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Starship Battles: D’Deridex Warbird Vs. Akira Class (Animated Battle) 

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Starship Battles Pits various ships against eachother and uses Canon to justify the fight!
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00:00 - Teaser
00:22 - Beginning Story
00:48 - Akira Class Breakdown
02:51 - D'Deridex Warbird Breakdown
04:43 - Battle Proper
06:41 - Conclusion
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@vic5015
@vic5015 3 года назад
Can you even imagine an Akira patrolling the Neutral Zone with an Andorian or Tellarite as captain? "We have all this firepower. Give us a reason to use it, we dare you!"
@Zachomara
@Zachomara 3 года назад
@Karl Llewellyn Suggestion: use Worf as the Captain and have an Andorian Tactical Officer. I really wanted to see something like that in classic Trek.
@paulprovenzano3755
@paulprovenzano3755 2 года назад
I’d pay good money to see an Andorian in an Akira fight some Jem ‘Hadar
@4everhealthwellness344
@4everhealthwellness344 Год назад
One thing I'm not as knowledgeable on is certain species. Are the Andorians more warlike? Or at least in combat situations better at taking the offensive initiative? Not as much as Klingons perhaps
@bigevil1001
@bigevil1001 Год назад
@@4everhealthwellness344 The Andorians were featured most prominently in TOS and Enterprise. They were militant and were big on fighting. They are one of the original 4 founding members of the Federation.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Год назад
@@4everhealthwellness344 in the game Birth of the Federation, the blurb for the Andorians is that they had a past not unlike ours. Just that they fought with other people instead of within themselves like we did. To think of how the federation was put together, it’s that Earth had the big idea, the Vulcans did all the thinking, the Andorians put together the weapons and the Tellarites built the stuff.
@bigq7807
@bigq7807 3 года назад
Thumbs up for Captain Tex
@Utbaut
@Utbaut 3 года назад
So the lesson is: if we place a warbird cloaked and without shields like a sitting duck in front of akiras torpedo launchers, Akira wins. Huh.
@1Scimetar
@1Scimetar 3 года назад
I thought I was hearing Tex from the Black Pants Legion.
@1Scimetar
@1Scimetar 3 года назад
@@Utbaut That's assuming they aren't using the cloak. The Akira isn't a threat if they don't know you're there. Also, a D'deridex, like in the video, would get more of a draw scenario as D'deridex firepower is roughly comparable to that of a Galaxy class ship.
@Utbaut
@Utbaut 3 года назад
@@1Scimetar That's the point. Even a hypothetical comparison makes no sense if I just limit certain abilitys to a point where it gets rediclues only to find somewhat of a conclusion. Even a "Well, I don't know." would be more honest.
@mattmilsop4003
@mattmilsop4003 3 года назад
Oh my god!!! That WAS him!!!
@stephenknizek2651
@stephenknizek2651 3 года назад
I don’t think that the Romulans fight these duels to win. They’re not Klingons. These tête-à-tête engagements are probably just tactical tests of, in this instance, the Akira.
@andrewjones2453
@andrewjones2453 3 года назад
Information gathering.
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 3 года назад
Agreed. They learned more about the Akira in that one engagement than they would have any other way. Besides, the Akira is a beast but 1 against a D'Deridex would have been a very one-sided fight if the Romulan Commander was actually trying.
@aldoaguirre8064
@aldoaguirre8064 2 года назад
Indeed... Save your "special fatalities" for the end game...
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 2 года назад
I agree. The drop the War Bird had on the Akira would have done more damage to it and then make another pass and finish it off if they was out to win.
@bermanmo6237
@bermanmo6237 8 месяцев назад
Many like test. Sort of like American Arleigh class destroyers going up against a PLA Navy Type 52D destroyers in the dispute waters of the South China Sea.
@traviswatts9082
@traviswatts9082 3 года назад
If this D-Deridex class has upgraded weapons I believe it would be a toss up. I always thought of the Akira having roughly the same offensive capability of a contemporary Galaxy. What makes the Akira a better warship is that it has comparable power in a more efficient package. It’s smaller, more maneuverable, takes less resources to build while relying on less crew. While it has these advantages on a Warbird the Warbird being far larger can take more punishment and in most instances have the advantage of first strike.
@ascelot
@ascelot 2 года назад
Closest battle youl find with akira vs warbird was in voy message in bottle, 1 akira, 2 defant class (including prometheus) vs 3 warbirds
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar 11 месяцев назад
Yeah but in message in a bottle 1 Akira went toe to toe with 3 warbirds the 2 defiant class ships went after the Prometheus and it attacked the 3 warbirds by itself
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar 11 месяцев назад
@@ascelotand there the Akira class was going 1v3 for the first bit the 2 defiant were solely focused on the Prometheus
@jasonwestwood7092
@jasonwestwood7092 4 месяца назад
And 15 to 17 pulse fire torpedo launchers.
@casbot71
@casbot71 3 года назад
*StarFleet Captain:* Commence Tachyon sweeps, scan for neutrino emissions, and get that Betazoid ensign up to the bridge ASAP.
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 3 года назад
I thought Troi was only able to locate the Viceroy because the Viceroy was himself psychic. She can’t normally link with non-psychics, except with someone she once shared a deep bond with, like Riker. Then again, a full telepath might be able to
@casbot71
@casbot71 3 года назад
@@artembentsionov A full blooded Betazoid could… Remember Luxwana Troi _casually_ uncovered the bombing plot of those two fish people that Worf thought were handsome. And when she was kidnapped by some Ferengi (the only species besides Changelings that she couldn't read) she could read Picard on the bridge of the Enterprise so she could play along with his romantic deception. But the best example was in *Tinman* when the Betazoid prodigy (and late Sunnydale Mayor) could read the Alien ships mind lightyears away and also the intentions of the Romulan ships that were far out of weapons range of the Enterprise - he gave a warning to Tinman. If StarFleet was pragmatic they would have a highly trained full blooded Betazoid on every combat or exploration ship (imagine one as weapons officer, reading enemy shield frequencies and planned combat manoeuvers), and Starfleet Intelligence would be full of them. [Just go through the episode list of TNG and give Deanna the abilities but not the personality of her mother]. The Vulcans could make sure they don't abuse their powers by the occasional mind meld when up for review.
