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It's amazing how school (atleast in the US) makes history so boring I would fall asleep. But 15 years later I'm fascinated by it thanks to channels like this and others. I've heard that some teachers are showing kids this type of stuff now and I think that's awesome. History is not boring!

Id like to think this is how future scholars are going to analyzing Diary of a Whimpy Kid thousands of years from now

"800 symbols is way too many" *laughs in Mandarin*

I'm Hungarian, but this is the first time I ever heard about this codex. Thank you to bring my attention to this.

Wow, I thought I was pretty well versed in obscure, mysterious, indecipherable old books but this was new to me! Thank you for always bringing fascinating subjects to us!!

Thank you Mr Mythos! As a Hungarian born in Transylvania I have to admit that you surprised me! I have never heard of Sámuel Literaty Nemes or of the Battyány's Rohonc Codex. I am as courious as Körösi-Csoma was to find out more about our roots. Keep up the precious work!

There may have been a lost "cult" in Hungary we may not know about and only praticed christianity and wrote in a secret code.Other than that it's hard to say.

I was inactive for a long time...gonna binge watch all the missed videos...keep going mate. ROAD TO 100K

Prayer books are pretty esoteric when you think about it. Really not much different than a grimoire.

When you try to convert others to your faith, the best way to do it is via changing your depiction art to that of the people you’re trying to convert. Same as the text, you would try to revert it to what they are able to read. Most holy men that traveled the world did this. You can see an example of this in China where they have a copy of the Bible that has art work using Chinese style art. Dramatically looks strange at first glance but it makes sense when you understand famous scenes from the Bible. But idk. There is many things we don’t know about when it comes to history.

Its important to remember that from the medieval period up to the renaissance, Christian Relics were extremely valuable. There were industries dedicated to producing them.

This reminds me of a certain book that was popular where I come from, called "Lexicon Cosri". It is historical fiction, but the author took inspiration from historical documents, since he was a university professor. It is a sort of chronicle documenting the three versions (Christian, Jewish and Islamic) of what happened to the lost Khazars. If you guys enjoyed this video, the book might be a nice read :)

I and my mom believe this is a book of curses. The reversal of Christian imagery, the difficulty to understand the characters, the Hungarians attitude toward further research on it? It all seems to be pointing at: instead of it being a prayer book, it’s a book of curses/occult spells etc. Often in the world of occult, reversal of a thing is mockery of it. It could tie into “as above so below” with the mirroring too.

A new mr. Mythos video? What a lovely sight to wake up to! The RU-vid gods have blessed me.

I have not stopped binging your videos since I found your account two days ago. Already my fav youtube channel. This is the exact stuff I've always found so fascinating. Your narration & script writing are amazing, and your editing of your videos is very top tier.

This reminds me of my personal journaling… Occasionally I draw, often to cover up mistakes and screw ups. But mostly as I please. I think that’s what we have here, someone’s journal. Rough accounts of happenings & culture of the author.

The Academics - "800 symbols would beyond the capacity of human memory..." Tell that to a billion Chinese.

Haven't seen from you in a while, just wanted to let you know that your mind and research and passion affects people much deeper because it's real. Always keep fighting even when it's hard. I can't wait to see your next video. Hope your doing well. Stay strong.

We all live in a global “Truman Show.” True story.

I remember watching something with a Hungarian linguist who visited Australia and could partially recognize some aboriginal words . Then went on to say it could be a part of the tartarian language.

GN and EN are twins. Either one is the writer or illustrator. You mentioned "mirroring" which symbolizes the number 2, double and gemini. That I believe could help trace and narrow down the author and illustrator of this book. Thank you.

Your channel gets me reminiscing about the classic History channel; Thanks.

I’m Hungarian, and this was one of the most fascinating videos I have ever seen! I do have my own idea about this. Thanks!!

Wow as a long time Occultist and worker of Magick, I thought I have heard of all books and read many and have a lot more to read since they keep coming out and so many old books after 12 years I still haven't read all cause many of these books need to be read at least 3 times, finally We have a book I have never heard of, thanks so much for this.

If I don't wake up I'll forsure be rewatching this very intriguing subject.

Great video. Just wanted to point out that Longinus is a Saint in the Catholic Church. He’s commonly understood to have repented for his deeds and converted. So I don’t think that point really supports a vastly different view of him or the mistakes generally than does orthodox Christianity. But just a small thing to discuss in an excellent and fun video!

