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It’s not crazy at all. this gen of consoles has been steady ~$500 msrp; The 3070 released at around the same time for about $700 msrp. Keep in mind thats $700 for just a card that still needs a whole pc to put it in.
No it isn't. I have a 3060ti and I regret it immensely because I've already run into 3 games that would run absolutely fine if not for the garbage 8gb.
@@JessePatrick-zc8ng This is the way. 60fps has been the standard for a long time. And will continue to be for years to come. But to elaborate on frames. if you want more frames it helps to have cpu speeds more than 3.7ghz. and having high ram also helps immensely. honestly any gpu can be great with tweaked settings. turning off shadows, removing ambient oclusion...etc.
I still remember when you bought that 3070 back in the day and I bought the 2070. Man, that feels like a lifetime ago. Still a great card even to this day!
Man I thought that price was a little high myself haha... then I did a little looking around on my own, and 3070s are still going for near 300 used. It's unfortunate nVidia handicapped it with 8gb, it's still a beast of a card.
I bought my 3070 a couple of months after it released and it has done me really well... until yesterday. Alan Wake 2 is the first game I've played to make the card show some age.
@@Yuniliel Nah, I ain't having that. The graphics in Alan Wake 2 are nothing but incredible. Lighting, reflections, textures and character models are WAY beyond anything in the RE 2-3-4 remakes.
I love the polish of your videos - very professional! It certainly shows in what must be many late-night and early-morning hours that you have to be putting into them - and it's greatly appreciated! Also, it's refreshing to see such a big name content creator take to heart helpful suggestions from sincere viewers/subscribers as you did at 6:40 :) Very well done!
If I were to retest performance of an old card (not that I think the 3070 is old at all yet) in 2023 I would go for second half of 2022 and 2023 games only for it to make sense to me as older games can be found in many videos and the main point is to have an idea of how it performs in the "latest titles". For example: Hogwards Legacy, COD Modern Warfare II, The Last of Us Part 1, Starfield, A Plague Tale Innocence, Alan Wake 2, Dead Island 2, Rachet & Clank, UNCHARTED Legacy of Thieves Collection. For Cyberpunk Update 2.0 mainly Dogtown from the new DLC and maybe The next gen version of The Witcher 3.
RX 6800 kills 3070 and in the used market, it is dirt cheap with double the VRAM. 6800 is somewhere between 3070 ti and 3080 and even matches 3080 in some scenarios. A used 3080 ti is the only NVIDIA 3000 card I'd go for right now.
@ImTriumph RT is completely pointless in this segment as 3070 is shit at it, too. 3070 is constantly slower in newer titles due to VRAM. Name a recent title with meaningful RT that 3070 can run at playable framerates. That's also a very wrong thing to say. 6800 CAN do RT. It's the same as something like a 3060 ti or so in RT and can output almost playable results in some games. It's just not that good. The way 3070 is not really good, as well. Particularly when it runs out of VRAM.
I can't believe 3070s are still selling for that much. Really interesting to see a new card from that seemingly no name brand. Makes me wonder if it's a refurbished mining card with a new cooler.
That's pretty pessimistic lol. Odds are against it though, people doing that are mostly doing it with AMD cards. What 51RISC seems to do is repurpose unused notebook chips and things like that. This seems to be a legit 104 die in this case, though you can't really be sure without cracking the shell, scammers are getting pretty good at putting tampered vbioses on those used mining cards and other ewaste cards.