@y0uCantHandle
@y0uCantHandle 3 года назад
Yeh that Ensign Betazoid is hot. She should really just hang around on the bridge.
@bisonhawk1
@bisonhawk1 3 года назад
Shit how about scanning for quantum singularities god knows that's given them away a number of times.
@n5syr01
@n5syr01 2 года назад
Here is a thought. How about you start scanning for localized gravitational anomalies, disturbances in the local interstellar media (a nebula would be the worst place for a cloaked ship), and use the computer to put two and two together and see if the gravitational anomaly is MOVING within the disturbed area of local material. There is always some form of dust and debris in space, the density is the trick. Only way a cloaked ship, Klingon, Romulan, or other, could stay hidden is to not move.
@trapperjohn3488
@trapperjohn3488 3 года назад
The Akira had an unfair Advantage being commanded by Tex.
@HacksignKT
@HacksignKT 2 года назад
Tex?
@ArvexYT
@ArvexYT 2 года назад
@@HacksignKT The voice of the Akira captain. He's Tex of the Black Pants Legion channel.
@HacksignKT
@HacksignKT 2 года назад
@@ArvexYT ty anon, have a good weekend
@thumpin250
@thumpin250 Год назад
I’m glad it wasn’t just me that heard him. boys starting to get around.
@badgerwildgaming6908
@badgerwildgaming6908 9 месяцев назад
Bpl boys are some hard nosed mad bastards.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 года назад
You have a ship in the Akira class that was designed to go toe-to-toe with a Borg Cube. I'd say it has the stuff to take out a single D'Deridex if called upon to do so.
@trekwars5400
@trekwars5400 3 года назад
Only the first prototypes were make to fight the borge.. the stander Akira-class are much less armed. This was intended for mass production to replace the Excelsior as new work horse.
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 2 года назад
In the Dominion war the Dominion looked at the D'Deridex as the most powerful ship the Coalition had. The D'Deridex showed that it could take out a Dominion battle curser with little effort and could put some hurt on a Dominion battle ship one on one and three war birds would destroy it. The other powers in the coalition could not say the same for their ships. The biggest problem with the war bird was you could not build it in the numbers needed because of it's great size unlike the Akira. The Akira was made for taking on Borg along side other ships when fighting. Unless you are 8472 it's foolish to take on a Borg cube one on one.
@marksouthwell4490
@marksouthwell4490 Год назад
@@trekwars5400 the confusing hull configuration was designed to tackle the Borg, plus weapon upgrades . Similar with the Steam runner, Sabre and Norway class 😊
@CelicaSound
@CelicaSound 5 месяцев назад
​@@trekwars5400 it absolutely was not. The akira class was built as a battle cruiser. Upto 15 torpedo launchers to work in tandem with the Norways phaser lance. The excelsior was seen as adequate for the job of Fleet workhorse well into the 2380s where it would be prototyped in various formats and overhauls until the launch of the excelsior 2
@TheRyFiNetWork
@TheRyFiNetWork 3 года назад
God I LOVE me some Akira Class, shame it was not on screen more during DS9, beautiful ship built as a direct result of Wolf 359. Nice Video.
@potatoradio
@potatoradio 3 года назад
well you have all of the enterprise episodes, ok if you flip the screen...
@MrTbk1701
@MrTbk1701 Месяц назад
I really like the steam runner class ship and I’m glad a lower decks fan and they actually gave her her duty because she’s a tough ship as well, and obviously Benjamin Sicko helped make the Defiant to defeat the Borg so he’s amazing. I also still have the playmates version of the Roman warbird which I painted so it has lights all over it and fixed the fact that it had blue lights to green.
@MrTbk1701
@MrTbk1701 Месяц назад
@@potatoradio i have every episode including the fan based episodes as well.
@pinoi78
@pinoi78 3 года назад
SUCH a beautiful ship...probably in my top three Federation ships of all time.
@StarAIwolf
@StarAIwolf 3 года назад
The Akira class also has a through deck shuttle bay with fighters in it to help defend it
@sgt_s4und3r54
@sgt_s4und3r54 3 года назад
What made this more awesome was having TEX from Black Pants Legion and SidAlpha. I don't always agree with Sid but I do appreciate his work and TEX is just amazing.
@borg111
@borg111 3 года назад
Nice video! I can't say for sure, but I believe an Aikra would come out on top if her captain and crew were well experienced. In The Voyager episode: "Message in a Bottle", Starfleet sent an Akira and 2 defiant class ships to fight 2 Warbirds and the Prometheus. That to me speaks volumes on how tough the Akira is.
@STSGingie
@STSGingie 3 года назад
This was a fun analysis and a good battle. I'm very happy to see and hear more Tex in any capacity. I like that you named your Akira, Becket, presumably after Ensign Marriner. Congratulations on a well made collaboration.
@xxXLonewolf87Xxx
@xxXLonewolf87Xxx 3 года назад
u know one akira did take on 3 Warbirds while 2 defiant class did take on the promethius class ship in voyeger and survive the assoult quite good
@robgyanisu312
@robgyanisu312 3 года назад
Uhhhh, go back and watch that episode again: the vessel that engaged the Romulans (and LOST!) was a _Nebula-_ class ship!
@xxXLonewolf87Xxx
@xxXLonewolf87Xxx 3 года назад
@@robgyanisu312 than watch again in the end scene 2 defiand class and one akira clas did engage the 3 warbirds and promethius
@Daehawk
@Daehawk 3 года назад
@@xxXLonewolf87Xxx Yup the Akira dont give a shit it just goes in weapons firing.
@AGeneral_Nuisance
@AGeneral_Nuisance 3 года назад
"Message in a bottle", one of my favorite Voyager episode.
