As a Malaysian myself, I immediately recognised the legendary name of Al-Attas. He is an underrated genius of our time and it’s great to see you bringing more exposure to his work and legacy.
Do you tgink muslims in u.k are by a large proportion. Blind to our lack of ethics developing especially in pharmaceuticals and the nhs as a whole? @@KAhmed
Dear Paul. You are doing an amazing work for religious understanding of the world we live in. Your contribution in highlighting Islamic perspective on different issues is far greater than Muslim scholars. May Allah reward you for this here and in the life hereafter.
@dirkhan74 No denying Brother Paul is doing an excellent job as you have mentioned. But don't underestimate the jobs the Muslim scholars are doing for the deen. Everyone has a special field. They all won't excel in all areas. As laymen, we have a problem of assuming the Muslim scholars must excel in all fields or they are not fit to be a scholar. They are just as human as you and I. We can both hold the same degree in one subject but our expertise will differ. You stronger in one or more aspect and I in another. Also, not everyone has the secular education to back up certain points. Hope you understand where I'm coming from. Peace out
@@yaffacake22 I don't disagree on the point that Muslim scholars do have an impact in society but they have yet to come up with solutions to the bigger problems (political, economic, and intellectual) that the Muslims face as an Ummah. They are divided along sectarian lines and most of them unaware of what challenges do Muslims face other than performing prayers, observing fasting, making haij etc. not to mention their proclivity for theological discussions.
I just come to realise how great syed naquib al attas really is. Not to forget dr ali, his son. As the saying goes "mana tumpahnya kuah kalau tidak ke nasi". Proud malaysian 🇲🇾
(The Sheikh's "apa" fillers mean 'what.. what is it.." something like that. So very Malaysian. ♥) I loved this talk so much - completely mind-blown when he said "The Western worldview is always in the state of becoming." Just so profound. I am currently reading "The Concept of Education in Islam" and it is brilliant. Thank you so much Brother Paul for allowing us to listen to this. May Allah reward you with His love and abundance.
السلام عليكم I rarely post comments but Paul, you’re really making a great work and a beautiful development with this channel. May الله accept your efforts, rewards you and assist you through the Hadrat of Seyyidina Muhammad. Much love from Paris, France.
There is a grave need for having such curriculums. May Allah reward him and everyone who works on developing them. The need is not only for graduate level but also for high school and middle school ages.
This is an all-too-familiar conversation in the Muslim world which is what we in the Muslim lands call an in-house discussion. Talking about the state of Muslims today is a topic that is ubiquitous in the Muslim world and often discussed.
Because this is what happens when a community realises there is something fundamentally wrong with their existence and relationship with the modern world despite having a preserved revelation with ample guidance from the Creator. Muslims inherently feel there is something wrong but are confused about the solution, even though they have been taught and suspect that Islam is the answer. Yet they are not knowledgeable enough to know or understand how this is so.
@@stephenconnolly1830honestly a great man Islamic thinker looked deeply into this problem and came out with that Muslims don't base there religion on the general ethics of the quran. The genius mohamed shahrour lol, he passed alot of scholars in the arab world off but they are slowly adopting his ideas. The man is a genius at understanding religion particularly islam. For him islam=Quran only path hadith=history.
MaShaa Allah, the most beautiful thing here is you Paul and you're the most evidence of how we should be optimistic as an Omaha, Jazak Allah and bless you,
Great video it’s honestly so sad how lost we have become as a Muslim ummah I wish for us to one day too be able to work together and strengthen our ummah even if it’s not a United country but just with good leadership, strengthening community, good charity, love and understanding we really can work together more and we at the end of the day all Muslims we need to understand and take the steps hard or not too make Islam strong again!
it took me a good 5 hrs to finish this. had to rewind so many times because the information was so valuable to listen repeatedly. something i like to add, a topic that rarely gets mentioned, which i believe compounds to the decline of spirituality in humans regardless of religion is child abuse by parents. the quran gives the parable of stability using mountains. god says the mountains acts as pegs for stability. similarly in children's lives parents acts as pegs for mental, emotional and spiritual stability. without the mountains the crust is destabilized. how many grounds have been shaken because of shaky foundations. i wont make this long, i believe it's an important topic to cover, a topic which in my opinion is one of the biggest causes of human suffering and their misguidance and i hope you'd cover in the future about child abuse and how childhood trauma destroys spirituality.