Hey, Trusteft here, I moved my subscription to this new account of mine to make it easier for me to follow people I am subscribed to. The RTX 3070 definitely is worth having in 2023, though I don't know how well it performs in Starfield and Alan Wake II. I have to say, that's a beautiful card too. Good points about the AMD side. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for making and uploading x I game at 4K with the 3070, I can manage modern games 4K at 60fps with a few tweaks and DLSS no problem. 60fps+ is achievable in Cyberpunk with DLSS no problems. NVIDIA sharpening filter and DLSS is your friend when it comes to 4K gaming with a RTX 3070. If DLSS is not available, then use NIS instead; works great! Gonna try notorious VRAM hog Hogwarts next, and Elden 'No DLSS' Ring. The toughest to run so far has been Last of Us > need to go performance mode DLSS with the tweaks for the smoothest experience. Like other people will say: the difference between Ultra and High (or even medium) is sometimes Placebo at best, but the FPS gains are definitely not. If like me you play older games more than new then it smashes those. Just played Arkham City at 120fps 4K and wow what an experience, will play City next ;-) Also played Fallout 4, GTA 5, and Hitman 2016 = lovely performance and visuals.
@@hasiv167 That will be a major mistake, the 3070ti is a very very fast gpu with impressive performance that trades hits with RX6800 and RX6750xt, but there are two problems with this , both of these gpus have significantly higher VRAM (16 gb and 12 gb respectively), compared to the 3070ti which only has 8 gb of vram, and that's gonna cause you significant problems in 1440p due to the fact that Many games that came out in the past 2 years suffer immensely from the limited 8 gb of vram that the 3070ti has, the second reason is that they are both cheaper than the 3070ti both used and new, so yeah, that is why I think the 3070ti sucks, if only it was 12gb, it would have been one of my favorites
I’m on a 60hz panel so I lock the fps at 60fps and don’t max out my system. You should mention panel refresh rate and how that impacts what you might even need.
Generally, people who are looking above nVidia xx50 class or AMD x500 class are quite aware of the relation of Hz to FPS. Locking at 60fps really doesn't matter unless you're trying to play say... Doom uncapped with a 4080 or something on a 60Hz panel. Then I could see not wanting the excess frames heating up the environment. As it is, a 3080 barely gets 70 fps at 4k on RDR2. Ask me how I know! Anyone still rocking a 60Hz panel should be rocking at least a 4k resolution, and if you aren't, well, I'd say you should be looking at monitor reviews as well as GPU reviews, and how that might impact what you need. 😉
@@NamTran-xc2ip Yeah, the resolution frequently isn't the issue, it's the settings. For the sake of these type of discussions, you can safely assume everyone is looking for ultra.
Hi, I just discovered your channel and I love it. By the way, is your RTX 4090 still okay? I'm concerned about the burnt cable issue. I've seen that the solution is to make sure it's properly connected.
8 is really all that’s being used by most games. I have a prebuilt msi that my computer geek buddy tweeked with a 3070 trio and it plays anything we’ve thrown at it on ultra. Yes it’s getting close to maxing at 7.3 but it still kicking hard. Things can’t just be ran “out the box” and expect to hold up against these new games. That being said things will need dialed down the next few years.
Loving mine.. I'm not playing 4K anytime soon and been awesome on both 1080p/165hz & 1440p/165hz displays I own. 3070RTX 8GB crushes most games in 1080p, started to see a little performance loss in 1440p but not much.. I'm also running a Ryzen 5 5600x w/ 32GB DDR4-3000. I got the 3070RTX over a year ago and I am still figuring out what games I should go with No upscaling vs DLSS,Quality. Dying Light 2 is one of those games. I've tried with RayTracing and it looks nice but not worth the performance loss, same for Doom Eternal. Tried both games in 1080p & 1440p.. and the same as mentioned above come 1080p vs 1440p. Sick card though and hopefully gives me a few years or more.. I've got a 2060 Super 8GB and love playing the same games on that system to see the difference.
MSI RTX 3070 8Gb Gaming Z trio 2022 edition , its serve me perfect on 1440p in 2023. Most games i got 60fps+ and FPS games with some settings tweaking i can get 144fps with no problem 👌
I bought the MSI Geforce RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio in May 2021. The price back then was 1499 Euro's...There was a real shortage of GPU's during that period hence the prices were insane.