@t3h51d3w1nd3r
@t3h51d3w1nd3r 3 года назад
@@robgyanisu312 what? the nebula fought the Prometheus
@KH4444444444N
@KH4444444444N 2 года назад
Why is everyone suddenly forgetting the Prometheus incident? Starfleet sent two Akiras and one Defiant in hot pursuit, and when they stormed into the battlefield, they drop kicked those warbirds and even had extra ballistics fired at the Prometheus. While there is no official canon source to back my claim, it seems fairly obvious to me, based on on-screen evidence, that an Akira can effectively outclass a warbird. The Akira is a fighter carrier and torpedo gunship. It is a beautiful monstrosity.
@genocidekhaos9775
@genocidekhaos9775 3 года назад
Nice work. Love to see more.
@sid2112
@sid2112 3 года назад
I'm looking forward to more of this.
@JynxedKoma
@JynxedKoma 3 года назад
That battle at the start was BEAUTIFULLY made!
@evangelionsimba
@evangelionsimba 3 года назад
Whose the voice of the Starfleet captain? That sounds like Tex from the Black Pants Legion
@Markmanthree
@Markmanthree 3 года назад
That sounded like him
@mnarath8376
@mnarath8376 3 года назад
Well look at the credits he is indeed in there
@charlesborden8111
@charlesborden8111 3 года назад
Praise Z0rg! It's Randolph P. Checkers, esq.! The Romulans shall learn by fire.
@mam2087
@mam2087 3 года назад
The Akira class is a warship designed to fight the Borg. I have to believe it is enough to give a warbird a serious beating and being able to take a beating. It think the fight was a fair assessment of the respective capabilities.
@mam2087
@mam2087 3 года назад
@Timothy Miller The lore is that a number of ship classes were created after Wolf 359 to fight the Borg. Among them the Akira class and defiant class included. Theres some really good lore videos out there on this.
@RandomMadness42
@RandomMadness42 3 года назад
WHY does no one mention that the Akira is a THROUGH DECK CARRIER?? Look at the deck plans! Check its entry in the Star Trek Magazine from the early 2000s!
@andrewjones2453
@andrewjones2453 3 года назад
@Meanie Panini a wartime built Galaxy, with all that extra space left over, would make a decent carrier. Probably the best role would be as a disaster response ship. Shuttle bays are already part of the design and the internal cargo and hanger space would be epic. Would make a great peacetime refit.
@TookyG
@TookyG 3 года назад
Because it's just fanfic. I don't care what the guy who drew it says. It's a stupid idea to have fighters in Star Trek. They can try and shoehorn them in only by completely retconning power levels of actual starships. If you want fighters in scifi look at literally any other scifi property.
@brassman1010
@brassman1010 3 года назад
The Akira carrier bay isn't meant to carry fighters, it's designed to facilitate the simultaneous launch and recovery of numerous shuttlecraft. This can be utilized tactically in the landing of troops where transport scramblers are active, or in mass evacuations or recovery missions. It's part of the combat profile of the Akira class, there are many tactical reasons why launching and recovering large numbers of shuttles can be useful even in the age of transporters. Fighters have never really been much of a thing in the Star Trek canon.
@MrBottlecapBill
@MrBottlecapBill 3 года назад
@@TookyG Is it a stupid idea? I mean.......one fighter is not only a very small target but with an ample power supply and small size could be built amazingly tough with crazy shields for far less resources. Not to mention having weapons as powerful as a regular star ship. Remember a star ship wastes a lot of energy and materials on life support, living quarters, cargo decks, holodeck(ha!) etc. It's no dumber than modern day aircraft carriers carrying fighter jets. Yes one carrier is a lot more powerful than one jet.........but that power curve dips drastically as more jets enter the picture. IT's very effective. Facing multiple targets with your limited weapons while also facing multipe firing solutions surrounding you is not a good place to be. Fighters work.
@TookyG
@TookyG 3 года назад
@@MrBottlecapBill the only way fighters make sense is by nerfing the hell out of full size ships. You'd simply be sending the fighter pilots to their deaths otherwise because we repeatedly see size be a non-factor in targeting. And it shouldn't be a factor! Take fighters to science fantasy or scifi with a much lower tech level like B5.
@evanjohnson1299
@evanjohnson1299 3 года назад
remember when the Romulans stole the USS Prometheus they sent 2 D'Deridex's to escort it when star fleet went to destroy it they sent 2 Defiant-class and 1 Akiria. Both defiant-class ships went after the Prometheus while the Akira attacked TWO D'Dridex's considering Star Fleet generally doesn't do suicide missions they must've felt that 1 Akiria could hold it's own against 2 warbirds.
@roetemeteor
@roetemeteor Год назад
One target soon turns to 11 and it starts rapid firing volleys of Quantum and Photon in a sweep of death that causes so much interference than everyone's instruments just start to nope out. The Romulans wisely decide to not decloak until they have one HELL of a shot. It's fitting it's called the Akira because this is canonically the only ship that could turn into a literal Death Blossom of phasers, torpedoes, drones, and overall not-niceness.
@Thkaal
@Thkaal Год назад
@roetemeteor That's what I call my fire at will and full torpedo spread macro
@d.b.4671
@d.b.4671 3 года назад
Personal headcanon: the Akira was actually Starfleet's response to the D'Deridex, much like torpedo boats were originally built to take down battleships. Their construction was expedited after Wolf 359, since they could deliver a lot of raw firepower against massive targets; but the design itself pre-dates the Federation's awareness of the Borg. This doesn't mean an Akira could _easily_ take a D'deridex one-on-one, but it would fare better than a Galaxy-class in the same situation.
@royroblox
@royroblox 3 года назад
I like this reasoning a lot and the tie in to pre WWI and WWI history. Anything smaller than a Galaxy or Nebula) would’ve been toast if they actually got this close to a D’Deridex, just like a torpedo boat would’ve been crushed by a battleship’s huge guns, if they scored a hit. But with some peppering at high warp and maneuvering, I could see it being a good fight.
