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In the Final years of the First Age, the forces of the Valar finally came to aid the Free People of Middle-Earth in their war against Morgoth, and they were joined by a faction of Men known as the Edain. As a reward for their help, the Edain were given many gifts including a special home which they would call Numenor, and the Numenoreans would become the greatest faction of Men, being the longest lived, the most technologically advanced and having the greatest armada that was ever seen in the history of Middle-Earth. In today's episode we'll be discussing the rise of Numenor from the days of their first king called Elros the Half Elven, to their 11th ruler called Minatir, who led the Numenoreans in their war against Sauron.
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@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Hey guys, I'm sorry for delaying this video, but it took me ages to research and prepare, and it's also my longest video yet. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic! Do you think it was possible for Numenor to sustain their glory without eventually growing corrupted? And do you think that we'll get to see these events in the upcoming Lord of the Rings Amazon series? As always subtitles are available and feedback is welcome. I'd also like to thank one of my fellow Lord of the Rings creators called The Red Book for he was kind enough to give me some feedback on some of my research for this topic. If you'd like to check his channel out, I've left a link to it in the video description!

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

hey man unfortunately it was impossible for me to balance narration and studies since it was by far the biggest bottleneck in the video production in terms of time, though I think the current narrator is doing an excellent job and deserves a lot of credit (after all it's only thanks to his contributions that I'm able to still publish freqently). I do plan to still have my voice on this channel, though it's probably going to be in form of live content (which I should have much more of in the coming future)

@shanenolan8252 3 года назад

No apologies necessary. Good things come to those who wait

@Crafty_Spirit 3 года назад

The Red Book like you is someone who does a lot of thinking... and comes out with thought-provoking and illuminating statements. It's no coincidence you two host my favourite lore channels (add Tolkien Untangled for a top three). Thanks for another nicely written and beautifully illustrated video 🖖🏼

@lowlandnobleman6746 3 года назад

Over twenty minutes of lore is a good thing, in spite of any other deficiency or delay.

@TheRedBook 3 года назад

Top stuff! Was worth waiting to see, and as others have said - delays don't matter when the quality is worth waiting for ;) Thanks for the link to my channel as well and I'm sure we will have plenty more to chat about over on Discord!

@keyboarddancers7751 3 года назад

I'm a Tolkien addict of several decades now so I know his tales extremely well. I can't think how many different summaries and analyses of Tolkien's work that I've listened to on YT. What amazes me is how well each new player in this wonderful game conveys their own rendition with such engaging originality of style. I was totally captivated with this retelling and I really look forward to the next episode.

@dmitritelvanni4068 2 года назад

I was 12 when i filled a notebook with notes on the silmarillion and unfinnished tales. Once youre hooked it becomes something within you that always feels like home.

@ExodusM30 2 года назад

I feel the same I love the different renditions & visual styles & the endless amount of great content that grows everyday

@draoidh6479 3 года назад

Edain: *Win war against Sauron and take him as a prisoner* Edain when arriving at Númenór: Why do I hear boss music?

@_semih_ 3 года назад

"Guards were set at the haven of Moriondë in the east of the land, where the rocks are dark, watching at the king’s command without ceasing for the ships’ return. It was night, but there was a bright Moon. They descried ships far off, and they seemed to be sailing west at a speed greater than the storm, though there was little wind. Suddeniy the sea became unquiet; it rose until it became like a mountain, and it rolled upon the land. The ships were lifted up, and cast far inland, and lay in the fields. Upon that ship which was cast highest and stood dry upon a hill there was a man, or one in man’s shape, but greater than any even of the race of Númenor in stature. ‘He stood upon the rock and said: ‘This is done as a sign of power. For I am Sauron the mighty, servant of the Strong” (wherein he spoke darkly). “I have come. Be glad, men of Númenor, for I will take thy king to be my king, and the world shall be given into his hand.” And it seemed to men that Sauron was great; though they feared the light of his eyes. To many he appeared fair, to others terrible; but to some evil. [J.R.R Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien, The Lost Road and Other Writings, p.73-74] I like this verse. Sauron is literally toying with the 'mighty' Numenoreans lol

@draoidh6479 3 года назад

@@_semih_ Translation into millenialang: "Gather up bottoms, yall dealing with the HBIC now".