Excellent 30,000 foot overview of the Rohonc Coded Prayer/Spell book - please continue to interview Tohai & Kirayi on a follow up video to get deeper ‘into the weeds’ on the latest 2022/2023 research discoveries - this video is a great ‘first step’ in solving the 800-character coded sigils and it would be very helpful to have the experts who have closely studied this relic in great depth can opine about its ‘base language’ and ‘possible subsidiary dialects’ involv’d’ (as with Herbal A & Herbal B dialects discernible in the Voynich MS 408) so as to spur on other experts worldwide-we have the Internet at our disposal, people-there is no excuse to delay things …

wow, fascinating! We have many strange scriptures and even though we have like 20 other codexes mentioning our relation to Huns and early history it's all been disputed for economical and political reasons ( thank you Austian Habsburgs ) but this is very nice and might help us understanding early days.

What was once lost, is being "rediscovered". "In Heaven, all things are known, on Earth the wonders are never ceasing".

There have been a few books found in history that have unidentifiable languages. I wonder if any of these have similarities in their language. Thankyou, I have never heard of this book but it’s very interesting that it has religious “facts” known to us but so much we don’t know of. I think sometimes books were encrypted to protect the author as many things could get you tortured and killed.

The codex must have been owned by the family who first catalogued it. This must have been a memento of a childhood attempt to create a book. (Although the magnitude of the writing meant that the child has plenty of time to do so - because there were no distractions in the 16th Century besides the threat of war.) The creation of this codex may not have been mysterious or not from some "lost" tribe, language or civilization but merely child's play. The intrinsic evidence is compelling: 1. Illustrations were crudely drawn or were considered "childish", and mostly mirrored. There is a high probability that these were drawn by a child by mirror-tracing another printed images (probably woodcuts) from actual codices of that time, thus the mirrored effect. 2. A written language of 800 individual letter scripts is improbable. A child who might have written this with little or without the prior knowledge and skill of using the alphabet is more likely to create scripts of that number by merely "copying" images or emulating the letter script or combination of letter scripts he sees from some printed codices of the time. Perhaps mimicking how the adults write known scripts creating their own make-believe scripts. The child or children who made this may not be able to read their creation thereafter but would be amused of their creation nonetheless. 3. Frightful images or imagery were mostly absent. This suggests that a child's aversion to frightful images/imagery may have been the reason for the absence of such in the codex. 4. The codex may likely be indecipherable because even the creators have not. The best way to know what it meant is to look at books or codices printed at that time that resembled the codex's illustrations. This is probably a child's attempt to copy a Bible or a Cathechism, or a Christian Book containing commentaries or treatises. 5. The paper and binding may have been expensive but if this is a memento of a child from the aristocracy, they have plenty of resources at their disposal. 6. Codex Seraphinianus is a good example of codices of this kind.

I think it's at least partially occult because the 1st illustration shown on the video at 2:18 appears to be the 3 worlds (terrestrial, celestial, intelligible). That would most likely make the city shown in the terrestrial world Jerusalem. Also, oddly enough, some of the "runes" bare a striking resemblance to enochian script though I'm not saying it is enochian. I also see what appears to be spirit signatures but again if this is a cipher it could be anything.

Love your work I enjoy learning about unknown mysteries you do it better than anybody on RU-vid I miss shows like most I don't get how ice road truckers or loggers are history and Amish mafia or fake mermaid or megolodon documentaries are discovery or how turtle man is teaching people about animals? Keep up the good work Mr Mythos it's great to learn something new !👍

Greetings from România, Rohonczy is the name of the city where the book was kept until mid 19 century The Codex Valahus is more accurate as it was written in a Dacian Getic alphabet and land. From Tisa to the Black sea from Danube to the North springs of Nistru going est to Crimea. It was being kept in an old orthodox monastery (build on top of an old Neolithic holy place), burned after one battle during the long conquering wars of Transilvania in the 14 century . Check out ,, the Belagine Laws" , ,,The other land of the Gods " , ,, Niascharian- Taina ". Zamolxe , Getica , Getae , Dacia, Tracian tribes and maps. Magura cave . Vulfillas Bible. Peace love and equity 🙏

Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels!

The “Occult” isn’t always Dark and Scary. The entire religion of Christianity, especially Gnosticism, is based off of Hebrew Magick (Qabala).

Another great video. Stoked to see you get a sponsorship, it is well deserved. inb4 Mr. Mythos gets an "avalanche of progress" to his sub count :P

Oooh. We got a fresh one. I love your work so much. Please keep them coming. I'm here for the long haul.

This is extremely well read, thank you very much as always, mister Mythos.

i’ve watched everyone video on this channel & im proud of it

11:59 I think that’s not a depiction from hell. Thats a depiction of the three men that were put in an oven by a king. Although it would be missing the Angel that was in there with them.