@Seskal
@Seskal 3 года назад
Reminds me of the story from Startrek Bridge Commander, the player captaining a single galaxy, and later a sovereign class faces 2 warbirds in a nebula, that game portrays the Akira as roughly equal to a galaxy, more firepower but not as tough shields. Had forgotten about it, still can't recall which class you're in when you face the 2 romulans
@trekwars5400
@trekwars5400 3 года назад
I love the animation truly top-notch and good!!!!!
@davidnemoseck9007
@davidnemoseck9007 3 года назад
Would love to see more of these!
@TheGreatBlueBlob
@TheGreatBlueBlob 3 года назад
Nice, very nice!
@donhodgkinson6233
@donhodgkinson6233 3 года назад
Great video 10/10 I would like see more of these cinematic cgi battles
@sundoga4961
@sundoga4961 3 года назад
I agree with this outcome. The Akira has the combat edge, but is hampered by Starfleet's doctrines, which are sound, but overly conservative and fail to encourage offensive mindedness or aggressive finishing of opponents.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 3 года назад
Eh, I dont really buy it. Seems like most sources consider the Akira class to be something like a heavy cruiser, its supposedly 400-500m long. The Warbird, while an older design, is a much larger capital ship over 1000m long. If you consider the shape of the ships, the Warbird is also much more massive, even with the clamshell design.
@sundoga4961
@sundoga4961 3 года назад
@@termitreter6545 Mmm, but the Warbird is a big, inefficient ship. Not ineffective, just designed in a non-efficient manner. Most of that extra size is empty space. Mass wise, she is bigger, but not that much bigger, and the Akira class is at least twenty years more modern. From a state that has been consistently shown to be the superior of the two in terms of technology.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 3 года назад
@@sundoga4961 Where do you get the idea its mostly empty space? Pretty sure we never learn about that, and it seems like a pretty silly idea. But the Warbird is much more massive than the Akira.. The Akira is pretty slim; the disc section is prolly below 250m, and thats the most massive bit of the ship. Otherwise it just got a small torpedo pod and two large nacelles, as well as the connectors inbetween. Tbh, I'd not even be sure the Akira would beat a wartime Galaxy class? And the Galaxy should be outclassed by the Warbird too. Same way I dont see how the Akira should be that technologically superior? Sure its more modern and much more cost-effective, but its one of the first wave of dedicated warships of the Federation, while the Romulans always had very advanced technology.
@sundoga4961
@sundoga4961 3 года назад
@@termitreter6545 I get the idea that the Federation is more advanced from events. A Galaxy class ship and a Warbird appear to be roughly of the same period, but the Romulans aren't confident of taking one down without a two-to-one advantage. The Romulan singular advantage, advanced cloaking tech, is regularly trumped by a wide variety of Federation systems - and the Federation can even make BETTER CLOAKS. As to the Warbird herself, look at her! It's hollow. Most of the space taken up is...space. Oh, and the Akira is a SECOND generation Fed warship, like the Sovereign. The first gen was the Defiant class, and they learned a lot from her.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 3 года назад
@@sundoga4961 Well yeah, the romulans arent going to take a fight in which they might take damage, if they cant help it. They arent Klingons that take risk. Idk why we still talk shape, but the upper/lower clamshell is probably about as thick as the saucer section average of the Akira. Its that much of a mass difference. Also yeh, the federation making a better cloak than the romulans was pretty stupid. Neat episode, but a bit far fetched.
@dissectingdiy
@dissectingdiy 3 года назад
Oh wow this is awesome!
@hatfield4805
@hatfield4805 3 года назад
Loved the idea of this vid.. More pls
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 3 года назад
I remember reading one book, where a Romulan commander (not of a warbird, of a smaller ship likely inspired by the Defiant) takes on two Jem’Hadar fighters in a nebula. The Romulan commander decides to make use of a tactic that worked perfectly against the Vulcans. It involves skimming at the edge of the nebula, which drains shields but does hide the ship and allow it to ambush the enemy. It utterly fails against the Dominion, as Weyoun is aware of the tactic and explains to Dukat or Damar (don’t remember which one) that it only worked the first time because such an action is illogical. The Dominion skewered the Romulan ship. Let’s ignore for a moment that a nebula isn’t nearly as thick as normally shown in sci-fi
@Quadrolithium
@Quadrolithium 2 года назад
"The only good tactic is a tactic only used once." - Heavy Object. Use it too much and the enemy gets used to your bullshit, might as well making you a free target than an actual threat.
@RobDEV
@RobDEV 3 года назад
This is great
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 3 года назад
TEX TALKS STAR TEX! LOVE YOUR VOICES MAN!!! and its the CLANS taking over. Romulans are obviously Clan Raptor's Wing
@potatoradio
@potatoradio 3 года назад
When Clan Jade Falcon stumbles through some time space warp thing...
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 3 года назад
@@potatoradio Which clan would each faction be? Diamond Shark is obviously Ferangi. What about the others?
@Borgforce
@Borgforce 3 года назад
I always liked the Romulans Warbird. Really nice design - always wondered what the massive gap in the middle was for though...
@paulprovenzano3755
@paulprovenzano3755 2 года назад
She’s powered by a singularity, remember. They probably don’t want to put anything too close to the gravimetric disturbances of that sort of thing if they can avoid it.
@louisboyd493
@louisboyd493 2 года назад
The gap is so a warp field can be created and sustained inside the clocking field, meaning the ship can move at high warp while still cloaked.
@treavy-n1d
@treavy-n1d 3 года назад
We need more space battles
@MrAwol007
@MrAwol007 3 года назад
i agree :)
@BurgerLord99
@BurgerLord99 3 года назад
This is very cool
@kyjoe9
@kyjoe9 3 года назад
Great video! Do more of these vs videos!
@ericdavis5991
@ericdavis5991 3 года назад
I agree. In a straight head to head it would be close. Tactics, and other non measurable factors would decide the outcome.
@traviswatts9082
@traviswatts9082 3 года назад
Stagnate? Federation using Excelsior and Miranda classes 100 years + after development.
@monologiorobotach557
@monologiorobotach557 3 года назад
That where old ships refitted for war. Desperate times.