@_semih_ 3 года назад

@@draoidh6479 lol

@erikavalentina4940 3 года назад

To know that all the middle earth story came from one person’s mind is mindblowing. All the details almost made me believe this is a documentary, not only a lore

@WillOfFiree 3 года назад

There is no life in the void, only death

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

We'll have none of your propoganda here Sauron! >:(

@MFobe 2 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT 🤣😂😂

@meduseldtales3383 3 года назад

Both Tale of Years in LotR and Unfinished Tales specifically say that Tar-Minastir was the king who sent the fleet to help Gil-Galad in 1700, even though the Heirs of Elros in UT says that Tar-Telperien ruled until 1731. It will be interesting to see how the Amazon series will explain this discrepancy. My guess is that there will be a political strife between isolationists and interventionists in Numenor that will lead to Tar-Telperien temporarily abdicating the throne.

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Yeah that actually confused me while I was preparing the research for this video, so I went with the more canonical source :)

@Fearsome_Gonad 3 года назад

St Georgius Floydius will solve the issue.

@mann536 3 года назад

@@Fearsome_Gonad lmao tolkien will be sad

@wildfire9280 2 года назад

@@Fearsome_Gonad You guys really are something special.

@GirlNextGondor 3 года назад

I enjoyed this one! Really thorough and beautifully done!

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Thank you! :D It was probably my most difficult topic to research so far since the info is spread out across so many books and passages, though I'm really happy with the way it turned out.

@_alex_dts1909 3 года назад

This video made feel very comfortable that i didn't want to end cause i wanted more about Numenor's lore, i hope Amazon doesn't mess up.

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

Hope is all we have.

@sadek__4952 3 года назад

"the numenoreans would come unarmed leaving behind their axes and bows" *Shows a numenorean with a big axe* xD

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Shhhhhhh, I hoped nobody would notice 😂

@grandmasteryoda5241 3 года назад

Yeah and there was also a Numenorian man with a sword but it wasn't drawn

@NastyCupid 3 года назад

You wouldn't part a Numenorean from his walking axe, would you?

@mrdavman13 2 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT it’s just for wood cutting, obviously cant go without a fire can you?

@wildfire9280 2 года назад

@@mrdavman13 “wood cutting” Gwaithurum: >:0

@iapetus915 3 года назад

Elros' mother was Elwing, not Idril. Idril was his grandmother.

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

True my mistake there!

@winrobee 3 года назад

The best video yet I've seen for preparation for what the Amazon series will evidently be. I hope Amazon's team has informed themselves so well.

@alessandroturci6750 3 года назад

I may be alone in this, but I feel a great deal of empathy towards the Numenorians even when they attacked the Valar. Manwe, how can you impose a ban without coming off as a tyrant? Treating humans as children that need to be protected from themselves is almost insulting. There's something exciting about humans marching in revolt against their gods, while in fact they were subjugated by an evil god themselves.

@fritzvoncranach6268 3 года назад

Can‘t decide which of the GeekZone voices I love the most. Thanks for your work either way!

@o_LL_o 3 года назад

Better to have the promise of a greater, immortal place to believe in than to know the world the immortal elves would live in forever. Makes Arda seem like a prison for the elves, why would mankind want it since the creator didn't even live there and had made another place for you? It really means mankind had little faith; but if you know for a fact that immortals exist and they don't claim to have made the world, than the one that does can be banked on.

@herleifr9708 3 года назад

Thank you SO much for making these videos! Not only are they informative in the lore, but the presentation is really good too! Going to have to watch this again, so much to take in.

@prabhjot1986able 3 года назад

Recently read about Aldarion and Erendis' tale in The Unfinished Tales. The history of Numenor happens to be one of the best parts of the legendarium of Middle Earth.

@jeffloy4638 3 года назад

What an excellent video! I learned a few things, and that’s rare given my years-long Tolkien obsession, haha! In particular, I had no idea the Wild Men of Dunland had been driven there by conflict with the Numenorians or that the Mallorns of Lorien came from Numenor. Bravo!!!