I've just upgraded to RTX 3070 FE card. after 6 years and have officially retired my old Faithfull...my GTX 1080 Evga ..and the RTX 3070 was a good choice for me ..
There is resize bar, if you enable this the right way your 3070 wil get allot more fps in several games. use profile inspector to enable it after setting bios and so.
could you please do a video where you show us whether playing 1080p native or 1440p dlss quality delivers the sharper and crisper image for roughly the same framerate?
My 3070ti is still going strong, i can hit over 60fps at 4k in pretty much every game i play still. And I've only ever gotten a vram warning one time. If the 3070/ti had the 12gb of vram that the 4070 does, it would be in a much better position as a 4k 60 fps card. I see no reason to upgrade to the 40 series at this point
3070 still awesome in 2023? Yes, for 1080p. For 1440p, I'd say it's firmly in the 'okay' tier. There are some games that really tax it, especially with raytracing. Sadly, it's mostly a vram issue, and mainly in regards to raytracing. The 3070 and 3080 were both short on Vram, but at least the 3080 had GDDR6X. The 3060ti being marketed as a 1080p card mainly with its 8gb, it really made no sense to market the 3070 as a 1440p card with basically the same specs (about 10% more cores, and 5-10% more fps). If you were looking for a replacement card for 1080p gaming, a used 3070 for $350 or less is probably the best card to get right now. It beats the 4060ti for less money.
undervolting on gpus is a must and you can also set the core and mem clock to standart. i have my msi 3070 suprim at 900volt and 1920mhz core and its awesome i have no bluescreens or instabilitys. i recommend msi mainboards 550 they are awesome!
I got myself a 3070 for 260 dollars. I was running a 1650 super before. In my country hardware is overpriced af, you cant find any 4000 series below 1500USD. So i think i made a pretty good deal.
@@ErockOnTech The dev studio did really bad with the release of that game, it was pushed back every couple of hours because it wasn't ready for release. It's probably bad optimization issues.
I finally got my hands on a cool PC came with this RTX 3070, I know it’s a 3 yr old gpu but it’s still a monster for its performance. Hell it performs better than my PS5 which is crazy
@@theboy2777 sadly my monitor is 1440P 😂 I heard down scaling your resolution is kinda meh for most games but I love my RTX 3070 I won’t upgrade from a couple years from now or until I’m forced too
In europe this card has never been under 500€, or it was very cheap/rare offers and now there is almost no 3070 left, and it's still over 500€, as a belgian user I believe this card is the biggest wasted potential from Nvidia
I still have the rtx 3070 gaming oc, I was reading comments and I love your videos I'm not that person that I wanna play AAA games with ultra settings I'm still thinking to pickup a 1440p 240hz for my 3070, is not like I play all games on ultra settings I play more with mixed settings, so is the 3070 good for a 1440p monitor in 2023?
Currently waiting to see these new gpus of 2025, especially AMD. Am using a used 3070 in my system and it has been very good and i run a custom resolution of 3840x1440. AC: Valhalla i get an average of 85-90 fps on ultra settings. Even Avatar: FOP on ultra everything and I still get 60 on average with lows in the low 40s, but that game looks insane. Also have a Ryzen 9 7900x3d, and 32gb ddr5 ram @ 6000 MHz. Overall the 3070 is still limitting my gaming, but only on Ultra settings. This card would still rock any game on high, and probably Ultra if on 1080p, or if your monitor is only 60hz then you could most likely rock ultra on most games. If found for a good price, i would deffinitely reccomend.
I'm gonna upgrade this Wed, should I get a 4060 ti with a i7 6700k ,24gb ram, ? 1440p LG monitor with 2 1080p for surround ??? or maby rtx 4060 is the limit idek im sad about it .