“Not even the author could remember 800 symbols,” they said in the 1800s. When Egyptian hieroglyphs were known to be in the hundreds, Oriental scripts were becoming familiar to scholars, and it was common for historians to memorize the contents of 800+ paintings. Now we deal in logos and memes that outnumber our vocabularies.

Thank you, Mr. Mythos, for yet another intelligently researched and presented curiosity of history. I do appreciate the very thorough, interesting and understandable manner in which you submit mysteries of antiquity. Kudos and much gratitude.

Just came back from work don't think i catch the live stream Greetings from egypt and much more success .

Another solid video . Your work quality doesnt reflect your sub count . Still almost 100k and I have to say that 1 million isn't that far fetched of a dream . Keep up the amazing work man

Been in this mix for 30+ years but am pleasantly surprised with each release Thank you

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I'm Hungarian I'm highly intrested not just in hungarian mythology and origins but that of the world and cultures, religions, esoterism, occultism, ancient civilizations and all sub categories of that. While not being an academic myself i spend way too much time learning and listening to possible theories. There are theories about connecting ancient Magyars to Sumer, Scythians etc. (Emese, and like the Great Stag which is found in sculptures of thiers) (the finnugor theory with every year becomes more clear that is was nothing more than a political agenda to connect the people to Europe and put an end or at least halt research of the origins). I say this because in the book the drawings and symbols depict egyption man looking at the chin and headress some of which look like Pharaohs. And the angels look more like the more "real" versions. I assume you are familiar with or one could just simply see the connections between the "gods" of Sumer, Egypt, Greece which later seemed to highly influence christianity. Ancient Hungarians said to be shamanistic (táltosism which was our special shamanism often reffered to each as the same but it was not) Hungarians never believed in transcendental beings, They simply honored the elements. With the sun at it's center. Magic (Mágia) in hungarian according to wikipedia simply means the manifestation of Will. ( The now modernized practice of the "Law of Attraction"). However there were coins found that point out that Ancient hungarians before with the symbolism on coins but reversed might have practiced a different branch of buddhism something in now northern India. Sun, Moon, Stars, the symbols of 3 major religions. Hungarian Used the Sun and the Moon together. They were also accepting of all religions, as pagans as christians. Anyone could practice whatever they wished. Now the mystical part. I think it was your video about Agartha which i watched a month ago that depicted 7 teachers the time when i found your channel, and immidietly after i wondered if you made anything with Hungary which you did :). We had 7 tribe leaders who made a blood pact and establishised the Kingdom of Hungary. I can look at the current map around Isreal and point out about 40 City names that without thinking i would say they are Hungarian and Ancient Hungarian. If you look up on wikipedia the "Names of Jerusalem" one of which is in biblical Greek is Hierosolyma, Solyóm means Falcon or Hawk, Also the "The Turul is a mythological bird of prey, mostly depicted as a hawk or falcon, in Hungarian tradition and a national symbol of Hungarians." Going back to egypt i ask you What is Ra? besides being the sun he is or rather his aspects are depicted as such of a falcon, or hawk. The Hungarian name for Hungarian is Magyar, which has different interpretations one of which can be Magians. That sound to me almost like magicians. However if you look at the hungarian side of the Name: Magyar - Mag-ar- Mag őr/ur/úr - Where "Mag" means "seed", Őr - Keeper/Guard, Ur/Úr - Lord. There are theories mostly by people risking thier carriers mentioning Agartha as well connecting it to hungarians most likely because of the Tayos Cave or Táltos Barlang in Ecuador the most well documented cases the original discover mostly swept under the rug Juan Móricz / János Móricz who spoke to the keepers of the cave in hungarian, there are some pretty good stuff out there especially linguistic and tradition ones that point out (I think) The mayan traditional dress is almost exactly like the one of the Hungarians. There indigionous tribes in kechua sharing hungarian words. There's even something about a researcher who found aboriginals in australia whom he could speak hungarian with. Lastly: Personally I just find it fun to think and research or just hear out people on these subjects, Of course i'm probably biased since this is what language i speak not because of the nationality. I speak and think in english often more than in hungarian however i would never give my tongue up it also seems to me "tinfoil hats on" that others wanted to erase us during our whole history to this day, hell if i meet someone chances are they don't even know anymore what Hungary is or what we contributed to the world. When i was younger i would have told my future self you are nuts. Then i realised the only thing that is left for Hungarians to find thier old connection and maybe not just thiers but a big part of true world history - which i personally belive to be couldn't be further away from the full truth now as it is - to simply think about the language. The language is the only thing as hungarian that really makes you wonder compared to all the other ones i know of and heard and spoken to other people from different parts of the world Hungarian feels truly unique in a way. It's almost as it was made to be some sort of solution to a code itself perfectly constructed so every single word has a meaning there is a phrase or expression or word for every act, most of which can mean multiple things than one all perfectly connecting and thus revealing much more behind them being simply words. It is like it was crafted driven by logic, mathematics, music, kids, phyisics, philosophy and love to be a key to the theory of everything. Anyway i rest my case sorry that it's so jumbled and long. This was an alt account for anyone replying to this. I will probably never read it - the idea is out there do with it what you think you must. And Mr. Mythos hope to see more equally interesting videos very soon great research great content who knows maybe you even find one of the subjects above to be worthy of making an episode about in the future :)