@tonyhinrichs1869 3 года назад

Once again I LOVE this channel I have to watch the videos two or three times and can’t wait for the new series there is so much to learn about in Tolkien’s world and it just goes on forever I LOVE IT! Also both narrators are FANTASTIC, though it doesn’t seem like we’ve heard from Karl in awhile I hope he is well!

@jamesbroadbridge2088 3 года назад

Great video, loved it, keep them coming. A video their fall would be mad

@jendersonmohammed443 3 года назад

Can't wait for more of these videos!

@di3486 3 года назад

Nobody has hope for the Amazon series. I would prefer your videos any day. Beautifully done!!!

@justicebeaver8079 3 года назад

Are you seriously claiming to speak on behalf of every single person of the world?

@tomasbleho1775 3 года назад

great video , enjoyed it . thank you for your work .

@smithsanity2727 3 года назад

This is one of my favorite stories. Great video! I surely hope they cover the Numeoreans in Amazon’s new series, that would be epic. Nonetheless, I just hope the series is done right.

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Yeah same! It would be awesome to see this on screen, it has so much potential as a story :)

@lordebrazen 3 года назад

"The numenorians were great. The numenorians were powerful. Why not immortal? A desire that would one day lead to the utter ruin of their nation." Can't wait to see THAT on Amazon's LoTR series.

@cornycontent1915 3 года назад

Oh please, we wont see anything great in that series.

@lordebrazen 3 года назад

@@cornycontent1915 Oh, look, someone from the future! Hi!

@cornycontent1915 3 года назад

@@lordebrazen No, just someone who knows the sentiments of most LOTR fans after seeing the disasters that have unfolded already

@nightfalls5462 2 года назад

@@lordebrazen look, its not hard to figure it out it probbly would be a disaster, why you ask? because of the woke political times were living in. so yeah, if they dont leave that shiat out, it will be a cringe fest, unbearable to watch

@notaseal7864 2 года назад

@@nightfalls5462 I'm gonna watch it out of my hope it will be something great but I'm not optimistic

@victorvestroia92 3 года назад

Really love your narration

@lopirobinson1991 2 года назад

It’s almost as if Men were too flawed to be given such a gift as they were given. Almost, since Aragorn and others turned out well. It’s like the Numenorians were given such great blessings and it drive them mad.

@iljavermunt4365 3 года назад

This video made me so hyped i want to learn more about the Numenorians. Before i did not understand their story! Can you make a video about them before their journey to Numenor?

@franmendes 3 года назад

The narrator is on point!!!

@almVancouver 3 года назад

Great presentation. I was riveted throughout. As for Amazon, I fear a great disappointment.

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

I am sceptical that Amazon will adhere to the canon. The Hobbit Trilogy taught us that you can make a billion bucks without following the canon.

@macree01 3 года назад

I’m skeptical the Amazon thing will ever happen. It seems like it’s been in development for years and years and we are no closer to getting it.

@almVancouver 3 года назад

@@Enerdhil Amazon has a lot riding on this.

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

@@macree01 Normally you would be right, but Bezos stepped down from his CEO position at Amazon to focus on Amazon Prime. That tells me it will get done. It would be an excellent and compelling production, but only God knows how far it will veer away from Tolkien lore canon. The Tolkien Estate has veto power over all elements in the production, but will they be updated regularly? Will they use their veto power or take some money under the table and let Amazon go wild?

@Hunte9753 2 года назад

I don't think Amazon would be as good as Peter Jackson

@sethhale8828 3 года назад

Quality work my friend. Cheers!

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

You're welcome buddy :)

@michaeladdison9172 3 года назад

I feel pity for the numenorians because they showed the great capacity of what humans can achieve when united together for a singular purpose or goal but their fear of death slowly changed their outlook on life and like many of us in this life they no longer appreciated what they had and it caused their eventually defeat.