@chaseimler5258
@chaseimler5258 3 года назад
You should check out Resurrected Starships's breakdown on the D'Deridex, it's very thorough!
@yoschiannik8438
@yoschiannik8438 3 года назад
Yes but his version is not really canon.
@potatoradio
@potatoradio 3 года назад
Poor Romulans about to get boarded by Doctor Randolph P Checkers, and an army of Cluwne's. Thanks for this! Akira time travel several hundred years and fly upside down boom - NX class...
@brianfeher5077
@brianfeher5077 2 года назад
I know exactly who would win between these two ships: Whoever has the most plot armor....
@lawrenceanderson748
@lawrenceanderson748 3 года назад
Like that nice one !
@treevork
@treevork 3 года назад
is that the whiskey laden baritone of Tex tickling my ears!?
@GenSphinx
@GenSphinx 3 года назад
I think it was Tex.
@JasonPrice1
@JasonPrice1 3 года назад
I think if it was no holds barred, the Akira wins as it could just pepper the D'Deridex with both classes of torpedoes and also hit with phasers. I would also assume a much greater rate of maneuverability for the Akira.
@Warsheep2k6
@Warsheep2k6 3 года назад
also recloaking isnt really an option for the d'deridex against an akira as their shields would drop and the akira would go yolo fire all weapons on their now exposed ass
@GoodOldGamer
@GoodOldGamer 3 года назад
And at least in beta canon, the Akira is also a carrier with a butt load of fighters ready to help out. 👍
@theunitedcommonwealth715
@theunitedcommonwealth715 3 года назад
Don't know about the fire power but I think The Starfleet ship is more manoeuvrable.
@dougsmith6262
@dougsmith6262 3 года назад
I recall reading in the Ships of the Line book that Starfleet took a different approach to the Akira when it came to offenses. Instead of relying on phasers as a primary weapon, it's designed more as a gun boat with having more torpedo tubes than phaser arrays.
@wolfsruhm
@wolfsruhm 3 года назад
more Tex greatness, YAY
@3DRC-707
@3DRC-707 3 года назад
Yea I'm down for this outcome.
@roetemeteor
@roetemeteor Год назад
What's interesting here is both the Romulans and Akira are holding back. A Warbird could easily hit much harder than what I could, and the Akira could easily just vomit a ton of death in it's direction (to the tune of *90 torpedos in full spread*) and chances are it's not gonna live through that. That doesn't even touch on the fact the Akira has literal _fighter ships/drones_ it can deploy whenever it feels like it. As picard lovingly once said before "This is a tap on the shoulder, Number one. If they wanted us dead, we wouldn't be talking." That captain probably thought that ship to be similar to a Miranda before realizing that is absolutely no Miranda at all. I'm also pretty sure their response to the torpedo spread from BEHIND the ship would have been a combination of hatred and intrigue, not knowing it could easily, without a spread, launch five times what it did with little effort. Amazing and enjoyable video, nonetheless!
@ourichie
@ourichie 3 года назад
Remember, Starfleet sent an Akira nd 2 Defiants to engage the Tal Shiar warbirds and in your words the Akira "engaged the warbirds with out flinching"
@messman10
@messman10 3 года назад
The D'Deridex warbird is old, and eventually was at least being replaced by the time of Nemesis. The Akira class seems to be meant to fill in the role of a medium cruiser for war, well after the Galaxy class was showing its age and flaws. In this battle, I think you're wrong: the Akira class would've overpowered the D'Deridex by a fair margin, (unless brilliant tactics were used with surprise by the Romulans). The Akira would've taken a beating though, as you showed. Against the new generation of warbirds, well, the Akira class would lose, with the warbird taking a beating.
@galaxianstudios8934
@galaxianstudios8934 3 года назад
I think purely with the role of the D’Deridex it would win. Comparing the size of a D’Deridex and its role as like a multipurpose massive ship then it might win. A modern cruiser vs a 20 year old aircraft carrier kind of situation
@messman10
@messman10 3 года назад
@@galaxianstudios8934 If the 20yo carier has only old planes, and a brand new destroyer with CWIS, anti-air, and ship to ship missiles, the tiny destroyer is likely to win.
@galaxianstudios8934
@galaxianstudios8934 3 года назад
messman10 ya but like, the F-22 is currently 23 years old and they could still put up a good fight. Tbh it could go either way we just don’t know how significant of a tech buildup there was in the last few decades of trek
@borg111
@borg111 3 года назад
Another point is that the Akira would out maneuver the Warbird taking less fire while pummeling the Warbird from all angles. I doubt a Warbird would fair well.
@davidford3115
@davidford3115 3 года назад
@@borg111 It would not fair well, but its overlapping weapon arcs would allow it to return hits to the Akira. Just because they favor forward fire doesn't mean the Romulans don't cover their aft. The shear durability due to its hull size is what allows the D'D to survive against a smaller more evasive ship.
@robertpanek5944
@robertpanek5944 3 года назад
I love the D’Deridex Warbird. I'm currently flying one in STO. All nostalgia aside; I think the D’Deridex is outdated. It's a great ship, but Akira is simply better suited for combat. The Mogai-class heavy warbird would be a better match, probably.
@VHVDRAGON
@VHVDRAGON 3 года назад
The Warbird is Dreadnought, large amount large amounts of heavy weapons, powerful shielding and Hull. Akira is a heavy cruiser. no chance for real the akira could defeat the B type Warbird.
@cantdestroyher7245
@cantdestroyher7245 3 года назад
Yeah but it’s one of starfleets first purpose built warships. If a galaxy class is a match for one then this thing most definitely would be
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 3 года назад
Ah nice to hear Tex
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 3 года назад
If the Federation would have just sent in a Steiner recon lance before hand then the Romulans would have had their pointy eared asses hand to them. I love this cross over with Tex.
@TheRyujinLP
@TheRyujinLP 3 года назад
Remember, stealth is an option.
@mnarath8376
@mnarath8376 3 года назад
Why do i hear music?