Because they need as many fools as possible to continue upgrading and deepening their pockets, that's literally the only reason that I can think of 🤦🤦🤦
“Der only 8gb of ram” Bro its fuckin good. Before I consider upgrading again i think ill try the 12Gb mod for these cards I saw or pay a little to have it done
I use a Asus TUF vg258qm TN 280hz panel, Its great for 3070 screen is prob even overkill but elbm ( eliminate motion blur ) really works wel in shooters. Im really Happy with this screen. After playing on the Benq i wanted to stay TN panel for wathever reason. My broter has alienware 240hz ips panel those are also really nice.
Upgraded to AMD RX7800xt Nitro + deff worth it still on the same screen. i wil get a secondary 4k 144hz panel or a 2560x1080 120hz panel this resolution isnt in all games so you do have to add it manually plenty of times.
Got the 3070 at launch close to MSRP at my region , i play at 1080p 144hz and still after 3 years its running solid. Not worth purchase now but worth to keep hold if already own till next generation 50 series cards.
Im about to retire my 1070 TI for one of those..they are going for 500 USD here in my country. I am running every current game on medium to high settings with my 1070 TI though. I guess I just got used with low FPS. Hahaha.
My daughter has the Palit GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming Pro and it’s still a great card. Plays 1440p no worries. Won’t be upgrading her for another 2-3 years.
It will be a perfect time to upgrade for her around late 2024 to mid-2025, you've got a good head on your shoulders! I was going to get a 4090 at a hundred above MSRP earlier this year and now I was finally ready and it's over $2200 everywhere and out of stock. So depressing.
One thing about the RTX 3070 i dont like that most seem to not notice is that it uses some type of really bad compression, on a true 10bit monitor you will notice the colors it produces are much worse compared to previous generation Nvidia cards. It was so noticeable i installed my RTX 2080 again and sold the 3070.
@@ErockOnTech Usually 10bit HDR monitors are 8bit+2bit FRC the FRC introduces dithering with reduces sharpness and clarity of the image so a person would need to have a true 10bit SDR non FRC monitor to really see how big of a difference it is. Users on 8bit panels that use 6+2bit FRC would be completely unable to see the difference.
Its still good, but that vram is gonna hold it back in the next couple years. It's already showing on some of its limitations on VRAM intensive games out right now.
The AMD 6750XT 12GB is just better. It's not quite 2 years old, matches or beats the 4060ti, and cost less. I got one for $250 used, $300 off MSRP. A 6700XT with the 6750XT factory OC clock is the same performance cheaper but also a year older.
why do people make these videos ? i got a gtx 1080 and it works fine and gets 100+ fps in all games. acting like everyone upgrades every part every time something comes out
Shame. The 8gb Vram is really holding back the 3070 from being a good 1440p card in 2023. I mean just look at the results from 2023 games like RE4R, The Last of Us, and Hogwarts Legacy. While the average fps is fine, the frametime results are awful. I know you could just lower the resolution, but I would argue that most people that bought the card was probably wanting to play at higher than 1080p resolution anyway considering the price the GPU was (is) at. Meanwhile the much weaker 1080p card like the 3060 has more Vram than the 3060 Ti/3070/3070 Ti and the only reason why is because Nvidia was afraid of the backlash. They don't care about our gaming experience. They just care about us buying their cards.
I just traded my 12gb 3060 and £50 cash for a 3070 gaming trio x and have never been happier to downgrade vram as the 3070 is twice the card. The 3060 was getting me 40fps in hogsmead on medium settings at 1080p 😂
I currently have a 2060 and was thinking about an upgrade to my pc so was looking up benchmark vids for 3070s and then saw your vid lol perfect timing ngl
Lack of vram at those prices convinced me to purchase AMD - I finally got a lot more for my money ;) - and that's for my design work system (not just gaming).
My Canadian loonies are quite useless this year. But at a $700 or so price point many 4060-70 series card would be a better option. With that, I have been looking at the Intel side of things. It's just the Drivers and support for older games that I wonder about.
The last time I checked the 6800, it was close to the 6800 XT in price which is $500. However, I saw this comment and checked again. It’s $399 on NewEgg with a $20 off coupon on some models. You’re correct.