@ScreenFiends 3 года назад

To be fair, this is a classic case of some immortal God promising something but seemingly misunderstanding the flaws of it's own creations. As in letting men suffer disease, death and ruin while never actually showing up to support that they will ever receive anything better. Meanwhile their elvin bretheren live long, healthy lives as well as having mysterious powers. Kind of negligent

@florianbarkowski6856 3 года назад

Well The elven messengers from Tol eressea or even eonwe could have told them, that they are not immortal because they would lose their gift. Some would probably nonetheless turn against the valar but they would be in the minority. That is why I take pity on them.

@ScreenFiends 2 года назад

@@florianbarkowski6856 That's pretty cool, do you think the elves would have not been allowed to tell them for some reason?

@florianbarkowski6856 2 года назад

@@ScreenFiends I think they just did not know better. For example if eonwe Herold and messenger of the valar did not mention this why should the elves think they have to. Or maybe they thought that the men of Numenor already understood this.

@tylersoto7465 2 года назад

They we're a great people with magnificent and beautifully inspiring qualities about them bravery, loyalty, the arts, knowledge, wisdom, deep understanding, sailing the seas , and a yearning and taste for adventures would of loved to see them in their glory lol 😎

@ScreenFiends 3 года назад

All I could think watching this was how incredible this would be for film or TV if done right. It certainly looks as though Amazon will be dealing with some of the peoples mentioned here. I just hope they realise that throwing money at something isn't a substitute for good writing and direction. Also, this is my favourite video so far, utterly gripped!

@PleaseNThankYou 3 года назад

Outstanding telling. There is no subject so rich as this.

@MehmetSurmeli 3 года назад

I really enjoyed this rich video a lot, thank you...

@JacobSmith-rh2sr 3 года назад

Of course elves were captaining the ships. And I bet the elves were allowed to live on Numenor if they wanted to 🙄 I'm telling you, elves were definitely favored!

@sageofcaledor8188 3 года назад

Awesome video! I hope to see this.

@T-Rev951 3 года назад

Wasn't mithril also found on Numennor (I probably accidentally spelled that wrong)

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Yeah, though I was going to discuss it in a separate video, on the culture/lifestyle of the Numenoreans :)

@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938 3 года назад

Please do culture on Nùmenor

@vesawuoristo4162 3 года назад

Awesome job , and yes I hope this is in the show.

@bigbrain445 3 года назад

THESE ARE THE BEST VIDEOS!

@billvolk4236 2 года назад

If mortality is such a gift, why weren't the Numenoreans given shorter lifespans instead of longer ones?

@wildfire9280 2 года назад

A longer mortal lifespan is still a mortal lifespan, only extended. The Gift of Men also goes a bit beyond death, iirc.

@Imperialistic82 3 года назад

Since Numenor had plants from Valinor, did the island have the same ethereal and timelessness feeling like Lorien and Rivendell?

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

I always thought that Vilya and Nenya helped preserve Imladris and Lothlorien and gave those places a magical quality.

@Imperialistic82 3 года назад

@@Enerdhil Ah yeah you have a point! But didn't the flora from Valinor have some magical powers?

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

@@Imperialistic82 You may be right. Yavanna and her Maiar seeded the land but the plants must have been protected from insects to grow and flourish in a short time. The trees must have had accelerated growth to mature into forests in just 34 years into the Second Age. We know mallorn trees were in Numenor and they definitely had a magical quality. The leaves were used to wrap lembas and hithlain, used to make Sam's rope, came from their inner bark. There were probably many flora and fauna only on the island that were lost forever when it sunk into the ocean.

@tylersoto7465 2 года назад

Most likely lol

@JasonSmith-we5ls 3 года назад

Holy shit. Great video man.

@tilltronje1623 3 года назад

Could you make a video explaining why death is supposedly a gift to men? I never understood that and the men of middle earth certainly seem to not agree. Maybe you could also include the conversation between Finrod and Andreth

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Yeah sure mate, I'll include it in my list of future topics :)

@tilltronje1623 3 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT thanks man :)

@user_____M 3 года назад

They go to Eru and go "notice me, senpai", Elves can't do that. As useful as tits on a bull anyway since the second song will happen at some point.