Syed Muhammad al Naquib bin Ali al-Attas is a very special man, can't believe you got his son, Dr Syed Ali Tawfik Al-Attas on! Well done and thank you Brother Paul!
Very interesting talk indeed.. Alhamdulillah.. Many born Muslims have very little knowledge these days.. Most gain them in school, in Malaysia, primary and secondary school. If parents sent their children to private or international school, Islam are not emphasised, instead worldly survival are more important for them. These are among the rich as of those among the low income, mom and dad goes out to work for wordly survival and children and left to mind their on life spiritually or no spiritual knowledge at all.. Hence the generations we are facing now.. As Malay, good ethics and respects are basically taught at home, but now they learn everything from internet...😔
One of the main points of Muslim ignorance concerns their knowledge of the Qur'an, it is mostly dated and rife with numerous mythologies rather than scholarly understanding. Fortunately, the Project Illumine Qur'an commentary is now available to redress the balance, available from the Usuli Institute's RU-vid channel.
Not really. A private uni belonging to TNB the electrical company offers Tahfeez Engineering program. The Malaysian graduates coming from UK, China*, Japan, South Korea are religious and most are active in dawah groups. Including street dawah movements. *we stopped sending kids to uni in China. Bad decision imo. They were ones who can get through Baidu and read the real situation amongst western propaganda against China. Stopping the program of sending Malaysian kids from graduating in China universities is cutting off dawah effort in China.
Also boarding school systems like MARA, SBP often conduct programs to make the students gain awareness about the affairs of the ummah; about lsraeli occupation of Palestine, about the refugee problems ie Syria, Rohingya etc. Sometimes even non-muslim students become interested and willingly attend these programs where they're not even invited. Then they become allies of the ummah or even better, part of the ummah.
@chicken soup I agree, these are some efforts made by the Government, but the rich, mostly, send their kids to private and International school..and when they study overseas without basic religion, they get lost, maybe not all, but look at our Dr. O&G in UK..
36:09 Reminded me of a quote from Aristotle in his work Nicomachean Ethics Volume 3 “equals should be treated equally and unequals unequally”. This understanding of justice and equality between the genders is something that the West has not appreciated how different men and women have been created. Equity is how this ought to be achieved.
بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين..... .............
from 21.00 onwards is very truthful from Dr Syed Ali Tawfik al-Attas i see this in the Muslim community and social media especially on YT why is this DR not recognized
Thank you for the insightful words. A small reply to Dr Syed's point about the judeo-christian west being in a state of continual becoming: Christians believe truth was established in the new and eternal covenant of Jesus Christ.
We appreciate your respectful reply. I would ask you a question, does the eternal covenant of Jesus Christ address how a polity might run it's political and social systems?
@@nanashi7779 Thank you for your response. I am largely ignorant of Islam, but it is interesting to learn from the discussions and comments. I get the impression that perhaps Christianity and Islam may not be entirely opposed, as they might not be exactly the same sort of thing. But in answer to your question, I think there are two quite different ideas of truth. I don't think in the christian doctrine and scriptures, that we have a code of ethics laid down in quite the same way, as, if my impression is correct, it is in the Quran. Rather I think we have witnesses to the truth: in the old testament the prophesies and in the gospels and the epistles the teaching and history of Jesus, as it has come down to us. So I think in christianity that truth is a matter of signification, rather than revelation, although the word is believed to have been written with the guidance of the the Holy Spirit. Coming down in this way, It is all understood to lead back to Jesus, and to signify that he himself - a singular individual - was the truth in flesh and blood, as it says in the Gospel of John. Peace be with you.
It's in the liturgy: "Take this, all of you, and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory of me." I suppose the words must me out out of one of the gospels, not sure which at the moment.
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There is no better philosopher than the philosopher *Malik bin Nabi* , who gave a great analysis on the causes of the of Islamic civilization crisis and gave also the appropriate solutions to treat it.
"He argued that in order to recover its former magnificence, Islamic society had to become an environment in which individuals felt empowered. In order to satisfy his spiritual and material needs, a Muslim needed to feel that his industry and creativity would find reward." This is going to be a hard sell, if you hear todays scholars.
@@grnzrn Yes, because he sees that our contemporary Muslim scholars in particular lack of a panoramic vision of events and neglect to attribute them to the phenomena of causes, and this is due to the long years of Western colonialism on the Islamic nation, which made Islamic thoughts as a whole restricted for many centuries. This is one of the most important problems of Islamic civilization that Ben Nabi sees.
