetic opiates, comes from. In an intelligence aspect, it would be valuable to identify and observe where a country makes platform chemicals, how much are produced and where they go, and what facilities receive them.
@ethanchurch4661
@ethanchurch4661 6 месяцев назад
Love Ioan cause he gives it like it is. Doesn’t try to sensationalize it or push one side of things. He has a great interview with Shawn Ryan too. Traveling to Sinaloa regularly he definitely understands the local sentiment.
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
I respect the guy alot he doesn't bring any political agenda to it. Just reports what he sees on the ground. Especially if he's there in Mexico
@redhead8777
@redhead8777 3 месяца назад
What he says about cartels operation IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA - IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME. Vote red & white top to bottom. That's how citizens can help...
@passionatepatriot7272
@passionatepatriot7272 6 месяцев назад
Great episode!! Love these typa interviews
@bizzylizzy5075
@bizzylizzy5075 6 месяцев назад
Great to see you more often now days Ioan , fantastic insight , your delivery & knowledge is fascinating thank you 🙏
@MoKnows89
@MoKnows89 4 месяца назад
Great interview full of extremely important info…. Also, that’s the Punisher.
@tacticooldude7509
@tacticooldude7509 6 месяцев назад
@36:45 Yeah i saw the switch, it also then i saw alot more of the stuff with the horse tranquilizer in it too.
@RahimLadhajuma
@RahimLadhajuma 6 месяцев назад
One of the most knowledgeable individuals! Ioan Grillo, Andy Stumph and IRONCLAD, what more could you ask for? Always great knowledge and content being dropped on the channel! You'll always have my support! Cheers IRONCLAD! 🧠🎥🎙️✌🏼
@Superunbothered
@Superunbothered 2 месяца назад
The ads keep getting interrupted by the interview
@Ghostsiouxtech
@Ghostsiouxtech 6 месяцев назад
His book El Narco is legit.
@Horsed_Beef
@Horsed_Beef 6 месяцев назад
I'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation.
@Glory_inthe_3rd77
@Glory_inthe_3rd77 4 месяца назад
What's the purpose of doing the black and white?
@thisisironclad
@thisisironclad 6 месяцев назад
Watch The Real Story of DEVGRU and ARMY SPECIAL MISSIONS UNIT Veteran Kevin Holland - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aiV4ijN7tus.htmlsi=cRLUO0HDSVTqCKwy
@silverlacedwyandotte6437
@silverlacedwyandotte6437 4 месяца назад
Ioan Grillo is the man. Him and Luis shapparoooooooooo🎉🎉🎉
@corywatterson7560
@corywatterson7560 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, lets talk about fast and furious. You think it stopped?
@rblueroan2205
@rblueroan2205 6 месяцев назад
There was sometime back some photos of firearms taken from cartel terrorists , the Ak’s had what appeared to be the three position safety , no import marks , the M203 they showed , also had the three position , and you could see the serial num , an acquaintance of mine could at that time run serial numbers , that weapon came from a lot sold to the Mexican army ,there were also photos of cartel members carrying M-16’s the muzzle break was the old bottle opener style , that was changed after Vietnam , I wonder which arms dealer sold that to the cartels . It’s only a matter of time that the equipment the US left behind in Iraq and Afghanistan when the bail out occurred will start showing up on this side of the pond
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
​@@rblueroan2205their was a video of a gulf cartel soldier with an AT4.
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
​@@rblueroan2205it's a mix of everything. Corrupt Mexican military elements. And corrupt central American militaries like Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. Remember the united states gave arms to central American countries during their civil war and insurgency years.
@rblueroan2205
@rblueroan2205 6 месяцев назад
Those man pans were just starting into inventory when I et’d , the LAW was still common , @@jonathanramos8414
@talboyovGY
@talboyovGY 5 месяцев назад
No, the cia are complicit in all the things America is allegedly fighting. The reality of life today is the world would go bankrupt without drugs and organised crime. The billions laundered by OCG's during the credit crunch is the only thing that saved us from our nation states going bankrupt, that's a proven fact!