@AnnaMarianne 3 года назад

Because it's a gift of freedom. Men don't belong to the world, they are only visitors in it. Their ultimately destiny is somewhere else. Because of this, as long as they're not afraid of death and don't cling onto the world in panic, they're free of the world and free of destiny, free to use their short time in it as they please. But when you lose your sight of this larger picture, of the unknown adventure that awaits you after you pass on, or you lose your faith in Eru's good intentions and good plans for you in that unknown adventure, then your gaze turns solely to the world - it starts to look like the only thing you have, and you become bitter and jealous that you have less in it and less of it than the Elves. Elves, by the way, are actually in the same boat. Their existence in this world might be unending... but this world isn't unending. They know one day this world will be scrapped, and they don't know, what happens to *them* then. So they too have to just trust that Eru has good intentions for them.

@MrMarinus18 3 года назад

In war it's certainly an advantage because it means men aren't as celibate and prudish as the elves. Elf birth rate is almost none existant as they don't die unless killed. So every elf soldier who dies in battle is pretty much a permanent loss. Men die anyway so even if they lose a huge amount of soldiers or their kingdom takes a tremendous blow. In about a century they will have recovered.

@elgatosiesta 3 года назад

That artwork 👏👏🤘

@andrewfanner2245 3 года назад

Nice to see the use of images of more advanced ship designs than Viking longboats and swanships to show the deveopment of technology by the Numenoreans

@tomaszstalmach6640 3 года назад

Great video

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Thanks Tomasz! :)

@YualChiek 2 года назад

Great video! What is the name of the music track you have playing in the background?

@venkelos6996 2 года назад

Something I wish Tolkien had done a better job of; taking the polish off of the elves. Eru Illuvatar wanted the two peoples to be different, yet when the time came to reward the loyal Edain, it was done by making them more elf-like, as if that would make them even more jealous later. If he could change them, then why not even more, they might ask, and make them even more like the elves? He let the elves live in the Undying Lands, but also on Middle Earth, yet the Men were denied this same gift. The elves were basically perfect, and it got annoying. We understand that there were legitimate reasons why Men couldn't live in Aman or Valinor; it wasn't made for them, and they would have suffered there. The elves also eventually had to return, or diminish, so they couldn't just spend eternity in Middle Earth, but they could stay a long time, and many did, erecting another double standard. When the elves had to leave, it never seemed to trouble them as much as it could have. Did they have no attachment? Would they not regret forever carrying just the memories of someone they knew they'd never see again? It was bad that the Men would come to curse their own gifts, and lust after those of the elves, but even though both were made by Eru Illuvatar, the perfect elves never seemed to struggle with their gifts, or want other things, and it just added to the perfect image they are sometimes gated for. Maybe if they had seemed more like a scale in balance, and leas like a climbing peak, with the elves alone at the top, things would have been better, or if the elves had just always been in the Undying Lands, where they seemed to belong, instead of also being in Middle Earth, seemingly without consequence (though there were), they wouldn't have seemed like such a great thing to aspire to, and more Men would have been happy with their lot. Maybe not; they are based somewhat on real humans, and we can be selfishly greedy at the best of times, but... As a second, how did the Numenorians "strengthen" their navy? Apart from just building more boats, and maybe figuring out better sails, I don't get it. Even dwarves never figured out cannon, I don't think, and most people's Magic was subtle, or downplayed. I doubt they had casters setting fire to enemy ships, or devout people calling on the Valar to affect the seas, so then it just seems they'd sail alongside other ships, board and savage, and be done. As well, I'm uncertain who else had a decent navy to fight, some nor the elves? Oh well.

@SeccrssYT 3 года назад

I miss scarl 😣

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

it's Karl though :'(

@SeccrssYT 3 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT I know, i just got stuck on it because i thought your pseudonyme was Scar, and Scarl has more of a YAAAR over it, you know? Scyaaarrrl! No but ok i will stop saying Scarl out loud.

@curtislangford3181 3 года назад

Well recited...I fear however that the Amazon series will forgo these very simple concepts in favor of the more broad audience accessibility like The Peter Jackson Movies!

