I would have preferred Commander Donatra show up to help Picard with 3 D'Deridex warbirds versus the 3 Valdore she showed up with that quickly met their fate.
I thought the same thing! Reminds me of a Razee, a concept from the age of sail. Take a 1st or 2nd rate ship of the line, and remove the upper deck, creating and oversized/overgunned frigate.
if you think about it honestly the D'Deridex was pretty wasteful in the size department. I mean yeah it was BEEG but what did that size accomplish exactly? It wasn't for housing a bigger crew compliment that's for damn sure.
I think you should do a video on the scimitar next, as a companion video for this one, so fans can get a better understanding of why such a incredibly designed vessel got so stomped on.
what a great looking ship, by far the best looking large Romulan ship. Some of their support craft and fighters are pretty too, but for fully fledged starships, I don't think anything else in their fleet compares.
I often wonder how Star Trek would've turned out if the Bird of Prey wasn't bungled in its movie debut and remained a Romulan design... Doesn't take away from how great the Mogai looks on-screen. I'd love to see more of 'em show up, maybe two or three of them backed up by a D'Deridex, ominously approaching the Neutral Zone border. I'm surprised you said only two Romulan Warbirds were shown. I always counted three, the Mogai, D'Deridex, and the original Plasma Torpedo Warbird from Balance of Terror.
Okay Rick, we need a list of your *favourite, most beautiful Starfleet* designs. Not the ultimate powerhouse ships, but the ones with the best aesthetics and lines. And I fully expect to see the Excelsior on that list.
IIRC, it was the Cardassian Obsidian order that was forbidden from having their own fleet - Tal'Shiar officers could "hijack" any ship for their own purposes (c.f., "Face of the Enemy"). So entire battlegroups could fall under the Tal'Shiar (or the Jad'Vaj or whatever organization that doesn't exist) by the time we get to Picard Season 1. This takes nothing away from the Mogai being the coolest ship in the franchise IMO. And I love the Sovereign... And the D'Deredex... And...
My favorite design in Trek will always be the D7. The sheer audacity of putting everything important except for the warp core out on the end of that long, skinny neck and basically daring everyone to try to cut it off. Nothing could be more Klingon. The Mogai ain't bad either, though :)
The Mogai is such a beautiful vessel, one of the designes that deserved more screen time on a serie or movie, curious that one of the most "untrustful" faction uses mixing attack and defense patterns.
At first, I thought those outermost pods, out beyond the large warp nacelles, were large sensor pods. But your explanation of them being for use while clocked at warp makes sense as well.
My favorite Romulan design is the Heavy Destroyer that you get with the Lifetime Subscription. It's also my most-used ship in _STO_ because of the battle cloak and firepower. Although I don't think its mode transformation looks quite as cool as the Manticore's does.
I liked this ship alot in Nemesis because it showed that the Romulans could learn, adapt, and change things that weren't working. The Dominion War showed them that comprising their entire navy of frigates and battleships was a dumb idea so they finally built some heavy cruisers.
My 3rd fav ship in Star Trek The NX-01 is my second and The D'kyr Type is my First i love those Vulcan Ship Designs. Respect and keep up the epic work.
Rick, we all love Romulan Design. And you're absolutely right, the D'deridex is still an icon. By the way, love your content, the STO content is amazing.
Always loved the design. Feels more like a warbird than the D'Deridex as that ship was just intimidating. The legendary Valdore is one of my favorite ships on STO tho not gonna lie...it would look awesome in an assimilated Scimitar paint job.
Always loved this design too, it definitely feels like the Romulan version of the Sovereign class. I’d love to see a video on the larger 2399 warbird that Commodore Oh had. (Even if it is smaller than the older warbirds based on the bridge shot in Picard S1.) I doubt there’s much info on it, but it’s a pretty cool design that doesn’t get talked about much.