@potatoradio
@potatoradio 3 года назад
@@mnarath8376 Ja why??? (grin)
@philips.5563
@philips.5563 3 года назад
I like the version envisioned as a torpedo gunboat. I enjoy the idea of an angry admiral going full send on specifying a maneuverable gunfighter of a ship for Starfleet.
@steeltimberwolf
@steeltimberwolf 2 года назад
The truth is that the Akira, especially in this encounter, beats the D'Deridex hands down. The amount of weapons, maneuverability, armor and shielding added with how the Federation fights and seeks cloaked ships gives the Akira the win. In this scenario, the moment the Akira's torpedoes hit the D'Deridex while cloaked would mean the D'Deridex is dead. Like the Klingons, they can't utilize their shields when cloaked and firing a torpedo against a unshielded starship is a recipe for disaster. Those two torpedoes hitting the fore of the D'Deridex would have more than likely destroyed most of the head of the D'Deridex.
@zealotmaster1
@zealotmaster1 3 года назад
lucky they wasnt two enterprize
@ivandiaz8892
@ivandiaz8892 3 года назад
I love this! Let us have more of this!
@dwsvlogs97
@dwsvlogs97 2 года назад
The firing arcs on the D'Deridex limits its offensive capabilities. However, being able to fire before fully decloaking is def an advantage in a space battle. I agree with conclusion in this match up. it was close but the Akira class out matches the warbird.
@parmsingh187
@parmsingh187 3 года назад
Would love to see the uss prometheus in this type of video!
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 3 года назад
Given comparable command and crew proficiency, the Akira Class would soundly defeat a D'deridex.
@asheer9114
@asheer9114 3 года назад
IF lonely Akira would have an element of surprise then perhaps she would have a chance to beat D'Dex... but key problem is that Romulans would see her on their screen long before she would saw them so initiative odds would be slighty on Romies side... 😏
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 3 года назад
@Kato Ho Ten Soeng Ah yes, but the only plot in this instance is the confrontation between two non hero ships with no central characters aboard either. Plot armor is therefore, a non entity.
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 3 года назад
@@asheer9114 Not really. The D'Deridex was slightly more powerful than a Galaxy Class which isn't even a dedicated warship. The Akira Class on the other hand was a purpose built for heavy combat.
@zed1stwizard
@zed1stwizard 3 года назад
@Kato Ho Ten Soeng Thick that armor is.
@traviswatts9082
@traviswatts9082 3 года назад
@@UncleMikeDrop Just because a ship isn’t a dedicated warship does mean it’s less powerful. It means it’s less effective in the sense it requires a lot more resources to build a multi purpose ship and you would be better off building 2 or 3 dedicated warships for the same resources as a ship that can do everything. This Enterprise A was a multi purpose ship and seen as a top notch combat vessel in an era of Cold War with the Klingons.
@Paerigos
@Paerigos 3 года назад
was that Tex??? "Thats how they want to play it?"
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 3 года назад
He’s the akira captain
@Paerigos
@Paerigos 3 года назад
Well the voice is unmistakable I guess :D
@mnarath8376
@mnarath8376 3 года назад
Sounds just like Tex yeah
@mannyzx
@mannyzx 3 года назад
I was expecting some scouting once I heard Tex. Good work all around.
@germantrekkie
@germantrekkie 3 года назад
Good job on the edits Lr
@Ketwolski
@Ketwolski 3 года назад
Great job on this GT!
@germantrekkie
@germantrekkie 3 года назад
@@Ketwolski Thanks Ket :D
@jensreiberg8086
@jensreiberg8086 3 года назад
I do believe the Akira is vastly supperior in a straight up fight. And in the shown situation with multiple torpedo hits scored on a cloaked vessel the romulan ship should really have been destroyed outright. Romulan ships are generally not able to run cloak and shields at the same time. So these Torpedo hits would have hurt a lot. I understand, that the first 2 hits were proximity activated torpedos but the third after the cloak failed was a proper hit with no time to raise the shields. Keep in mind that a ship uncloaking did not instantly have shields raised. In Star Trek 7 one torpedo destroyed an undamaged unshielded klingon BoP. So we know theses torpedoes hit like a truck if not shielded. (Or look at the borg cube at first contact a few hits almost took out the whole cube) I know that by the time of Nemesis the Reman had a cloak that could operate simultaniously with the shilds but at that time the empire used the more advanced Valdore class. So I place this engagement closer to ds9's timeframe. At that time the Federation made huge steps forward in offensive and defensive combat technologies. (as seen in the Galaxy refit for example)
@roetemeteor
@roetemeteor Год назад
Probably a torpedo with the power dialed down on purpose. Not so much an attempt at a death blow but a parting "And remember, this could have killed you." A punch to the face rather than a gunshot.
@Quadrolithium
@Quadrolithium 2 года назад
If I were the Dex captain I would have thought. "Damn... WHY ARE WE NOT MOUNTING ESCORTS INSIDE OUR SHIPS? Look at all that real estate."
@op_snooze
@op_snooze 3 дня назад
As with any starship battle, size matters less than battlefield tactics. My thought is that the Akira needs to ensure that it doesn't lose Quantums before it can make use of them. It needs to not lose the ability to launch small craft before they're mobilized. It needs to preserve engine power and go to full impulse once the Romulans have cloaked. For the Romulans, they need to fight up close and neutralize the Akira's Quantum Torpedo launcher early, and any weapons systems which can utilize rapid fire mode. The D'deridex needs to protect its forward torpedo tube and its disruptor cannons from direct fire. Any early damage to weapon systems should draw an immediate retreat if the Akira retains Quantum Torpedo firing beyond the first few exchanges.
@Loki1701e
@Loki1701e 2 года назад
Remember that one time a akira casually went up aginst 3 warbirds in the battle for Prometheus.
@c0278x
@c0278x 3 года назад
The Akira is my favorite ST TNG ship! 👍🏻
@cipherzero1115
@cipherzero1115 3 года назад
Omg! Tex!! Hell yes!