@grandmasteryoda5241 3 года назад

Can you make videos on the history of where the evil men that were under Sauron's influence live? For example, one video for Rhun, one for Khand, one for Umbar, and another for Harad

@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 3 года назад

I am currently on an island with a population of 9,000 humans and 90,000 sheep and on the same day a video gets released about an island people coincidence! Probably

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Just be careful of the sheep buddy, sounds like you guys are outnumbered ⚔️🐑

@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 3 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT well I don't think they are working for sauron or morgoth Although that does sound like a somehow vey effective strategy to conquer the world have your enslaved sheep kill all the shepherds then the other sheep and suddenly a food milk and wool source are removed

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Yeah it's best to just play it safe 😂

@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 3 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT I am very safe except when I am not

@istari0 3 года назад

@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal Are you sure they are sheep? They could be wargs in sheep's clothing!

@ironblue4593 3 года назад

Very interesting video to watch

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Cheers mate, I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)

@davidmiddleton7958 2 месяца назад

I will only quote from Tolkien's works. In the Silmarilion, it is said when Men awoke, the Valar did not know this. Morgoth gound the place that Man awoke, and sent his servants to spread roumor and fear into the hearts of Men. This seed would spread even to the Edain. In the Second Age, when some of the Edain went to Numenor. Alas, the works of Morgoth do ever fester, and the Dunedain began to become unsettled by their mortality and the Ban of the Valar. This led to Numenor's down fall.

@josephnelsoncanaya3494 2 года назад

Deym. Very good story❤️

@farberam 2 года назад

AMAZING

@marckrieger3277 3 года назад

I love the numenor content.

@LeventeCzelnai 3 года назад

Who would win? Elves at their glory at the beginning of the first age vs numenor at its best?

@meduseldtales3383 3 года назад

I think the Numenorean army of Ar-Pharazon was stronger then anything seen in Middle-earth except the both armies of War of Wrath.

@tefnenes3426 3 года назад

Sorry i'm late i really can't wait to see the fall of numenor and the new armor design of the upcoming series.Hope we wil also see some magic fire from the swords or arrows like in the games.

@SawyerKnight 3 года назад

so much hidden wisdom in these stories

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

Please, please make a video of the Wild Men/ Woses😀😀

@erickstaal3243 2 года назад

Could you add a list of artists with the timecodes at which their work appears?

@grahamcrawford4773 3 года назад

It would be amusing to read a Post Colonial history about the Numenoreans :-)

@His_Name_Was_King 3 года назад

Very nice....

@TheAdequateArretez 3 года назад

If this story is visited in the Amazon series, I would be extremely happy and already know I will enjoy it 👍👍👍

@fedddex 3 года назад

Part 2 please

@huanhoundofthevailinor2374 3 года назад

Nice video i enjoyed it the show thats coming out on amazon wont bother me i cant get it

@handsomefatboy Год назад

I would pay to watch a whole new show in general (or mini series) of the history of Numenor. If they make it exactly how the Tolkien family wrote the story (ancient Western European as well) it would be immortalized throughout history (as well as break numbers) like what happened to the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

@TheMarcHicks 3 года назад

You'd have thought that the Valar would have learned their lesson, after all the damage that bringing the Elves to Valinor had caused.....

@theolurican3700 3 года назад

I think this video is better than the amazon show will be.

@shanenolan8252 3 года назад

Thanks. Oh 24 min nice

@tropadefalopio 3 года назад

Wow Just wow I learn things who think knowing

@galacticknight55544 2 года назад

If I could travel to any place and time in Middle Earth's history, I would go to Númenor in the Second Age and try to prevent its corruption. A Númenor that never rebels against the Valar and is never destroyed could have stopped Sauron in its tracks.

@markstott6689 3 года назад

This was very well done so thank you. I worry about any tv serialisation of any well loved literature. The Witcher being a good example. I wait to be surprised by Amazon although my hopes are not high. Too often well loved section's are butchered. Others are omitted entirely. A myriad of excuses pour forth. I suspect Amazon will try and follow GOT's sex and violence route to try and sell it to the lowest common denominator. Going back to Numenor, if they had turned their eyes east instead of west they could have done great things. They could have ventured to the far south and brought vast areas under their purview. Stalling Sauron and weakening his influence. Of course this is all dependent on what they do once Sauron is captured. I imagine it wasn't within their strength to execute Sauron. Personally I would have delivered him to Aman and said here you go, one of your own, you deal with him.