@COBBADAMS
@COBBADAMS 6 месяцев назад
1sr baby!!! Hope you guys got the coin set?
@WilliamStronghold
@WilliamStronghold 6 месяцев назад
I pray for the day when Americans fill town hall & city council meetings discussing these topics, the same way sports stadiums and arenas are filled on the weekends.
@apollow_g1025
@apollow_g1025 6 месяцев назад
Oh yea all those black single moms in Chicago just need to participate in local government and join the PTA hahahaha bro I’ll pay you $100 to come on my podcast and say stupid shit like that
@WilliamStronghold
@WilliamStronghold 6 месяцев назад
@@apollow_g1025 Keep your cash, I’ll do it for free. I’m always down for an intelligent conversation. Drop your podcast info in the comment below & I’ll contact you by then end of the day.
@internet_internet
@internet_internet 6 месяцев назад
@@apollow_g1025¿
@rp1645
@rp1645 4 месяца назад
I think you hit the NAIL on the head. 😊 You watch in so many cities in the US now, with the average citizens screaming about the housing and mass migration of people ( and most are the ones who will work HARD jobs) not all are criminals. YES there are big out crying at public meetings. To what aval, no one else cares. I look at TV shows Like ( Breaking bad) it made ( METH) a pop culture thing. Look everyone a teacher who had cancer just started making METH because he knew how. Add TV drama into the plot line and you make him a HERO. I truly never understood that about glorifying making METH. I feel sorry for the user that pumps in FENTANYL to his system and dies. But who are the biggest consumers of Mexico DRUGS. It is the US we are the users. No one is stopping me from DRINKING ( wild turkey) but that is legal you say, still doesn't stop the Deaths from Legal hard high proof boz. Will it take till the Deaths from Fentanyl, where dealers have NO user anymore to STOP this. Americans need a hard look in the mirror to see where their real problems lay
@DonaldStaggs
@DonaldStaggs 3 месяца назад
Will never happen.
@JM-vf8tk
@JM-vf8tk 3 месяца назад
The drug trade is the foundation of the financial system. It’s the number one contributor to GDP. You stop it and the entire system collapses. A good healthy family foundation and education is the only way to prevent this.
@Mr-American556
@Mr-American556 2 месяца назад
As a first responder myself, last week alone we had 17 overdoes, 6 were fatal, to which one of them was an 11 year old female. Fentanyl came into play around 2015 it’s very deadly if you don’t have a tolerance
@MongooseTacticool
@MongooseTacticool 4 месяца назад
When you take away people's hope and meaning in life: jobs, families, friends; they turn to drugs to ease the pain.
@easntx
@easntx 3 месяца назад
They been stealing oil straight out the tank near carrizo springs, first load they got from us was '12, every Dorado driver has a horror story too
@maryannramirez9339
@maryannramirez9339 4 месяца назад
I had a hard time finding this episode. Spotify shows an update as of yesterday, but only shows the Wuhan episode as the most recent.
@arsevela33
@arsevela33 2 месяца назад
We need to address the demand problem. If it continues to exist there will continue to be suppliers. We don’t just need war. We need real solutions.
@stanleymaestas5441
@stanleymaestas5441 6 месяцев назад
IRONCLAD 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 fantastic content 👏 👏 👏
@ElBennyDeCali
@ElBennyDeCali 3 месяца назад
Is that Jon Bernthal being interviewed? Looks just like him with a different accent 😁
@jonathanray83
@jonathanray83 6 месяцев назад
Rock of The Marne
@patricknoveski6409
@patricknoveski6409 3 месяца назад
CHANGEAGENTS is making a difference in this American, & so to many more I hope. Real Humans telling what the score is in the USA. Listen to them for an answer. Peace ✌️
@me-cq7wv
@me-cq7wv 6 месяцев назад
Exit by the gift shop. Another one
@theresekirkpatrick3337
@theresekirkpatrick3337 2 месяца назад
It’s been four decades, we’ve been fighting the war on drugs. We are clearly losing what a tragic dumpster fire.