@waltertomaszewski1083
@waltertomaszewski1083 3 года назад
How do you think this ship would stand against a Romulan Valdore-class ship?
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 2 года назад
It would lose badly. The Valdore type warbird is much more heavily armed.
@JettMann8
@JettMann8 2 года назад
I HEAR TEX Always a thumbs up for Tex
@igncom1
@igncom1 3 года назад
Is that Tex? Of the blackpants legion?
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 3 года назад
It is
@TheRyujinLP
@TheRyujinLP 3 года назад
I can only image some star fleet logistic officer looking over Capt. Tex's manifest and going, "What in the name of the great bird of the galaxy does this caption need with 870 metric tons of barrel proof whiskey?!"
@Locutus
@Locutus 3 года назад
Did you not watch the credits???
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 3 года назад
@@TheRyujinLP Or an engineering officer in Space Dock. "Wait you want an entire separate warp core dedicated to serving the Captain's quarters replicator? Just how much stuff are you replicating?"
@TheRyujinLP
@TheRyujinLP 3 года назад
@@Hybris51129 {Capt. Tex}: Yes and I'll be replicating a little something called shut the fuck up and mind your own bushiness. Well I'm off to go find and take out some dirty clanners. Star League forever! {Engineering Officer}: Clanners?... Wait... don't you mean Star Fleet? { Capt. Tex}: Fleet... league... same difference. They both have star in it. Latter weenier. {Engineering Officer}: What........ what just happened? o,o.....
@scottbraun2457
@scottbraun2457 3 года назад
I think you probably have it nailed. Using your environment to your advantage was a good touch -(the ever convenient nearby nebula). A "near miss draw", seems most likely to me too. In the end, each ship limping home ...the Fleet Captain, wisely what ever the main drive can do, put to use, just in case the other guy gets wise, he might still have a chance to win...and come back.
@curtisirons7491
@curtisirons7491 3 года назад
Cloaks are vulnerable to tachyon scans the dominion war established this. The akira should have completely trounced that d'deridex.
@TJRex01
@TJRex01 3 года назад
Curtis Irons tachyon nets tended to require multiple ships working together iirc
@Marsproject11
@Marsproject11 3 года назад
@@TJRex01 True but that was over a wide area, it can be reasonably assumed this can be done by one ship in its immediate vicinity, sure its not as effective but it still gives them an extra leg up.
@seanmcgrath3826
@seanmcgrath3826 3 года назад
I'm thinking that the Romulans adapted their cloaks to resist those; the Defiant did after all, & the Federation & Romulans were allies during the war
@seanmcgrath3826
@seanmcgrath3826 3 года назад
Also, I just remembered that the Dominion used an antiproton scan to penetrate Defiant's cloak, which was later adapted for
@jarradscarborough7915
@jarradscarborough7915 3 года назад
yeah, scans were anti-proton - not tachyon, but yeah. plus quantum singularities that power warbirds can be detected, even without a time-travelling OBrien!
@ElderNewt
@ElderNewt 3 года назад
I absolutely love the new romulan warship post dominion war. It looks and acts like a sick predator.
@nekophht
@nekophht 3 года назад
Interesting battle, and I feel a reasonably legit result. Various factors might've tilted the fight one way or another if this match-up occurred with different captains elsewhere. One thing to note - if you believe that registry numbers are roughly chronological, all of the "new" First Contact ships pre-date the Galaxy-class, and in the case of the Steamrunner, possibly the Nebula-class. Of course, then you have the question "when do they assign a registry number?" to ask, though I'm in favor of it being when the ships are ordered, and then "if a number of these were ordered way back then, why do they look like much more recent designs?" I feel like some of them were "shelved" in order to keep building Nebulas and modernized after Wolf 359, or perhaps their original design concept didn't work out (carrier Akira?) and they were rebuilt as something different post-Wolf 359 (torpedoboat Akira), or maybe they couldn't get certain things working right (Steamrunner) at the time. I'd honestly expect a brief pause in building for redesigning pylons/nacelles after the TNG S7 warp ep leading to all but Norway having "tilted" nacelles and more Connie refit-esque warp grills (and Norway breaking up the warp grill away from the solid U shape).
@willdavis3802
@willdavis3802 2 года назад
Is that Tex? That was an awesome surprise to hear that voice.
@vicegealgood
@vicegealgood 3 года назад
i see the captain was Tex from Tex talks battletech. nice touch
@biostemm
@biostemm 3 года назад
If you know you're fighting an enemy that can cloak, then you should be constantly firing all phasers in all directions, (at the lowest setting to preserver power), then immediately launch all weapons once you've made contact with something. I realize it would look silly to do this in a video such as this one, but without other ships to setup a detection net, that's really your only option...
@jonno9238
@jonno9238 3 года назад
Except an intelligent foe would simply launch a probes into the path of your weapons and camp the edge of your effective range until you exhausted your resources then decloak and pillage your mobility. Fighting a cloaked enemy in open space while lighting yourself up like a Christmas tree probably isn't a good idea. Even this fight depicted here assumed a nebula in order to keep the engagement from continuing in open space where the cloak advantage would have washed the federation despite the Akira's toughness and armaments. Stealth and the capability to first strike is an absolutely devastating advantage.
@roetemeteor
@roetemeteor Год назад
The ship doing that is a bad idea. The supposed DRONES it has, however, shooting off phasers in every direction in a sweep, however, is going to look both awe-inspiring and absolutely terrifying. Pretty sure that'd make any romulan captain wisely decide to just fuck right off and not engage. "Commander, what should we do?" "Take us out of here. It's not worth it."
@BGRANT777X
@BGRANT777X 3 года назад
I always thought the Akira looked like what would happen if you did a TMP level refit of the NX-01
@benjamin4673
@benjamin4673 3 года назад
This was great, can we get more?
@randybentley2633
@randybentley2633 2 года назад
Given the Akira Class's reputation as a torpedo cruiser, it didn't fire nearly enough of them nor did it fire enough spreads...