@@saifmaher3429 I understand. Its just my impression that "empowerment of the individual" does not seem to be very high up on the list of contemporary muslim scholars. Maybe becauseits considered more of a western or secular idea.
@@grnzrn - particularly when Muslim understanding of the Qur'an has been corrupted and is now dated - all except the brand new Project Illumine Qur'an commentary by Prof. Abou el-Fadl available from the Usuli Institute's RU-vid channel.
I saw a short with syed al attas. I immediately clicked it and search for the original video. Such a great name especially for Malaysian like myself. Such an honor.
There was a debate on this issue among the Arabs between Dr. Muhammad Al-Fayed and Dr. Sami Amiri, and everyone supported the words of Dr. Sami Amiri I advise you to host him. He is a professor of comparative religions and has many books on contemporary issues.
Assalamualaikum WBT Bro. Paul. JazakAllah Khayr for your tireless effort and energy in compiling and dispensing ilm. Brother, we would like to invite you to Malaysia. InsyahAllah, we can do much good in building back the ummah's intellect and gheerah for ilm as well as the deen.
the much-awaited discussion topic, thank you paul for inviting prof syed ali alattas. many of the topics discussed are very relevant to the current situation. may ALlah reward your good deeds with the best reward. in shaa ALlah..
This was GREAT, it was like karate kicking but with words, awesome guest I've been illuminated on this Friday ma sha Allah.im gonna dissect this podcast and maybe write a book. Thank Allah and you akhi paul
Ignorance lead us to the new God....... Govt & money. You are the Mujahideen of the time. Thank you Sir and Thank Allah that we are giving time watching these kind of content
Another fascinating discussion. Thank you. As I understand the proposition in this episode, the crisis referred to in the title involves a lack of a settled Muslim ethical code interpretation that can be promoted in countering Western (Judeo/Christian) codes. In other words, there is no consensus among Muslims unified enough to intellectually challenge the encroaching Western philosophy that has been adopted and is being adopted more and more widely. There are disagreements within Islam as to the "proper" way to address moral questions. If I, a Non-Muslim, may offer an observation while looking in from outside. Western philosophy contains within it a method for arriving at consensus. The dispute resolution process of democracy is an organ internal to Western philosophy. Should men and women be treated as equals? Western democracy addresses this question. Once the consensus is formed, it is adopted and then presented as the Western position. Should evolution or Creationism be accepted and taught in schools? In the West, this question is run through the mill of democracy - dispute resolved - and consensus applied. How should suspected criminals be tried? Punished if found guilty? Disagreement abounds. So, the question is run through the dispute resolution mill of democracy. Through it, the citizenry determines the ethical answer. Does Islam need a dispute resolution process in order to form presentable consensuses? It seems there are many disagreements among Muslims awaiting resolution.
To Dr. Syed Ali, This is exactly my point. Just because your particular view is that "WE" don't evolve from Homo Sapiens does not necessarily mean that you have just stated the Truth. The Quran does not SAY THAT. In fact it does seem to imply the exact opposite. Let me give you an Ayat from the Quran; إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍۢ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ ٥٩ Quran 3:59 Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! Now have YOU really pondered on this VERSE? I don't think you have. Let me point out a few facts that Allah reveals here. First let's focus on the last part. Allah AwJ says that He has created Jesus From DUST! Interesting because we Know that Jesus had a MOTHER. Why does Allah skip over this aspect and go directly to DUST when we know that there has been a series of steps in the Creation of Jesus? This is because Allah is actually saying that there are steps between The Creation of Adam and Jesus being born to Mary. It doesn't say anything about Homo Sapiens Not being Included in these steps. Then Allah says that Jesus similitude is like Adam. Now this can be understood as vice versa as well. If Jesus resembles Adam THEN Adam MUST Resemble Jesus. Since Jesus was BORN of a Woman then Adam also MUST Have been BORN of a Woman. And this can be presumed that Adam was born from Homo Sapiens. So when Allah AwJ says to the Angels that He will Create a Khalifah it does NOT mean that this Khalifah will not have a Lineage. It just means that Allah will create something different than what was there before. Otherwise how would the Angels have ASSUMED to be able to say; "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood" Where did they come up with this idea that this creation would do something LIKE That? Unless they Knew of a similar Creation that they were already familiar with. Anyway Allah KNOWS Best. But you need to be more careful when you are claiming to speak the TRUTH! Salam.