Can we have more, please? More ships! We crave the knowledge of trek ship breakdowns.... well I do at least... and I don't play with my little ships while watching, I'm just cleaning them while making phaser noises 😅
I LOVE this ship too! I love it more than the Sovereign, I love it more than the futuristic Statfleet designs, it's just so... elegant yet deadly! Not much of a fan of the D'Deridex Class, but tje Valdore... MWUAH! 😍
Despite a shared origin with the Klingon Bird of Prey, you can tell it's still a Romulan ship by it's use of negative space, within the neck and wings.
In my own Star Trek online story, most of my characters on Star Trek online are eighteen. My klingon character is sixteen along with my romulan Republic character. I am inspired by your Star Trek online story series.
2373 introduction => 2376 full production & 2373 to 2375 Dominion war: So I disagree that it 'missed out' on this event. In my humble opinion it came at he best of times; It could abuse the war to test all it's systems and get rid of any shortcomings. If it would not be for their sun going nova, my guess is these warbirds + modernised D'Deridexes would rule tha Alpha quadrant.
I'd have two exceptions; the Mazzerite warship (partial D'Deridex model) and the imposing-looking D'Kyr-class. Aside from the Valdore-class only the D'Kyr or Surak classes can compete in elegance, but they're definitely not as battle-hardy as the Valdore
6:08 Actually the Mogai has Six impulse engines, the ones you pointed out yes, Plus 4 more that are built into the structure of the wings. I do like the Mogai, it’s powerful but not too big.
I have a T5 Mirror Mogai in Star Trek Online and I love it, its maneuverable, packs a punch but lacks in hull. Eventually I want to replace it with the T6 version but it's a Zen store ship and money has been tight since the last US presidential election.
kinda sad that all the klingon/romulan ships look so similar. which is why i really appreciated the ENT romulan warbird with the nacelles on top. just had enough of the spindly stick with a big head and two wings with underslung nacelles.
I love the Mogai. I just wish Star Trek's producers would not treat the Romulan Fleet like it's made up exclusively of a single ship class at any given time. A fleet of D'Deridex, Mogai and the Warbird from Picard Season 1 would make a great armada for a Star Fleet hero ship to take on in a future Star Trek streaming TV show.
This video makes the Valdor look really cool, but I remember being disappointed, watching Nemesis, thinking it looked _too_ Klingon. Even now, I'd have preferred if they'd accentuated the way its material folds around empty space, like the older warbirds, without being as bulky as its predecessors.
Valdore is my favorite ship from the movies and shows, followed by Akira, Daihakama and finally Sovereign. If, if I had a choice to serve on one or captain one of them, then I would choose either Valdore or Akira, depending on allowed faction. Ps: Im not considering here any STO ships, which are also great, like for example Arbiter class, Qu'Daj class, Faeht class, Mat'Ha class or Baratan class.
Very much top of my Romulan ships list along with other non Canon sleek designs like the Griffin/Griffon class from the Armada and Away Team games. I really hoped that would be in the Legacy of Romulus pack but alas it wasn't.
The D7 Battle Cruiser design was stolen by the Romulans as mentioned in the episode (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) The Enterprise Incident from TOS. Kirk had to pose as a Romulan to steal the cloaking device to prevent them from getting the upper hand in technology. Ever since then, the Romulans based their ships on that design of a bird.
I will always call it the "Valdore-class" because both 'Norexan' and 'Mogai' don't work for me, but the design is beautiful and makes the class look so much better than either the D'Deridex or the TOS/23rd-century Bird-of-Prey because it's sleeker and has an aggressive design that makes it look like you'd be a fool to challenge it while the D'Deridex looked more like going against the largest kid in a schoolyard and trying to fight them. It's clear from a behind-the-scenes standpoint why both exist; competing with the Federation flagship class, but they also (unfortunately) also match the elegance or bulk of their rival It should have had a presence beyond a blink and you'll miss it "cameo" during Season 1 of "Prodigy" even if the fight against the Scimitar definitely showed it could compete alongside the Sovereign, love the mention of how the Scimitar was basically an overpowered ship
Valdore showed nicely that it had huge forward firepower, its speed/agility and dmg instantly was noticed by shinzon and forced him to focus it first, but for that i did pay at durability. Even when you count it that it were point blank shots that hit first Valdore and other was also short range focus fire, while he was playing with sovereign to not destroy it, Sovereign showed move firepower/better arc coverage and tbh durability even if you ignore plot armor seemed better. I would compare Valdore to an overgrown defiant more then Sovereign tbh, its just a augument to existing D'derixe's that because of size of their frame probably can be upgraded for 200+ years and at some point will be stopped produced just by the existing numbers (as you never lack room for new bigger stuff or more powerfull singularity cores).