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 3 года назад
Interestingly, while in the real world the Akira design predates the NX design, Star Trek: Enterprise retroactively made it the other way around in-universe, so Akira was inspired by NX
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 3 года назад
“Misdirection is the key to survival, never attack what your enemy defends, never behave as your enemy expects, and never reveal your true strength, if knowledge is power then to be unknown is to be unconquerable.” Romulan mantra
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 3 года назад
Birth of the Federation?
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 3 года назад
@@Th0ughtf0rce yep
@jamesjdm
@jamesjdm 3 года назад
15 torp launchers, capable of fiting quantum torps, fighter craft, type 12 phasers Honestly, it should tear through a warbird very quickly.
@jasonwestwood7092
@jasonwestwood7092 2 года назад
Type X phasers 8 arrays and 17 pulse fire Photon & Quantum torpedo launchers 1530 strength index vs B type Advanced Romulan telshiar warbird 1500 strength index the Akira is faster and more manoeuvrable but has a weaker hull.
@llynellyn
@llynellyn 3 года назад
The reason the D'Deridex became redshirts during the dominion war is because as a massive target they're highly susceptible to ramming, and the Jem'Hadar had no issue with sacrificing half a dozen fighters to take out a battle cruiser.
@TheMingilator
@TheMingilator 4 месяца назад
for me, i'd be using phasers at minimal power and made slightly dirty (radioactive) to 'tag' the romulan ship while its cloaked, keeping all torpedos ready for a massive alpha strike once the ship can be reliably tracked via the radioactive particles leaking off the ship and through the cloak, the massive torpedo strike on an unshieled ship would be absolutely devastating
@bjornjoseph
@bjornjoseph 3 года назад
Always wondered what was in the upper and lower clam part. No windows.
@bluehydro88
@bluehydro88 3 года назад
I feel like a lot of people underestimate the Akira class. It's armed to the teeth and beautiful. I always wished they used it instead of the Intrepid class in Voyager. It would've made a huge difference. Not to mention it's way bigger than you might imagine, it's almost 400ft longer than the Intrepid and nearly the mass of a Sovereign
@DiscoRaptor
@DiscoRaptor 3 года назад
Honestly two of my favourite Trek ship designs! So, read a comment saying "You have a ship in the Akira class that was designed to go toe-to-toe with a Borg Cube. I'd say it has the stuff to take out a single D'Deridex if called upon to do so." My take... The class may have been one of those designed to fight the Borg, but never intended to do so one-on-one. Like the Defiant class, it was intended to be part of an anti-Borg fleet. Smaller profile (harder to hit), fast, maneuverable, armoured and very heavily-armed. I love the Akira class, but despite the age of the Romulan design (which like Starfleet Excelsiors, Mirandas, etc. are just upgraded or refitted over the years), don't underestimate a D'Deridex warbird! Romulan cloaking tech was almost the best in the business, and gives an awesome first-strike ability. Mix that with extremely powerful disruptors (10% hit on Galaxy class shields per shot on pulse fire in one example) and an attack without warning could leave an Akira in all sorts of trouble. Not the most agile ship, of course, but more of a tank. I don't think you can put the two toe-to-toe in a straight slugfest, they're too different in class and design. For me, Akira wins on speed, updated tech, rapid fire, etc. and the D'Deridex wins on first-strike and raw power / tankiness. But as we most often see in Trek, whoever wins really comes down to the captain and crew. 😁
@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740
@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 3 года назад
04:51 "I am Serious Business". Akira took a "beautiful scar" on the left side. T_T 06:58 D'Deridex seems to have had its rear vandalized by a pittbull. XD
@tonyf8167
@tonyf8167 Год назад
i think perhaps that i am the only person that notices this; although NEVER stated in cannon, if you look carefully at the official external decalling you can IMO clearly see TWO warpcore ejection ports... this makes sense in that redundancy is a feature that would be needed particularly in the early stages of the Borg conflict.
@user-pl4iq3sb6v
@user-pl4iq3sb6v 2 года назад
Damn i didn't know Tex did voice work for Trek videos. I watch his Battletech content all the time.
@kevy0siris
@kevy0siris Год назад
Cool to see they've let the Pakleds into Starfleet.
@MeldrickCz
@MeldrickCz 2 года назад
Inovating and stuff is good, but ultimately it is the fair numbers and better logistic that comes with the same ship maintanance that is generaly considered as winning formula.
@GoodOldGamer
@GoodOldGamer 3 года назад
Don't forget that a single Akira took on two of those warbirds in that Voyager ep that featured the Prometheus. 👍
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 3 года назад
I didn’t, but we never saw the outcome either
@GoodOldGamer
@GoodOldGamer 3 года назад
@@LoreReloaded True, but that's pretty gutsy and says something about the confidence in the ship's capabilities. Or maybe they were the only ships in the sector like usual for Starfleet, lol.
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 3 года назад
Or of desperation. To clarify here, The Akira is my absolute favorite ship - in like all of trekdom.. And I think it was gutsy and shows how Bad Ass the vessel is to go two on one. I even considered and rewatched it - its just that the battle was like 20 seconds max and we never saw any substantial hits back and forth - so me writing this differently - i think - would have been a bit unobjective fan fiction (or more so than it already is)
@moritzwalter6040
@moritzwalter6040 3 года назад
The akira class is also a carrier, it can Launch fighters to create a net of less powered phasershots to detect the warbird if it is cloaked or to increase tactical capacity. The Akira class is more maneuverable then a warbird, but the warbird has great firepower so if it comes to an hard Duel I think it is a question of the amount of quantum torpedos hit their target.
@TimothyChapman
@TimothyChapman 3 года назад
Just for fun, you should do an analysis on Star Trek: Armada's 1 and 2 story lines.
@lexthelegend1455
@lexthelegend1455 3 года назад
And Legacy
@alexfranz817
@alexfranz817 3 года назад
Just doing a breakdown like he did for STO? In a matchup video it wouldnt even be close using armada lore.
@119MB
@119MB Год назад
Holy shit. Y’all got Tex of the black pants legion to voice this shit. AWESOME!!
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