"If it's just a prayer book why is it written in a difficult and obscure script?" This sounds like a completely normal thing to do within the subculture of constructed languages. 16th century conlanger(s) confirmed?

The finno-ugric language group has always fascinated me, specifically the geographic separation between the two, how the fk did that happen? I've seen old maps where Finland was either practically nonexistent or much larger than today, including Keralia, St. Petersburg and more. A lot of old Finnish music shares the same style as Hungarian music, proto klezmer I guess.

This would be even more incredible if it was written in an alien or ancient language from a civilization we don't know of. Mixing religions and adding stars to each could be a way to show how they are linked together as one and come from the heavens. Or I could be speaking out of my rump. Either or

The years mentioned are interesting. Their account of Jesus' birth being 5166 when subtracted from our current year on the Jewish Calendar (5782) leaves a remainder of 616. While that may not stand out as odd to most, at least some of you may know. In the oldest fragmental excerpt of Revelations 13:18, the number of the beast is stated as 616.

Another brilliant video! Bringing to light obscure texts! Something that benefits everyone!

It seems like a very crude homemade "Bible Story Book" like a poor peasant parent would make for their children (possibly having only heard the stories themselves from a missionary). It was mentioned that this book contains no violent depictions, that could be because it was meant to be read and shown to children as a bedtime story book of sorts. Also, the fact that the two names shared the same surname could be because they were husband and wife. I only thought of this because the book contains many prayers (that young children are typically taught) which, to me, would belong in something like a Bible story book. Just my thoughts.

Feels kinda sad that i just realized i already watched all of the videos from this channel. We need more!

Just when they almost finished decoding the Voynich manuscript, there is still the Rohonc Codex to decode. Another challenge accepted!

Wow, the Hungarian Institute was sadly erroneus about 8000 characters being too much for human memory....Chinese has over 50,000.

I wonder if anyone tried holding the script up to a mirror? LOL! Another gem of a video. Thank you!

I can't help but get the feeling that this codex and the voynich manuscript, are surviving books from the burning of the library of alexandria. I'd love to know what other books might've made it out "alive"!?!?!?!?!?!

This channel is going to be huge, pls keep going! Already with the small library you've compiled, there are so many things not covered six hundred times before.

This might be work of bogumils from bosnia or serbia, hungarians went on crusades for them in medieval age. They had exact same manacheist/gnostic teachings

What if it was a guy’s notebook who was studying the similarities between the main religions, and concluding that they are all connected? If it was written in the 16th century it would have been a dangerous thing to think/say so he might have coded his diary.

Though it would seem difficult to understand in the context of the ancient world, the Tartarian Empire had a very similar set of laws to those seen in the Constitution of the United States. Religious freedom.

Mr Mythos: drops a fascinating and well researched video about an eastern european relic Me: Seriously wondering if the Rohonc Codex exists in the Castlevania universe, and if Dracula wrote it.

Glad to see this channel blow up as much as it has. Honestly some of the best content on youtube

Considering that the paper is believed to have been from the time of the Ottoman occupation of Hungary in the 16-17th centuries, I personally believe that the codex was produced by Christians attempting to hide their religion from their Muslim overlords in a era of religious persecution. This may explain why the codex is so heavily encoded (using a logogram, instead of an encrypted alphabet like most other codices do) and also why much of the Christian imagery is obscured through symbolism and mirroring, as this would throw off Turkish inspectors. It was also explain why something as ordinary and mundane as Christian prayers would have to be hidden, as this type of content would not be all out of ordinary in Christian societies, but would have been supressed in Ottoman occupied Europe. That being said, I think the occult hypothesis certainly has equal merit. Also, as a historian who has studied Hungarian history, the alternative theories make no sense. Tartar, Proto-Hungarian and the Dacian-Romanian theories can easily be ruled out as the paper is dated to at least the 16th century, not the 9th/10th centuries that these theories are proposing. Also it is pronounced RohonTS not RohonK !