I personally feel that the Mogai class would have looked better with a smaller wingspan. Talking about favorites among the Romulan starships, have you checked out the Daeinos class and the Aelahl class ships? Venom Geek Media has videos on both of them.
well its more like they realy meant photion torpido launchers is just a term in star trek of any ship ewapon sistem that fires torpidos has are usaly in the later 23rd centry and later can acaly have any kind of tropdio launcher can use any kind of torpido pod ammo tpyes that they can use. but photon laucher is just the defalt weapon name calsfaction tpye term for any startrek tropido launcher due to how alpha and beta canon works in a in depth tach star ship spefcaltions. so teacly in star trek any photon torpdio laucher can fire any torpdio that can be used by any faction ship. the thing is with the toripodo laucnhers is just we all call them photon torpeido luanchers by defalt. like star trek online also allready bacly waters down the complexty of how actaly the way photon torpio laucnhers even work so its way easier for your ship in gameplay mehcinics. this is so you arent forced to not waste so many invtory strage slots to carry like a huge invtory of a more reasltic mangament of of all of thsoe diffrent tpyes of torpedio pods for every photon laucher. not how like they like they did in the real far more to the offcal sroce aplha canon offcal tectcal combat logtcial stuff that is done by the startrek brige comander game seres. by the way just bescue its called a photon torprido laucher bascly means it can fire the many difrent kinda of tropidos ammo pod types we see in ofca aplha and beta canon sorces. in this case romains normaly have there photon tropido laucher are normaly fireing there plasma tropedio pods in this case.
Considering the ease in which Shinzon dispatched these ships i never gave this class much respect. I always thought it was a bad decision to create this new Romulan Warbird and also not give it a more impressive debut.
Always thought the Mogai more of a strike craft rather than a heavy combat ship. In Nemesis they were doing well working with the more heavy sovereign class. But once they got broken up. They were finished off easy enough.
The Mogai and Sovereign class being somewhat on par with each other is indeed somewhat disturbing, especially since it would not be the first time that things like Starfleet's ship designs and specs would be leaked to other powers. One only has to look at the similarities between the Defiant and the Cardassian Hideki class. Really says something about Starfleet Intelligence being sloppy.
She is a thing of beauty and always has been, even if a bit frail. If she's almost as fast as a Sovereign, and if there are enough of them available, i can see how she would be a success, as i would presume, the smaller volume and crew needed to man it, would mean there would be more available at any given point, then the previous Warbirds. This should allow the traditionally outnumbered Romulans, significantly more strategic and tactical flexibility, something that in the TNG era could only rely on their superior cloaking technology. Useful in surprise attacks yes, but not all that advantageous in an open brawl, especially on multiple fronts.
Near the rear of the Mogai, you can see 6 glowing small nearly flat cylinders, does anyone knows what are those? I recall seeing similar structures on the Defiant-class too.
In space you have a problem. Excessive heat can only be transported via radiation as there is no other medium like air. So i'd not say the wings are wasted space. Just think about 2 large radiators to get rid of the weapon fire excess heat. Thus allowing for longer and more intensive battles.
All these ship designs assume ships will be met "face to face". The likely hood of that is pretty much nil. Very sleek when met head on. But if you enter the engagement from the z axis this ship, along with most others, is like hitting the broad side of a barn. A full volley of photon torpedoes from "above" would probably take this ship out.
I love the Romulan Star Empire because basically its what the Roman Empire would have been had they never broken up. Its a facisnating mind (f) if you really love history and think of where the Romans could have gone had the continued. I would think very much they would have become the Romulan Empire.