@chickenfishhybrid44
@chickenfishhybrid44 4 месяца назад
AR15 is a very popular predator hunting platform. Id think you would know that. In some states its also legal to hunt deer with .223. Obviously ARs come in other calibers that are legal to hunt deer with in a 50 states.
@jimmy3363
@jimmy3363 4 месяца назад
@ 30:58 "Meth is a fan favourite up here too!!" 😂😂😂 fuckin banger! 🤣
@RogerSmith-lc9lo
@RogerSmith-lc9lo 3 месяца назад
Fast and furious is just one of many…..
@The_Red_Off_Road
@The_Red_Off_Road 6 месяцев назад
Great interview. But, I stopped watching at the gerber life ad. I don’t mind ad reads in the beginning but I can’t do the ad reads in the middle of the conversation. Too much of a corporate commercial feel.
@user-dy5ue2tb6u
@user-dy5ue2tb6u 6 месяцев назад
"Shadow Boxer's Quantum Precision retains Atomic Integrity while compounding Butterfly Effect within a Cosmic Nexus" 2012, land of the Piaute beside the ancient lake directly beneath the axis of the eclipse at a distance of 1 meter the Shadow Boxer is exactly 3 nanoseconds ahead of the shadow. By defeating darkness the shadow boxer engages the stars in a universal battle of natural selection for celestial light decreasing load and growing time. The Shadow Boxer's Quantum Precision leaves the present undisturbed, while infinitely gains influence on the future by compounding the butterfly effect.
@Californiansurfer
@Californiansurfer 6 месяцев назад
❤United states Gun industry best customer the cartels.
@JP-bx1qm
@JP-bx1qm 6 месяцев назад
😎
@brunodanner7777
@brunodanner7777 4 месяца назад
I've watched and read all the podcasts and research: if the US federal Govt. does not put border control as a #1 priority..then nothing will change.
@Tleaves7
@Tleaves7 6 месяцев назад
It's not helping that drugs and their use are glorified in the media, movies, music industries etc. Every rapper now looks like a dirty meth head that's never had a bath, nor do they even have any real talent. They're helping to lead the next generation into that life by normalising it and as stated glorifying it! The drug problem needs to be dealt with from a lot of different angles. Sadly America I have absolutely no faith in your incompetent politicians to do it. Their track record has proven the past 20 years they destroy everything they touch!
@Bj-en1qx
@Bj-en1qx 4 месяца назад
Im disappointed watching another video of people unwilling to admit yo the reality of the situation. To stop drug crime, u have to remove the incentives and motivation. That means, eliminating poverty, inequality, lack of opportunities, and risk/reward ratio. In other words, ALL of society, from people, law, and government, need to take responsibility and have a personal stake in making sure that there are jobs for everyone, that those jobs pay a living wage, and that the potential reward for pursuing illegal activities does not outweigh the reward for a regular job. This will undoubtedly mean addressing demand for drugs, which means again addressing the social conditions of inequality and poverty. Honestly, i dont think Americans are enlightened enough to even want this problem solved. People like the idea that they are better in some ways to others and believe they deserve a better life, a better job, more money, better opportunities, etc. Americans want or need to be able to point at homeless people or addicts and say those people are whats wrong witj life, because they would otherwise have to face the reality of either taking personal accountability, or demanding accountability of those who have enough power and influence to not be held accountable for contributing to societies problems that cause poverty, inequality, and related issues like drugs and crime. The only solution is to adress the root cause. Or we could legalize drugs, but thats simply another solution that Americans couldnt even imagine. There's far to many people that are unwilling to even dream about considering a solution that involves sacrificing their virtues for the sake of reason or the greater good. So thats where we are right now..... Hourd long discussions about problems where we are unwilling to even mention realistic solutions because we cannot imagine changing our own lifestyles, behavior, or values regardless of the potential outcomes.