Big up to the BT channel. Would be interesting if the team could also speak to scholars from the Arab world as well like sheikh Muhammad Didu for example
Thank you sir paul for bringing men of knowledge to our knowledge...I would recommend you to try to bring sheikh imran nazar hosein to the podcast and listen to his point of view as well regarding end time islamic eschatology
Dr Syed Ali definitely does not mince his words. Some of the things, the way he said it was brute but a well needed wakeup call. I can see Paul noticing this as well throughout this interview 😂
As you invite some of the most brillant and creative minds in the Muslim world, I strongly advise you if you want, to invite Omar Zaid, an American doctor convert who was also a, theosophist and a Freemason. His views on Hadiths and traditional ulama are worth to listen to.
@@unknownpng650 because as a Morrocan and as a student of the great Malek Bennabi, I consider that the Almohads were the last truly developed and Muslim dynasty in North Africa.
8 ads by RU-vid in the first 12 mins - trying to interrupt too much and make it obvious RU-vid are trying their hardest to distract us with their stop and start with constant ads, just in case we learn. Great video though
@@grnzrn "umm no its the works of community devs and why didn't you thank them by giving 5 star review or donations" how would you respond to that?, lol.
@@grnzrn "there is no afterlife that dev will likely go to hell in your belief!" though his worldly 5 star and donations will likely be more useless without an afterlife.
The headline tells the absolute truth and the subject has paramount importance not only in the religion but in our everyday lives. Failing to understand the right priorities is clear derailment. When in our so called modern secular system telling us that “they” are our sheikhs or alem because of their so called rubbish degrees and when they are failing to speak the truth with wisdom and right priority then verily we are in the dark age despite the abundance of knowledge and technology. Today’s so called sheikhs and by their literal definition ‘ who doesn’t have degrees and fame they are not scholars.’ Imagine If Allah sends a Prophet today then they will say that He does have degrees and they will mock the way they mocked before all the Prophets. Similar things are happening today around us with the people of knowledge, wisdom and insight. We don’t know what to do and how to fix it. Anyway, Thanks Blogging Theology for inviting such a great speaker and getting change to know more from the persons of truth.
The line of reasoning crashes with the revelation on a very fundamental level, the sense making for an alim is very hard to interpret and translate and/or integrate into islamic thought. The lingusts are talking about picture theory of language, in that context we might say that Quran the picture and reason is a way of using language. So we the speakers of various languages and the reasoning inherit to them are bond to sense makking of the of the picture that is Quran.
One of the best things about being Muslim is that although we have lots and lots of problems, we're constantly reminding ourselves that we need to fix things up. I believe that a new Islamic Golden Age is coming, and it's center will be from the West (the sun rising from the west).
@@karlmuud we need to correct our paradigm. we can't continue to see ourselves as victims nor as superiors. we're contributors and representatives (khalifa) of God on earth. As representatives, we have more responsibility, not more superiority.
It will definitely not be in the West, the West is stagnating a lot and it is entering it's innevitable crisis which has inflicted all civilizations. East Asian countries especially Chinese dominance is on the rise and Russia's recent military operations have greatly questioned Western dominance around the world, with even Arab gulf and other Muslim countries getting closer to China and Russia. Also your last statement, "the sun rising from the west", I hope you are not refering to that hadith, because that's an end times prophecy which tells us that after that happens, there will be no more tawbah, I've seen other people spread this idea too with that hadith and I wonder where this is coming from.
This is exactly where the problem lies. We just need to become more spiritual/ethical and the problems with sort themselves out. That is exactly what the enemy wants. Let us do the politics for you and you go be spiritual.
İslam remains only in tongues but after Islamic revolution happened in 1979 by imam Khomeini so it started Islamic mission practically first time in modern times. İmam Khomeini first slogan was no west no east but Islam. Thanks to Almighty Allah that bestowed upon Muslims this revolution. And today we see how Islamic republic demonstrating powerful resistance against Zionism and arrogant imperialism
This man seems to a decendent of the family of Attas in Yemen .It:s a f family well known for its deep scholastic knowledge of Islam. scolstic knowledge
Our esteemed scholar says a huge part of Islam deals with ethics but again it's after the application of the political system of Islam or applying the Islamic system comprehensively and that's when the Islamic ethics would be realised! A good example today we see how the society is stinking due to the secular liberal values and nothing else!