@BigJoe6669 3 года назад

hey thats Varyan Wrynn song ! does that make a Varyan a Numenorian ? =)

@erickstaal3243 2 года назад

Who is the artist of the picture at 10:00 min into the video?

@ponder421 2 года назад

Who is the artist who did the picture with the burning white tree flag near the end of the video? Timestamp 22:25-22:40.

@kineticstar 3 года назад

Question: why did the rings need to be recovered? Doesn't that just negate the the slow indoctrination they were ment to accomplish? Is there a secondary function that Sauron need from the lesser rings besides making thall?

@lopirobinson1991 2 года назад

Lord, for such a magnificent race the Numenorians were so corrupt, at least after the beginning.

@magnis380 3 года назад

Does anyone know how long the War of Wrath lasted?

@j.k.1239 3 года назад

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

I am sure this was something Sauron had the Melkor Priests say before they sacrificed the Faithful to Morgoth.

@alexstewart9747 Год назад

Can you imagine Humans trying to invade Heaven ??

@emppme4066 3 года назад

Elrond and Elros weren't 1/2 Elven they were 3/4 Elven.

@MyPrideFlag 3 года назад

Make Numenor great again!

@christopheravetisian2591 3 года назад

Great Video! Unfortunately Jeff Bezos is Sauron, so he'll likely destroy all hope of this being translated well into an Amazon show as he continues to destroy all hope for small business. Too bad Elon Musk doesn't have a film production company yet.

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

Maybe he'll be pre-corrupted Sauron 😂

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT That would be nice, but after Bezos released his ultra woke policy for Prime, I doubt it.

@Emanon... 3 года назад

If you think Musk is your saviour, you should look into his inheritance of apartheid mining money, his busting of unions and threats to journalists... Oh, and he has 3 minor design patents to his name. Everything else he has bought... Ironically, the name of his purchased car company is "Tesla" when "Edison" would be far more fitting...

@user_____M 2 года назад

21:57 "I love the Elves, I love Eru Iluvatar [...] The Numerorians will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secured society!"

@majestic8054 2 года назад

It sucks ar-pharazon let his pride decide his people's fate.

@planetkc 3 года назад

What is your DaC TA Total War faction stan?

@Whiteylolz 3 года назад

I think this would be great to watch, the rise and fall of numenor and the founding of arnor and Gondor. Should the series last!

@jamesfry8983 3 года назад

Paradise lost

@Pedrocas84 3 года назад

Are there no subtitles on this one?

@GeekZoneMT 3 года назад

It should be there, is it not showing up? I can try and reupload it?

@Pedrocas84 3 года назад

@@GeekZoneMT they are not working no. Just the auto ones.

@bulrawg_bot 2 года назад

Could tommy bombadilly ge the valar sent first….

@twohawn4845 2 года назад

What's this new amazon story everyone talks about

@papapalpatine5308 2 года назад

Numenorians > Valyrians

@mrwho634 3 года назад

Why are you using world of warcraft soundtrack ?

@in2it85 3 года назад

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@moistmike4150 Год назад

Wow! If any of this story is featured in the Amazon Second Age series, then I sure can't wait to not watch it.

@denislemenoir 3 года назад

I do not care for this narrator, miss the GOAT

@di3486 3 года назад

I actually prefer this narrator. With the previous one I couldn’t stand watching the videos.

@calumdeighton 3 года назад

Personally. I don't trust Amazon of the makers to do a good or creditable job to the upcoming series. There's already to much political screeching and other nonsenses, to subvert and ruin the franchise. And I don't trust as mentioned, the makers or Amazon, to have any backbone to keep the series original, true to the sources of Tolkien's work and clean. Gatekeep! Always Gatekeep!

@thestraightroad305 2 года назад

I completely agree. There will be little integrity in it. Most of the effort will be to please the currently ruling political hierarchy. Just like Hollywood. I won’t be watching.