Honestly when I saw the "welcome to occult mysteries" I thought twilight zone zombie shit this just gets better man :)

Your voice is so perfect for this sort of topic. It’s like I’m watching a lost history channel show. Great work man, new fan here

Thanks for another cool and well-researched tale of mystery. Love your work.

I can’t wait for this! I always watch your new specials with my mom on the big screen!

Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. Many thanks for the link to the Rohonc Codex.

Awesome research! This was new to me. Also love your voice:)

I'm hungarian. Love your channel very much! Thanks for this interesting video. The hungarian crown is also a mystery. And the sumerian hungarian connection is also a new popular theory,maybe you've heard about it. Our real history was rewritten many times.

"Shows no blood" there is a hole in the right side of his chest and 2 drips of blood below it.

cant wait to watch! also wanted to suggest if you could do a video about the Dogu statues from Japan? wondering what you think about them/what you would find on them

Thank you so much!! I don´t know why the detrimental description of the drawings... I find them beautifully crafted with a unique sense of style

All texts with codes without exception as well as stones crystals and paintings like the 'Mona Lisa' have codes in them that can only be access by the people intended for-Its access by the hands of those that are meant to access this information in this way its protected-this was made so by the scribe that downloaded this information-beautiful & ingeneous- Rohonc Codex solved-Blessed it Be.

I remember when you had just a couple thousand just a few months ago, I had no clue you reached 100k! Congrats man!

It is interesting that it was cataloged as a prayer book and the researchers have decoded prayers in it. How did the original cataloger know this?

The book wasn't part of namesh's deals it was already in the Hungarian counts family library!! So deff. Not a forgery so they covering something up!!

I really appreciate your effort to unveil countless secrets of the past to me. Your videos are brilliant work no doubt.

11:59 That looks more like a depiction of the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and how they got tossed into a fire and then were saved by god or whatever. Not that religious, I just was raised in a Christian household so that's what that picture reminds me of most.

When my Japanese language was good I knew 3,500 + kanji, or Chinese characters 漢字。800?

Tartaria was a world wide civilisation that has been wiped out of history for some reason

I live in Transilvanian, it is in Romania. We share it with Hungarian people that don't like Hungary! And it s closer to the Hungarian capital, Budapest .... that to the capital of Romania, Bucharest. TRANSILVANIA is shared between, Romanians, Hungarians and Germanic people. Thk u 4 the great video! 🙏

The "Anchor Watermark" looks a lot like the image of the "Abraxas" ('Abrasax')...

Impossible to decipher bc of the amount of symbols? Emojis: hold my beer 🍺 🤪 😋 🙃

Could be “The Secret Book of Dzyan”, which Helena Blavatsky bases her Secret Doctrine on. An amalgamation of eastern, western and occult philosophies. These ancient manuscripts are said to predate history and have been hidden to all but a few of the highest adepts.

Very nice experience in live chat. It's nice to have live conversations, with like minded mammalian.

When they managed to decode nouns I noticed "bread" like 6 times. I wonder if they are different kinds, or different tones of bread.

Are they really lost,or were they taken out so the history would be forgotten.

I’m obsessed with this channel

the mirroring is "as above so below"

Absolutely amazing 👏😍 i can imagine the effort and research gone in to make this documentary..hats off..

Love the content you produce, the available evidence and atention to detail, bravo :) (just change the flag you displayed it ain't Hungarian it's Italian)

The mirroring aspect is fascinating. I wonder, has anyone put the book next to a mirror and then looked at the words and pictures reflections? I wonder if it becomes readable or some noticeable cypher pattern emerges when the pages are viewed that way. Writing some things mirrored or backwards implies hidden meaning the reader is supposed to unscramble by looking at it differently. Perhaps inverting the pages or looking at their mirrored image is the key to solving the mystery and cracking the language.

I legit am happy as when you post a video dude. So surprised you don’t have million subs. ❤️❤️✌️

I'm on a PC(i refuse to "surf" on a phone) so i just download this to watch in a Mr.Mythos marathon later 🙂😇🤫💌 Great stuff to watch in bed when trying to calm down before sleep. I have anxiety(GAD) and problems with intrusive thoughts about earlier mistakes(you know the drill) so this fills my head perfectly 🙂

It will always be speculation. The guy was discredited but was there an ulterior motive for this? Hmmm, another mystery Mr M.