@glennmickelson8239
@glennmickelson8239 6 месяцев назад
Why do we think the drug war would work when the prohibition didn’t? Making it illegal makes for a great revenue source for criminals. I don’t like the idea of making it legal but if we legalize it, provide some safer choices for drug users, and get some tax revenue to provide resources to help people would it be better? Regarding china, having us all messed up with drugs gives them a way to undermine our society without firing a shot.
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 6 месяцев назад
What surprises me is that such fact is in the open yet it is ignored again and again. I guess people are too afraid of the looks of legalizing hard drugs more than the disaster prohibition is.
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
​@@jonatand2045I'm afraid even legalizing the hard stuff wouldn't eradicate the cartels. They will just move on to other illicit activities
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 6 месяцев назад
@@jonathanramos8414 Nothing is as profitable as drugs. Money is what gets them guns, manpower and corrupt officials. They would cause trouble for a while, but things get easier with legalization.
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
@@jonatand2045 I'm afraid they would go back to extortion. And cartels have been known to extort business in Mexico. Making the local people suffer even more. It's why you saw the rise of the self defense community groups. But even They were co opted
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
@@jonatand2045 they have been extorting the avocado farmers in michoacan for years now
@williamdunkerley8781
@williamdunkerley8781 4 месяца назад
Your ads are so annoying. Make them better please makes me wanna not listen to your podcast
@nicholettematelyan1596
@nicholettematelyan1596 4 месяца назад
I grew up and knew all this. Just growing up in LA. And I’m 51. Our own CIA helped with the drug flow and help funded them. Come on. And I don’t talk or know anyone. 😂
@AncientRylanor69
@AncientRylanor69 4 месяца назад
u
@eamonlucic447
@eamonlucic447 6 месяцев назад
His name is pronounced "E-AN"...not "E-O-ANA" or whatever the fuck it was you were calling him in your intro lol🤭😑
@user-su7tx1zb3v
@user-su7tx1zb3v 4 месяца назад
Lmfao British people are really something else Where did he get his Geopolitics degree??? The university of samoa lmfaoooo
@mr.e7379
@mr.e7379 4 месяца назад
I'd like to follow you but you are WAAY too greedy with the ads. I just can't support your model. You're worse than TV.. I hope you change. Will check back next month if I haven't found a more competitive offering in the meantime. Goodluck with your business.
@yourmomsnewboyfriend4501
@yourmomsnewboyfriend4501 6 месяцев назад
As American, I am so glad that we decided to flee Europe and make our own country so that we don’t sound like this guy. It sounds like he’s having a hard time just getting the words out.
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
He has a very mixed accent because of his time in Mexico.
@elim6366
@elim6366 4 месяца назад
You Americans will be speaking Chinese before you know it 😂
@brianvasquez4484
@brianvasquez4484 4 месяца назад
The war on drugs started with Nixon and has cost more lives than all of our wars combined. It is unquestionably a catastrophic failure. You cannot punish away drug use. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is not insanity it is stupidity.
@Horsed_Beef
@Horsed_Beef 6 месяцев назад
El Salvador is a glorious country under their current leadership. I want America to be just like it.
@jonathanramos8414
@jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад
Ahh El Salvador remember it was Ronald Reagan's Ukraine
@Horsed_Beef
@Horsed_Beef 6 месяцев назад
55:08 PAY ATTENTION CLASS. Stop shrivelling up anytime says "authoritarian" and just look at the results. I'm fully supportive of all "hard-line" tactics to send a message, and you should be too. Support it openly, convince your family and friends, write your representatives and get loud.
@rybaneightsix5085
@rybaneightsix5085 4 месяца назад
So the ends justify the means. And you don't believe in natural rights or individual liberty.
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